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Cinco de Mayo
Jim Lane > wrote in message >...
> Actually, a lot of them refer to "Americans" like you as a++holes. Canadians use the term "American." Karen |
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Cinco de Mayo
Jim Lane > wrote in message >...
> As the dictionary shows, American is NOT exclusive to those of us from > the US. Are you some kind of bigot? Try any dictionary. Ooops, you're > not a bigot, you're a blonde. You've called me every name in the book, and have even played the color card, and I'm the bigot? w. Karen |
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Cinco de Mayo
Jim Lane > wrote in message >...
> Actually, airhead, some people refer to those of us from the US as > USians to separate us from the rest of the Americans. Now, find that in > your dictionary. I've never heard USians. How do you pronounce that? I recently got back from a trip to Ireland. My traveling companion is sensitive using the term America, too... she doesn't use it. When talking with the locals, she would use the term "The States," instead of America. The Irish, when replying, used the word "America." Karen |
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Cinco de Mayo
Jim Lane > wrote in message >...
> Irrelevant, bimbo, in case the roaring obvious has raced right past you > without notice. I have heard more than one Mexican refer to himself as > an American, just to make the point that he is. Show me an instance. tia, Karen |
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Cinco de Mayo
Jim Lane > wrote in message >...
> Actually, airhead, some people refer to those of us from the US as > USians to separate us from the rest of the Americans. Now, find that in > your dictionary. Well, you use the word American... a quick Google on Jim Lane: <<Kansas, Chicago, Boston, America, and Alabama are places not groups.>> alt.mountain-bike <<Another area might be, as corporate American has flattened organizations to save money or speed up operations. . ., have>> soc.org.nonprofit <<Not for the American cuisine, but for it being KK. If you do, make sure they are hot (when the light is on) otherwise, they are greasy sweet lumps.>> rec.food.cooking Anyway, gotta go, Mr. San Diego. Karen |
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Cinco de Mayo
Karen O'Mara wrote:
> Jim Lane > wrote in message >... > >>Irrelevant, bimbo, in case the roaring obvious has raced right past you >>without notice. I have heard more than one Mexican refer to himself as >>an American, just to make the point that he is. > > > Show me an instance. > > tia, > Karen Are you trying to be stooopid? A couple have written so right here. Did they use any words you didn't understand? Perhaps you need to get into the streets and out of your books or whatever. Come to some cross-border/cross-cultural conferences. jim |
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Cinco de Mayo
Karen O'Mara wrote:
> Jim Lane > wrote in message >... > >>As the dictionary shows, American is NOT exclusive to those of us from >>the US. Are you some kind of bigot? Try any dictionary. Ooops, you're >>not a bigot, you're a blonde. > > > You've called me every name in the book, and have even played the > color card, and I'm the bigot? > > w. > > Karen What color card? Calling you a blonde? You are arrogant, your posts have proven that. You are ethnocentric, your posts have proven that. You are self-referencing, your posts have proven that. So, that leaves bimbo, blonde and red-neck. All three of those are attitudes or lack of aware intelligence and your posts have proven them. Keep in mind, you don't have to be either Jewish or a mother to be a Jewish mother. ("How to be a Jewish Mother," Daniel Greenberg). On another note, it seems as though the message is getting through to you and that in a small flicker of hope. jim |
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Cinco de Mayo
Karen O'Mara wrote:
> Jim Lane > wrote in message >... > > >>Actually, airhead, some people refer to those of us from the US as >>USians to separate us from the rest of the Americans. Now, find that in >>your dictionary. > > > I've never heard USians. How do you pronounce that? > > I recently got back from a trip to Ireland. My traveling companion is > sensitive using the term America, too... she doesn't use it. When > talking with the locals, she would use the term "The States," instead > of America. The Irish, when replying, used the word "America." > > Karen U-S-ians. Your Irish would have made a mistake had the people been light-skinned Spanish extract people from Mexico City where blonde hair and blue eyes can be found. Same for Argentina where there is a large German influence. jim |
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Cinco de Mayo
Karen O'Mara wrote:
> Jim Lane > wrote in message >... > >>Actually, airhead, some people refer to those of us from the US as >>USians to separate us from the rest of the Americans. Now, find that in >>your dictionary. > > > Well, you use the word American... a quick Google on Jim Lane: > > <<Kansas, Chicago, Boston, America, and Alabama are places not > groups.>> alt.mountain-bike > > <<Another area might be, as corporate American has flattened > organizations to save money or speed up operations. . ., have>> > soc.org.nonprofit > > <<Not for the American cuisine, but for it being KK. If you do, make > sure > they are hot (when the light is on) otherwise, they are greasy sweet > lumps.>> rec.food.cooking > > Anyway, gotta go, Mr. San Diego. > > Karen I'm flattered. I'd look you up, but there is only so much idiocy that I can tolerate in a day and you are doing an more-than-adequate job right here. What you have totally overlooked was the context. But, there's hope for you. Here, I was making a point here that far too often we do this and that just because we do don't make it necessarily so. The other threads are irrelevant, because nowhere have I said that I do not make this mistake. I do, but at least I am conscious of what I have done, otherwise, you're just like that Texan, ignorant of what you are doing or just not caring. jim jim |
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Cinco de Mayo
Karen O'Mara wrote:
> Jim Lane > wrote in message >... > > >>Actually, airhead, some people refer to those of us from the US as >>USians to separate us from the rest of the Americans. Now, find that in >>your dictionary. > > > I've never heard USians. How do you pronounce that? > > I recently got back from a trip to Ireland. My traveling companion is > sensitive using the term America, too... she doesn't use it. When > talking with the locals, she would use the term "The States," instead > of America. The Irish, when replying, used the word "America." > > Karen Hey, just hot a thread in rec.food.cooking where another person used "USian:" Well I am not going to help your hypothesis. I never eat at those places and am a native born USian. -- Peter Aitken It is not very common, but I am seeing it more frequently. jim |
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Cinco de Mayo
Dan Abel wrote:
> In article >, wrote: > > >>Karen O'Mara wrote: > > >>>Your name-calling shows your agitation and intolerance. > > >>My dictionary says a country in Noorth or South america. That makes them >>American. Go argue with your Funk and Wagnalls. >> >>You are an arrogant, ethnocentic, self-referencing ignorant bimbo. >>That's not name calling. It is a statement of fact. > > > > Karen has always been a respectful and polite poster, even if she is wrong > in this one instance. > > I think what Karen is arguing is that it is true that people in the US > call themselves "americans". I agree with that. My point is that people > outside the US don't agree with this definition, and neither does the > dictionary (at least not as an exclusive meaning). As this is an > international newsgroup, we should honor the international definition and > not what people in the US think. > Precisely the point I raised in my first post. Anyone who has travelled internationally and paid attention (I'll admit sometimes the clues are very subtle or abstract), would start to catch the drift. Those of us along the border can see it happening daily. I agree with your accessment of Karen. This sub-thread has been an exception to her normal demeanor. jim |
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Cinco de Mayo
Jim Lane > wrote in message >...
> Precisely the point I raised in my first post. Anyone who has travelled > internationally and paid attention (I'll admit sometimes the clues are > very subtle or abstract), would start to catch the drift. Those of us > along the border can see it happening daily. > > I agree with your accessment of Karen. This sub-thread has been an > exception to her normal demeanor. Ew you irk me. I have been paying attention to the TV and news stations while I have been at home sick with the flu. CNN reports a Pakistani newspaper referring to "the Americans...," and more. Whether the BBC or the International Channel, American term is clear. I am not wrong with this, that "American" identifies someone from the USA. However, the closer I look, the term, when used by non-Americans, is usually used in an unflattering way. While calling someone American, or referring to America, it many times is not as polite as I wish it would be. I'm certain the "beheaded American" was clearly intended and reported as an American by those Iraqis (or whoever they were under those hoods). Karen |
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Cinco de Mayo
Karen O'Mara wrote:
> Jim Lane > wrote in message >... > >>Precisely the point I raised in my first post. Anyone who has travelled >>internationally and paid attention (I'll admit sometimes the clues are >>very subtle or abstract), would start to catch the drift. Those of us >>along the border can see it happening daily. >> >>I agree with your accessment of Karen. This sub-thread has been an >>exception to her normal demeanor. > > > Ew you irk me. > > I have been paying attention to the TV and news stations while I have > been at home sick with the flu. CNN reports a Pakistani newspaper > referring to "the Americans...," and more. Whether the BBC or the > International Channel, American term is clear. I am not wrong with > this, that "American" identifies someone from the USA. However, the > closer I look, the term, when used by non-Americans, is usually used > in an unflattering way. While calling someone American, or referring > to America, it many times is not as polite as I wish it would be. > > I'm certain the "beheaded American" was clearly intended and reported > as an American by those Iraqis (or whoever they were under those > hoods). > > Karen And we can thank the rude, self-centered "Americans" that have been impressing Europeans while on the European summer vacations for a good measure of this disparagement. It has been going on for a very long time and heavily since WWII when tourists thought Europeans should thank them personally for having spit on their sidewalks. Get over your attitude. Others have iterated the same to you as I have. Live and learn or be an ugly American. Your choice. jim |
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Cinco de Mayo
Jim Lane > wrote in message >...
> And we can thank the rude, self-centered "Americans" that have been > impressing Europeans while on the European summer vacations for a good > measure of this disparagement. It has been going on for a very long time > and heavily since WWII when tourists thought Europeans should thank them > personally for having spit on their sidewalks. > > Get over your attitude. Others have iterated the same to you as I have. > Live and learn or be an ugly American. Your choice. Last-liner Lane, your hatred goes beyond my comprehension. |
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Cinco de Mayo
Karen O'Mara wrote:
> Jim Lane > wrote in message >... > >>And we can thank the rude, self-centered "Americans" that have been >>impressing Europeans while on the European summer vacations for a good >>measure of this disparagement. It has been going on for a very long time >>and heavily since WWII when tourists thought Europeans should thank them >>personally for having spit on their sidewalks. >> >>Get over your attitude. Others have iterated the same to you as I have. >>Live and learn or be an ugly American. Your choice. > > > Last-liner Lane, your hatred goes beyond my comprehension. Interesting you label me with what you are. Your bigotry over the word "American" being reserved for those form the USA is patently clear. Are you really this stoooopid or are you being deliberately dense? You give mentalmidgetry a new low standard. jim |
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Cinco de Mayo
On Fri, 14 May 2004 18:11:22 -0700, Jim Lane wrote:
> > Last-liner Lane, your hatred goes beyond my comprehension. > > Interesting you label me with what you are. Your bigotry over the word > "American" being reserved for those form the USA is patently clear. Are > you really this stoooopid or are you being deliberately dense? You give > mentalmidgetry a new low standard. While I've tended to agree more with your POV than with Karen, she seem decent enough, while you come across as one of the unfortunates responsible for the internet's reputation for noteriety. |
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Cinco de Mayo
BillB wrote:
> On Fri, 14 May 2004 18:11:22 -0700, Jim Lane wrote: > > >>>Last-liner Lane, your hatred goes beyond my comprehension. >> >>Interesting you label me with what you are. Your bigotry over the word >>"American" being reserved for those form the USA is patently clear. Are >>you really this stoooopid or are you being deliberately dense? You give >>mentalmidgetry a new low standard. > > > While I've tended to agree more with your POV than with Karen, she > seem decent enough, while you come across as one of the unfortunates > responsible for the internet's reputation for noteriety. When you are dealing with a person who cannot "just get it," despite everyone's effort, (or in this case, perhaps, being deliberately obtuse and dense) you have to paint it in words they can understand, like "stooopid." It has been put up here in different individual's words and even in multiple dictionary definitions. All has gone right over her head. So, time to aim for the gut as her head doesn't have the capability of getting it. jim |
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Cinco de Mayo
On Sat, 15 May 2004 10:44:32 -0700, Jim Lane >
wrote: >When you are dealing with a person who cannot "just get it," despite >everyone's effort, ... Would anyone else here be willing to get back to talking about Mexican food and let this other stuff rest? This weekend, I roasted a pork butt before making green chile stew, rather than just cutting up the meat and browning and stewing it. Worked great, and I'm sure I'll keep doing it that way. I roasted it until just before the "shredded pork" stage. For the other part of the meat, I'll either cook it more to shred for tacos, or cube it for posole. Life is good! David |
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