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Smell of pork? Is it just me???
Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the
store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat and got a refund. I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled. It stinks. Smells sulfury to me. Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder?????? It's in the dutch oven right now with a layer of carrots on the bottom and LOTS of onions, a largish bulb of grated fresh ginger root, an entire head of garlic and a generous sprinkling of lemon pepper. Intent is to braise it for 2 hours and it's been in now for about 1 hour. It smells divine. I'm wondering if I'm just overly sensitive to certain odors???????? No other cuts of pork have done this to me. Pork chops and steaks are good for 48 hours in the 'frige at 40 degrees F. Trotters have never smelled bad, I thaw them just enough so they joints are soft and I can stuff them into the pressure cooker with water and aromatics to make the stock from hell (pics to follow later when I finish shrinking and re-naming the files). Opinions?????? -- Peace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the > store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they > stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored > closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat > and got a refund. > > I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in > the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still > slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled. > > It stinks. Smells sulfury to me. > > Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder?????? It's not uncommon. It can happen with cryovaced pork. It depends on the pack date, so it may you may not encounter it every time. The sulfur odor should dissipate quickly, within a few minutes of opening. Key point. If it doesn't, it's gone bad. -- Reg |
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"Reg" > wrote in message news > OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: > >> Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the >> store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they >> stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored >> closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat >> and got a refund. >> >> I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in >> the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still >> slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled. >> >> It stinks. Smells sulfury to me. >> >> Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder?????? > > It's not uncommon. It can happen with cryovaced pork. It depends > on the pack date, so it may you may not encounter it every time. > > The sulfur odor should dissipate quickly, within a few minutes > of opening. Key point. If it doesn't, it's gone bad. > > -- > Reg > Is there achance that it was the meat of an uncastrated boar? That can really stink! Graham |
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Reg > wrote: > OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: > > > Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the > > store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they > > stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored > > closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat > > and got a refund. > > > > I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in > > the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still > > slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled. > > > > It stinks. Smells sulfury to me. > > > > Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder?????? > > It's not uncommon. It can happen with cryovaced pork. It depends > on the pack date, so it may you may not encounter it every time. > > The sulfur odor should dissipate quickly, within a few minutes > of opening. Key point. If it doesn't, it's gone bad. Yes, it was cryovaced and the smell went away with rinsing... Thanks! :-) -- Peace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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In article <urjVf.181903$B94.99795@pd7tw3no>,
"graham" > wrote: > "Reg" > wrote in message > news > > OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: > > > >> Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the > >> store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they > >> stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored > >> closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat > >> and got a refund. > >> > >> I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in > >> the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still > >> slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled. > >> > >> It stinks. Smells sulfury to me. > >> > >> Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder?????? > > > > It's not uncommon. It can happen with cryovaced pork. It depends > > on the pack date, so it may you may not encounter it every time. > > > > The sulfur odor should dissipate quickly, within a few minutes > > of opening. Key point. If it doesn't, it's gone bad. > > > > -- > > Reg > > > Is there achance that it was the meat of an uncastrated boar? That can > really stink! > Graham > > Commercial pork... Unlikely but thanks anyhoo! It's got a few minutes to go now and the smell permating the house is quite appetising. I also added fresh thyme, dittay and rosemary from the herb garden. -- Peace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the > store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and > they stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is > monitored closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as > rotted meat and got a refund. > > I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it > in the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was > still slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be > spoiled. > > It stinks. Smells sulfury to me. > Perhaps the thermometer calibration is off? Just because it says 38 - 40 degrees doesn't mean it actually is that temperature. Plus the area where the meat was might not be the same temperature as where the thermometer is. But since you state you are cooking it, and it smells ok this is unlikely. I guess you will know after it is consumed I guess. My bet is that it is a chemical or antibiotic added to the meat package to retard spoilage and/or bacterial growth. I purchased a package of Sargento shredded cheese a few months back. In reading the ingredients label on things as I do periodically I noticed the name of some ingredient I have never seen before on cheese or anything else for that matter. In doing a little research I determined that it was an antibiotic used to retard mold or bacterial growth. Apparently it is said to be somewhat commonly used in the agricultural industry - at least based on the internet sources that I found. |
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graham wrote:
> "Reg" > wrote in message > news > >>OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: >> >> >>>Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the >>>store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they >>>stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored >>>closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat >>>and got a refund. >>> >>>I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in >>>the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still >>>slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled. >>> >>>It stinks. Smells sulfury to me. >>> >>>Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder?????? >> >>It's not uncommon. It can happen with cryovaced pork. It depends >>on the pack date, so you may not encounter it every time. >> >>The sulfur odor should dissipate quickly, within a few minutes >>of opening. Key point. If it doesn't, it's gone bad. >> >>-- >>Reg >> > > Is there achance that it was the meat of an uncastrated boar? That can > really stink! The brief sulfur smell is an issue with cryovaced pork, specifically. It shouldn't happen with non-cryovaced. I haven't encountered it with anything other than shoulder. Not loin or tenderloin for instance. So far, anyway. -- Reg |
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> Probably the pig was a male.
> > My butcher only gets female pig meat. I am serious, male meat has that > "****y" smell because of the male hormones. > > Christine Whereas ------ Dee Dee |
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On Sat 25 Mar 2006 04:31:30p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Dee Randall?
>> Probably the pig was a male. >> >> My butcher only gets female pig meat. I am serious, male meat has that >> "****y" smell because of the male hormones. >> >> Christine > > Whereas ------ Fish? -- Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬ _____________________ |
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In article <_LjVf.270$CL6.137@fed1read11>, rrb >
wrote: > OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: > > Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the > > store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and > > they stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is > > monitored closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as > > rotted meat and got a refund. > > > > I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it > > in the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was > > still slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be > > spoiled. > > > > It stinks. Smells sulfury to me. > > > > Perhaps the thermometer calibration is off? Just because it says 38 - 40 > degrees doesn't mean it actually is that temperature. Plus the area > where the meat was might not be the same temperature as where the > thermometer is. But since you state you are cooking it, and it smells ok > this is unlikely. > I guess you will know after it is consumed I guess. It's a commercial refrigerator... The thermo' is front and center, and I scored a good calibrated thermometer from work a couple of weeks ago as they were replacing stuff. :-) That one was checked against a "standard" thermo and was off by 1 degree (cooler) so they tossed it. It compares to the internal according to the calibration. I'm seriously picky about storage temps in the Hobart... I rely on it too much not to be. I also just replaced the compressor in it to the tune of $900.00 2 months ago. <cringe> That's what Visa cards are for. <G> Besides, the darn meat was still half frozen! > > My bet is that it is a chemical or antibiotic added to the meat package > to retard spoilage and/or bacterial growth. I purchased a package of > Sargento shredded cheese a few months back. In reading the ingredients > label on things as I do periodically I noticed the name of some > ingredient I have never seen before on cheese or anything else for that > matter. In doing a little research I determined that it was an > antibiotic used to retard mold or bacterial growth. Apparently it is > said to be > somewhat commonly used in the agricultural industry - at least based on > the internet sources that I found. Interesting idea! There were no "ingredients" listed on the label, but I'll ask the meat packing people at HEB next time I go there. -- Peace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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On Sat 25 Mar 2006 03:03:00p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Reg?
> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: > >> Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the >> store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they >> stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored >> closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat >> and got a refund. >> >> I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in >> the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still >> slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled. >> >> It stinks. Smells sulfury to me. >> >> Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder?????? > > It's not uncommon. It can happen with cryovaced pork. It depends > on the pack date, so it may you may not encounter it every time. I have purchased cryovaced cheese that had a horrible smell and taste that simply should not have been there. I should have taken it back, but it went in the rubbish. > The sulfur odor should dissipate quickly, within a few minutes > of opening. Key point. If it doesn't, it's gone bad. -- Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬ _____________________ |
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>, Old Mother Ashby > wrote: > OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: > > >Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the > >store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they > >stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored > >closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat > >and got a refund. > > > >I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in > >the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still > >slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled. > > > >It stinks. Smells sulfury to me. > > > >Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder?????? > > > >It's in the dutch oven right now with a layer of carrots on the bottom > >and LOTS of onions, a largish bulb of grated fresh ginger root, an > >entire head of garlic and a generous sprinkling of lemon pepper. Intent > >is to braise it for 2 hours and it's been in now for about 1 hour. > > > >It smells divine. > > > >I'm wondering if I'm just overly sensitive to certain odors???????? > > > >No other cuts of pork have done this to me. Pork chops and steaks are > >good for 48 hours in the 'frige at 40 degrees F. Trotters have never > >smelled bad, I thaw them just enough so they joints are soft and I can > >stuff them into the pressure cooker with water and aromatics to make the > >stock from hell (pics to follow later when I finish shrinking and > >re-naming the files). > > > >Opinions?????? > > > > > Probably the pig was a male. > > My butcher only gets female pig meat. I am serious, male meat has that > "****y" smell because of the male hormones. > > Christine All commercial (male) pigs here are castrated so hormones should not be an issue, but thanks for the idea. :-) When I go feral pig hunting one of these days, I'll be sure to shoot only sows. -- Peace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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On 2006-03-25, OmManiPadmeOmelet > wrote:
>> > It stinks. Smells sulfury to me. Ya' gotta quit buying that cheap Ratzass brand. nb |
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In article 9>,
Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat 25 Mar 2006 04:31:30p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Dee Randall? > > >> Probably the pig was a male. > >> > >> My butcher only gets female pig meat. I am serious, male meat has that > >> "****y" smell because of the male hormones. > >> > >> Christine > > > > Whereas ------ > > Fish? <Schlap!!!!!> -- Peace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message ... > In article > >> > >> Probably the pig was a male. >> >> My butcher only gets female pig meat. I am serious, male meat has that >> "****y" smell because of the male hormones. >> >> Christine > > All commercial (male) pigs here are castrated Actually, there is a tendency not to castrate these days as it delays getting the pig to market by a few days and, as you know, time is money. Graham |
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In article >,
Steve Wertz > wrote: > On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:51:32 -0600, OmManiPadmeOmelet > > wrote: > > >Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the > >store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they > >stank when I opened them > > I got a bad batch of cryovac'd pork last week. If the smell > doesn't dissipate on 5-10 minutes, then return it. I rinsed it and started my prep and it went away... > > I ended up using half this pork (didn't taste bad)), and put the > other half in the freezer. The stuff in the freezer was green the > next day. Bright green. Returned that half and get my money > back. Ew. I try to avoid re-freezing meat I have thawed... > > HEB never hassles you about returns or receipt discrepancies. Totally agree! I have yet to have HEB deny me a refund, even when I took them some scallops I had cooked and tasted like chemicals! That's happened twice now. I will no longer EVER purchase scallops at HEB... > I > could go in there and claim the price on the shelf was half what I > was charged and they'd refund the difference. > > -sw -- Peace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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On Sat 25 Mar 2006 05:06:12p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it
OmManiPadmeOmelet? > In article 9>, > Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Sat 25 Mar 2006 04:31:30p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Dee >> Randall? >> >> >> Probably the pig was a male. >> >> >> >> My butcher only gets female pig meat. I am serious, male meat has >> >> that "****y" smell because of the male hormones. >> >> >> >> Christine >> > >> > Whereas ------ >> >> Fish? > > <Schlap!!!!!> LOL! -- Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬ _____________________ |
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:51:32 -0600, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> wrote: >Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulde Bacon has a "smell" just like roast beef, roasted chicken. lamb <yuck>, cinnamon, cooked cabbage and feces. Pork shoulder smells just like pork shoulder. Besides, if you cook anything long enough....it will kill any latent bacteria....if you think it blinked. |
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: > Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the > store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they > stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored > closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat > and got a refund. > > I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in > the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still > slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled. > > It stinks. Smells sulfury to me. > > Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder?????? > > It's in the dutch oven right now with a layer of carrots on the bottom > and LOTS of onions, a largish bulb of grated fresh ginger root, an > entire head of garlic and a generous sprinkling of lemon pepper. Intent > is to braise it for 2 hours and it's been in now for about 1 hour. > > It smells divine. > > I'm wondering if I'm just overly sensitive to certain odors???????? > > No other cuts of pork have done this to me. Pork chops and steaks are > good for 48 hours in the 'frige at 40 degrees F. Trotters have never > smelled bad, I thaw them just enough so they joints are soft and I can > stuff them into the pressure cooker with water and aromatics to make the > stock from hell (pics to follow later when I finish shrinking and > re-naming the files). > > Opinions?????? Are you taking any medications, birth control, steroids? Sheldon |
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > I'm glad I was not alone... This is what I was looking for, > someone with a similar experience! > > I braised it for 2 hours with onion, carrot, garlic, lemon pepper, > rosemary, mexican oregano and dittany. It came out very, very nice and > moderately tender. I probably should have let it go for another hour. > > The flavor and smell are fine now. It was cryovaced. You could be developing Multiple Chemical Sensitivity. This is a psychiatric condition in which people become hypersensitive to smells. Here is a description of a typical case. The author formerly held a very high position in the Church of Scientology. At the time of writing this posting, he had left the church and joined an anti-Scientology group (the Lisa McPherson Trust), however the group is now defunct. ---------------------------------------------------- From: Jesse Prince Subject: TALES FROM THE CULT III Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Date: 2000-08-30 09:00:38 PST Hard to imagine, but not every tale from the cult involves criminal activity. Sometimes it's just plain old bizarre, like this one here. You may have noticed (especially public Scientologist) that the staff of Sea Org organizations have very strong opinions about how one smells. In particular, Sea Org members can't stand the smell of scented products. How odd it is that ALL Sea Org members reject the smell of perfume or cologne and act like you have committed a crime if a person should indulge in such. Odd behavior indeed! All Sea Org members are trained to reject "scents" because Hubbard ordered it so. In the same matter in which he ordered Sea Org members are forbidden to own a television This goes a long way to explain why Sea Org members seem so out of touch with just about any and everything, fashion and trends for sure. It's all to clear to free thinking people why the control of information is important if you want to create a "loyal" goon squad and keep them in the dark. Even someone as stupid and destructive as Adolph Hitler knew that one! Anyway, there is a reason and an exact story of why Sea Org members' are not allowed the simple pleasure of being able to experience smells or perfume or scented products, and I'll tell it to you now. The year was 1984. Hubbard was on an up swing of one of his manic depressive mood swings. Hubbard started out writing something about the use of computers on the whole track ( whole track = existence and civilizations that pre date any earthly recorded time period) and somehow got into a rant about tar-coal perfume. Hubbard discovered that everything he touched had the scent of rose perfume, which was derived from tar-coal. Hubbard said the rose scent permeated all new clothes as the sizing used on new clothes was the same tar coal rose perfume that greatly irritated his nose and skin. Being highly sensitive because of his OTness, Hubbard quickly lost patience for anything that smelled of rose perfume. I guess you could spend a day reading all of the "advices" Hubbard came up with concerning rose perfume. Like the BT (body thetan) story, Hubbard discovered EVERTHING smelled like rose perfume! All of his clothes smelt like it, every piece of paper sent to him from Int Management and RTC smelt like it. The poor man was plagued by cheap rose perfume and when Hubbard was miserable everyone around or connected to him shared the misery. Hubbard was an avid smoker of cigarettes, Kool non filter to be exact and smoked no less than three packs a day. Anyone who smokes or has smoked knows the sense of smell is greatly affected by the fact of smoking. Missions and projects were fired out to find or create a line of soap products that were scentless. Chemist were hired, and a new line of soap products were created. At great expense, a new line of shampoo and conditioner, laundry soap, body lotion, hand soap, industrial cleaning soap....you name it. All the while, the hysteria created by Hubbard for the dreaded rose perfume got worst and worst. Hubbard was close by Golden Era Productions out in Hemet and had a team of 6 people that did nothing but clean a house he lived in a few times a week. This team was also responsible for doing his laundry. Hubbard and his messengers developed new tech for handling his laundry. The procedure was to take a brand new shirt or other new article of clothing and wash it is six separate tubs of water by hand three times. That's 18 separate wash cycles! To rinse, the article was rinsed in six different tubs of clear water three times. The end product was a new shirt that was now thread bare and falling apart. Not to be stopped, there was a special sewer posted that would sew up the ruined shirt. The shirt would be dried outside on a clothes line, put in a plastic bag and sent on to Hubbard. Hubbard had a fit again as he said he could still smell the rose perfume. He figured the smell was coming from the plastic bags his thread bare clothes were being sent to him in. Lower conditions were assigned to everyone connected with the project as poor little Hubbard had no clothes to wear! During this same time period, Hubbard had ordered Scientology celebs to create a music score for his books, the Mission Earth series. I'm sure some here have had the unfortunate experience of hearing this load of crap. Very similar to the Battlefield Earth movie, crap. Anyway, it was time to mix the album down and the same producer/engineer who mixed Michel Jackson's Thriller album was employed at great expense to try and do something with the terminally ill music score project. The name of this person is Bruce Swadean (sp?). Bruce came with his wife as I guess he was afraid to be alone in Scientology's top management facilities. After two days in the studio, a staff member was told to handle Bruce's wife because she was stinking up Hubbard's studio with her nasty perfume. Of course Davey is the one who ordered this to be done. A girl named Mary, got the task and she pulled Bruce's wife aside while Bruce was in the studio trying to raise the unborn dead and told her she would have to handle herself as she was stinking up Hubbard's nice music studio with her smelly perfume. To say the least, the woman was horrified by the shear rudeness of what had just happened and ran into the studio and told her husband about it. Without missing a beat, Bruce stood up and told Rick Cruzen, Charlie Rush, Peter Slesh (sp?) just how wacky he really thought they all were and left the building never to be seen or heard from again. No matter how much Davey had people beg Bruce, he would not come back to the Golden Era Production concentration camp. Lower conditions for all concerned again! See how the misery is spread! Now every piece of paper sent to Hubbard from Int Management and RTC had the dreaded rose perfume smell and lower conditions were flying around in CMO Int. Now the only way to send something to Hubbard was through Marc Yeager who was the Commanding Officer of CMO Int until he messed it up too. Hubbard decided Marc Yeager was full of overts as his perception had to be way down if he was not able to smell the rose perfume! Everyone thought Marc had a good nose because between Davey, Marc and me, Marc was the only one who did not smoke cigarettes, wrong again. Marc is now writing up his overts and withholds and doing conditions for sending up the dreaded rose perfume smell to Hubbard. This horrified the hell out of me because I knew my ticket was next. Sure enough Davey and Vickie tell me it's my turn to go to the ovens and neither one had any advice as to what I should do. Both had already been smelling everything that was sent up to Hubbard and they missed it too. Davey smoked at least 2 packs of Camel non filter cigarettes and I smoked about a pack and a half. What was I suppose to smell? The question going through my mind was what had I done to get put in this horrible position? How much pain and humiliation would I have to suffer before it was over for me and just how over for me would it be? Every bit of perfume had been taken from all the staff and destroyed. Half of the newly created line of scentless products were found to be defective and further test were being done to find the rest defective. I remember sitting in my office with boxes of dispatches and laundry ready to be sent to Hubbard, all I had to do was give it the old smell test and all would be fine. When you are alone there is no one to pretend for. I opened the boxes, looked inside and put the lids back on, no reason to smell. I sat there for what I thought would seem a reasonable amount of time for a person to smell this crap. During this interlude, I was wondering if I had recently done anything that would make Hubbard like me and thus spare me. A few things came to mind (and I'll tell these later) but to tell the truth, I didn't feel very confident for keeping my head. Anyway the stuff went up and came back. Hubbard was pleased and said the smell was greatly reduced, though not fully handled. Hubbard discovered the dreaded rose smell was coming from the ink in the pens people had used to sign off that they had checked for smells and found none! I can't tell you how relieved we all were, me especially. After a few weeks Hubbard forgot about the dreaded rose perfume smell and found other things to rant about. Hubbard had an amazing ability to write down EVERYTHING and soon a new commandment was issued about smells. Hubbard even tied it in with the psychs evil plan to kill us all. This is why and how the whole group of Sea Org and even most Scientology public can't/won't wear scented products. All I can say is thank God Hubbard found out about visteril before he pasted on. Life for the poor Sea Org members and public could have been a lot worst. |
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: > Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the > store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they > stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored > closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat > and got a refund. > > I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in > the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still > slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled. > > It stinks. Smells sulfury to me. > > Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder?????? > > It's in the dutch oven right now with a layer of carrots on the bottom > and LOTS of onions, a largish bulb of grated fresh ginger root, an > entire head of garlic and a generous sprinkling of lemon pepper. Intent > is to braise it for 2 hours and it's been in now for about 1 hour. > > It smells divine. > > I'm wondering if I'm just overly sensitive to certain odors???????? > > No other cuts of pork have done this to me. Pork chops and steaks are > good for 48 hours in the 'frige at 40 degrees F. Trotters have never > smelled bad, I thaw them just enough so they joints are soft and I can > stuff them into the pressure cooker with water and aromatics to make the > stock from hell (pics to follow later when I finish shrinking and > re-naming the files). > > Opinions?????? Most every Puerto Rican pernil recipe says to douche the pork shoulder with vinegar. I do the same with fresh ham... fresh pork skin/rind does get a scuzzy aroma. Sheldon |
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message ... > Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the > store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they > stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored > closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat > and got a refund. > > I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in > the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still > slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled. > > It stinks. Smells sulfury to me. > > Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder?????? > > It's in the dutch oven right now with a layer of carrots on the bottom > and LOTS of onions, a largish bulb of grated fresh ginger root, an > entire head of garlic and a generous sprinkling of lemon pepper. Intent > is to braise it for 2 hours and it's been in now for about 1 hour. > > It smells divine. > > I'm wondering if I'm just overly sensitive to certain odors???????? > > No other cuts of pork have done this to me. Pork chops and steaks are > good for 48 hours in the 'frige at 40 degrees F. Trotters have never > smelled bad, I thaw them just enough so they joints are soft and I can > stuff them into the pressure cooker with water and aromatics to make the > stock from hell (pics to follow later when I finish shrinking and > re-naming the files). > > Opinions?????? Can't remember the last time I bought cryovac'd pork, but some of the bagged salads have a weird odor when I first open them. Might be the same sort of thing. And frankly, sometimes I my sense of smell and/or taste is overly sensitive. Usually after a migraine episode. Sometimes it's a good thing because I sense subtle flavors that I might otherwise miss. But it's downright annoying when I start noting off-tastes that no one else notices. Donna |
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In article >,
Ward Abbott > wrote: > On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:51:32 -0600, OmManiPadmeOmelet > > wrote: > > >Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulde > > Bacon has a "smell" just like roast beef, roasted chicken. lamb > <yuck>, cinnamon, cooked cabbage and feces. > > Pork shoulder smells just like pork shoulder. Besides, if you cook > anything long enough....it will kill any latent bacteria....if you > think it blinked. > > Smelled fine during cooking... and the flavor is fine. I'm not sure what the deal was but seems the consensus is that cryovacced pork tends to do that. Odd. -- Peace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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In article >,
Steve Wertz > wrote: > On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:36:54 -0600, OmManiPadmeOmelet > > wrote: > > >> I ended up using half this pork (didn't taste bad)), and put the > >> other half in the freezer. The stuff in the freezer was green the > >> next day. Bright green. Returned that half and get my money > >> back. > > > >Ew. > > > >I try to avoid re-freezing meat I have thawed... > > It was never frozen. > > Even the very conservative USDA site says it's okay to thaw and > refreeze meat. That's one of those things your mother taught you > that just simply isn't something to worry about. I don't worry about it for health reasons, I've found that when I do it, it tends to mess up the texture of the food in question. That's just based on personal experience. > > >Totally agree! I have yet to have HEB deny me a refund, even when I took > >them some scallops I had cooked and tasted like chemicals! That's > >happened twice now. I will no longer EVER purchase scallops at HEB... > > Most scallops are treated with sodium or potassium > tripolyphosphate to make them soak up more water so they can > charge more. The store you got them at isn't the problem, that's > the just nature of cheap scallops. Look for "dry", untreated > scallops. Indeed. I must just be sensitive to the taste of that crap? It makes the scallops taste bitter as hell! That's a very stupid practice as it ruins them! > > -sw The best scallops I've had were on the half-shell from Central Market, and had roe attached. -- Peace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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In article .com>,
"Sheldon" > wrote: > OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: > > Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the > > store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they > > stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored > > closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat > > and got a refund. > > > > I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in > > the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still > > slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled. > > > > It stinks. Smells sulfury to me. > > > > Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder?????? > > > > It's in the dutch oven right now with a layer of carrots on the bottom > > and LOTS of onions, a largish bulb of grated fresh ginger root, an > > entire head of garlic and a generous sprinkling of lemon pepper. Intent > > is to braise it for 2 hours and it's been in now for about 1 hour. > > > > It smells divine. > > > > I'm wondering if I'm just overly sensitive to certain odors???????? > > > > No other cuts of pork have done this to me. Pork chops and steaks are > > good for 48 hours in the 'frige at 40 degrees F. Trotters have never > > smelled bad, I thaw them just enough so they joints are soft and I can > > stuff them into the pressure cooker with water and aromatics to make the > > stock from hell (pics to follow later when I finish shrinking and > > re-naming the files). > > > > Opinions?????? > > Are you taking any medications, birth control, steroids? > > Sheldon > Thyrolar, Metformin and Adderall. -- Peace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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In article >,
Mark Thorson > wrote: > You could be developing Multiple Chemical > Sensitivity. This is a psychiatric condition > in which people become hypersensitive to smells. > > Here is a description of a typical case. > The author formerly held a very high position in the > Church of Scientology. At the time of writing this > posting, he had left the church and joined an > anti-Scientology group (the Lisa McPherson Trust), > however the group is now defunct. <snipped tale of Hubbard> Interesting... :-) I do tend to smell stuff that my father does not, but my friend Lynn' usually agrees with me. There are some perfumes I cannot stand ("poison" being one of the more notable ones that smells like "raid" insect spray to me!) but even tho' some stuff smells strong, it does not bother me... I love the smell of roses. -- Peace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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In article .com>,
"Sheldon" > wrote: > Most every Puerto Rican pernil recipe says to douche the pork shoulder > with vinegar. I do the same with fresh ham... fresh pork skin/rind > does get a scuzzy aroma. > > Sheldon That's not a bad idea. :-) My mom taught me to rinse off questionable meat with a vinegar wash. I just rinsed this one off well with hot water and that got rid of the majority of the sulpher odor. Since it was still partially frozen, I felt that there was no way it could have gone bad. -- Peace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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In article >,
"D.Currie" > wrote: > Can't remember the last time I bought cryovac'd pork, but some of the bagged > salads have a weird odor when I first open them. Might be the same sort of > thing. > > And frankly, sometimes I my sense of smell and/or taste is overly sensitive. > Usually after a migraine episode. Sometimes it's a good thing because I > sense subtle flavors that I might otherwise miss. But it's downright > annoying when I start noting off-tastes that no one else notices. > > Donna I can relate to that. :-) Thanks! -- Peace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the > store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they > stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored > closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat > and got a refund. > > I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in > the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still > slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled. > > It stinks. Smells sulfury to me. > > Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder?????? Its "old" meat. You may want to investigate if there is a market that sells fresher pork in your area. We buy fresh pork from a local Italian market that cuts the meat on site and does good volume. There is never that urine/ammonia/rotted smell when you cook pork bought from them. > > It's in the dutch oven right now with a layer of carrots on the bottom > and LOTS of onions, a largish bulb of grated fresh ginger root, an > entire head of garlic and a generous sprinkling of lemon pepper. Intent > is to braise it for 2 hours and it's been in now for about 1 hour. > > It smells divine. > > I'm wondering if I'm just overly sensitive to certain odors???????? > > No other cuts of pork have done this to me. Pork chops and steaks are > good for 48 hours in the 'frige at 40 degrees F. Trotters have never > smelled bad, I thaw them just enough so they joints are soft and I can > stuff them into the pressure cooker with water and aromatics to make the > stock from hell (pics to follow later when I finish shrinking and > re-naming the files). > > Opinions?????? |
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In article >,
George > wrote: > Its "old" meat. You may want to investigate if there is a market that > sells fresher pork in your area. > > We buy fresh pork from a local Italian market that cuts the meat on site > and does good volume. There is never that urine/ammonia/rotted smell > when you cook pork bought from them. Granted, as much as people seem to want to boycott Wal-mart, I seem to have better luck with pork from them vs. pork from HEB. HEB's produce tho' is generally superior. -- Peace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article >, > George > wrote: > > >>Its "old" meat. You may want to investigate if there is a market that >>sells fresher pork in your area. >> >>We buy fresh pork from a local Italian market that cuts the meat on site >>and does good volume. There is never that urine/ammonia/rotted smell >>when you cook pork bought from them. > > > Granted, as much as people seem to want to boycott Wal-mart, I seem to > have better luck with pork from them vs. pork from HEB. > We don't buy Walmart meat simply because of the added preservatives and water which are added to allow it to be displayed for a long, long time. > HEB's produce tho' is generally superior. |
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