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If somebody has been eating the best japanese food outside Japan, in
southern california, is there a good reason to hunt down a specific
Japanese restaurant in NYC?

Really? Where?
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sometime in the recent past Gerry posted this:
> If somebody has been eating the best japanese food outside Japan, in
> southern california, is there a good reason to hunt down a specific
> Japanese restaurant in NYC?
>
> Really? Where?

You make the claim that the 'best' exists in so-cal and why would one search
any further, even in NYC, and all that I can think is that perhaps you are
mistaken about where the best is. I can't imagine that NYC is without merit,
albeit I've never had Japanese cuisine there, it has everything else. But I
could be wrong. One thing with New York, you can't go wrong with a hot dog &
kraut at any umbrella cart you come to, as they are 'the best' in the world.

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On 2009-07-20 05:52:44 -0700, Wilson > said:

> sometime in the recent past Gerry posted this:
>> If somebody has been eating the best japanese food outside Japan, in
>> southern california, is there a good reason to hunt down a specific
>> Japanese restaurant in NYC?
>>
>> Really? Where?

>
> You make the claim that the 'best' exists in so-cal and why would one
> search any further, even in NYC, and all that I can think is that
> perhaps you are mistaken about where the best is.


Great, where should I go?
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Gerry wrote:
> If somebody has been eating the best japanese food outside Japan, in
> southern california, is there a good reason to hunt down a specific
> Japanese restaurant in NYC?


My wife and I really enjoyed Hatsuhana in NYC. Haven't been there since
July of 2001, so no idea who its weathered for the last 8 years. But if I
were going back soon, I'd check them out.

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On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:28:26 -0400, Dan Logcher
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> Gerry wrote:
> > If somebody has been eating the best japanese food outside Japan, in
> > southern california, is there a good reason to hunt down a specific
> > Japanese restaurant in NYC?

>
> My wife and I really enjoyed Hatsuhana in NYC. Haven't been there since
> July of 2001, so no idea who its weathered for the last 8 years. But if I
> were going back soon, I'd check them out.



I haven't been to Hatsuhana for an even longer time than you, but I
also used to think they had the best sushi in NYC (and at least as far
as I knew, the rest of the country as well).

But it is (or at least was) very expensive).

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On 2009-07-20 08:41:10 -0700, Ken Blake
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> I haven't been to Hatsuhana for an even longer time than you, but I
> also used to think they had the best sushi in NYC (and at least as far
> as I knew, the rest of the country as well).
>
> But it is (or at least was) very expensive).


I too ate there around 1999-2000. It was good. The last 10 years have
provided a mind-boggling amount of change in the culinary world, and
certainly in Japanese restaurants. Good sushi can be very very good
sushi, but it's still pretty much sushi. Perhaps it might include fish
we rarely see.

I was wondering if there's anything cutting edge, novel, unusual and
the like right now in NYC.

From some digging I've found two kaiseki places that sound interesting.
One is Kai, Madison at 69th. The other is Kyo Ya, 94 E 7th. I guess
that's what I think of as a place that might hold some "wow" factor for
someone who has good sushi and izakya every week. I also saw a good
review of "En" in the West Village, where it is called a "Japanese
Brasserie". I figure that means izakaya/kappo.

Anyone been to these?
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Gerry wrote:
> If somebody has been eating the best japanese food outside Japan, in
> southern california, is there a good reason to hunt down a specific
> Japanese restaurant in NYC?
>
> Really? Where?


One of my favourite places is Sushi Yasuda on 43rd. Fairly traditional,
and superior quality. Interesting seasonal items that you don't find in
regular sushi-ya too. I absolutely love it.
http://www.sushiyasuda.com/

Jewel Bako on 5th street is pretty darn good as well.

Both have real wasabi

I could shoot out a few more if you want, too.....

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On 2009-07-20 19:27:25 -0700, Warren > said:

> One of my favourite places is Sushi Yasuda on 43rd. Fairly traditional,
> and superior quality. Interesting seasonal items that you don't find in
> regular sushi-ya too. I absolutely love it.
> http://www.sushiyasuda.com/
>
> Jewel Bako on 5th street is pretty darn good as well.
>
> Both have real wasabi


Thanks, Warren.

> I could shoot out a few more if you want, too.....


Relative to Japanese, French, Italian and everything else--I'm taking
all recommendations. Then culling all 200 down to the 8-10 meals we
might have. Any more that come to you, I'll take!
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I agree with Warren that Sushi Yasuda is great. The best experience
that I have had there was sitting in front of the master himself
during toro season and having him prepare a toro tasting of a dozen
different species and cuts. If you get to sit near him (a reservation
would be a good idea) ask him to present whatever he wishes (he's
happy to hear about your favorites) and then ask him about his rice.
He is almost Zen about it.

I love to visit Masa, especially during the winter. Sitting at the
sushi bar is a spiritual experience for those that love Japanese
cuisine.

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On 2009-07-29 21:54:01 -0700, rufus > said:

> I agree with Warren that Sushi Yasuda is great. The best experience
> that I have had there was sitting in front of the master himself
> during toro season and having him prepare a toro tasting of a dozen
> different species and cuts. If you get to sit near him (a reservation
> would be a good idea) ask him to present whatever he wishes (he's
> happy to hear about your favorites) and then ask him about his rice.
> He is almost Zen about it.
>
> I love to visit Masa, especially during the winter. Sitting at the
> sushi bar is a spiritual experience for those that love Japanese
> cuisine.


Thanks, Rufus. I'm already beginning to feel like seven nights in NYC
hardly constitutes an amuse-bouche.
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