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Japan - request for information
Hi all,
I'm going to be in Japan at the end of the month, and I was wondering if any of you could recommend some tea-related activities or destinations in either Tokyo or Kyoto. In particular it would be great to have recommendations for specialty stores in Tokyo, as I'm spending a lot more time there than in Kyoto and I'd like to bring some tea back as gifts. Also, it would be good to hear opinions on whether or not it is worth one's time to seek out a demonstration of the tea ceremony (leaving aside the fact that I can't sit seiza for more than about 18 seconds). thanks in advance Alex (on second bowl of cold matcha) |
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On Jun 4, 4:16 pm, Alex > wrote:
> I'm going to be in Japan at the end of the month, and I was wondering > if any of you could recommend some tea-related activities or > destinations in either Tokyo or Kyoto. In particular it would be > great to have recommendations for specialty stores in Tokyo, as I'm > spending a lot more time there than in Kyoto and I'd like to bring > some tea back as gifts. Also, it would be good to hear opinions on > whether or not it is worth one's time to seek out a demonstration of > the tea ceremony (leaving aside the fact that I can't sit seiza for > more than about 18 seconds). Tea destinations: The city of Uji, outside Kyoto. I haven't been there in years, but I suspect it still has its charming strand of tea merchants. Several of them, in the past, at least, also had clerks who would try to use their English in helping foreign guests. The city of Uji is the site of the very famous Byoodo-in temple (called the Phoenix Hall), featured on the back of 10-yen coins, and it's all so compact you can walk around. Again, it's been years, but Uji used to have a city-operated cha- shitsu (place for tea ceremony). For a small fee, you would be served a bowl of matcha in a traditionally appropriate setting. The hosts will not be shocked if a foreign guest needs to sit cross-legged on the floor: Very few Japanese can sit comfortably that way either! Do not let that very minor detail stop you. There is a center for foriegn tourists in Kyoto. They speak English, and would be totally on top of what's current in Uji, what the hours are, what the fees are, and they are probably also able to hand you maps for it all. Tokyo is, culturally, less tea-centric. I lived in Tokyo for 2 years, but never found any tea shop that was anything unusual (and the ones that *are* there are going to be less prepared to help foreign guests than the ones in Uji). In Tokyo, the Nezu Institute of Fine Art always has a (rotating) display of utensils for tea ceremony displayed in a staged room for tea ceremony, so that you can see them in their "natural" setting. I believe the gardens in the back of the museum are usually open for you to walk through, and there are-- as I recall, five-- tea houses in that garden, and is a place where elite tea ceremony practitioners regularly host tea gatherings. You wouldn't be able to go *inside* these tea houses, but it might still be of interest. The Hatakeyama Collection is another museum in Tokyo that usually has important pieces of tea art on display, though it is a little trickier to find... and, if you've never even seen a tea ceremony performed, this might well be jumping to something too specialized. As for viewing a tea ceremony... my own research is in tea ceremony, and it is an art form that is not especially accessible to people who haven't, themselves, studied the art... If you haven't taken lessons, you often sit there wondering what is going on. In Kyoto there is an enterprise that gives you a mini-"concert" of various Japanese performing arts. It is called "Gion Corner." This performance includes a staged tea ceremony. You still in your chairs watching from outside, but it is narrated so that you have some idea of what is going on. (From my own research, I would suggest that, for tea ceremony elites, it is a *game* they are playing... it involves being able to recognize the historical and geographic style of the many pieces of art involved in making the tea, being able, perhaps, to also recognize the artist of the tea bowl, the calligraphy, the iron kettle... and then to figure out the "message" being sent by the host by her use of those utensils.) (If you are not able to schedule a chance to see a tea ceremony in Japan, there is an excellent video available in the US... pricey, but many universities will have it in their libraries... I could help you with those details if you are interested.) In summary, the very first thing that comes to mind is the line of tea shops in Uji. Have fun! james-henry holland = |
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On Jun 5, 7:15 pm, Thitherflit > wrote:
> In summary, the very first thing that comes to mind is the line of tea > shops in Uji. > > Have fun! > > james-henry holland > > = I will 100% second the opinion of going to Uji. As nice as some of the temples in Kyoto are, I'd say that Byodo-In rivals any of them, if not more. The Phoenix Hall, being in a nice little lake of its own and actually accessible (not like the somewhat gaudy and overvisited Kinkaku-ji) is charming and nice, and the museum attached to the Byodo- In has some stunning artwork. The walk from the train station to Byodo-In takes you past the line of old teashops, which are extremely interesting in itself. It's a great place to go and really not that hard to get to. I really want to go back to the Kyoto area, and Uji is the first place I want to visit again. Last time I've been there was about 4 years ago, and I suspect not much has changed. The tea-ceremony place was there when I went for a very modest sum. Uji is a great place to visit if you love tea and want to see nice architecture and be away from the big crowds. Bring your camera. MarshalN http://www.xanga.com/MarshalN |
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Alex ha scritto: >Hi all, > >I'm going to be in Japan at the end of the month, and I was wondering >if any of you could recommend some tea-related activities or >destinations in either Tokyo or Kyoto. In particular it would be >great to have recommendations for specialty stores in Tokyo, as I'm >spending a lot more time there than in Kyoto and I'd like to bring >some tea back as gifts. Also, it would be good to hear opinions on >whether or not it is worth one's time to seek out a demonstration of >the tea ceremony (leaving aside the fact that I can't sit seiza for >more than about 18 seconds). > >thanks in advance > >Alex >(on second bowl of cold matcha) > I was in Japan in March on tea business and visited the tea museum outside of Shizuoka. If you take a train from Tokyo to Kyoto, you can stop off here for a couple of hours. You can also wonder into some of the tea fields and they have a shop selling a good selection of Japanese tea products inclusing soaps, face packs etc etc! -- Questo articolo e` stato inviato dal sito web http://www.nonsolonews.net |
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MarshalN schrieb:
>> In summary, the very first thing that comes to mind is the line of tea >> shops in Uji. > Last time I've been there was about 4 years ago, and I suspect not > much has changed. The tea-ceremony place was there when I went for a > very modest sum. Uji is a great place to visit if you love tea and > want to see nice architecture and be away from the big crowds. Bring > your camera. I second every single word said here. Uji is the place to go for some excellent tea. I was there twice - once in august and once in january. While the time in august was very nice (and humid, and lots of mosquitos and rain/typhoons), it was in in january when I loved it most. Uji is a quite place in summer too, but there is the occasional busload full of travelling nihonjin. In winter, everything is so quiet. I had a great time with one of the shopkeepers, talking about the old days of Uji and his ancestor's teashop - in which we were sitting in. And he poured some great tea while he did his talking. Ah, the memory. Anyway, Uji is a great place, but the actual plantations are in the surrounding mountains. It is possible to get there by bus and local trains. There aren't to many sights, but strolling along the plantations is worthwhile, even out of harvesting season. Ask at the tourist office right outside Uji station, they know about the directions. ciao Patrick |
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On Jun 4, 4:16 pm, Alex > wrote:
> Hi all, > > I'm going to be in Japan at the end of the month, and I was wondering > if any of you could recommend some tea-related activities or > destinations in either Tokyo or Kyoto. In particular it would be > great to have recommendations for specialty stores in Tokyo, as I'm > spending a lot more time there than in Kyoto and I'd like to bring > some tea back as gifts. Also, it would be good to hear opinions on > whether or not it is worth one's time to seek out a demonstration of > the tea ceremony (leaving aside the fact that I can't sit seiza for > more than about 18 seconds). > > thanks in advance > > Alex > (on second bowl of cold matcha) Uji FTW! I had a friend who lived near Uji and the photos were amazing. So were the teas I used to get from him. on a different note, if you are a "geek" at all or into electronics Shinjuku is pretty cool. I worked in the gaming media for a few years and Shinjuku was always a kind of Mecca. Enjoy the trip, it will be two years before I can go to Uji but it is already planned. - Dominic |
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On Jun 6, 2:00 pm, "Dominic T." > wrote:
> On Jun 4, 4:16 pm, Alex > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > I'm going to be in Japan at the end of the month, and I was wondering > > if any of you could recommend some tea-related activities or > > destinations in either Tokyo or Kyoto. In particular it would be > > great to have recommendations for specialty stores in Tokyo, as I'm > > spending a lot more time there than in Kyoto and I'd like to bring > > some tea back as gifts. Also, it would be good to hear opinions on > > whether or not it is worth one's time to seek out a demonstration of > > the tea ceremony (leaving aside the fact that I can't sit seiza for > > more than about 18 seconds). > > > thanks in advance > > > Alex > > (on second bowl of cold matcha) > > Uji FTW! I had a friend who lived near Uji and the photos were > amazing. So were the teas I used to get from him. > > on a different note, if you are a "geek" at all or into electronics > Shinjuku is pretty cool. I worked in the gaming media for a few years > and Shinjuku was always a kind of Mecca. > > Enjoy the trip, it will be two years before I can go to Uji but it is > already planned. > > - Dominic- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Thanks everyone for all the great suggestions. I will definitely try to drop by Uji. Dominic - I'm not that much of a geek but my cousin lives near Shinjuku so that's where I'm staying in Tokyo. It's a pretty amazing place. Thiterflit - I don't suppose you could recommend a book or article about the tea ceremony? I read a bit of anthropology so perceived dryness or academic tone is ok. Also, thanks for the recommendation on Nezu, I will definitely check that out. |
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On Jun 7, 2:43 pm, Alex > wrote:
> On Jun 6, 2:00 pm, "Dominic T." > wrote: > > > > > On Jun 4, 4:16 pm, Alex > wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm going to be in Japan at the end of the month, and I was wondering > > > if any of you could recommend some tea-related activities or > > > destinations in either Tokyo or Kyoto. In particular it would be > > > great to have recommendations for specialty stores in Tokyo, as I'm > > > spending a lot more time there than in Kyoto and I'd like to bring > > > some tea back as gifts. Also, it would be good to hear opinions on > > > whether or not it is worth one's time to seek out a demonstration of > > > the tea ceremony (leaving aside the fact that I can't sit seiza for > > > more than about 18 seconds). > > > > thanks in advance > > > > Alex > > > (on second bowl of cold matcha) > > > Uji FTW! I had a friend who lived near Uji and the photos were > > amazing. So were the teas I used to get from him. > > > on a different note, if you are a "geek" at all or into electronics > > Shinjuku is pretty cool. I worked in the gaming media for a few years > > and Shinjuku was always a kind of Mecca. > > > Enjoy the trip, it will be two years before I can go to Uji but it is > > already planned. > > > - Dominic- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Thanks everyone for all the great suggestions. I will definitely try > to drop by Uji. > > Dominic - I'm not that much of a geek but my cousin lives near > Shinjuku so that's where I'm staying in Tokyo. It's a pretty amazing > place. > > Thiterflit - I don't suppose you could recommend a book or article > about the tea ceremony? I read a bit of anthropology so perceived > dryness or academic tone is ok. Also, thanks for the recommendation > on Nezu, I will definitely check that out. As always I recommend "The Book of Tea" by Okakura. It is available for free online or for only about $4.00 at a bookseller. Also, you lucky dog, I'd kill to have family by the Mecca of geekness The shots of Uji I saw were awe-inspiring and I can't see how anyone could go wrong with a trip there. - Dominic |
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Dominic T. wrote:
> Also, you lucky dog, I'd kill to have family by the Mecca of > geekness Is there such a thing as cha-otaku? |
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On Jun 8, 1:06 pm, DogMa > wrote:
> Dominic T. wrote: > > Also, you lucky dog, I'd kill to have family by the Mecca of > > geekness > > Is there such a thing as cha-otaku? If there is, I think a lot of us qualify. I know that many of my friends find my obsession creepy. |
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On Jun 8, 1:06 pm, DogMa > wrote:
> Dominic T. wrote: > > Also, you lucky dog, I'd kill to have family by the Mecca of > > geekness > > Is there such a thing as cha-otaku? haha, yep. I think you just coined a new term. I think we're a long way from being nationally recognized and signing our charter, but maybe 4 or 5?? - Dominic |
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