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Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the
store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they
stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored
closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat
and got a refund.

I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in
the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still
slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled.

It stinks. Smells sulfury to me.

Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder??????

It's in the dutch oven right now with a layer of carrots on the bottom
and LOTS of onions, a largish bulb of grated fresh ginger root, an
entire head of garlic and a generous sprinkling of lemon pepper. Intent
is to braise it for 2 hours and it's been in now for about 1 hour.

It smells divine.

I'm wondering if I'm just overly sensitive to certain odors????????

No other cuts of pork have done this to me. Pork chops and steaks are
good for 48 hours in the 'frige at 40 degrees F. Trotters have never
smelled bad, I thaw them just enough so they joints are soft and I can
stuff them into the pressure cooker with water and aromatics to make the
stock from hell (pics to follow later when I finish shrinking and
re-naming the files).

Opinions??????
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

> Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the
> store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they
> stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored
> closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat
> and got a refund.
>
> I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in
> the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still
> slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled.
>
> It stinks. Smells sulfury to me.
>
> Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder??????


It's not uncommon. It can happen with cryovaced pork. It depends
on the pack date, so it may you may not encounter it every time.

The sulfur odor should dissipate quickly, within a few minutes
of opening. Key point. If it doesn't, it's gone bad.

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> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
>> Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the
>> store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they
>> stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored
>> closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat
>> and got a refund.
>>
>> I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in
>> the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still
>> slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled.
>>
>> It stinks. Smells sulfury to me.
>>
>> Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder??????

>
> It's not uncommon. It can happen with cryovaced pork. It depends
> on the pack date, so it may you may not encounter it every time.
>
> The sulfur odor should dissipate quickly, within a few minutes
> of opening. Key point. If it doesn't, it's gone bad.
>
> --
> Reg
>

Is there achance that it was the meat of an uncastrated boar? That can
really stink!
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Reg > wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
> > Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the
> > store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they
> > stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored
> > closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat
> > and got a refund.
> >
> > I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in
> > the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still
> > slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled.
> >
> > It stinks. Smells sulfury to me.
> >
> > Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder??????

>
> It's not uncommon. It can happen with cryovaced pork. It depends
> on the pack date, so it may you may not encounter it every time.
>
> The sulfur odor should dissipate quickly, within a few minutes
> of opening. Key point. If it doesn't, it's gone bad.


Yes, it was cryovaced and the smell went away with rinsing...

Thanks! :-)
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"graham" > wrote:

> "Reg" > wrote in message
> news
> > OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> >
> >> Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the
> >> store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they
> >> stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored
> >> closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat
> >> and got a refund.
> >>
> >> I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in
> >> the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still
> >> slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled.
> >>
> >> It stinks. Smells sulfury to me.
> >>
> >> Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder??????

> >
> > It's not uncommon. It can happen with cryovaced pork. It depends
> > on the pack date, so it may you may not encounter it every time.
> >
> > The sulfur odor should dissipate quickly, within a few minutes
> > of opening. Key point. If it doesn't, it's gone bad.
> >
> > --
> > Reg
> >

> Is there achance that it was the meat of an uncastrated boar? That can
> really stink!
> Graham
>
>


Commercial pork... Unlikely but thanks anyhoo!

It's got a few minutes to go now and the smell permating the house is
quite appetising. I also added fresh thyme, dittay and rosemary from
the herb garden.
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the
> store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and
> they stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is
> monitored closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as
> rotted meat and got a refund.
>
> I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it
> in the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was
> still slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be
> spoiled.
>
> It stinks. Smells sulfury to me.
>


Perhaps the thermometer calibration is off? Just because it says 38 - 40
degrees doesn't mean it actually is that temperature. Plus the area
where the meat was might not be the same temperature as where the
thermometer is. But since you state you are cooking it, and it smells ok
this is unlikely.
I guess you will know after it is consumed I guess.

My bet is that it is a chemical or antibiotic added to the meat package
to retard spoilage and/or bacterial growth. I purchased a package of
Sargento shredded cheese a few months back. In reading the ingredients
label on things as I do periodically I noticed the name of some
ingredient I have never seen before on cheese or anything else for that
matter. In doing a little research I determined that it was an
antibiotic used to retard mold or bacterial growth. Apparently it is
said to be
somewhat commonly used in the agricultural industry - at least based on
the internet sources that I found.
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graham wrote:

> "Reg" > wrote in message
> news >
>>OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the
>>>store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they
>>>stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored
>>>closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat
>>>and got a refund.
>>>
>>>I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in
>>>the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still
>>>slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled.
>>>
>>>It stinks. Smells sulfury to me.
>>>
>>>Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder??????

>>
>>It's not uncommon. It can happen with cryovaced pork. It depends
>>on the pack date, so you may not encounter it every time.
>>
>>The sulfur odor should dissipate quickly, within a few minutes
>>of opening. Key point. If it doesn't, it's gone bad.
>>
>>--
>>Reg
>>

>
> Is there achance that it was the meat of an uncastrated boar? That can
> really stink!



The brief sulfur smell is an issue with cryovaced pork, specifically.
It shouldn't happen with non-cryovaced. I haven't encountered
it with anything other than shoulder. Not loin or tenderloin
for instance. So far, anyway.

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> Probably the pig was a male.
>
> My butcher only gets female pig meat. I am serious, male meat has that
> "****y" smell because of the male hormones.
>
> Christine


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On Sat 25 Mar 2006 04:31:30p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Dee Randall?

>> Probably the pig was a male.
>>
>> My butcher only gets female pig meat. I am serious, male meat has that
>> "****y" smell because of the male hormones.
>>
>> Christine

>
> Whereas ------


Fish?

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In article <_LjVf.270$CL6.137@fed1read11>, rrb >
wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the
> > store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and
> > they stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is
> > monitored closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as
> > rotted meat and got a refund.
> >
> > I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it
> > in the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was
> > still slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be
> > spoiled.
> >
> > It stinks. Smells sulfury to me.
> >

>
> Perhaps the thermometer calibration is off? Just because it says 38 - 40
> degrees doesn't mean it actually is that temperature. Plus the area
> where the meat was might not be the same temperature as where the
> thermometer is. But since you state you are cooking it, and it smells ok
> this is unlikely.
> I guess you will know after it is consumed I guess.


It's a commercial refrigerator... The thermo' is front and center, and I
scored a good calibrated thermometer from work a couple of weeks ago as
they were replacing stuff. :-) That one was checked against a "standard"
thermo and was off by 1 degree (cooler) so they tossed it.

It compares to the internal according to the calibration.

I'm seriously picky about storage temps in the Hobart... I rely on it
too much not to be. I also just replaced the compressor in it to the
tune of $900.00 2 months ago. <cringe> That's what Visa cards are for.
<G>

Besides, the darn meat was still half frozen!

>
> My bet is that it is a chemical or antibiotic added to the meat package
> to retard spoilage and/or bacterial growth. I purchased a package of
> Sargento shredded cheese a few months back. In reading the ingredients
> label on things as I do periodically I noticed the name of some
> ingredient I have never seen before on cheese or anything else for that
> matter. In doing a little research I determined that it was an
> antibiotic used to retard mold or bacterial growth. Apparently it is
> said to be
> somewhat commonly used in the agricultural industry - at least based on
> the internet sources that I found.


Interesting idea!
There were no "ingredients" listed on the label, but I'll ask the meat
packing people at HEB next time I go there.
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On Sat 25 Mar 2006 03:03:00p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Reg?

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
>> Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the
>> store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they
>> stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored
>> closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat
>> and got a refund.
>>
>> I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in
>> the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still
>> slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled.
>>
>> It stinks. Smells sulfury to me.
>>
>> Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder??????

>
> It's not uncommon. It can happen with cryovaced pork. It depends
> on the pack date, so it may you may not encounter it every time.


I have purchased cryovaced cheese that had a horrible smell and taste that
simply should not have been there. I should have taken it back, but it
went in the rubbish.

> The sulfur odor should dissipate quickly, within a few minutes
> of opening. Key point. If it doesn't, it's gone bad.





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>,
Old Mother Ashby > wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
> >Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the
> >store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they
> >stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored
> >closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat
> >and got a refund.
> >
> >I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in
> >the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still
> >slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled.
> >
> >It stinks. Smells sulfury to me.
> >
> >Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder??????
> >
> >It's in the dutch oven right now with a layer of carrots on the bottom
> >and LOTS of onions, a largish bulb of grated fresh ginger root, an
> >entire head of garlic and a generous sprinkling of lemon pepper. Intent
> >is to braise it for 2 hours and it's been in now for about 1 hour.
> >
> >It smells divine.
> >
> >I'm wondering if I'm just overly sensitive to certain odors????????
> >
> >No other cuts of pork have done this to me. Pork chops and steaks are
> >good for 48 hours in the 'frige at 40 degrees F. Trotters have never
> >smelled bad, I thaw them just enough so they joints are soft and I can
> >stuff them into the pressure cooker with water and aromatics to make the
> >stock from hell (pics to follow later when I finish shrinking and
> >re-naming the files).
> >
> >Opinions??????
> >
> >

> Probably the pig was a male.
>
> My butcher only gets female pig meat. I am serious, male meat has that
> "****y" smell because of the male hormones.
>
> Christine


All commercial (male) pigs here are castrated so hormones should not be
an issue, but thanks for the idea. :-) When I go feral pig hunting one
of these days, I'll be sure to shoot only sows.
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>> > It stinks. Smells sulfury to me.


Ya' gotta quit buying that cheap Ratzass brand.

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> On Sat 25 Mar 2006 04:31:30p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Dee Randall?
>
> >> Probably the pig was a male.
> >>
> >> My butcher only gets female pig meat. I am serious, male meat has that
> >> "****y" smell because of the male hormones.
> >>
> >> Christine

> >
> > Whereas ------

>
> Fish?


<Schlap!!!!!>
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
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>> Probably the pig was a male.
>>
>> My butcher only gets female pig meat. I am serious, male meat has that
>> "****y" smell because of the male hormones.
>>
>> Christine

>
> All commercial (male) pigs here are castrated


Actually, there is a tendency not to castrate these days as it delays
getting the pig to market by a few days and, as you know, time is money.
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> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:51:32 -0600, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> > wrote:
>
> >Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the
> >store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they
> >stank when I opened them

>
> I got a bad batch of cryovac'd pork last week. If the smell
> doesn't dissipate on 5-10 minutes, then return it.


I rinsed it and started my prep and it went away...

>
> I ended up using half this pork (didn't taste bad)), and put the
> other half in the freezer. The stuff in the freezer was green the
> next day. Bright green. Returned that half and get my money
> back.


Ew.

I try to avoid re-freezing meat I have thawed...

>
> HEB never hassles you about returns or receipt discrepancies.


Totally agree! I have yet to have HEB deny me a refund, even when I took
them some scallops I had cooked and tasted like chemicals! That's
happened twice now. I will no longer EVER purchase scallops at HEB...

> I
> could go in there and claim the price on the shelf was half what I
> was charged and they'd refund the difference.
>
> -sw

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On Sat 25 Mar 2006 05:06:12p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it
OmManiPadmeOmelet?

> In article 9>,
> Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat 25 Mar 2006 04:31:30p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Dee
>> Randall?
>>
>> >> Probably the pig was a male.
>> >>
>> >> My butcher only gets female pig meat. I am serious, male meat has
>> >> that "****y" smell because of the male hormones.
>> >>
>> >> Christine
>> >
>> > Whereas ------

>>
>> Fish?

>
> <Schlap!!!!!>


LOL!

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>Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulde


Bacon has a "smell" just like roast beef, roasted chicken. lamb
<yuck>, cinnamon, cooked cabbage and feces.

Pork shoulder smells just like pork shoulder. Besides, if you cook
anything long enough....it will kill any latent bacteria....if you
think it blinked.


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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the
> store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they
> stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored
> closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat
> and got a refund.
>
> I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in
> the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still
> slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled.
>
> It stinks. Smells sulfury to me.
>
> Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder??????
>
> It's in the dutch oven right now with a layer of carrots on the bottom
> and LOTS of onions, a largish bulb of grated fresh ginger root, an
> entire head of garlic and a generous sprinkling of lemon pepper. Intent
> is to braise it for 2 hours and it's been in now for about 1 hour.
>
> It smells divine.
>
> I'm wondering if I'm just overly sensitive to certain odors????????
>
> No other cuts of pork have done this to me. Pork chops and steaks are
> good for 48 hours in the 'frige at 40 degrees F. Trotters have never
> smelled bad, I thaw them just enough so they joints are soft and I can
> stuff them into the pressure cooker with water and aromatics to make the
> stock from hell (pics to follow later when I finish shrinking and
> re-naming the files).
>
> Opinions??????


Are you taking any medications, birth control, steroids?

Sheldon

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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
> I'm glad I was not alone... This is what I was looking for,
> someone with a similar experience!
>
> I braised it for 2 hours with onion, carrot, garlic, lemon pepper,
> rosemary, mexican oregano and dittany. It came out very, very nice and
> moderately tender. I probably should have let it go for another hour.
>
> The flavor and smell are fine now. It was cryovaced.


You could be developing Multiple Chemical
Sensitivity. This is a psychiatric condition
in which people become hypersensitive to smells.

Here is a description of a typical case.
The author formerly held a very high position in the
Church of Scientology. At the time of writing this
posting, he had left the church and joined an
anti-Scientology group (the Lisa McPherson Trust),
however the group is now defunct.

----------------------------------------------------

From: Jesse Prince
Subject: TALES FROM THE CULT III
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Date: 2000-08-30 09:00:38 PST


Hard to imagine, but not every tale from the cult
involves criminal activity. Sometimes it's just plain old
bizarre, like this one here.

You may have noticed (especially public Scientologist)
that the staff of Sea Org organizations have very strong
opinions about how one smells. In particular, Sea Org
members can't stand the smell of scented products. How odd
it is that ALL Sea Org members reject the smell of perfume
or cologne and act like you have committed a crime if a
person should indulge in such.

Odd behavior indeed! All Sea Org members are trained to
reject "scents" because Hubbard ordered it so. In the same
matter in which he ordered Sea Org members are forbidden to
own a television This goes a long way to explain why Sea
Org members seem so out of touch with just about any and
everything, fashion and trends for sure. It's all to clear
to free thinking people why the control of information is
important if you want to create a "loyal" goon squad and
keep them in the dark. Even someone as stupid and
destructive as Adolph Hitler knew that one!

Anyway, there is a reason and an exact story of why Sea
Org members' are not allowed the simple pleasure of being
able to experience smells or perfume or scented products,
and I'll tell it to you now.

The year was 1984. Hubbard was on an up swing of one of
his manic depressive mood swings. Hubbard started out
writing something about the use of computers on the whole
track ( whole track = existence and civilizations that pre
date any earthly recorded time period) and somehow got into
a rant about tar-coal perfume. Hubbard discovered that
everything he touched had the scent of rose perfume, which
was derived from tar-coal. Hubbard said the rose scent
permeated all new clothes as the sizing used on new clothes
was the same tar coal rose perfume that greatly irritated
his nose and skin. Being highly sensitive because of his
OTness, Hubbard quickly lost patience for anything that
smelled of rose perfume. I guess you could spend a day
reading all of the "advices" Hubbard came up with concerning
rose perfume. Like the BT (body thetan) story, Hubbard
discovered EVERTHING smelled like rose perfume! All of his
clothes smelt like it, every piece of paper sent to him from
Int Management and RTC smelt like it. The poor man was
plagued by cheap rose perfume and when Hubbard was miserable
everyone around or connected to him shared the misery.

Hubbard was an avid smoker of cigarettes, Kool non
filter to be exact and smoked no less than three packs a
day. Anyone who smokes or has smoked knows the sense of
smell is greatly affected by the fact of smoking.

Missions and projects were fired out to find or create
a line of soap products that were scentless. Chemist were
hired, and a new line of soap products were created. At
great expense, a new line of shampoo and conditioner,
laundry soap, body lotion, hand soap, industrial cleaning
soap....you name it. All the while, the hysteria created by
Hubbard for the dreaded rose perfume got worst and worst.

Hubbard was close by Golden Era Productions out in Hemet
and had a team of 6 people that did nothing but clean a
house he lived in a few times a week. This team was also
responsible for doing his laundry. Hubbard and his
messengers developed new tech for handling his laundry. The
procedure was to take a brand new shirt or other new article
of clothing and wash it is six separate tubs of water by
hand three times. That's 18 separate wash cycles! To rinse,
the article was rinsed in six different tubs of clear water
three times. The end product was a new shirt that was now
thread bare and falling apart. Not to be stopped, there was
a special sewer posted that would sew up the ruined
shirt. The shirt would be dried outside on a clothes line,
put in a plastic bag and sent on to Hubbard.

Hubbard had a fit again as he said he could still smell
the rose perfume. He figured the smell was coming from the
plastic bags his thread bare clothes were being sent to him
in. Lower conditions were assigned to everyone connected
with the project as poor little Hubbard
had no clothes to wear!

During this same time period, Hubbard had ordered
Scientology celebs to create a music score for his books,
the Mission Earth series. I'm sure some here have had the
unfortunate experience of hearing this load of crap. Very
similar to the Battlefield Earth movie, crap. Anyway, it was
time to mix the album down and the same producer/engineer
who mixed Michel Jackson's
Thriller album was employed at great expense to try and do
something with the terminally ill music score project.
The name of this person is Bruce Swadean (sp?). Bruce came
with his wife as I guess he was afraid to be
alone in Scientology's top management facilities. After two
days in the studio, a staff member was told to handle
Bruce's wife because she was stinking up Hubbard's studio
with her nasty perfume. Of course Davey is the one who
ordered this to be done. A girl named Mary, got the task and
she pulled Bruce's wife aside while Bruce was in the studio
trying to raise the unborn dead and told her she would have
to handle herself as she was stinking up Hubbard's nice
music studio with her smelly perfume. To say the least, the
woman was horrified by the shear rudeness of what had just
happened and ran into the studio and told her husband about
it.

Without missing a beat, Bruce stood up and told Rick
Cruzen, Charlie Rush, Peter Slesh (sp?) just how wacky he
really thought they all were and left the building never to
be seen or heard from again. No matter how much Davey had
people beg Bruce, he would not come back to the Golden Era
Production concentration camp.

Lower conditions for all concerned again! See how the
misery is spread!

Now every piece of paper sent to Hubbard from Int
Management and RTC had the dreaded rose perfume smell and
lower conditions were flying around in CMO Int. Now the only
way to send something to Hubbard was through Marc Yeager who
was the Commanding Officer of CMO Int until he messed it up
too. Hubbard decided Marc Yeager was full of overts as his
perception had to be way down if he was not able to smell
the rose perfume! Everyone thought Marc had a good nose
because between Davey, Marc and me, Marc was the only one
who did not smoke cigarettes, wrong again. Marc is now
writing up his overts and withholds and doing conditions for
sending up the dreaded rose perfume smell to Hubbard.

This horrified the hell out of me because I knew my
ticket was next. Sure enough Davey and Vickie tell me it's
my turn to go to the ovens and neither one had any advice as
to what I should do. Both had already been smelling
everything that was sent up to Hubbard and they missed it
too. Davey smoked at least 2 packs of Camel non filter
cigarettes and I smoked about a pack and a half. What was I
suppose to smell?

The question going through my mind was what had I done
to get put in this horrible position? How much pain and
humiliation would I have to suffer before it was over for me
and just how over for me would it be? Every bit of perfume
had been taken from all the staff and destroyed. Half of the
newly created line of scentless products were found to be
defective and further test were being done to find the rest
defective. I remember sitting in my office with boxes of
dispatches and laundry ready to be sent to Hubbard, all I
had to do was give it the old smell test and all would be
fine. When you are alone there is no one to pretend for. I
opened the boxes, looked inside and put the lids back on, no
reason to smell. I sat there for what I thought would seem a
reasonable amount of time for a person to smell this crap.
During this interlude, I was wondering if I had recently
done anything that would make Hubbard like me and thus spare
me. A few things came to mind (and I'll tell these later)
but to tell the truth, I didn't feel very confident for
keeping my head.

Anyway the stuff went up and came back. Hubbard was
pleased and said the smell was greatly reduced, though not
fully handled. Hubbard discovered the dreaded rose smell was
coming from the ink in the pens people had used to sign off
that they had checked for smells and found none! I can't
tell you how relieved we all were, me especially. After a
few weeks Hubbard forgot about the dreaded rose perfume
smell and found other things to rant about.

Hubbard had an amazing ability to write down EVERYTHING
and soon a new commandment was issued about smells. Hubbard
even tied it in with the psychs evil plan to kill us all.
This is why and how the whole group of Sea Org and even most
Scientology public can't/won't wear scented products.

All I can say is thank God Hubbard found out about
visteril before he pasted on. Life for the poor Sea Org
members and public could have been a lot worst.


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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the
> store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they
> stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored
> closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat
> and got a refund.
>
> I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in
> the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still
> slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled.
>
> It stinks. Smells sulfury to me.
>
> Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder??????
>
> It's in the dutch oven right now with a layer of carrots on the bottom
> and LOTS of onions, a largish bulb of grated fresh ginger root, an
> entire head of garlic and a generous sprinkling of lemon pepper. Intent
> is to braise it for 2 hours and it's been in now for about 1 hour.
>
> It smells divine.
>
> I'm wondering if I'm just overly sensitive to certain odors????????
>
> No other cuts of pork have done this to me. Pork chops and steaks are
> good for 48 hours in the 'frige at 40 degrees F. Trotters have never
> smelled bad, I thaw them just enough so they joints are soft and I can
> stuff them into the pressure cooker with water and aromatics to make the
> stock from hell (pics to follow later when I finish shrinking and
> re-naming the files).
>
> Opinions??????


Most every Puerto Rican pernil recipe says to douche the pork shoulder
with vinegar. I do the same with fresh ham... fresh pork skin/rind
does get a scuzzy aroma.

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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
...
> Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the
> store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they
> stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored
> closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat
> and got a refund.
>
> I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in
> the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still
> slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled.
>
> It stinks. Smells sulfury to me.
>
> Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder??????
>
> It's in the dutch oven right now with a layer of carrots on the bottom
> and LOTS of onions, a largish bulb of grated fresh ginger root, an
> entire head of garlic and a generous sprinkling of lemon pepper. Intent
> is to braise it for 2 hours and it's been in now for about 1 hour.
>
> It smells divine.
>
> I'm wondering if I'm just overly sensitive to certain odors????????
>
> No other cuts of pork have done this to me. Pork chops and steaks are
> good for 48 hours in the 'frige at 40 degrees F. Trotters have never
> smelled bad, I thaw them just enough so they joints are soft and I can
> stuff them into the pressure cooker with water and aromatics to make the
> stock from hell (pics to follow later when I finish shrinking and
> re-naming the files).
>
> Opinions??????



Can't remember the last time I bought cryovac'd pork, but some of the bagged
salads have a weird odor when I first open them. Might be the same sort of
thing.

And frankly, sometimes I my sense of smell and/or taste is overly sensitive.
Usually after a migraine episode. Sometimes it's a good thing because I
sense subtle flavors that I might otherwise miss. But it's downright
annoying when I start noting off-tastes that no one else notices.

Donna


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In article >,
Ward Abbott > wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:51:32 -0600, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> > wrote:
>
> >Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulde

>
> Bacon has a "smell" just like roast beef, roasted chicken. lamb
> <yuck>, cinnamon, cooked cabbage and feces.
>
> Pork shoulder smells just like pork shoulder. Besides, if you cook
> anything long enough....it will kill any latent bacteria....if you
> think it blinked.
>
>


Smelled fine during cooking... and the flavor is fine.
I'm not sure what the deal was but seems the consensus is that
cryovacced pork tends to do that.

Odd.
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In article >,
Steve Wertz > wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:36:54 -0600, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> > wrote:
>
> >> I ended up using half this pork (didn't taste bad)), and put the
> >> other half in the freezer. The stuff in the freezer was green the
> >> next day. Bright green. Returned that half and get my money
> >> back.

> >
> >Ew.
> >
> >I try to avoid re-freezing meat I have thawed...

>
> It was never frozen.
>
> Even the very conservative USDA site says it's okay to thaw and
> refreeze meat. That's one of those things your mother taught you
> that just simply isn't something to worry about.


I don't worry about it for health reasons, I've found that when I do it,
it tends to mess up the texture of the food in question. That's just
based on personal experience.

>
> >Totally agree! I have yet to have HEB deny me a refund, even when I took
> >them some scallops I had cooked and tasted like chemicals! That's
> >happened twice now. I will no longer EVER purchase scallops at HEB...

>
> Most scallops are treated with sodium or potassium
> tripolyphosphate to make them soak up more water so they can
> charge more. The store you got them at isn't the problem, that's
> the just nature of cheap scallops. Look for "dry", untreated
> scallops.


Indeed. I must just be sensitive to the taste of that crap?
It makes the scallops taste bitter as hell! That's a very stupid
practice as it ruins them!

>
> -sw


The best scallops I've had were on the half-shell from Central Market,
and had roe attached.
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"Sheldon" > wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the
> > store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they
> > stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored
> > closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat
> > and got a refund.
> >
> > I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in
> > the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still
> > slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled.
> >
> > It stinks. Smells sulfury to me.
> >
> > Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder??????
> >
> > It's in the dutch oven right now with a layer of carrots on the bottom
> > and LOTS of onions, a largish bulb of grated fresh ginger root, an
> > entire head of garlic and a generous sprinkling of lemon pepper. Intent
> > is to braise it for 2 hours and it's been in now for about 1 hour.
> >
> > It smells divine.
> >
> > I'm wondering if I'm just overly sensitive to certain odors????????
> >
> > No other cuts of pork have done this to me. Pork chops and steaks are
> > good for 48 hours in the 'frige at 40 degrees F. Trotters have never
> > smelled bad, I thaw them just enough so they joints are soft and I can
> > stuff them into the pressure cooker with water and aromatics to make the
> > stock from hell (pics to follow later when I finish shrinking and
> > re-naming the files).
> >
> > Opinions??????

>
> Are you taking any medications, birth control, steroids?
>
> Sheldon
>


Thyrolar, Metformin and Adderall.
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In article >,
Mark Thorson > wrote:

> You could be developing Multiple Chemical
> Sensitivity. This is a psychiatric condition
> in which people become hypersensitive to smells.
>
> Here is a description of a typical case.
> The author formerly held a very high position in the
> Church of Scientology. At the time of writing this
> posting, he had left the church and joined an
> anti-Scientology group (the Lisa McPherson Trust),
> however the group is now defunct.


<snipped tale of Hubbard>

Interesting... :-)
I do tend to smell stuff that my father does not,
but my friend Lynn' usually agrees with me.

There are some perfumes I cannot stand ("poison" being one of the more
notable ones that smells like "raid" insect spray to me!) but even tho'
some stuff smells strong, it does not bother me...

I love the smell of roses.
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"Sheldon" > wrote:

> Most every Puerto Rican pernil recipe says to douche the pork shoulder
> with vinegar. I do the same with fresh ham... fresh pork skin/rind
> does get a scuzzy aroma.
>
> Sheldon


That's not a bad idea. :-)
My mom taught me to rinse off questionable meat with a vinegar wash.

I just rinsed this one off well with hot water and that got rid of the
majority of the sulpher odor.

Since it was still partially frozen, I felt that there was no way it
could have gone bad.
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"D.Currie" > wrote:

> Can't remember the last time I bought cryovac'd pork, but some of the bagged
> salads have a weird odor when I first open them. Might be the same sort of
> thing.
>
> And frankly, sometimes I my sense of smell and/or taste is overly sensitive.
> Usually after a migraine episode. Sometimes it's a good thing because I
> sense subtle flavors that I might otherwise miss. But it's downright
> annoying when I start noting off-tastes that no one else notices.
>
> Donna


I can relate to that. :-) Thanks!
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> Over the past year or so, I've returned 2 pork shoulder roasts to the
> store. I've put them in the 'frige for cooking within 48 hours and they
> stank when I opened them, and the 'frige temp out back is monitored
> closely at 38 to 40 degrees F...... so I took them back as rotted meat
> and got a refund.
>
> I took a frozen pork shoulder out of the freezer yesterday and put it in
> the 'frige to thaw. Took it out a couple of hours ago, it was still
> slightly crispy with ice crystals. No way in hell can it be spoiled.
>
> It stinks. Smells sulfury to me.
>
> Is it just me? Is this, like, a normal smell for pork shoulder??????



Its "old" meat. You may want to investigate if there is a market that
sells fresher pork in your area.

We buy fresh pork from a local Italian market that cuts the meat on site
and does good volume. There is never that urine/ammonia/rotted smell
when you cook pork bought from them.


>
> It's in the dutch oven right now with a layer of carrots on the bottom
> and LOTS of onions, a largish bulb of grated fresh ginger root, an
> entire head of garlic and a generous sprinkling of lemon pepper. Intent
> is to braise it for 2 hours and it's been in now for about 1 hour.
>
> It smells divine.
>
> I'm wondering if I'm just overly sensitive to certain odors????????
>
> No other cuts of pork have done this to me. Pork chops and steaks are
> good for 48 hours in the 'frige at 40 degrees F. Trotters have never
> smelled bad, I thaw them just enough so they joints are soft and I can
> stuff them into the pressure cooker with water and aromatics to make the
> stock from hell (pics to follow later when I finish shrinking and
> re-naming the files).
>
> Opinions??????

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George > wrote:

> Its "old" meat. You may want to investigate if there is a market that
> sells fresher pork in your area.
>
> We buy fresh pork from a local Italian market that cuts the meat on site
> and does good volume. There is never that urine/ammonia/rotted smell
> when you cook pork bought from them.


Granted, as much as people seem to want to boycott Wal-mart, I seem to
have better luck with pork from them vs. pork from HEB.

HEB's produce tho' is generally superior.
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article >,
> George > wrote:
>
>
>>Its "old" meat. You may want to investigate if there is a market that
>>sells fresher pork in your area.
>>
>>We buy fresh pork from a local Italian market that cuts the meat on site
>>and does good volume. There is never that urine/ammonia/rotted smell
>>when you cook pork bought from them.

>
>
> Granted, as much as people seem to want to boycott Wal-mart, I seem to
> have better luck with pork from them vs. pork from HEB.
>



We don't buy Walmart meat simply because of the added preservatives and
water which are added to allow it to be displayed for a long, long time.


> HEB's produce tho' is generally superior.

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