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We've been incorporating more raw - or should I say "unprocessed" -
food into our diets in an effort to, well, eat more healthfully.
Uncooked produce has the dual benefit of not having as much of the
unhealthful stuff associated with it (fats, etc.) and having far more
of the healthful stuff (vitamins, enzymes, anti-oxidants, etc.).

But "raw food" as a term has a bad rap - folks think of it as freakish
at best, cultish at worst. And in part with good reason - many of the
websites do give that impression.

The reality, however, is that any time you put together a dish with
fresh produce or nuts or grains, which haven't been cooked, well,
you've created a raw food dish!

So, what are your favourite recipes for things which incorporate fresh
produce, fresh grains, etc., which have not been (and do not get)
cooked? Points for recipes which are *not* salads, juices or smoothies
(although of course they are welcome too!)

I've actually been so frustrated trying to find decent websites about
this subject that I finally created my own at
http://www.AdventuresInRawFood.com - and there are discussion forums
there! (Remember the old RFC "what we had for dinner" thread? It's up
on Adventures in Raw Food now!..would love to have y'all post there!:
http://www.adventuresinrawfood.com/?a=xdforum)
There is also a place in the forums to post and discuss recipes, in fact!

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Anne Mitchell Young wrote:
> We've been incorporating more raw - or should I say "unprocessed" -
> food into our diets in an effort to, well, eat more healthfully.
> Uncooked produce has the dual benefit of not having as much of the
> unhealthful stuff associated with it (fats, etc.) and having far more of
> the healthful stuff (vitamins, enzymes, anti-oxidants, etc.).
>
> But "raw food" as a term has a bad rap - folks think of it as freakish
> at best, cultish at worst. And in part with good reason - many of the
> websites do give that impression.
>
> The reality, however, is that any time you put together a dish with
> fresh produce or nuts or grains, which haven't been cooked, well, you've
> created a raw food dish!
>
> So, what are your favourite recipes for things which incorporate fresh
> produce, fresh grains, etc., which have not been (and do not get)
> cooked? Points for recipes which are *not* salads, juices or smoothies
> (although of course they are welcome too!)
>
> I've actually been so frustrated trying to find decent websites about
> this subject that I finally created my own at
> http://www.AdventuresInRawFood.com - and there are discussion forums
> there! (Remember the old RFC "what we had for dinner" thread? It's up
> on Adventures in Raw Food now!..would love to have y'all post there!:
> http://www.adventuresinrawfood.com/?a=xdforum)
> There is also a place in the forums to post and discuss recipes, in fact!
>
> Anne
>


i see no meat of any kind there. what about sushi and tatars?

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Anne,

You could look over Cafe Gratitude's menu for some ideas.
None of their food is cooked. They do, however, in some cases
warm their ingredients to (I think) 110 degrees F. This allows
for some softening of grains like buckwheat or quinoa.
Some legumes can also be uncooked, such as fresh peas.

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> You could look over Cafe Gratitude's menu for some ideas.
> None of their food is cooked. They do, however, in some cases warm
> their ingredients to (I think) 110 degrees F. This allows for some
> softening of grains like buckwheat or quinoa.
> Some legumes can also be uncooked, such as fresh peas.


Steve, that's a great idea, Thank you! Warming (in the dehydrator) is
one of the ways that one of my favourite (my only, really) book on the
subject treats foods to keep their nutrients but also make them seem
less..er..raw.

Have you been to Cafe Gratitude? We rarely get up to SF, but I've been
curious...

Thanks!

Anne


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On 2006-05-30 10:46:00 -0700, Grizzman > said:

>> I've actually been so frustrated trying to find decent websites about
>> this subject that I finally created my own at
>> http://www.AdventuresInRawFood.com - and there are discussion forums
>> there! (Remember the old RFC "what we had for dinner" thread? It's up
>> on Adventures in Raw Food now!..would love to have y'all post there!:
>> http://www.adventuresinrawfood.com/?a=xdforum)
>> There is also a place in the forums to post and discuss recipes, in fact!
>>
>> Anne
>>

>
> i see no meat of any kind there. what about sushi and tatars?


I'm a vegetarian. :-)


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Anne Mitchell Young wrote:
> We've been incorporating more raw - or should I say "unprocessed" -
> food into our diets in an effort to, well, eat more healthfully.
> Uncooked produce has the dual benefit of not having as much of the
> unhealthful stuff associated with it (fats, etc.) and having far more
> of the healthful stuff (vitamins, enzymes, anti-oxidants, etc.).
>
> But "raw food" as a term has a bad rap - folks think of it as freakish
> at best, cultish at worst. And in part with good reason - many of the
> websites do give that impression.


You got it back asswards... processed gets the bad rap.

> The reality, however, is that any time you put together a dish with
> fresh produce or nuts or grains, which haven't been cooked, well,
> you've created a raw food dish!
>
> So, what are your favourite recipes for things which incorporate fresh
> produce, fresh grains, etc., which have not been (and do not get)
> cooked? Points for recipes which are *not* salads, juices or smoothies
> (although of course they are welcome too!)


I think you took a wicked wrong turn somewhere with the psychotic no
cooking [laziness] alibi and became totally lost in your own self
absorbtion... because when these foods are eaten raw/unprocessed most
of their nutrition passes right through unabsorbed... the most
versatile group of recipes for consuming large quantities of naturally
healthful veggies, seeds, grains, nuts, fruits, twigs, and berries are
*baked goods*, where everything is cooked (cooking is processing) but
little nutrition is lost, and most is easily absorbed.

I got a million of em... but you don't know what good is until you've
eaten a kasha k'nish.

Sheldon

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Anne Mitchell Young wrote on 30 May 2006 in rec.food.cooking

> We've been incorporating more raw - or should I say "unprocessed" -
> food into our diets in an effort to, well, eat more healthfully.
> Uncooked produce has the dual benefit of not having as much of the
> unhealthful stuff associated with it (fats, etc.) and having far more
> of the healthful stuff (vitamins, enzymes, anti-oxidants, etc.).
>
> But "raw food" as a term has a bad rap - folks think of it as freakish
> at best, cultish at worst. And in part with good reason - many of the
> websites do give that impression.
>
> The reality, however, is that any time you put together a dish with
> fresh produce or nuts or grains, which haven't been cooked, well,
> you've created a raw food dish!
>
> So, what are your favourite recipes for things which incorporate fresh
> produce, fresh grains, etc., which have not been (and do not get)
> cooked? Points for recipes which are *not* salads, juices or smoothies
> (although of course they are welcome too!)
>
> I've actually been so frustrated trying to find decent websites about
> this subject that I finally created my own at
> http://www.AdventuresInRawFood.com - and there are discussion forums
> there! (Remember the old RFC "what we had for dinner" thread? It's up
> on Adventures in Raw Food now!..would love to have y'all post there!:
> http://www.adventuresinrawfood.com/?a=xdforum)
> There is also a place in the forums to post and discuss recipes, in

fact!
>
> Anne
>


Since I low carb I use lettuce leaves instead of bread...But now I'm
guessing a roastbeef lettuce wrap wouldn't meet your standards...But a
peanut butter one would.

A Sea food style "Spring rolls" using lettuce instead of rice flour
wrappers with mung beans, sliced almonds, carrot & bell pepper strips
strips. raw spinach plus shrimp/crab/smoked salmon and the whole other 9
yards is fairly tasty. If you make a good dipping sauce. But that again
has 1 cooked item in it...the seafood. (2 if you count the
sauce)...Perhaps replace the seafood with zucchini?

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Anne Mitchell Young <shedevil @ aloss.net> wrote:
: But "raw food" as a term has a bad rap - folks think of it as freakish
: at best, cultish at worst. And in part with good reason - many of the
: websites do give that impression.

: The reality, however, is that any time you put together a dish with
: fresh produce or nuts or grains, which haven't been cooked, well,
: you've created a raw food dish!

The concept of 'raw, unprocessed' food has similar problems of
definition to that of 'making food from scratch', which is being
discussed in another thread.

If I dry apricots in the sun, I've processed them. If I make my
grapes into wine, I've got processed grape juice. If I ferment them
all the way to vinegar, I've processed them even farther. Yogurt
bacteria process my milk, but that's already been lost as a raw
food due to pasteurization. If drying a fruit processes it,
should cooling it in the refrigerator be viewed as processing it too?

Pressing oils from fruit or vegetables is a process that induces
change, even cold pressing. Extracting the juice and discarding
the rest of a fruit/vegetable is very heavy processing, which can
change the nature of the original produce more than light steaming
of the uncut item.

I eat a lot of raw things--seeds and nuts and fruit of all
varieties and many vegetables too, and I usually eat them plain:
a tomato, a handful of cashews, almonds, pistachios when I can
find them, an apple, an orange, a carrot. I eat them because they
taste good, and I don't feel a need for recipes..then again, I'm
always ready to try something different.

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Anne Mitchell Young <shedevil @ aloss.net> replies to my post,

>> You could look over Cafe Gratitude's menu for some ideas.
>> None of their food is cooked. They do, however, in some cases warm
>> their ingredients to (I think) 110 degrees F. This allows for some
>> softening of grains like buckwheat or quinoa.
>> Some legumes can also be uncooked, such as fresh peas.


>Steve, that's a great idea, Thank you! Warming (in the dehydrator) is
>one of the ways that one of my favourite (my only, really) book on the
>subject treats foods to keep their nutrients but also make them seem
>less..er..raw.


>Have you been to Cafe Gratitude? We rarely get up to SF, but I've
>been curious...


No, we haven't been there, but now that there's on in Berkeley
I imagine we won't be able to hold out indefinitely.

Another place I haven't been to that doubtless has a lot
of raw food is Medicine Eat Station. Which reminds me
you might try including agar among your raw food ingredients.
I have had some really good Zen temple style dishes containing
agar. But again, I have no offer of immediate recipes...

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On 2006-05-30 15:20:55 -0700, "Sheldon" > said:

> I got a million of em... but you don't know what good is until you've
> eaten a kasha k'nish.


Oh man, kasha k'nishes are a little bit of heaven in your mouth! Same
for kasha varnishka!

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Anne Mitchell Young wrote:
> On 2006-05-30 10:46:00 -0700, Grizzman > said:
>
>>> I've actually been so frustrated trying to find decent websites about
>>> this subject that I finally created my own at
>>> http://www.AdventuresInRawFood.com - and there are discussion forums
>>> there! (Remember the old RFC "what we had for dinner" thread? It's
>>> up on Adventures in Raw Food now!..would love to have y'all post
>>> there!: http://www.adventuresinrawfood.com/?a=xdforum)
>>> There is also a place in the forums to post and discuss recipes, in
>>> fact!
>>>
>>> Anne
>>>

>>
>> i see no meat of any kind there. what about sushi and tatars?

>
> I'm a vegetarian. :-)


I'm sorry :-)

save a cow, eat a vegetarian

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Anne Mitchell Young wrote:
> We've been incorporating more raw - or should I say "unprocessed" -


I like Sashimi:

http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2044.html

Otherwise I can only think of salads. Like, when is a mixture (1 to
infinity number of items) of raw produce not a salad?

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On 2006-05-31 02:40:14 -0700, Grizzman > said:
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>> I'm a vegetarian. :-)

>
> I'm sorry :-)


I'm not. :-b

> save a cow, eat a vegetarian


Save a marriage..oh..wait..wrong newsgroup. :-b

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Thelma Lubkin wrote:
> Anne Mitchell Young <shedevil @ aloss.net> wrote:
> : But "raw food" as a term has a bad rap - folks think of it as freakish
> : at best, cultish at worst. And in part with good reason - many of the
> : websites do give that impression.
>
> : The reality, however, is that any time you put together a dish with
> : fresh produce or nuts or grains, which haven't been cooked, well,
> : you've created a raw food dish!


Yeah but the freakish/cultish part comes in when one declares that it's
"more healthy" to only eat that kind of dish.

Cooking can definitely change the taste of foods for the better. We
eat lots of raw food at home, mostly salads and fruits. But my
daughter doesn't like tomatoes and I love them. In fact I love to grow
them so all summer we have tons of tomatoes. I've found that if I cut
them in half, place on a cookie sheet, sprinkle with breadcrumbs and
cheese, and bake for about 3 minutes, the taste changes so much that
she will eat them.

Three minutes of cooking hasn't changed the essential nutritional
value. It just made it tastier to one person.

>
> The concept of 'raw, unprocessed' food has similar problems of
> definition to that of 'making food from scratch', which is being
> discussed in another thread.
>
> If I dry apricots in the sun, I've processed them. If I make my
> grapes into wine, I've got processed grape juice. If I ferment them
> all the way to vinegar, I've processed them even farther. Yogurt
> bacteria process my milk, but that's already been lost as a raw
> food due to pasteurization. If drying a fruit processes it,
> should cooling it in the refrigerator be viewed as processing it too?
>
> Pressing oils from fruit or vegetables is a process that induces
> change, even cold pressing. Extracting the juice and discarding
> the rest of a fruit/vegetable is very heavy processing, which can
> change the nature of the original produce more than light steaming
> of the uncut item.
>
> I eat a lot of raw things--seeds and nuts and fruit of all
> varieties and many vegetables too, and I usually eat them plain:
> a tomato, a handful of cashews, almonds, pistachios when I can
> find them, an apple, an orange, a carrot. I eat them because they
> taste good, and I don't feel a need for recipes..then again, I'm
> always ready to try something different.
>


What she said!

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> But my
> daughter doesn't like tomatoes and I love them. In fact I love to grow
> them so all summer we have tons of tomatoes. I've found that if I cut
> them in half, place on a cookie sheet, sprinkle with breadcrumbs and
> cheese, and bake for about 3 minutes, the taste changes so much that
> she will eat them.
>


This is asupperior tomato recipe

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Alan's Tomato Pie

pies, vegetables

2 deep-dish pie crusts (10 inch)
black pepper to taste; see note2
kosher salt to taste
2 1/2-3 lbs 3 pounds medium-sized ripe slicing; tomatoes, see note1
1 large bunch of fresh basil
4 ounces (2 cups) medium-sharp or sharp cheddar; cheese grated
2/3 cup homemade or best-quality mayonnaise
1/2 juice of 1/2 lemon
2-3 tbsp heavy cream

Preheat oven to 350F

Fit one of the crusts to a pie pan. Sprinkle with pepper (well) SEE NOTE2
and prick the pastry all over with a fork.

Place a layer of tomatoes in the pie pan, sprinkle with a little
salt.pepper and add a sparse layer of fresh basil leaves;

repeat for a second, third, and fourth layer.

Top with the grated cheese.

Thin the mayonnaise with the juice of 1/2 lemon and spread it over the
surface. (Over top of the tomatoes).

Quickly add the second pie crust, fit it over the pie and seal the edges
by
pinching them together. Cut several slits in the dough to allow steam to
escape and brush the surface with the heavy cream.

Bake in a 350 degree oven until the pie is hot all the way through and
the
crust is golden, about 25 - 30 minutes.

Let rest for 15 minutes before serving. Cut in wedges and garnish each
slice with a sprig of fresh basil.

NOTE1: Peel and seed the tomatoes, and cut into thickish silces. Allow to
drain on papper towels a while to remove excess water/juice.

NOTE2: Try a thin layer of dejon mustard instead of pepper.



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In article . com>,
sueb > wrote:
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>Mr Libido Incognito wrote:
>Rejecting any cooking, on the basis that leaving food raw
>results in a more nutritious meal, is silly.


It's not 100% silly; an argument can be made that as-yet
undiscovered micronutrients might be destroyed by cooking,
and the beneficial effects of these unknown compounds are
also unknown and may be significant.

Furthermore the evidence mounts that cooking to the point
of a browning reaction, and/or burning, produces potentially
harmful substances.

That being said, I still like cooking food. And I will not
argue for renaming the newsgroup rec.food.food-preparation.

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> Oh man, kasha k'nishes are a little bit of heaven in your mouth! Same
> for kasha varnishka!


*drool*
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