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Glenn[_3_] 18-05-2006 12:44 AM

4yr old Pinto Beans..cooking time?
 
Hi,

I have some Pinto beans that are about 4yrs old. I looked up and saw that
people state that they will keep for 10+ (to indefinitely) if stored in dry
area.

I also found that cooking times will increase for beans over a year old.

Well, I've been cooking these beans for a few hours now and they're still a
bit crunchy.

I have been pretty much simmering on low w/ cover. Should it be higher?

How long should I be looking to cook these suckers?

Thanks for any help :-D




elaine[_1_] 18-05-2006 12:55 AM

4yr old Pinto Beans..cooking time?
 
"Glenn" > wrote in message
...
> Hi,
>
> I have some Pinto beans that are about 4yrs old. I looked up and saw that
> people state that they will keep for 10+ (to indefinitely) if stored in
> dry area.
>
> I also found that cooking times will increase for beans over a year old.
>
> Well, I've been cooking these beans for a few hours now and they're still
> a bit crunchy.
>
> I have been pretty much simmering on low w/ cover. Should it be higher?
>
> How long should I be looking to cook these suckers?
>


Another 3 years or so..

Sorry, couldn't resist

E.



Steve Pope 18-05-2006 01:08 AM

4yr old Pinto Beans..cooking time?
 
What elevation are you at?

If the beans are too old and you're in the high country,
they might not ever cook.

Did you pre-soak them?

Steve

Glenn[_3_] 18-05-2006 01:14 AM

4yr old Pinto Beans..cooking time?
 

"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
...
> What elevation are you at?
>
> If the beans are too old and you're in the high country,
> they might not ever cook.
>
> Did you pre-soak them?
>
> Steve


Yes, presoaked about 6 or so hours (wife took them out and started them this
morning).

We're at 2800ft outside of Kingman Az.

So they're not going to cook then?

Thanks for the help :)



The Herd 18-05-2006 01:21 AM

4yr old Pinto Beans..cooking time?
 
On Thu, 18 May 2006 00:14:12 GMT, "Glenn" >
wrote:

>
>"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
...
>> What elevation are you at?
>>
>> If the beans are too old and you're in the high country,
>> they might not ever cook.
>>
>> Did you pre-soak them?
>>
>> Steve

>
>Yes, presoaked about 6 or so hours (wife took them out and started them this
>morning).
>
>We're at 2800ft outside of Kingman Az.
>
>So they're not going to cook then?
>
>Thanks for the help :)
>

They should have soaked a minimum of 8 hours, even better 24 hours.
So you may end up with bean mush.


OmManiPadmeOmelet[_3_] 18-05-2006 03:10 AM

4yr old Pinto Beans..cooking time?
 
In article >,
"Glenn" > wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have some Pinto beans that are about 4yrs old. I looked up and saw that
> people state that they will keep for 10+ (to indefinitely) if stored in dry
> area.
>
> I also found that cooking times will increase for beans over a year old.
>
> Well, I've been cooking these beans for a few hours now and they're still a
> bit crunchy.
>
> I have been pretty much simmering on low w/ cover. Should it be higher?
>
> How long should I be looking to cook these suckers?
>
> Thanks for any help :-D


Pressure cook for 20 to 30 minutes. ;-)
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

Glenn[_3_] 19-05-2006 09:24 PM

4yr old Pinto Beans..cooking time?
 
Thanks to all the replied...

Sorry for not getting back until now. I have a relatively new PC and
the Outlook program, in the middle of this thread, decided that I
needed to register it for me to continue using it! Ugh!

Anyway, have a new newsreader now and just wanted to update.

I ended up feeding some of the beans to our dogs and composting the
rest. As one person stated that our elavation combined with the age of
the beans could conspire to make the beans bad. After several (at
least 4, possibly 6, can't recall) hours of cooking, the pinto beans
were still crunchy :p

Thanks again for replies

~Glenn

On Wed, 17 May 2006 21:10:24 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> wrote:

>In article >,
> "Glenn" > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have some Pinto beans that are about 4yrs old. I looked up and saw that
>> people state that they will keep for 10+ (to indefinitely) if stored in dry
>> area.
>>
>> I also found that cooking times will increase for beans over a year old.
>>
>> Well, I've been cooking these beans for a few hours now and they're still a
>> bit crunchy.
>>
>> I have been pretty much simmering on low w/ cover. Should it be higher?
>>
>> How long should I be looking to cook these suckers?
>>
>> Thanks for any help :-D

>
>Pressure cook for 20 to 30 minutes. ;-)


The Herd 19-05-2006 09:32 PM

4yr old Pinto Beans..cooking time?
 
On Fri, 19 May 2006 20:24:11 GMT, Glenn >
wrote:
snipped
>"I ended up feeding some of the beans to our dogs"


Boy, that little foxpaw is going to come back and surprise you when
you least expect it. Don't blame it on the dog now :)


D.Currie[_1_] 20-05-2006 07:21 AM

4yr old Pinto Beans..cooking time?
 

"Glenn" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks to all the replied...
>
> Sorry for not getting back until now. I have a relatively new PC and
> the Outlook program, in the middle of this thread, decided that I
> needed to register it for me to continue using it! Ugh!
>
> Anyway, have a new newsreader now and just wanted to update.
>
> I ended up feeding some of the beans to our dogs and composting the
> rest. As one person stated that our elavation combined with the age of
> the beans could conspire to make the beans bad. After several (at
> least 4, possibly 6, can't recall) hours of cooking, the pinto beans
> were still crunchy :p
>
> Thanks again for replies
>


Dried beans are one of the main reasons I bought a pressure cooker. I'm at a
higher elevation than you are, so it's even longer cooking here, and there's
a limit to how long I want to have a pot on the stove. And with the dry air
and elevation out to get me, I have to worry about the pot boiling dry, too.
With the pressure cooker, I can actually serve the beans the same day I
start cooking them. :-)

Donna




Glenn[_3_] 25-05-2006 11:01 PM

4yr old Pinto Beans..cooking time?
 
Pressure cooker, ok, gotcha!

Thanks again for the advice :)

On Sat, 20 May 2006 00:21:13 -0600, "D.Currie"
> wrote:

>
>"Glenn" > wrote in message
.. .
>> Thanks to all the replied...
>>
>> Sorry for not getting back until now. I have a relatively new PC and
>> the Outlook program, in the middle of this thread, decided that I
>> needed to register it for me to continue using it! Ugh!
>>
>> Anyway, have a new newsreader now and just wanted to update.
>>
>> I ended up feeding some of the beans to our dogs and composting the
>> rest. As one person stated that our elavation combined with the age of
>> the beans could conspire to make the beans bad. After several (at
>> least 4, possibly 6, can't recall) hours of cooking, the pinto beans
>> were still crunchy :p
>>
>> Thanks again for replies
>>

>
>Dried beans are one of the main reasons I bought a pressure cooker. I'm at a
>higher elevation than you are, so it's even longer cooking here, and there's
>a limit to how long I want to have a pot on the stove. And with the dry air
>and elevation out to get me, I have to worry about the pot boiling dry, too.
>With the pressure cooker, I can actually serve the beans the same day I
>start cooking them. :-)
>
>Donna
>
>


Food Snob 26-05-2006 05:41 AM

4yr old Pinto Beans..cooking time?
 

The Herd wrote:
> On Thu, 18 May 2006 00:14:12 GMT, "Glenn" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> What elevation are you at?
> >>
> >> If the beans are too old and you're in the high country,
> >> they might not ever cook.
> >>
> >> Did you pre-soak them?
> >>
> >> Steve

> >
> >Yes, presoaked about 6 or so hours (wife took them out and started them this
> >morning).
> >
> >We're at 2800ft outside of Kingman Az.
> >
> >So they're not going to cook then?
> >
> >Thanks for the help :)
> >

> They should have soaked a minimum of 8 hours, even better 24 hours.
> So you may end up with bean mush.


But then you can take the mush and fry it in lard or extra light olive
oil, and it'll turn out lovely. I love pintos.

--Bryan


Sheldon 26-05-2006 02:40 PM

4yr old Pinto Beans..cooking time?
 

Glenn wrote:
>
> I have some Pinto beans that are about 4yrs old. I looked up and saw that
> people state that they will keep for 10+ (to indefinitely) if stored in dry
> area.
>
> I also found that cooking times will increase for beans over a year old.
>
> Well, I've been cooking these beans for a few hours now and they're still a
> bit crunchy.
>
> I have been pretty much simmering on low w/ cover. Should it be higher?
>
> How long should I be looking to cook these suckers?


Simmering in what?

Sheldon


Glenn[_3_] 26-05-2006 09:35 PM

4yr old Pinto Beans..cooking time?
 
On 26 May 2006 06:40:24 -0700, "Sheldon" > wrote:

>
>Glenn wrote:
>>
>> I have some Pinto beans that are about 4yrs old. I looked up and saw that
>> people state that they will keep for 10+ (to indefinitely) if stored in dry
>> area.
>>
>> I also found that cooking times will increase for beans over a year old.
>>
>> Well, I've been cooking these beans for a few hours now and they're still a
>> bit crunchy.
>>
>> I have been pretty much simmering on low w/ cover. Should it be higher?
>>
>> How long should I be looking to cook these suckers?

>
>Simmering in what?
>
>Sheldon


water

Sheldon 26-05-2006 09:45 PM

4yr old Pinto Beans..cooking time?
 

Glenn wrote:
> On 26 May 2006 06:40:24 -0700, "Sheldon" > wrote:
>
> >
> >Glenn wrote:
> >>
> >> I have some Pinto beans that are about 4yrs old. I looked up and saw that
> >> people state that they will keep for 10+ (to indefinitely) if stored in dry
> >> area.
> >>
> >> I also found that cooking times will increase for beans over a year old.
> >>
> >> Well, I've been cooking these beans for a few hours now and they're still a
> >> bit crunchy.
> >>
> >> I have been pretty much simmering on low w/ cover. Should it be higher?
> >>
> >> How long should I be looking to cook these suckers?

> >
> >Simmering in what?
> >
> >Sheldon

>
> water


Hmm, for someone wordy as you that's an awfully clipped response, lower
case and all.... most normal folks would have seasoned the water, at
least added some garlic, onion, s n' p., let alone a ham hock, etc....
plain H2O, hmm, hmm, hmm.

Sheldon


zxcvbob 26-05-2006 09:52 PM

4yr old Pinto Beans..cooking time?
 
Sheldon wrote:
> Glenn wrote:
>> On 26 May 2006 06:40:24 -0700, "Sheldon" > wrote:
>>
>>> Glenn wrote:
>>>> I have some Pinto beans that are about 4yrs old. I looked up and saw that
>>>> people state that they will keep for 10+ (to indefinitely) if stored in dry
>>>> area.
>>>>
>>>> I also found that cooking times will increase for beans over a year old.
>>>>
>>>> Well, I've been cooking these beans for a few hours now and they're still a
>>>> bit crunchy.
>>>>
>>>> I have been pretty much simmering on low w/ cover. Should it be higher?
>>>>
>>>> How long should I be looking to cook these suckers?
>>> Simmering in what?
>>>
>>> Sheldon

>> water

>
> Hmm, for someone wordy as you that's an awfully clipped response, lower
> case and all.... most normal folks would have seasoned the water, at
> least added some garlic, onion, s n' p., let alone a ham hock, etc....
> plain H2O, hmm, hmm, hmm.
>
> Sheldon
>



minimalist.

Bob

Sheldon 26-05-2006 09:58 PM

4yr old Pinto Beans..cooking time?
 

zxcvbob wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> > Glenn wrote:
> >> "Sheldon" wrote:
> >>> Glenn wrote:
> >>>> I have some Pinto beans that are about 4yrs old. I looked up and saw that
> >>>> people state that they will keep for 10+ (to indefinitely) if stored in dry
> >>>> area.
> >>>>
> >>>> I also found that cooking times will increase for beans over a year old.
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, I've been cooking these beans for a few hours now and they're still a
> >>>> bit crunchy.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have been pretty much simmering on low w/ cover. Should it be higher?
> >>>>
> >>>> How long should I be looking to cook these suckers?
> >>> Simmering in what?
> >>>
> >> water

> >
> > Hmm, for someone wordy as you that's an awfully clipped response, lower
> > case and all.... most normal folks would have seasoned the water, at
> > least added some garlic, onion, s n' p., let alone a ham hock, etc....
> > plain H2O, hmm, hmm, hmm.

>
> minimalist


fabulist


Wayne Boatwright[_1_] 27-05-2006 02:08 AM

4yr old Pinto Beans..cooking time?
 
On Wed 17 May 2006 04:44:25p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Glenn?

> Hi,
>
> I have some Pinto beans that are about 4yrs old. I looked up and saw
> that people state that they will keep for 10+ (to indefinitely) if
> stored in dry area.
>
> I also found that cooking times will increase for beans over a year old.
>
> Well, I've been cooking these beans for a few hours now and they're
> still a bit crunchy.
>
> I have been pretty much simmering on low w/ cover. Should it be higher?
>
> How long should I be looking to cook these suckers?
>
> Thanks for any help :-D


While it's true that dried beans, properly stored, will keep for years,
cooking them does not always produce the most desirable result and the
texture may suffer.

Did you soak them? If so, in what and for how long? I would think not
less than 12-18 hours.

Cooking at a low simmer is probably best. Boiling them often results in
the beans falling apart, even if not tender. I would recommend plain water
with no additives for cooking.

If they were properly soaked, it may just be a matter of time and they may
vary considerably. There's no pat answer.

--
Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬
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