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Tipping at AYCE buffets?
The Chinese buffets have tip jars at the sushi and the noodle
counters. Many tip a buck for a bowl of soup noodles or a plate of custom ordered sushi. If I go back for seconds, is it expected of me to fork over another buck? I only tip the wait staff $2 for the whole meal. |
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James wrote on Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:37:26 -0700 (PDT):
> The Chinese buffets have tip jars at the sushi and the noodle > counters. Many tip a buck for a bowl of soup noodles or a > plate of custom ordered sushi. If I go back for seconds, is > it expected of me to fork over another buck? I only tip the > wait staff $2 for the whole meal. The only AYCE Chinese buffet that I go to once in a while wants you to pay before being seated. If the waiter has brought your drink promptly, refilled it on request and removed used utensils, I think a tip of about 10% is appropriate (rounded up to the next dollar.) -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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On 2009-09-15 11:04:36 -0700, "James Silverton"
> said: > James wrote on Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:37:26 -0700 (PDT): > >> The Chinese buffets have tip jars at the sushi and the noodle >> counters. Many tip a buck for a bowl of soup noodles or a >> plate of custom ordered sushi. If I go back for seconds, is >> it expected of me to fork over another buck? I only tip the >> wait staff $2 for the whole meal. > > The only AYCE Chinese buffet that I go to once in a while wants you to > pay before being seated. If the waiter has brought your drink promptly, > refilled it on request and removed used utensils, I think a tip of > about 10% is appropriate (rounded up to the next dollar.) In all these kinds of situations, including set-price valet parking, I give two bucks. I don't care whether I spent 50 bucks at a buffet or 20 dollars on parking, they get two bucks. -- Dogmatism kills jazz. Iconoclasm kills rock. Rock dulls scissors. |
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"Gerry" > wrote in message news:2009091512220016807-somewhere@sunnycalif... > In all these kinds of situations, including set-price valet parking, I > give two bucks. I don't care whether I spent 50 bucks at a buffet or 20 > dollars on parking, they get two bucks. > -- > Dogmatism kills jazz. Iconoclasm kills rock. Rock dulls scissors. > My practice is to tip a dollar per person regardless of price. If I'm alone, they get a buck, etc.. -- KLC Lewis WISCONSIN Where It's So Cool Outside, Nobody Stays Indoors Napping www.KLCLewisStudios.com |
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KLC Lewis wrote:
> "Gerry" > wrote in message > news:2009091512220016807-somewhere@sunnycalif... > >>In all these kinds of situations, including set-price valet parking, I >>give two bucks. I don't care whether I spent 50 bucks at a buffet or 20 >>dollars on parking, they get two bucks. >>-- >>Dogmatism kills jazz. Iconoclasm kills rock. Rock dulls scissors. >> > > > > My practice is to tip a dollar per person regardless of price. If I'm alone, > they get a buck, etc.. I do 10% of bill before tax. -- Dan |
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On 2009-09-15 15:56:36 -0700, "KLC Lewis" > said:
>> In all these kinds of situations, including set-price valet parking, I >> give two bucks. I don't care whether I spent 50 bucks at a buffet or 20 >> dollars on parking, they get two bucks. > > My practice is to tip a dollar per person regardless of price. If I'm alone, > they get a buck, etc.. That was my approach until about 1999. Maybe it should be wired to the cost of a gallon of gas when it's that kind of thing: Buffet service, pre-paid valet, wash-room attendants, bellboys when you only have one bag, etc. -- Dogmatism kills jazz. Iconoclasm kills rock. Rock dulls scissors. |
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I asked the waitress at Todai how much I'm supposed to tip. She said
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robert ratskywatsky > wrote:
> I asked the waitress at Todai how much I'm supposed to tip. She said > 10%. One of my daughters worked in different capacities at several Todias for several years. She said couples tipped the best, big tables worst, singles in between. -- Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ Thank a Veteran! Support Our Troops: http://anymarine.com/ You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ USMC 1365061 |
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On 2009-09-16 22:05:14 -0700, Nick Cramer > said:
> robert ratskywatsky > wrote: >> I asked the waitress at Todai how much I'm supposed to tip. She said >> 10%. > > One of my daughters worked in different capacities at several Todias for > several years. She said couples tipped the best, big tables worst, singles > in between. Isn't that the general rule for all restaurants? -- Dogmatism kills jazz. Iconoclasm kills rock. Rock dulls scissors. |
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sometime in the recent past Gerry posted this:
> On 2009-09-16 22:05:14 -0700, Nick Cramer > said: > >> robert ratskywatsky > wrote: >>> I asked the waitress at Todai how much I'm supposed to tip. She said >>> 10%. >> >> One of my daughters worked in different capacities at several Todias for >> several years. She said couples tipped the best, big tables worst, >> singles >> in between. > > Isn't that the general rule for all restaurants? My general rule for all restaurants is 20% period. Less if service sucks, but wait persons do not make minimum wage. -- Wilson 44.69, -67.3 |
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Wilson wrote:
> sometime in the recent past Gerry posted this: > >> On 2009-09-16 22:05:14 -0700, Nick Cramer > >> said: >> >>> robert ratskywatsky > wrote: >>> >>>> I asked the waitress at Todai how much I'm supposed to tip. She said >>>> 10%. >>> >>> >>> One of my daughters worked in different capacities at several Todias for >>> several years. She said couples tipped the best, big tables worst, >>> singles >>> in between. >> >> >> Isn't that the general rule for all restaurants? > > My general rule for all restaurants is 20% period. Less if service > sucks, but wait persons do not make minimum wage. I still do 15% for average service, 20% for good service, and 10% for buffet or Dim Sum. -- Dan |
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Wilson > wrote:
> [ . . . ] > My general rule for all restaurants is 20% period. Less if service sucks, > but wait persons do not make minimum wage. Some places work for tips. Some places subtract tips from wages, too. -- Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ Thank a Veteran! Support Our Troops: http://anymarine.com/ You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ USMC 1365061 |
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In article <2009091518435416807-somewhere@sunnycalif>,
Gerry > wrote: >On 2009-09-15 15:56:36 -0700, "KLC Lewis" > said: > >>> In all these kinds of situations, including set-price valet parking, I >>> give two bucks. I don't care whether I spent 50 bucks at a buffet or 20 >>> dollars on parking, they get two bucks. >> >> My practice is to tip a dollar per person regardless of price. If I'm alone, >> they get a buck, etc.. > >That was my approach until about 1999. Maybe it should be wired to the >cost of a gallon of gas when it's that kind of thing: Buffet service, >pre-paid valet, wash-room attendants, bellboys when you only have one >bag, etc. I estimate the amount of work they do (drinks, clearing dishes, etc.) compared to full service, and tip a slightly larger fraction than that of my normal tip (for a given quality of service). Seth |
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In article <2009091722391416807-somewhere@sunnycalif>,
Gerry > wrote: >On 2009-09-17 19:04:59 -0700, (Seth) said: > >>> That was my approach until about 1999. Maybe it should be wired to the >>> cost of a gallon of gas when it's that kind of thing: Buffet service, >>> pre-paid valet, wash-room attendants, bellboys when you only have one >>> bag, etc. >> >> I estimate the amount of work they do (drinks, clearing dishes, etc.) >> compared to full service, and tip a slightly larger fraction than that >> of my normal tip (for a given quality of service). > >Tht sounds like you're saying that with fill-service vs. AYCE, the >latter gets tipped higher? No; with a buffet (AYCE is not necessarily a buffet) I might estimate that the server does 40% of the work that a full-service server would do, so I might tip about 50% of what I would tip a full-service server if all else (especially the quality of service) were the same. With a non-buffet AYCE, I might very well tip higher: I might order a lot more times than at a typical full-service meal. >In a full-service restaurant where I we have cocktails or wine, order >appetizers and entres and all the rest, my interaction with wait-help >is a conspicuous part of the event. >Anyway some ne bringing me a drink and bussing tables, that's not in >the same league. They get two bucks, same as the pizza guy. In most buffets, if you want cocktails or wine, they're ordered and served exactly as in full-service restaurants. Bussing tables between customers is a lot different from clearing buffet plates; for one thing, the time constraints differ. Seth |
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Last time I asked the waitress at the Todai buffet in WA and she told
me 10% is the right tip. Yesterday I asked the man at the front desk in the Todai in CA and he told me 10-15% is the right tip. So that means they're happy with 10%. |
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On 2009-09-25 04:24:04 -0700, robert ratskywatsky
> said: > Last time I asked the waitress at the Todai buffet in WA and she told > me 10% is the right tip. Yesterday I asked the man at the front desk > in the Todai in CA and he told me 10-15% is the right tip. So that > means they're happy with 10%. 2 is a hell of a sample base. Keep going with that poll! -- Dogmatism kills jazz. Iconoclasm kills rock. Rock dulls scissors. |
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Tipping. I was listening to an old 1940's radio show and they
mentioned that the standard tip then was 10%. I hate the whole concept of tipping. It's like the optional dispensing of charity by a benevolent, or not benevolent as the case may be, master to the servants. The only time I ever worked for tips was when i drove a taxicab on the night shift in NYC while attending college. I hated the whole tipping business. I was working hard. Why did I have to depend upon charity? Tipping is not practiced in many countries, like Japan for instance. |
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On 2009-10-10 22:38:51 -0700, robert ratskywatsky
> said: > Tipping. I was listening to an old 1940's radio show and they > mentioned that the standard tip then was 10%. I hate the whole > concept of tipping. It's like the optional dispensing of charity by a > benevolent, or not benevolent as the case may be, master to the > servants. The only time I ever worked for tips was when i drove a > taxicab on the night shift in NYC while attending college. I hated > the whole tipping business. I was working hard. Why did I have to > depend upon charity? Tipping is not practiced in many countries, like > Japan for instance. What are some of the many other countries? -- Dogmatism kills jazz. Iconoclasm kills rock. Rock dulls scissors. |
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I was listening to an old 1940's radio show and they mentioned that
the standard tip then was 10%. I hate the whole concept of tipping. It's like the optional dispensing of charity by a benevolent, or not benevolent as the case may be, master to the servants. The only time I ever worked for tips was when i drove a taxicab on the night shift in NYC while attending college. I hated the whole tipping business. I was working hard. Why did i have to depend upon charity? Tipping is not practiced in many countries, like Japan for instance. |
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robert ratskywatsky wrote:
> I was listening to an old 1940's radio show and they mentioned that > the standard tip then was 10%. I hate the whole concept of tipping. > It's like the optional dispensing of charity by a benevolent, or not > benevolent as the case may be, master to the servants. The only time > I ever worked for tips was when i drove a taxicab on the night shift > in NYC while attending college. I hated the whole tipping business. > I was working hard. Why did i have to depend upon charity? Tipping is > not practiced in many countries, like Japan for instance. I don't understand why people always view this as master and servant. Someone has to bring the food to us and take away the dirty plates, else we're eating at a cafeteria. And when I go out to eat, I want good food not crap. My general rule is 15% for average service, less for bad service and more for better service. I do 10% at buffet and Dim Sum. -- Dan |
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Dan wrote on Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:12:05 -0400:
>> I was listening to an old 1940's radio show and they >> mentioned that the standard tip then was 10%. I hate the >> whole concept of tipping. It's like the optional dispensing >> of charity by a benevolent, or not benevolent as the case may >> be, master to the servants. The only time I ever worked for tips was >> when i drove a taxicab on the night shift in NYC >> while attending college. I hated the whole tipping business. >> I was working hard. Why did i have to depend upon charity? Tipping is >> not practiced in many countries, like Japan for >> instance. > I don't understand why people always view this as master and > servant. Someone has to bring the food to us and take away the > dirty plates, else we're eating at a cafeteria. And when I go > out to eat, I want good food not crap. My general rule is 15% > for average service, less for bad service and more for better service. > I do 10% at buffet and Dim Sum. That's more or less my practice, Dan. However, times have changed; my mother in England never tipped more than 10% to the end of her days and she tended to reduce the percentage on large checks, I never really understood why. -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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sometime in the recent past Dan Logcher posted this:
> robert ratskywatsky wrote: > >> I was listening to an old 1940's radio show and they mentioned that >> the standard tip then was 10%. I hate the whole concept of tipping. >> It's like the optional dispensing of charity by a benevolent, or not >> benevolent as the case may be, master to the servants. The only time >> I ever worked for tips was when i drove a taxicab on the night shift >> in NYC while attending college. I hated the whole tipping business. >> I was working hard. Why did i have to depend upon charity? Tipping is >> not practiced in many countries, like Japan for instance. > > I don't understand why people always view this as master and servant. > Someone has to bring the food to us and take away the dirty plates, else > we're eating at a cafeteria. And when I go out to eat, I want good food > not crap. My general rule is 15% for average service, less for bad service > and more for better service. I do 10% at buffet and Dim Sum. > And more, restaurants in the US do not pay minimum wage as a rule. Here in Maine, we just changed the minimum wage to $7.50/hr. and it says that it doesn't have a student or training wage. But, > Tipped employees must be paid at least one-half minimum wage. If this rate plus tips for the week does not average the minimum wage, the employer must pay the difference. So waitpersons are paid a minimum of $3.75 and either get the balance from patrons or the owner to get the full $7.50. We are rather progressive with minimum wage here in Maine, but I can't say much for the rest of the Union. To Insure Prompt Service - myth or not, but I don't want anybody messing with my food because I'm unappreciative of their efforts, and I show my appreciation, as I've said before, with 20% rounded up. Like the song says, '(they) work hard for their money.' -- Wilson 44.69, -67.3 |
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Wilson wrote on Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:30:34 -0400:
> sometime in the recent past Dan Logcher posted this: >> robert ratskywatsky wrote: >> >>> I was listening to an old 1940's radio show and they >>> mentioned that the standard tip then was 10%. I hate the >>> whole concept of tipping. It's like the optional dispensing of >>> charity by a benevolent, or not benevolent as the case >>> may be, master to the servants. The only time I ever worked >>> for tips was when i drove a taxicab on the night shift in >>> NYC while attending college. I hated the whole tipping >>> business. I was working hard. Why did i have to depend upon charity? >>> Tipping is not practiced in many countries, like >>> Japan for instance. >> >> I don't understand why people always view this as master and servant. >> Someone has to bring the food to us and take away >> the dirty plates, else we're eating at a cafeteria. And when >> I go out to eat, I want good food not crap. My general rule is 15% >> for average service, less for bad service and more for >> better service. I do 10% at buffet and Dim Sum. >> > And more, restaurants in the US do not pay minimum wage as a > rule. Here in Maine, we just changed the minimum wage to > $7.50/hr. and it says that it doesn't have a student or > training wage. But, >> Tipped employees must be paid at least one-half minimum wage. >> If this rate plus tips for the week does not average the >> minimum wage, the employer must pay the difference. Interesting! I know there are special minimum wages for waiters in most US states but I believe this is not the case in Europe where the regular (and high) minimum wage must be paid. -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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> > To Insure Prompt Service - myth or not, but I don't want anybody messing > with my food because I'm unappreciative of their efforts, and I show my > appreciation, as I've said before, with 20% rounded up. > So now it's up to 20% from 10% in the 1940's. And then the next guy might say he'll tip 25% to make sure they don't spit in HIS food...Tip jars by the noodles, on the sushi bar. How crass and mercenary. When I take over I will outlaw tipping. Maybe I'll let them add a service charge instead. |
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On Oct 11, 10:52*am, robert ratskywatsky >
wrote: *Tipping is not practiced in many countries, like Japan for instance. Not exactly true. I was stationed with the USMC in both Japan & Okinawa in 1980-81. The Japanese were more than willing to expect tips from Americans or other foreign tourists if it was customary from where they came from. I can remember going into the Sanno hotel in Tokyo for dinner one night and seeing a sign by the door saying that a 15% tip was expected. In the bigger cities and towns, tipping was common only in the larger hotels. Out in the countryside, the story was different. In Okinawa, the locals had a sweet setup. The American presence was big, and local economies depended heavily on having the servicepeople patronizing their businesses. Besides tipping, many places would not let Americans pay in yen, only in dollars because of the exchange rate. At the time, we were getting something like 1300Y per dollar, and many folks would try to work that hoping to save some money. The Okinawans however, had a different idea. They would make the Americans pay in dollars or adjust their yen prices... taking away the savings, and putting it into their pockets. About the only place that this didn't happen was at the market. You paid the going price just like anyone else. I worked in the chow hall as a facility manager, and I brought some insanely fresh stuff to cook up in there. |
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"robert ratskywatsky" > wrote in message ... > And now it's come to this > > http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...052.html?yhp=1 Absolutely outrageous. A gratuity is exactly that -- a gift, not a requirement. -- KLC Lewis WISCONSIN Where It's So Cool Outside, Nobody Stays Indoors Napping www.KLCLewisStudios.com |
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KLC Lewis wrote:
> "robert ratskywatsky" > wrote in message > ... > >>And now it's come to this >> >>http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...052.html?yhp=1 > > > Absolutely outrageous. A gratuity is exactly that -- a gift, not a > requirement. I wonder if they were told before dining that the gratuity was included. That's more of a surcharge and may have stopped me from dining there.. -- Dan |
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Dan Logcher > wrote:
> KLC Lewis wrote: > > "robert ratskywatsky" > wrote in message > >>And now it's come to this > >> > >>http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...ison--70426052 > >>.html?yhp=1 > > Absolutely outrageous. A gratuity is exactly that -- a gift, not a > > requirement. > > I wonder if they were told before dining that the gratuity was included. > That's more of a surcharge and may have stopped me from dining there.. A lot of restaurants add the tip to the bill for groups over some size. From what I've seen, it's so stated in the menu or elsewhere. My daughter waitressed at Todai, where gratuities were not included in the bill. She said large groups were the worst tippers, so maybe that has something to do with it. -- Nick, KI6VAV. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families: https://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/ Thank a Veteran! Support Our Troops: http://anymarine.com/ You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ USMC 1365061 |
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