Coelecanth does not make good sushi, in case you were wondering.

"Coelacanths are mucilaginous; their scales release mucus and their
bodies continually exude oil. This oil is a laxative, and makes the
fish virtually inedible unless dried and salted."

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Coelacanth.JPG

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> Coelecanth does not make good sushi, in case you were wondering.
>
> "Coelacanths are mucilaginous; their scales release mucus and their
> bodies continually exude oil. This oil is a laxative, and makes the
> fish virtually inedible unless dried and salted."
>
>
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Coelacanth.JPG
>

LOL. Thanks. I'll remember this the next time I see one
at the fish store.

>
> LOL. Thanks. I'll remember this the next time I see one
> at the fish store.






;-)

Sushi qualities of other Devonian fish: This is an area that needs to
be researched further. No reliable information is presently available.

http://www.uta.edu/paleomap/homepage...nkleosteus.jpg

Lamprey. OK, here's another very primitive fish - and people do eat
this one - but I've only heard of it being eaten cooked. Lamprey
sushi?

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> Lamprey. OK, here's another very primitive fish - and people do eat
> this one - but I've only heard of it being eaten cooked. Lamprey
> sushi?

Lampreys have several spots located right behind
the eyes. Hence they are called Yatsu-me-unagi
(eight eyed eel) in Japan. Historically in some remote
boondock places in Japan they are eaten (grilled) and believed to have some
medicinal value.
If you're into these kind of fish the Hagfish, a by-product
of fish traps designed for better fish are also eaten, again grilled, in
some fishing villages.
Either way the average person in Japan will never run across either of these
fish.
M

Lamprey pie, a celebrated dish amongst English royalty.

http://whatscookingamerica.net/Histo...LampreyPie.htm

It looks like an eel but it's a far more primitive creature, belonging
to the near-extinct family of jawless fish. Eel makes very nice
sushi, but I think it's always served cooked. Is that correct,
Musashi?

> wrote in message
ups.com...
> Lamprey pie, a celebrated dish amongst English royalty.
>
> http://whatscookingamerica.net/Histo...LampreyPie.htm
>
> It looks like an eel but it's a far more primitive creature, belonging
> to the near-extinct family of jawless fish. Eel makes very nice
> sushi, but I think it's always served cooked. Is that correct,
> Musashi?
>

Yes, Unagi is always cooked.
The sea eels, Anago and Hamo are also always cooked.
Thanks for the link. I had no idea that Lampreys were eaten in Europe.

I'd like to try lamprey pie!

OK, any other primitive fish to go on about? What about cartilaginous
fish like sharks and rays? Can they be eaten raw?

> wrote in message
ups.com...
> I'd like to try lamprey pie!
>
> OK, any other primitive fish to go on about? What about cartilaginous
> fish like sharks and rays? Can they be eaten raw?
>

None are eaten raw anywhere to my knowledge.
Most species of sharks have ammonia in the skin which
affects the meat unless properly prepared from time of capture. There are
exceptions such as the Mako, Great White and Thresher Sharks which do not
have this problem and can be enjoyed as "steaks" just like swordfish.
In Japan sharks are way down the list as valued fish and
are generally considered "nerimono" (to be ground up)
for kamaboko, chikuwa and other fish-cakes.
Rays and skates are aren't commonly used but no doubt
they are possibly in dried form, as seen in Korea also, in
some remote areas of Japan.
So, I won't say that shark sashimi doesn't exist somewhere but I've
certainly never run across it.
Thinking about this topic, if there is any primitive fish that
"might" be good for sushi/sashimi I am think perhaps the
sturgeon as I've had it cooked and smoked and I thought it was quite
delicious. Where I'd ever find fresh raw sturgeon to test, I have no idea.
M

Raw sturgeon - I found this:

"Meals [on a Russian river boat in Siberia] consisted of boiled meat
and starch, except breakfast, which was always raw sturgeon, black
caviar, and vodka."

http://www.gso.uri.edu/maritimes/Tex...oran_side.html


Shark sushi - I found this: "shark sushi rolls". ..?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaX58bD-3uQ




BUT...


* Sturgeon cho-same Never eaten raw (fresh water flukes!). The name
means 'butterfly-shark'

--- Ah yes, a fresh water fish! What are those krazy Russians
doing!? Maybe they prepare it somehow, marinate it in lemon juice or
something...


and



* Shark SAme Almost never eaten raw or in sushi bars


http://ease.com/~randyj/rjsushi.htm

On 2007-09-27 05:39:04 -0700, "Musashi" > said:

>
> > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>> I'd like to try lamprey pie!
>>
>> OK, any other primitive fish to go on about? What about cartilaginous
>> fish like sharks and rays? Can they be eaten raw?
>>
>
> None are eaten raw anywhere to my knowledge.
> Most species of sharks have ammonia in the skin which
> affects the meat unless properly prepared from time of capture. There are
> exceptions such as the Mako, Great White and Thresher Sharks which do not
> have this problem and can be enjoyed as "steaks" just like swordfish.
> In Japan sharks are way down the list as valued fish and
> are generally considered "nerimono" (to be ground up)
> for kamaboko, chikuwa and other fish-cakes.
> Rays and skates are aren't commonly used but no doubt
> they are possibly in dried form, as seen in Korea also, in
> some remote areas of Japan.

When I accidentally encounter those Korean skate & noodle dishes in the
Korean joints, that's dried? It's bone-in or cartilage-in stuff. Man
that is some hard work. You could starve to death eating skate,
expending more calories than you gain.

Is skate used for anything else other than this torment, like fish
cakes and stuff?
--
///---

Hey, that last one's a great website - "Randy Johnson's Sushi Lovers'
Guide"!

http://ease.com/~randyj/japan.htm#sushi

"Gerry" > wrote in message
news:2007092708431943658-somewhere@sunnycalif...
> On 2007-09-27 05:39:04 -0700, "Musashi" > said:
>
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ups.com...
>>> I'd like to try lamprey pie!
>>>
>>> OK, any other primitive fish to go on about? What about cartilaginous
>>> fish like sharks and rays? Can they be eaten raw?
>>>
>>
>> None are eaten raw anywhere to my knowledge.
>> Most species of sharks have ammonia in the skin which
>> affects the meat unless properly prepared from time of capture. There are
>> exceptions such as the Mako, Great White and Thresher Sharks which do not
>> have this problem and can be enjoyed as "steaks" just like swordfish.
>> In Japan sharks are way down the list as valued fish and
>> are generally considered "nerimono" (to be ground up)
>> for kamaboko, chikuwa and other fish-cakes.
>> Rays and skates are aren't commonly used but no doubt
>> they are possibly in dried form, as seen in Korea also, in
>> some remote areas of Japan.
>
> When I accidentally encounter those Korean skate & noodle dishes in the
> Korean joints, that's dried? It's bone-in or cartilage-in stuff. Man
> that is some hard work. You could starve to death eating skate, expending
> more calories than you gain.
>
> Is skate used for anything else other than this torment, like fish cakes
> and stuff?
> --
> ///---

I believe that skate is used along with shark for all sorts
of nerimono. At least that's what I've been told, traditionally.
But when I stop to think of all the Sukesoudara
(Alaskan Pollack) going to make fishcakes after removing
just the roe for Tarako/Mentaiko, I find it hard to imagine
that there's much demand for Skate and Shark. It would seem like there's
plenty of lower-grade white meat fish around.
For Shark and Skate I personally turn to western dishes.
Nothing beats the soft scallop-like poached skate wings of a Raie Au Buerre
Blanc. And I've enjoyed many fresh
Mako shark steaks that would put swordfish to shame.
Musashi

> wrote in message
ups.com...
> Raw sturgeon - I found this:
>
> "Meals [on a Russian river boat in Siberia] consisted of boiled meat
> and starch, except breakfast, which was always raw sturgeon, black
> caviar, and vodka."
>
> http://www.gso.uri.edu/maritimes/Tex...oran_side.html
>
>
> Shark sushi - I found this: "shark sushi rolls". ..?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaX58bD-3uQ
>
>
>
>
> BUT...
>
>
> * Sturgeon cho-same Never eaten raw (fresh water flukes!). The name
> means 'butterfly-shark'
>
> --- Ah yes, a fresh water fish! What are those krazy Russians
> doing!? Maybe they prepare it somehow, marinate it in lemon juice or
> something...
>
>

Oh yes...I had totally forgotten that Sturgeon tend to come up rivers.
M

On 2007-09-27 12:05:27 -0700, "Musashi" > said:

>> * Sturgeon cho-same Never eaten raw (fresh water flukes!). The name
>> means 'butterfly-shark'
>>
>> --- Ah yes, a fresh water fish! What are those krazy Russians
>> doing!? Maybe they prepare it somehow, marinate it in lemon juice or
>> something...
>
> Oh yes...I had totally forgotten that Sturgeon tend to come up rivers.

But be careful! Sturgeon can be deadly:

http://tinyurl.com/26g4kh
--
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"Gerry" > wrote in message
news:2007092719041043658-somewhere@sunnycalif...
> On 2007-09-27 12:05:27 -0700, "Musashi" > said:
>
> >> * Sturgeon cho-same Never eaten raw (fresh water flukes!). The name
> >> means 'butterfly-shark'
> >>
> >> --- Ah yes, a fresh water fish! What are those krazy Russians
> >> doing!? Maybe they prepare it somehow, marinate it in lemon juice or
> >> something...
> >
> > Oh yes...I had totally forgotten that Sturgeon tend to come up rivers.
>
> But be careful! Sturgeon can be deadly:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/26g4kh
> --

Amazing. I had no idea that such a bottom dweller
had a tendency to jump.

I find it hard to imagine
that there's much demand for Skate and Shark. It would seem like
there's
plenty of lower-grade white meat fish around.


--- They say that a lot of the "scallops" at the fish market are
actually stamped from skate wings. Didn't we talk about that here a
while back? Was it Dan who said they used to do that but not much any
more?



For Shark and Skate I personally turn to western dishes.
Nothing beats the soft scallop-like poached skate wings of a Raie Au
Buerre
Blanc. And I've enjoyed many fresh
Mako shark steaks that would put swordfish to shame.


--- Yep!

"When I accidentally encounter those Korean skate & noodle dishes in
the
Korean joints, that's dried? It's bone-in or cartilage-in stuff. Man
that is some hard work..."



Cartilege. Shark and skate don't have bones. I don't care for that
dish either.

wrote on Fri, 28 Sep 2007
07:13:56 -0700:

w> --- They say that a lot of the "scallops" at the fish
w> market are actually stamped from skate wings. Didn't we
w> talk about that here a while back? Was it Dan who said they
w> used to do that but not much any more?

w> For Shark and Skate I personally turn to western dishes.
w> Nothing beats the soft scallop-like poached skate wings of a
w> Raie Au Buerre
w> Blanc. And I've enjoyed many fresh
w> Mako shark steaks that would put swordfish to shame.

You bring back memories of childhood in Britain where skate as
"skate knobs", stamped from the wings, was a common inexpensive
component of fish pies and casseroles. It had not then occurred
to the fishmongers to pass them off as scallops but I recall a
mild flavor.

A little question that just occurred to me: is a shellfish a
fish or seafood? :-)


James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On 2007-09-28 07:18:17 -0700, said:

> "When I accidentally encounter those Korean skate & noodle dishes in
> the Korean joints, that's dried? It's bone-in or cartilage-in stuff. Man
> that is some hard work..."
>
> Cartilege. Shark and skate don't have bones. I don't care for that
> dish either.

I've have no entry for cartilege in my dictionary, but do for cartilage.

I had heard faux scallop were stamped from shark, but had never
realized this could be done with skate wing. There's a body there some
where that doesn't have any cartilage to get in the way?
--
///---

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:33:54 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

> A little question that just occurred to me: is a shellfish a
> fish or seafood? :-)



Assuming that you don't mean the question as a joke:

Others will probably disagree, but my answer is that all fish are
seafood, but not all seafood is fish. The term "shellfish" is normally
used mostly for molluscs and crustaceans, neither of which is any kind
of a fish. So molluscs and crustaceans are seafood, but not fish.

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Ken wrote on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:16:24 -0700:

??>> A little question that just occurred to me: is a shellfish
a
??>> fish or seafood? :-)

KB> Assuming that you don't mean the question as a joke:

KB> Others will probably disagree, but my answer is that all
KB> fish are seafood, but not all seafood is fish. The term
KB> "shellfish" is normally used mostly for molluscs and
KB> crustaceans, neither of which is any kind of a fish. So
KB> molluscs and crustaceans are seafood, but not fish.

Not exactly joking but I was rather intrigued by the thought
that a shellfish is not a fish! I'm not really sure what would
be the taxonomic definition tho' I'm not very concerned and
indeed I can be a bit sloppy in the use. It seems almost like
the Maigritte painting of a tobacco pipe with the title "Ceci
n'est pas une pipe" (This is not a pipe)

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:35:53 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

> Ken wrote on Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:16:24 -0700:
>
> ??>> A little question that just occurred to me: is a shellfish
> a
> ??>> fish or seafood? :-)
>
> KB> Assuming that you don't mean the question as a joke:
>
> KB> Others will probably disagree, but my answer is that all
> KB> fish are seafood, but not all seafood is fish. The term
> KB> "shellfish" is normally used mostly for molluscs and
> KB> crustaceans, neither of which is any kind of a fish. So
> KB> molluscs and crustaceans are seafood, but not fish.
>
> Not exactly joking but I was rather intrigued by the thought
> that a shellfish is not a fish!


But the English language has many such examples. Particularly when you
deal with taxonomy, the common name for something often reflects the
ignorance of those who first gave it a name.

For example, a ringtailed cat isn't a cat, a lightning bug isn't a
bug, a prairie dog isn't a dog, a Tasmanian wolf isn't a wolf, a
guinea pig isn't a pig, and so on.

There are lots more examples.

I don't know other languages well enough, but my guess is that this
phenomenon isn't limited to English by a long shot.


> I'm not really sure what would
> be the taxonomic definition tho' I'm not very concerned and
> indeed I can be a bit sloppy in the use. It seems almost like
> the Maigritte painting of a tobacco pipe with the title "Ceci
> n'est pas une pipe" (This is not a pipe)


It's not a pipe. It's a picture of a pipe, which as I understand it,
was Magritte's point. It's sort of like Korzybski's famous statement
that "the map is not the territory."

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Interesting little tangent here, but a lighting bug is a bug, I
think. A sea horse, however, is not a horse, nor is a sea cucumber a
vegetable.

On 2007-09-28 15:41:56 -0700, Ken Blake
> said:

> But the English language has many such examples. Particularly when you
> deal with taxonomy, the common name for something often reflects the
> ignorance of those who first gave it a name.
>
> For example, a ringtailed cat isn't a cat, a lightning bug isn't a
> bug, a prairie dog isn't a dog, a Tasmanian wolf isn't a wolf, a
> guinea pig isn't a pig, and so on.
>
> There are lots more examples.

Oh, I doubt that. I think you've listed them all.
--
///---

On 2007-09-28 18:00:38 -0700, said:

> Interesting little tangent here, but a lighting bug is a bug, I
> think. A sea horse, however, is not a horse, nor is a sea cucumber a
> vegetable.

Okay, then: THAT'S the end of the list.
--
///---

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:00:38 -0700, wrote:

> Interesting little tangent here, but a lighting bug is a bug, I
> think.


No, it's a beetle. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefly


> A sea horse, however, is not a horse, nor is a sea cucumber a
> vegetable.



Correct on both counts.

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"Gerry" > wrote in message
news:2007092911382350878-somewhere@sunnycalif...
> On 2007-09-28 15:41:56 -0700, Ken Blake
> > said:
>
> > But the English language has many such examples. Particularly when you
> > deal with taxonomy, the common name for something often reflects the
> > ignorance of those who first gave it a name.
> >
> > For example, a ringtailed cat isn't a cat, a lightning bug isn't a
> > bug, a prairie dog isn't a dog, a Tasmanian wolf isn't a wolf, a
> > guinea pig isn't a pig, and so on.
> >
> > There are lots more examples.
>
> Oh, I doubt that. I think you've listed them all.
> --

Moving a bit back to topic, I doubt the fish marketers
decided to call Patagonian Toothfish "Chilean Sea Bass"
out of ignorance.
But I do agree that ignorance is probably the most common cause. And it's
not just in English.
Just as many fish are mistakingly named xxx-bass,
(or in the case of Australia xxx-cod) many
fish are mistakingly named xxx-dai, which is Tai the Sea Bream.

M

Musashi wrote:
> "Gerry" > wrote in message
> news:2007092911382350878-somewhere@sunnycalif...
>> On 2007-09-28 15:41:56 -0700, Ken Blake
>> > said:
>>
>>> But the English language has many such examples. Particularly when you
>>> deal with taxonomy, the common name for something often reflects the
>>> ignorance of those who first gave it a name.
>>>
>>> For example, a ringtailed cat isn't a cat, a lightning bug isn't a
>>> bug, a prairie dog isn't a dog, a Tasmanian wolf isn't a wolf, a
>>> guinea pig isn't a pig, and so on.
>>>
>>> There are lots more examples.
>> Oh, I doubt that. I think you've listed them all.
>> --
>
> Moving a bit back to topic, I doubt the fish marketers
> decided to call Patagonian Toothfish "Chilean Sea Bass"
> out of ignorance.
> But I do agree that ignorance is probably the most common cause. And it's
> not just in English.
> Just as many fish are mistakingly named xxx-bass,
> (or in the case of Australia xxx-cod) many
> fish are mistakingly named xxx-dai, which is Tai the Sea Bream.
>
> M
>
>
You are right, it was renamed to Chilean Sea Bass purposefully as a
marketing angle as it sounded a lot better to consumers than 'Patagonian
toothfish. There has even been a book written about the fish, the
marketing history, it's dire situation due to overfishing, and stories
of interdiction efforts against poachers still hauling them in as fast
as they can.... another 'success story' fish like the bluefin tuna

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On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:40:07 -0400, Buddy <why.wood.yew@bother> wrote:

> here's Ken Blake's last post ->:
> > On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:00:38 -0700, wrote:
> >
> >> Interesting little tangent here, but a lighting bug is a bug, I
> >> think.
> >
> >
> > No, it's a beetle. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefly

> ... and is not a beetle a bug?


No.

The word "bug" is *not* synonymous with "insect." The class of insects
is divided into a number of different orders. Bugs are the order
hemiptera. Beetles are the order coleoptera.

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On 2007-10-01 18:25:30 -0700, Ken Blake
> said:

> On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:40:07 -0400, Buddy <why.wood.yew@bother> wrote:
>
>> here's Ken Blake's last post ->:
>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:00:38 -0700, wrote:
>>>
>>>> Interesting little tangent here, but a lighting bug is a bug, I
>>>> think.
>>>
>>>
>>> No, it's a beetle. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefly
>
>> ... and is not a beetle a bug?
>
>
> No.
>
> The word "bug" is *not* synonymous with "insect." The class of insects
> is divided into a number of different orders. Bugs are the order
> hemiptera. Beetles are the order coleoptera.

Dictionaries list books in what is considered the most likely usage.
In my built in dictionary, I get this:

bug |bəg|
noun
1 a small insect.
€¢ informal a harmful microorganism, as a bacterium or virus.
€¢ an illness caused by such a microorganism : suffering from a flu bug.
€¢ [with adj. ] figurative informal an enthusiastic, almost obsessive,
interest in something : they caught the sailing bug | Joe was bitten by
the showbiz bug.
2 (also true bug) Entomology an insect of a large order distinguished
by having mouthparts that are modified for piercing and sucking. €¢
Order Hemiptera: see Hemiptera .
3 a miniature microphone, typically concealed in a room or telephone,
used for surveillance.
4 an error in a computer program or system.


I thought everybody was using definition number one, above.
--
///---

Maybe amongst entomologists a firefly ain't a bug, but for everybody
else a firefly is a bug.

When I was a kid I got the idea to help my parents out and save 'em
electric bills by lighting up our house with fireflies instead of
electric light bulbs, so I went to the park one summer evening and
collected fireflies in a bottle, and thoughtful little feller that I
wuz, I even punched holes in the lid and tossed in a bit of what I
thought might be firefly food, grass or something. The only flaw in
this brilliant plan - the fly in the ointment so to speak - was that
the bottle was wet because I forgot to dry it off after washing out
the mayonnaise or whatever was in it before, and the fireflies didn't
seem too thrilled with a wet bottle, so instead of illuminating my
house they just stuck to the sides and died, not a pretty sight.

"Buddy" <why.wood.yew@bother> wrote in message
...
> here's Ken Blake's last post ->:
>> On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:40:07 -0400, Buddy <why.wood.yew@bother> wrote:
>>
>>> here's Ken Blake's last post ->:
>>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:00:38 -0700, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Interesting little tangent here, but a lighting bug is a bug, I
>>>>> think.
>>>>
>>>> No, it's a beetle. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefly
>>
>>> ... and is not a beetle a bug?
>>
>>
>> No.
>>
>> The word "bug" is *not* synonymous with "insect." The class of insects
>> is divided into a number of different orders. Bugs are the order
>> hemiptera. Beetles are the order coleoptera.
>>
> Hmmmn? So can we say that all bugs are insects, but not all insects are
> bugs?
>
> ><<XX>:> Buddy

Moving on topic a bit, sort of, anywhere that lobsters are
caught by scuba divers and snorkelers, Lobsters are invariably called
"bugs".
This holds true for the northern maine lobster as well as
the florida spiny lobster. I can't remember if californian
divers call their spiny lobsters bugs or not.
Crayfish or crawdads are often called mud bugs as well.
M

On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 08:34:26 -0400, Buddy <why.wood.yew@bother> wrote:

> here's Ken Blake's last post ->:
> > On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:40:07 -0400, Buddy <why.wood.yew@bother> wrote:
> >
> >> here's Ken Blake's last post ->:
> >>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:00:38 -0700, wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Interesting little tangent here, but a lighting bug is a bug, I
> >>>> think.
> >>>
> >>> No, it's a beetle. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefly
> >
> >> ... and is not a beetle a bug?
> >
> >
> > No.
> >
> > The word "bug" is *not* synonymous with "insect." The class of insects
> > is divided into a number of different orders. Bugs are the order
> > hemiptera. Beetles are the order coleoptera.
> >
> Hmmmn? So can we say that all bugs are insects, but not all
> insects are bugs?


Yes.


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Musashi wrote:
> "Buddy" <why.wood.yew@bother> wrote in message
> ...
>> here's Ken Blake's last post ->:
>>> On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:40:07 -0400, Buddy <why.wood.yew@bother> wrote:
>>>
>>>> here's Ken Blake's last post ->:
>>>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:00:38 -0700, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting little tangent here, but a lighting bug is a bug, I
>>>>>> think.
>>>>> No, it's a beetle. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefly
>>>> ... and is not a beetle a bug?
>>>
>>> No.
>>>
>>> The word "bug" is *not* synonymous with "insect." The class of insects
>>> is divided into a number of different orders. Bugs are the order
>>> hemiptera. Beetles are the order coleoptera.
>>>
>> Hmmmn? So can we say that all bugs are insects, but not all insects are
>> bugs?
>>
>>> <<XX>:> Buddy
>
> Moving on topic a bit, sort of, anywhere that lobsters are
> caught by scuba divers and snorkelers, Lobsters are invariably called
> "bugs".
> This holds true for the northern maine lobster as well as
> the florida spiny lobster. I can't remember if californian
> divers call their spiny lobsters bugs or not.
> Crayfish or crawdads are often called mud bugs as well.
> M
>
>
"Seabugs" is what we always called them (and I still do when around more
squeamish diners).

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Lamprey sushi, it says...

http://www.crappie.com/gr8vb3/showthread.php?t=45309