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Wusthof!
 
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We have a just-bought unused Wusthof knife 10 piece set

3 paring, 1 utility, 1 Chef's, 1 vegetable, 1 bread knives
1 pair of shears, 1 honing steel
1 wood-block (has extra slots for two large and six steak knives)

Handle style: Grand Prix. Price paid: $449.
(Reviews at http://tinyurl.com/38sht , keep in mind that the prices and
photographs refer to smaller sets or individual knives. Individual
prices for items in this set add up to more than $700)

Asking price: $399, or $349 without the block (just in case you have
your own block or prefer another storage method).

----> Prefer Chicago area cash-and-carry sale.
----> Send email to nushar at operamail dot com
----> Please include a daytime phone number.

(In case you are wondering why I am selling. Everyone has known we need
knives and like Wusthof. A few days after I bought this set on a
business trip, my wife got the word her parents are planning to gift
her a Wusthof set on her forthcoming birthday! I decided to silently
restore the status quo, but returning it would be a hassle as I have
misplaced the receipt and it was bought in another city anyway.)
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"Wusthof!" wrote, in part:
> (In case you are wondering why I am selling. Everyone has known we need
> knives and like Wusthof. A few days after I bought this set on a
> business trip, my wife got the word her parents are planning to gift
> her a Wusthof set on her forthcoming birthday!


<seeeeethe>

I hate that. I absolutely hate that! The word is GIVE! They are planning to
GIVE her a set on her birthday, not GIFT her one!


AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!



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"Pennyaline" > wrote in
message ...
> "Wusthof!" wrote, in part:
> > (In case you are wondering why I am selling. Everyone has known we need
> > knives and like Wusthof. A few days after I bought this set on a
> > business trip, my wife got the word her parents are planning to gift
> > her a Wusthof set on her forthcoming birthday!

>
> <seeeeethe>
>
> I hate that. I absolutely hate that! The word is GIVE! They are planning

to
> GIVE her a set on her birthday, not GIFT her one!
>
>
> AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!


From Webster's, see #3.

Main Entry: 1gift
Pronunciation: 'gift
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old Norse, something given, talent; akin to
Old English giefan to give
1 : a notable capacity, talent, or endowment
2 : something voluntarily transferred by one person to another without
compensation
3 : the act, right, or power of giving

Is English your first language? As a native speaker I can attest that using
gift as a verb is correct.

> AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!


Methinks your frustration may have a deeper cause.


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Pennyaline
 
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"Kyle Holland" sneered for some reason:
> From Webster's, see #3.
>
> Main Entry: 1gift
> Pronunciation: 'gift
> Function: noun
> Etymology: Middle English, from Old Norse, something given, talent; akin

to
> Old English giefan to give
> 1 : a notable capacity, talent, or endowment
> 2 : something voluntarily transferred by one person to another without
> compensation
> 3 : the act, right, or power of giving


So according to the information you provided, it is a noun. Neither a gerund
nor a verb, but a noun. Therefore, the verb is not TO GIFT but TO GIVE.
(verbs are conjugated in the "to _______" form, but in actual use the "to"
is most often dropped)

If you go further into your dictionary, you will see that GIFT is only a
verb when used to describe endowment with a talent or quality, as in a
"gifted child." If we stuck to your logic, evey child who gets a birthday
present is "gifted." See the difference?


> Is English your first language? As a native speaker I can attest that

using
> gift as a verb is correct.


Do you know that native speakers of a given language are the most likely to
use it sloppily and incorrectly? Just asking

My first language is indeed English, and I am an English major to boot. It's
my observation that those who use GIFT as a verb are simply repeating
someone elses error because it sounded swell, in an act of ignorant
pretention. They are wrong, as are you.


> > AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!

>
> Methinks your frustration may have a deeper cause.


Yawnworthy.


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Pennyaline > wrote:

> If you go further into your dictionary, you will see that GIFT is only a
> verb when used to describe endowment with a talent or quality, as in a
> "gifted child."...My first language is indeed English, and I am an English
> major to boot.


English has moved since your teachers learned their grammar and
vocabulary. You are probably also fuming about "mother", "dad", etc.,
being used as verbs. As in "don't mother me", or "How to dad?" (the
second one is the title of a book).


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A few persons have complained I forgot to put "for sale" in the subject
line. I did, my apologies, here it is.

> We have a just-bought unused Wusthof knife 10 piece set
>
> 3 paring, 1 utility, 1 Chef's, 1 vegetable, 1 bread knives
> 1 pair of shears, 1 honing steel
> 1 wood-block (has extra slots for two large and six steak knives)
>
> Handle style: Grand Prix. Price paid: $449.
> (Reviews at http://tinyurl.com/38sht , keep in mind that the prices and
> photographs refer to smaller sets or individual knives. Individual
> prices for items in this set add up to more than $700)
>
> Asking price: $399, or $349 without the block (just in case you have
> your own block or prefer another storage method).


I was in a fancy store, fell in love with the knives, and paid their
asking price of $449. If it is ineed available for $399 (plus
shipping?), I will consider somewat lower offers.

> ----> Prefer Chicago area cash-and-carry sale.
> ----> Send email to nushar at operamail dot com


Operamail is flaking right now. Also copy to akt01 at hotmail dot com .

> ----> Please include a daytime phone number.


Please do.

> (In case you are wondering why I am selling. Everyone has known we need
> knives and like Wusthof. A few days after I bought this set on a
> business trip, my wife got the word her parents are planning to gift
> her a Wusthof set on her forthcoming birthday! I decided to silently
> restore the status quo, but returning it would be a hassle as I have
> misplaced the receipt and it was bought in another city anyway.)

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> My first language is indeed English, and I am an English major to boot.
It's
> my observation that those who use GIFT as a verb are simply repeating
> someone elses error because it sounded swell, in an act of ignorant
> pretention. They are wrong, as are you.


What about "re-gift"?

We did that last weekend for a kid's birthday party.

You know, we "re-gifted" the second My Little Pony set to the kid having the
party.

--SCP

PS: noone even jumped on the misspelled word in the title. "nife"


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In chi.forsale Pennyaline > wrote:

> So according to the information you provided, it is a noun. Neither a gerund
> nor a verb, but a noun. Therefore, the verb is not TO GIFT but TO GIVE.
> (verbs are conjugated in the "to _______" form, but in actual use the "to"
> is most often dropped)


> If you go further into your dictionary, you will see that GIFT is only a
> verb when used to describe endowment with a talent or quality, as in a
> "gifted child." If we stuck to your logic, evey child who gets a birthday
> present is "gifted." See the difference?


Sorry to burst your bubble, but my OED (New Shorter, 1993) has the
following as its second entry for "gift":

gift /gift/ v.t. L16. [f. the n.] 1 Endow or provide with a gift or gifts;
endow or present with as a gift. L16. 2 Bestow as a gift (foll. by to);
give away. E17.

Two of the examples are these:

-- (for definition 1) Daily Telegraph - You can .. be gifted up to
[pounds]90,000 before you become liable to tax.

-- (for definition 2) J. C. Lees - The Regent Murray gifted all the
Church Property to Lord Semphill.

So, according to The Authority On The English Language, the word "gift"
has been used as a transitive verb (in the context of transferring
tangible property from one entity to another) for at least 400 years.

Also note that, under this definition, the meaning of "gifted child" would
be something like "a child who has been given [by his parents, etc.] to
another [caretaker, etc.]."

What is it that makes English majors so pompous? I was a math major, and
I readily admit that I'd probably need some remedial study in order to do
some basic high school precalculus stuff. That's simply not what I
studied in college. I don't know any English majors whose coursework
involved memorizing the dictionary, either, but they all seem to feel like
they're such authorities.
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"wbw" > wrote in message
...
> In chi.forsale Pennyaline

> wrote:
> Sorry to burst your bubble, but my OED (New Shorter, 1993) has the
> following as its second entry for "gift":
>
> gift /gift/ v.t. L16. [f. the n.] 1 Endow or provide with a gift or gifts;
> endow or present with as a gift. L16. 2 Bestow as a gift (foll. by to);
> give away. E17.


This usage is very common in the legal parlance of estate planning as well,
and I believe "re-gift" is a neologism created by the writers of Seinfeld
(see http://www.wordspy.com/words/regift.asp).

There were some harsh words for English majors. Although I was a physics
major, I am acutely aware of errors of diction. As it happens, this ain't
one of them!

PS to Wusthof: Why don't you just bite the bullet and get comfortable with
Ebay? Or stick to the "marketplace" groups?


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wbw > wrote:

> Sorry to burst your bubble, but my OED (New Shorter, 1993) has the
> following as its second entry for "gift":
>
> gift /gift/ v.t. L16. [f. the n.] 1 Endow or provide with a gift or gifts;
> endow or present with as a gift. L16. 2 Bestow as a gift (foll. by to);
> give away. E17.
> ...


Good authoritative example.

> What is it that makes English majors so pompous?...


Most have absorbed the limited perspective of their teachers (and
TA's). In hiring them, colleges do not seek literary and linguistic
giants, just people able to instruct those who know nothing.


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"Pennyaline" > wrote in
message ...

>
> If you go further into your dictionary, you will see that GIFT is only a
> verb when used to describe endowment with a talent or quality, as in a
> "gifted child." If we stuck to your logic, evey child who gets a birthday
> present is "gifted." See the difference?
>


Ummmmmm........ Wouldn't that usage be considered an adjective?

At the risk of inviting scorn to be heaped upon my own fine self, what about
good ol' Chicago Cutlery? http://www.chicagocutlery.com/




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Pennyaline wrote:
> Wusthof! wrote:
>
> > (In case you are wondering why I am selling. Everyone has known we need
> > knives and like Wusthof. A few days after I bought this set on a
> > business trip, my wife got the word her parents are planning to gift
> > her a Wusthof set on her forthcoming birthday!

>
> <seeeeethe>
> I hate that. I absolutely hate that! The word is GIVE! They are planning to
> GIVE her a set on her birthday, not GIFT her one!


Incorrect. The word is "spam" neither "gift" nor "give". Newsgroup
list trimmed.
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they is $399 on chef.com

http://www.cooking.com/products/shprodde.asp?SKU=190483

dang nice nives....

care to trade for a 20gb ipod?
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trade for a 20gb ipod?
they're $399 on chef.com

http://www.cooking.com/products/shprodde.asp?SKU=190483

((sorry I replied to the other posting))
nice knives! they'll go with my henckels!
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"RPS" wrote:
> > What is it that makes English majors so pompous?...

>
> Most have absorbed the limited perspective of their teachers (and
> TA's). In hiring them, colleges do not seek literary and linguistic
> giants, just people able to instruct those who know nothing.


Oh, I'm sorry. Maybe the fact that my English major is my second, and
Nursing is my first (financial aid to train in Nursing was plentiful and
easy to get back then). I finished my BA in 1999, so it wasn't quite the
Stone Age, and I was 40 so I wasn't too terribly impressionable or stupid...

Well gosh. There's just no telling, is there.

<And I thought my BS degree took a lot of heat!>

Sorry guys, but GIFT is wrong. It's one of the products of sound bite
mentality, where day to day language and usage is shaped to resemble
advertisements. Frankly, I couldn't care less if you find it in the OED.
That it's there doesn't mean it's correct. It only means that it's used.




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"Pennyaline" > wrote in
message

> Oh, I'm sorry. Maybe the fact that my English major is my second, and
> Nursing is my first (financial aid to train in Nursing was plentiful and
> easy to get back then). I finished my BA in 1999, so it wasn't quite the
> Stone Age, and I was 40 so I wasn't too terribly impressionable or

stupid...>

> Sorry guys, but GIFT is wrong. It's one of the products of sound bite
> mentality, where day to day language and usage is shaped to resemble
> advertisements. Frankly, I couldn't care less if you find it in the OED.
> That it's there doesn't mean it's correct. It only means that it's used.


Do you work in a hospital where athoritative texts are ignored? Would you
tell me the name of this dangerous institution?


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"Kyle Holland" > wrote in message
. com...
>
> "Pennyaline" > wrote in
> message ...
> > "Wusthof!" wrote, in part:
> > > (In case you are wondering why I am selling. Everyone has known we

need
> > > knives and like Wusthof. A few days after I bought this set on a
> > > business trip, my wife got the word her parents are planning to gift
> > > her a Wusthof set on her forthcoming birthday!

> >
> > <seeeeethe>
> >
> > I hate that. I absolutely hate that! The word is GIVE! They are planning

> to
> > GIVE her a set on her birthday, not GIFT her one!
> >
> >
> > AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!

>
> From Webster's, see #3.
>
> Main Entry: 1gift
> Pronunciation: 'gift
> Function: noun
> Etymology: Middle English, from Old Norse, something given, talent; akin

to
> Old English giefan to give
> 1 : a notable capacity, talent, or endowment
> 2 : something voluntarily transferred by one person to another without
> compensation
> 3 : the act, right, or power of giving
>
> Is English your first language? As a native speaker I can attest that

using
> gift as a verb is correct.
>
> > AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!

>
> Methinks your frustration may have a deeper cause.
>

I hate to jump in a ****in' contest like this, but your own definition
mentions nothing about about verbs...it clearly states "noun". Draw yer own
conclusions.
Jack


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"Ray & Kathy Albertson" > wrote in message
...
>
> "wbw" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In chi.forsale Pennyaline

> > wrote:
> > Sorry to burst your bubble, but my OED (New Shorter, 1993) has the
> > following as its second entry for "gift":
> >
> > gift /gift/ v.t. L16. [f. the n.] 1 Endow or provide with a gift or

gifts;
> > endow or present with as a gift. L16. 2 Bestow as a gift (foll. by

to);
> > give away. E17.

>
> This usage is very common in the legal parlance of estate planning as

well,
> and I believe "re-gift" is a neologism created by the writers of Seinfeld


OK , OK The damn lawyers did it .I'll buy that one.
Jack


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"Jack Sloan" > wrote in message
-
> >
> > From Webster's, see #3.
> >
> > Main Entry: 1gift
> > Pronunciation: 'gift
> > Function: noun
> > Etymology: Middle English, from Old Norse, something given, talent; akin

> to
> > Old English giefan to give
> > 1 : a notable capacity, talent, or endowment
> > 2 : something voluntarily transferred by one person to another without
> > compensation
> > 3 : the act, right, or power of giving
> >
> > Is English your first language? As a native speaker I can attest that

> using
> > gift as a verb is correct.
> >
> > > AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!

> >
> > Methinks your frustration may have a deeper cause.
> >

> I hate to jump in a ****in' contest like this, but your own definition
> mentions nothing about about verbs...it clearly states "noun". Draw yer

own
> conclusions.
> Jack


Well, if you insist:

Main Entry: 2gift
Function: transitive verb
1 : to endow with some power, quality, or attribute
2 : PRESENT <generously gifted us with a copy -- Saturday Review>


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Pennyaline > wrote:

> > Most have absorbed the limited perspective of their teachers (and
> > TA's). In hiring them, colleges do not seek literary and linguistic
> > giants, just people able to instruct those who know nothing.

>
> Oh, I'm sorry. Maybe the fact that my English major is my second,...
> Sorry guys, but GIFT is wrong...


College courses don't make you an expert in any subject. They just take
you one step beyond high school. I am sure you know that.

> Frankly, I couldn't care less if you find it in the OED. That it's there
> doesn't mean it's correct. It only means that it's used.


Instead of acting childish, try to learn from those who have dedicated
their entire lives to these issues. (Of course, you have every right to
prefer GIVE to GIFT in your own speech and writing, no one is taking
that away.)


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It drives me absolutely bonkers too. It's amazing what passes for proper
English these days, especially on the 'net. But I gave up trying to teach
pigs how to dance a *long* time ago...

>>> Pennyaline<nsmitchell@spamspamspamspamspamqwestand spam.com> 5/6/2004

6:34:17 PM >>>
"Wusthof!" wrote, in part:
> (In case you are wondering why I am selling. Everyone has known we need
> knives and like Wusthof. A few days after I bought this set on a
> business trip, my wife got the word her parents are planning to gift
> her a Wusthof set on her forthcoming birthday!


<seeeeethe>

I hate that. I absolutely hate that! The word is GIVE! They are planning to
GIVE her a set on her birthday, not GIFT her one!


AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!





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Ray & Kathy Albertson
 
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"Pennyaline" > wrote in
message ...
> "RPS" wrote:
> Sorry guys, but GIFT is wrong. It's one of the products of sound bite
> mentality, where day to day language and usage is shaped to resemble
> advertisements. Frankly, I couldn't care less if you find it in the OED.



What--you DARE to question the OED?!? NOW you've crossed the line. The
history of English dictionaries parallels the development of constitutional
and representative government. Authoritative pioneers like Johnson and
Webster were like lexicographic kings: if Johnson said that the definition
of "lexicographer" was "a harmless drudge," then, voila! It was so. The
OED represents the overthrow of 18th century tyrants by constitutional
governments. When the people speak on how a word should be used--by
actually using that word in particular and demonstrable ways in significant
numbers--then the language is amended, and modern dictionaries reflect the
record of that evolution.

Real dictionaries (like the OED) document the language; they don't presume
to dictate to the people their sacred right to coin, modify, pervert, and
even abandon words as the people see fit.

Death (metaphorically speaking) to lexicographic tyranny!




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"Kyle Holland" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "Jack Sloan" > wrote in message
> -
> > >
> > > From Webster's, see #3.
> > >
> > > Main Entry: 1gift
> > > Pronunciation: 'gift
> > > Function: noun
> > > Etymology: Middle English, from Old Norse, something given, talent;

akin
> > to
> > > Old English giefan to give
> > > 1 : a notable capacity, talent, or endowment
> > > 2 : something voluntarily transferred by one person to another without
> > > compensation
> > > 3 : the act, right, or power of giving
> > >
> > > Is English your first language? As a native speaker I can attest that

> > using
> > > gift as a verb is correct.
> > >
> > > > AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!
> > >
> > > Methinks your frustration may have a deeper cause.
> > >

> > I hate to jump in a ****in' contest like this, but your own definition
> > mentions nothing about about verbs...it clearly states "noun". Draw yer

> own
> > conclusions.
> > Jack

>
> Well, if you insist:
>
> Main Entry: 2gift
> Function: transitive verb
> 1 : to endow with some power, quality, or attribute
> 2 : PRESENT <generously gifted us with a copy -- Saturday Review>
>

Dammit, I didn't say go find more definitions ...Hows a guy ever gonna win a
****in' contest when ya keep changin' the rules?
Jack


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Funny

"Jack Sloan" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Kyle Holland" > wrote in message
> . ..
> >
> > "Jack Sloan" > wrote in message
> > -
> > > >
> > > > From Webster's, see #3.
> > > >
> > > > Main Entry: 1gift
> > > > Pronunciation: 'gift
> > > > Function: noun
> > > > Etymology: Middle English, from Old Norse, something given, talent;

> akin
> > > to
> > > > Old English giefan to give
> > > > 1 : a notable capacity, talent, or endowment
> > > > 2 : something voluntarily transferred by one person to another

without
> > > > compensation
> > > > 3 : the act, right, or power of giving
> > > >
> > > > Is English your first language? As a native speaker I can attest

that
> > > using
> > > > gift as a verb is correct.
> > > >
> > > > > AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!
> > > >
> > > > Methinks your frustration may have a deeper cause.
> > > >
> > > I hate to jump in a ****in' contest like this, but your own definition
> > > mentions nothing about about verbs...it clearly states "noun". Draw

yer
> > own
> > > conclusions.
> > > Jack

> >
> > Well, if you insist:
> >
> > Main Entry: 2gift
> > Function: transitive verb
> > 1 : to endow with some power, quality, or attribute
> > 2 : PRESENT <generously gifted us with a copy -- Saturday Review>
> >

> Dammit, I didn't say go find more definitions ...Hows a guy ever gonna win

a
> ****in' contest when ya keep changin' the rules?
> Jack
>
>



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In chi.forsale Pennyaline > wrote:

> Sorry guys, but GIFT is wrong. It's one of the products of sound bite
> mentality, where day to day language and usage is shaped to resemble
> advertisements. Frankly, I couldn't care less if you find it in the OED.
> That it's there doesn't mean it's correct. It only means that it's used.


Look, the OED has multiple examples of the word being used in this way,
dating back to the Late 16th Century (1570-1599). They're not ****ing
around... they've done the research and they have the documentation.
You're telling me that the "sound bite mentality" existed in Shakespeare's
day? We're talking about the time in which Modern English really came
into its own as a language, as far as I know.


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Ok, let's put this to bed.

If I want to communicate effectively I'll choose words that are precise and
without pretense.

The word GIFT as the original poster used it, is good. It communicates the
point accurately, without generalization. Example:

Give me the box.

Now, does this mean "hand the box to me"? It can. It could also mean
"Transfer the ownership of that box from you to me."

If I say "Gift me the box" well, there is left little room for
interpretation. It means one thing only, namely "Transfer ownership of that
box from you to me without something of value in return"

This is good communication, as the language used is precise and isn't
flowery.

Do you now understand a value of accurate communication, pennyaline, or do
you still think that the OED is best used as a doorstop?




"wbw" > wrote in message
...
> In chi.forsale Pennyaline

> wrote:
>
> > Sorry guys, but GIFT is wrong. It's one of the products of sound bite
> > mentality, where day to day language and usage is shaped to resemble
> > advertisements. Frankly, I couldn't care less if you find it in the OED.
> > That it's there doesn't mean it's correct. It only means that it's used.

>
> Look, the OED has multiple examples of the word being used in this way,
> dating back to the Late 16th Century (1570-1599). They're not ****ing
> around... they've done the research and they have the documentation.
> You're telling me that the "sound bite mentality" existed in Shakespeare's
> day? We're talking about the time in which Modern English really came
> into its own as a language, as far as I know.



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Sir Nose > wrote:
>>>> Pennyaline<nsmitchell@spamspamspamspamspamqwestand spam.com> 5/6/2004

>6:34:17 PM >>>
>"Wusthof!" wrote, in part:
>> (In case you are wondering why I am selling. Everyone has known we need
>> knives and like Wusthof. A few days after I bought this set on a
>> business trip, my wife got the word her parents are planning to gift
>> her a Wusthof set on her forthcoming birthday!

>
><seeeeethe>
>
>I hate that. I absolutely hate that! The word is GIVE! They are planning to
>GIVE her a set on her birthday, not GIFT her one!
>
>It drives me absolutely bonkers too. It's amazing what passes for proper
>English these days, especially on the 'net. But I gave up trying to teach
>pigs how to dance a *long* time ago...


Does she have to give it back, or was it gifted to her?

--Blair
"Floccinaucinertz."
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