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~patches~[_1_] 23-03-2006 10:47 PM

Corned Beef ?
 
I put the corned beef on according to the IMO vague instructions. Cover
with cold water, bring to a boil, reduce to simmer and cook until fork
tender. Do I need to cover the pot? Is that foam supposed to be
skimmed off or just left? Do I need to stir at all?

sarah bennett 23-03-2006 10:53 PM

Corned Beef ?
 
~patches~ wrote:
> I put the corned beef on according to the IMO vague instructions. Cover
> with cold water, bring to a boil, reduce to simmer and cook until fork
> tender. Do I need to cover the pot? Is that foam supposed to be
> skimmed off or just left? Do I need to stir at all?


I simmer it, partially covered, and skim after the first half hour or
so. 3 hours should do you good.

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> That type of argument is like
>
> "Bob shot someone"
>
> "Yeah, but don't you remember when Don hit that guy with a bat?"
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jmcquown 23-03-2006 10:58 PM

Corned Beef ?
 
sarah bennett wrote:
> ~patches~ wrote:
>> I put the corned beef on according to the IMO vague instructions.
>> Cover with cold water, bring to a boil, reduce to simmer and cook
>> until fork tender. Do I need to cover the pot? Is that foam
>> supposed to be skimmed off or just left? Do I need to stir at all?

>
> I simmer it, partially covered, and skim after the first half hour or
> so. 3 hours should do you good.


Agreed. And patches, did you use the little peppercorn/crumbled bay leaf
packet that came with it? I usually add a couple more bay leaves and can of
beer to the cooking water.

Jill



~patches~[_1_] 23-03-2006 11:21 PM

Corned Beef ?
 
jmcquown wrote:

> sarah bennett wrote:
>
>>~patches~ wrote:
>>
>>>I put the corned beef on according to the IMO vague instructions.
>>>Cover with cold water, bring to a boil, reduce to simmer and cook
>>>until fork tender. Do I need to cover the pot? Is that foam
>>>supposed to be skimmed off or just left? Do I need to stir at all?

>>
>>I simmer it, partially covered, and skim after the first half hour or
>>so. 3 hours should do you good.

>
>
> Agreed. And patches, did you use the little peppercorn/crumbled bay leaf
> packet that came with it? I usually add a couple more bay leaves and can of
> beer to the cooking water.
>
> Jill
>
>


Thanks! Yes, I added the seasoning packet. Do you add the beer right
from the start or part way through the simmer stage?

Wayne Boatwright[_1_] 23-03-2006 11:21 PM

Corned Beef ?
 
On Thu 23 Mar 2006 03:58:53p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it jmcquown?

> sarah bennett wrote:
>> ~patches~ wrote:
>>> I put the corned beef on according to the IMO vague instructions.
>>> Cover with cold water, bring to a boil, reduce to simmer and cook
>>> until fork tender. Do I need to cover the pot? Is that foam
>>> supposed to be skimmed off or just left? Do I need to stir at all?

>>
>> I simmer it, partially covered, and skim after the first half hour or
>> so. 3 hours should do you good.

>
> Agreed. And patches, did you use the little peppercorn/crumbled bay
> leaf packet that came with it? I usually add a couple more bay leaves
> and can of beer to the cooking water.


Also agreed, but I toss the little packet and add a tablespoon or so of
pickling spice. The beer is a good addition.

--
Wayne Boatwright ożo
____________________

BIOYA

jmcquown 23-03-2006 11:36 PM

Corned Beef ?
 
~patches~ wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> sarah bennett wrote:
>>
>>> ~patches~ wrote:
>>>
>>>> I put the corned beef on according to the IMO vague instructions.
>>>> Cover with cold water, bring to a boil, reduce to simmer and cook
>>>> until fork tender. Do I need to cover the pot? Is that foam
>>>> supposed to be skimmed off or just left? Do I need to stir at all?
>>>
>>> I simmer it, partially covered, and skim after the first half hour
>>> or
>>> so. 3 hours should do you good.

>>
>>
>> Agreed. And patches, did you use the little peppercorn/crumbled bay
>> leaf packet that came with it? I usually add a couple more bay
>> leaves and can of beer to the cooking water.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>

>
> Thanks! Yes, I added the seasoning packet. Do you add the beer right
> from the start or part way through the simmer stage?


I add it right from the start. Not necessary, but I think beer adds a
little something :)

Jill



Paul M. Cook[_1_] 24-03-2006 12:01 AM

Corned Beef ?
 

"~patches~" > wrote in message
...
> I put the corned beef on according to the IMO vague instructions. Cover
> with cold water, bring to a boil, reduce to simmer and cook until fork
> tender. Do I need to cover the pot? Is that foam supposed to be
> skimmed off or just left? Do I need to stir at all?


Don't simmer it, keep it just below the simmer. Sure, skim off the foam, it
does nothing for the flavor. Do cover the pot, you don't want to cook off
all the liquid and the cover makes it easier to maintain the temperature.
Do add your spices and seasonings now. You need not stir it.

Add the potatoes the last 15 minutes, then add the cabbage wedges the last 5
minutes. I also like to add onion wedges with the potatoes. Do not boil,
you don;t want to break up the vegetables - you want them to stay whole.

Paul



Bob Terwilliger[_1_] 24-03-2006 12:22 AM

Corned Beef ?
 
Jill wrote about adding beer to the corned beef simmering liquid:

> I add it right from the start. Not necessary, but I think beer
> adds a little something :)


Sign in a Vienna beergarden:

In vino veritas
In bier ist auch etwas

First line is Latin, meaning "In wine there is truth."
Second line is German, meaning "In beer there is also a little something."

Bob



Amarantha 24-03-2006 01:02 AM

Corned Beef ?
 
"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in
news:JFGUf.13404$vy.11066@trnddc01:

>
> "~patches~" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I put the corned beef on according to the IMO vague instructions.
>> Cover with cold water, bring to a boil, reduce to simmer and cook
>> until fork tender. Do I need to cover the pot? Is that foam
>> supposed to be skimmed off or just left? Do I need to stir at all?

>
> Don't simmer it, keep it just below the simmer. Sure, skim off the
> foam, it does nothing for the flavor. Do cover the pot, you don't
> want to cook off all the liquid and the cover makes it easier to
> maintain the temperature. Do add your spices and seasonings now. You
> need not stir it.
>
> Add the potatoes the last 15 minutes, then add the cabbage wedges the
> last 5 minutes. I also like to add onion wedges with the potatoes.
> Do not boil, you don;t want to break up the vegetables - you want them
> to stay whole.
>
> Paul
>
>
>


I second this - don't boil it. The more gently you cook it, the more
tender it will be. This I learnt from experience :)

K

limey 24-03-2006 03:01 PM

Corned Beef ?
 

"Amarantha" wrote

> "Paul M. Cook" wrote >
>>
>> "~patches~" wrote >>
>>> I put the corned beef on according to the IMO vague instructions.
>>> Cover with cold water, bring to a boil, reduce to simmer and cook
>>> until fork tender. Do I need to cover the pot? Is that foam
>>> supposed to be skimmed off or just left? Do I need to stir at all?

>>
>> Don't simmer it, keep it just below the simmer. Sure, skim off the
>> foam, it does nothing for the flavor. Do cover the pot, you don't
>> want to cook off all the liquid and the cover makes it easier to
>> maintain the temperature. Do add your spices and seasonings now. You
>> need not stir it.
>>
>> Add the potatoes the last 15 minutes, then add the cabbage wedges the
>> last 5 minutes. I also like to add onion wedges with the potatoes.
>> Do not boil, you don;t want to break up the vegetables - you want them
>> to stay whole.
>>
>> Paul
>>

>
> I second this - don't boil it. The more gently you cook it, the more
> tender it will be. This I learnt from experience :)
>
> K


Absolutely - don't boil it. The trouble I have is with my electric
smoothtop - getting the setting down to where it stays on a barely-moving
simmer and doesn't go totally motionless. The lower the simmer, the better
it is.
Expect a lot of shrinkage - that's normal. If I'm ambitious that day, I
also like to tie the spices into cheesecloth - saves those little bits from
drifting through the cabbage. Just me.

Dora



Wayne 24-03-2006 03:45 PM

Corned Beef ?
 
~patches~ wrote:
> I put the corned beef on according to the IMO vague instructions. Cover
> with cold water, bring to a boil, reduce to simmer and cook until fork
> tender. Do I need to cover the pot? Is that foam supposed to be
> skimmed off or just left? Do I need to stir at all?

I would suggest a much different way to cook the corned beef. Since I
was introduced to this method I have used it exclusively and with great
success.


Baked corned beef

Bake: Pre heat oven to 350° Remove meat from package and place on rack
in pan fat side up. Add approximately one inch of water to bottom of
pan. Cover with contents of included spice package if desired. Cover
pan with lid or foil, bake for fifty minutes per pound or until fork
tender. With ten minutes left, uncover pan and bake at 375°. When
corned beef is done remove from oven and let cool for 20 to 30 minutes.
Always slice meat across grain pour juices over sliced corned beef.

Enjoy

Wayne


[email protected] 24-03-2006 04:09 PM

Corned Beef ?
 
Honey, you best not eat this type of beet.
The salt content will kill you.
This is a very UN-healthy cut of meat.
This cut is usually served to low income
people who don't know any better.


chuck


notbob 24-03-2006 05:03 PM

Corned Beef ?
 
On 2006-03-24, Wayne > wrote:

> I would suggest a much different way to cook the corned beef. Since I
> was introduced to this method I have used it exclusively and with great
> success.


This is where a pressure cooker really shines. I put a 2 to 2-1/2lb
flat in my 5qt cooker with about 2C water on a rack of carrots and
celery. Cook for about 1 hr at 15lbs and it comes out perfect.
Another advantage to this method, unlike boiling less flavor leaches out
into the cooking liquid.

nb

~patches~[_1_] 24-03-2006 08:20 PM

Corned Beef ?
 
wrote:

> Honey, you best not eat this type of beet.
> The salt content will kill you.
> This is a very UN-healthy cut of meat.
> This cut is usually served to low income
> people who don't know any better.
>
>
> chuck
>


I wouldn't think it any higher in salt than bacon or pea meal bacon. DH
didn't like either the flavour or texture so wouldn't eat it. I let it
cool then sliced really thin for sandwiches to be divided amongst which
ever of my kids want to try some and kept a little for myself.

jmcquown 24-03-2006 08:33 PM

Corned Beef ?
 
~patches~ wrote:
> wrote:
>
>> Honey, you best not eat this type of beet.
>> The salt content will kill you.
>> This is a very UN-healthy cut of meat.
>> This cut is usually served to low income
>> people who don't know any better.
>>
>>
>> chuck
>>

>
> I wouldn't think it any higher in salt than bacon or pea meal bacon.
> DH didn't like either the flavour or texture so wouldn't eat it. I
> let it cool then sliced really thin for sandwiches to be divided
> amongst which ever of my kids want to try some and kept a little for
> myself.


How was it?! I LOVE corned beef!

Jill



Default User 24-03-2006 09:13 PM

Corned Beef ?
 
~patches~ wrote:

> wrote:
>
> > Honey, you best not eat this type of beet.
> > The salt content will kill you.


> I wouldn't think it any higher in salt than bacon or pea meal bacon.
> DH didn't like either the flavour or texture so wouldn't eat it. I
> let it cool then sliced really thin for sandwiches to be divided
> amongst which ever of my kids want to try some and kept a little for
> myself.


It seems to me that modern corned beef is so low in salt that when
boiled I find myself salting the result. Not a problem with smoked,
where I still soak for a few days first.



Brian

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Reg[_1_] 24-03-2006 09:14 PM

Corned Beef ?
 
~patches~ wrote:

> wrote:
>
>> Honey, you best not eat this type of beet.
>> The salt content will kill you.
>> This is a very UN-healthy cut of meat.
>> This cut is usually served to low income
>> people who don't know any better.
>>
>>
>> chuck
>>

>
> I wouldn't think it any higher in salt than bacon or pea meal bacon.


Exactly.

--
Reg


~patches~[_1_] 24-03-2006 09:43 PM

Corned Beef ?
 
jmcquown wrote:

> ~patches~ wrote:
>
wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Honey, you best not eat this type of beet.
>>>The salt content will kill you.
>>>This is a very UN-healthy cut of meat.
>>>This cut is usually served to low income
>>>people who don't know any better.
>>>
>>>
>>>chuck
>>>

>>
>>I wouldn't think it any higher in salt than bacon or pea meal bacon.
>>DH didn't like either the flavour or texture so wouldn't eat it. I
>>let it cool then sliced really thin for sandwiches to be divided
>>amongst which ever of my kids want to try some and kept a little for
>>myself.

>
>
> How was it?! I LOVE corned beef!
>
> Jill
>
>


See my thank-you post :(


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