Bullshit.

What's really killing Social Security is the loss of jobs and the
decrease in the average wage and the oversized increase in payouts due
to the post-WW2 baby boom.

The GOP's policies of plutocracy are decreasing the inputs at exactly
the time we need the outputs increased.

Anyone pointing a finger at anything else is just an apologist for the
party of treason and poverty.

--Blair

arminius wrote:
>
> The political creeps infesting Washington from the White? House through
> Congress, are only interested in the quick fix and to hell with America's
> future.
>
> Hank

They're not even interested in the quick fix. They care only about all
the money they get from the corporations in exchange for letting
millions of low paid union-busting illegals invade america and drive
down wages.

Blair P. Houghton > wrote

> What's really killing Social Security is the loss of jobs

Just another pathetic little pig ignorant fantasy with
a 5% unemployment rate and hordes of illegals.

> and the decrease in the average wage

Just another pathetic little pig ignorant fantasy.

> and the oversized increase in payouts due to the post-WW2 baby boom.

Just another pathetic little pig ignorant fantasy.

> The GOP's policies of plutocracy

Just another pathetic little pig ignorant fantasy.

You clearly wouldnt what a real plutocracy was if one bit you on your lard arse.

> are decreasing the inputs at exactly
> the time we need the outputs increased.

Just another pathetic little pig ignorant fantasy.

> Anyone pointing a finger at anything else is just
> an apologist for the party of treason and poverty.

Just another pathetic little pig ignorant rabid fantasy.

"Just another American" > wrote in message
...
> http://www.americanchronicle.com/art...articleID=6641
>
> Inside Every 'Guest Worker' Plan: A Ticking Social Security Time Bomb.
>
> Barbara Anderson March 8, 2006
>
> 'Yessirree, ladies and gents, step right up. Get yer 'guest worker'
> elixir with secret ingredient that will fix what ails ya. Goes down
> smooth and easy and costs just pennies a day." So say the snake oil
> senators trying to sell this poison.
>
> Every "guest worker" program (read amnesty) plan being advanced in the
> Senate has in it provisions for acceptance into the Social Security
> program the millions of illegal aliens who have managed to sneak into
> the country and can "prove" with dubious documents that they have
> worked here for some length of time. Nobody knows just how many of
> these workers there are, as nobody is allowed to ask a person's
> citizenship status when applying for welfare benefits, for instance.
>
> The "don't ask, don't tell" policy is applied by most government
> agencies. The Bear Stearns estimate is 25+ million. This is just for
> the workers and some family here, but there are many more waiting in
> Mexico for the word to come. These other family members are the
> recipients of the $20 BILLION dollars sent home, and out of our
> economy, to Mexico from the U.S. last year. If they choose not to
> come, they may still be eligible for benefits from the primary
> worker's "right" to Social Security benefits. Thus, they may be
> eligible for Social Security benefits even if they have never lived in
> the U.S.
>
> SSA is an Executive branch agency whose director is appointed by the
> President. Director Joann Barnhardt is so eager to give U.S. Social
> Security benefits to Mexicans that she signed the U.S.-Mexico
> Totalization Agreement in July 2004 and built an SSA building in
> Mexico: sort of a branch office, paid for by American taxpayers.
> Barnhardt is among our many civil servants who can't keep accurate
> records. She told the Senate that her agency isn't able to prevent
> fraudulent wage transfers for years prior to 2004. Her solution: give
> away benefits paid for by citizens of this country to people who don't
> deserve them.
>
> We are not entirely in the dark as to how this amnesty would affect
> Social Security. In 1986 we were sold the same elixir. We don't hear
> the leading salesmen, Ted Kennedy, Orrin Hatch or John McCain, who are
> touting the 2006 rerun of amnesty, bragging about their 1986 votes. In
> 1986 we were promised that amnesty would be given to 300,000 illegal
> aliens, and that would be the final, final amnesty. The reality was
> that the final count was nearly 3 million. Well, we know how things
> just grow in the atmosphere of Washington, D.C. when you take your
> eyes off them. The "one-time" amnesty showed INS and SSA knowingly
> accepted massive numbers of fraudulent rent receipts, earning records
> and birth records. The country is now awash with fake I.D. and other
> documents produced by entrepreneurs who seized on the lax requirements
> of businesses and government for these documents.
>
> When an illegal alien attains legal status, whether by marrying an
> American or by "guest worker" program, that person is issued a genuine
> SSN. It is used to earn future wages and Social Security credits,
> obtain public funded benefits, financial aid for education, and the
> list goes on. That new SSN enables the illegal alien to retroactively
> access wage credit for money in the Earnings Suspense File, even if
> they were using a bogus SSN or "borrowing" a valid SSN assigned to
> someone else! It's the little bomb in each and every "guest worker"
> program.
>
> Even with a speeded up program, one can imagine the literally millions
> of illegal aliens in line applying for a SSN, who will be given first
> priority at SSA offices, bogging down the system for legal American
> workers. Those already in the system can look forward to their
> benefits being handled in a much less efficient way, unless an
> enormous amount of new personnel is brought in to handle the hordes of
> new people being enrolled in the system. Even that remedy will ensure
> chaos because of the vastness of the task.
>
> However, the same people who are saying we don't have the means and
> personnel to track down those who are here illegally, are perfectly
> willing to accept the enormous task of trying to determine...who are
> allowed benefits.
>
> By law, if an illegal alien had bogus pay stubs or W-2s (making up
> numerous names and SSNs) from 1980-2000, and was given amnesty OR
> became legal, we would have to give them "credit" for those 20 years
> of illegal work. Considering the money at stake, both in past Social
> Security payroll deductions and future benefits, can anyone doubt that
> these illegal aliens will do all possible to lay claim to "wage
> credits" and FICA deductions for the SSN they've been fraudulently
> using? Does anyone suspect they might also try to take wage credit
> that doesn't belong to them?
>
> This little bomb is currently in every guest worker plan, no matter
> who is pushing it: McCain, Kennedy, Hatch, Craig, Domenici, Specter or
> any of the other senate panderers. If you see your senator in this
> lineup, you should be especially indignant, since these are the main
> pushers, but there are plenty of others poised to join them, if their
> constituents don't make too much noise. Republicans pander to their
> contributors who love cheap labor, while Democrats are already
> counting the heads of those they think will be voting for them. Oh,
> did I mention that voting rights come along with this little package,
> once they are deemed legal.
>
> How many years have we been hearing that Social Security is going
> broke? Younger people paying into the plan have all but given up any
> hope of ever seeing anything of what they have put into it. Older
> people have had a false sense of security about the safety of their
> benefits, it seems. With 25+ million (including beneficiaries) coming
> onto the rolls of Social Security, who can doubt that all benefits
> will be sharply curtailed.
>
> The Senate is developing its immigration bill right now. There is a
> strong push for "guest worker" (amnesty) provisions to be added to, or
> replace, the commonsense bill passed by the House, which has no Social
> Security provisions in it. Every senator knows the pernicious effects
> such an amnesty will have on the country, mostly on low-wage earners
> and the middle class. It was known in 1986 when it was passed with the
> promise it was a one-time amnesty, but the same mindset that promoted
> and allowed amnesty in 1986 is rampant in the Senate today. Senators
> who will vote for this know what will happen, but are keeping quiet
> about it as they did in 1986. Are your senators among them?
>
> Giving amnesty to several millions of illegal aliens, which
> automatically entitles them to future AND PAST Social Security would
> be like throwing anchors on a sinking ship. This ship is named the
> U.S. Social Security.
>
>
> --
> "There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the
> people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by
> violent and sudden usurpations." -- James Madison

The political creeps infesting Washington from the White? House through
Congress, are only interested in the quick fix and to hell with America's
future.

Hank

http://www.fairus.org/ Federated Americans for Immigration Reform