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Little piece in this morning's paper extracting the juicy bits from a
couple of surveys. Apparently 78% of evening meals are prepared at home.
Consumption of salads, yoghurt and bottled water is up, hamburgers and
fizzy drinks is down. The most common takeaway food item is the
sandwich; the statistical average Australian ate 20 last year, followed
by 18 buckets of chips and 12 burgers.

A different survey found that people on more than $85,000 per annum
preferred Thai when eating out, the paupers opting for Chinese - not
surprising since it tends to be more expensive. The other choices,
Italian and Indian, were also ranked differently, but I don't know what
indicates.

Just thought you'd like to know.

Christine

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Old Mother Ashby wrote:
> Little piece in this morning's paper extracting the juicy bits from a
> couple of surveys. Apparently 78% of evening meals are prepared at home.
> Consumption of salads, yoghurt and bottled water is up, hamburgers and
> fizzy drinks is down. The most common takeaway food item is the
> sandwich; the statistical average Australian ate 20 last year, followed
> by 18 buckets of chips and 12 burgers.

I'm surprised that fish and chips doesn't lead the list, but maybe they
made a distinction betwen takeaway food and fast food.
>
> A different survey found that people on more than $85,000 per annum
> preferred Thai when eating out, the paupers opting for Chinese - not
> surprising since it tends to be more expensive. The other choices,
> Italian and Indian, were also ranked differently, but I don't know what
> indicates.

Well, Australia still has a ways to go in integrating other cultures.
-aem

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aem wrote:

>Old Mother Ashby wrote:
>
>
>>Little piece in this morning's paper extracting the juicy bits from a
>>couple of surveys. Apparently 78% of evening meals are prepared at home.
>>Consumption of salads, yoghurt and bottled water is up, hamburgers and
>>fizzy drinks is down. The most common takeaway food item is the
>>sandwich; the statistical average Australian ate 20 last year, followed
>>by 18 buckets of chips and 12 burgers.
>>
>>
>
>I'm surprised that fish and chips doesn't lead the list, but maybe they
>made a distinction betwen takeaway food and fast food.
>
>
Here, have a look at the whole article. Fish and chips is apparently
number 7. Since you often get hamburgers from the same shop, any attempt
to dstinguish it from hamburgers on the grounds of one being fast food
and the other being takeaway doesn't make sense. Personally I'm
surprised that meat pies are so far down the list.

This is the online version of the article. The bit about the rich eating
Thai food is a spearate piece, but the print version amalgamates them.


Humble sanga still top takeaway

More Australians are chowing down on dim sims, rice and noodle dishes as
Chinese cuisine captures an increasing share of the $9 billion a year
fast food market.

But the humble sandwich remains Australia's most popular takeaway meal,
according to research released today.

The research shows health conscious consumers are biting off a greater
share of the fast food market, with takeaway staple potato chips
plateauing in popularity.

An analysis of the nation's fast food habits by industry analyst and
forecaster BIS Shrapnel found Australians consumed 20 takeaway
sandwiches per head of population last year.

Hot potato chips came in second at 18, while hamburgers were the
nation's third favourite at 12.

The report - Fast Food in Australia, 2006 to 2008 - was based on a
survey of 1,700 consumers.

And while Chinese food ranked fifth in the popularity stakes, it
represented the greatest growth market, increasing from six takeaway
serves per head in 2002 to nine in 2005.

Chinese was a big hit with older consumers, while sushi was the most
popular Asian choice for 18-24 year-olds and Thai for 25-35-year-olds.

Cakes and pastries ranked fourth overall, followed by pizza, fish, ice
cream, meat pies and filled rolls.

The report's author Dr Sandro Mangosi said flavour, variety and price
all influenced consumer choice, with health playing an increasingly
pivotal role.

Fifty per cent of respondents said they looked for "diet" products,
while low-fat, additive-free and low-salt foods gained popularity as
consumers relied more on fast food alternatives to cooking at home.

Sales of salads, yogurt and bottled water increased, while hamburgers
and fizzy drinks decreased.

"We are now living in a society of time-starved consumers looking for
convenience food prepared in food service outlets and eaten either on
food service premises or in the home," Dr Mangosi said.

"Cooking has become more of a hobby than a necessity for many consumers."

Australia's fast food market has swelled by 3 per cent in the last five
years, with 1.4 billion meals bought over the counter.

The popularity of sandwiches led to an explosion of Subway stores,
eclipsing McDonald's as the most prolific food outlet with 851 stores
nationwide.

Major chains represented 60 per cent of the takeaway market and most
experienced growth, with Pizza Hut, Pinky's Pizza, Pizza Haven and
Chicken Treat the exceptions.

Independent operators, including sandwich bars, reduced in number.

*Australia's top 10 takeaway foods*

1. Sandwiches

2. Hot potato chips

3. Hamburgers

4. Cakes/pastries

5. Chinese food

6. Pizza

7. Fish fried/grilled

8. Icecream

9. Meat pies

10. Filled rolls.


Source: BIS Shrapnel.

- AAP

>>A different survey found that people on more than $85,000 per annum
>>preferred Thai when eating out, the paupers opting for Chinese - not
>>surprising since it tends to be more expensive. The other choices,
>>Italian and Indian, were also ranked differently, but I don't know what
>>indicates.
>>
>>
>
>Well, Australia still has a ways to go in integrating other cultures.
>
>
How do you mean? The four on the list constitute the most common types
of ethnic restaurants. We have every other kind as well, but there
aren't enough Nepalese or Ethiopian to count statistically. I haven't
seen the original survey, so I don't know if they just asked about the
four, or whether respondents were asked to nominate any type they liked.

Christine

> -aem
>
>
>

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In article >, Old Mother Ashby > wrote:
>Little piece in this morning's paper extracting the juicy bits from a
>couple of surveys. Apparently 78% of evening meals are prepared at home.
>Consumption of salads, yoghurt and bottled water is up, hamburgers and
>fizzy drinks is down. The most common takeaway food item is the
>sandwich; the statistical average Australian ate 20 last year, followed
>by 18 buckets of chips and 12 burgers.
>
>A different survey found that people on more than $85,000 per annum
>preferred Thai when eating out, the paupers opting for Chinese - not
>surprising since it tends to be more expensive. The other choices,
>Italian and Indian, were also ranked differently, but I don't know what
>indicates.

The traditional Italian cafes of 40 years ago have died out locally --
gone are the days when all you could get after a night at the pub was
chicken and spaghetti or steak and spaghetti. [As well as the menu
changes, it's pretty well impossible to get a feed in town at all now
after 8 p.m. :-( ]

When pub counter meals became common a favourite dish was the mixed
grill (it still is) and the cafs changed to this too, as well as a
wider range of other dishes.

We've had a Chinese place (sometimes two) for about 20 years now. I
rarely use it for takeaway, but commonly eat in there. There's also a
Thai joint in town now. It's pretty much obligate takeaway and only
open in the evening. Nothing Indian, which is a pity as I really got
to like Indian tucker during several months on the subcontinent.

Today I bought a pie from a pie cart for the first time in years!
(This is not to say I've given up on pies; just that I haven't seen a
pie cart down town for yonks. :)

Cheers, Phred.

--
LID

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Speaking a Indian can I suggest to those in Melbourne to give "The Spice
Club" Nepean Hway Frankston a go.
When last there the service was so-so but the food more than made up for
it.Apparently its the Bollywood restaurant of choice.Nice interior flawless
Indian fare and a buffet nightly.
G.
"Phred" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Old Mother Ashby > wrote:
>>Little piece in this morning's paper extracting the juicy bits from a
>>couple of surveys. Apparently 78% of evening meals are prepared at home.
>>Consumption of salads, yoghurt and bottled water is up, hamburgers and
>>fizzy drinks is down. The most common takeaway food item is the
>>sandwich; the statistical average Australian ate 20 last year, followed
>>by 18 buckets of chips and 12 burgers.
>>
>>A different survey found that people on more than $85,000 per annum
>>preferred Thai when eating out, the paupers opting for Chinese - not
>>surprising since it tends to be more expensive. The other choices,
>>Italian and Indian, were also ranked differently, but I don't know what
>>indicates.
>
> The traditional Italian cafes of 40 years ago have died out locally --
> gone are the days when all you could get after a night at the pub was
> chicken and spaghetti or steak and spaghetti. [As well as the menu
> changes, it's pretty well impossible to get a feed in town at all now
> after 8 p.m. :-( ]
>
> When pub counter meals became common a favourite dish was the mixed
> grill (it still is) and the cafs changed to this too, as well as a
> wider range of other dishes.
>
> We've had a Chinese place (sometimes two) for about 20 years now. I
> rarely use it for takeaway, but commonly eat in there. There's also a
> Thai joint in town now. It's pretty much obligate takeaway and only
> open in the evening. Nothing Indian, which is a pity as I really got
> to like Indian tucker during several months on the subcontinent.
>
> Today I bought a pie from a pie cart for the first time in years!
> (This is not to say I've given up on pies; just that I haven't seen a
> pie cart down town for yonks. :)
>
> Cheers, Phred.
>
> --
> LID
>

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"Ms Leebee" > wrote in message


> My husband grew up in Melbourne, and remembers his dad loading up the
> car with an assortment of pots to get Chinese takeaway .. how foreign
> it all seems .. like the dark ages .... but this was probably the
> early 80's.

Heh. I remember the same thing (late 70's or early 80's). We had a local
chinese shop (grew up in Springvale, Vic) where it was about $5 (IIRC) for a
pot of chinese food. Bring your own pot.
I remember dad dragging this thing that looked like a witches cauldron down
there and coming home with enough to feed about 4 families.


--
Kwyj

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In article >,
"Ms Leebee" > wrote:

> My husband grew up in Melbourne, and remembers his dad loading up the car
> with an assortment of pots to get Chinese takeaway .. how foreign it all
> seems .. like the dark ages .... but this was probably the early 80's.

Makes you feel old, dunnit?

I felt old today when looking up the Voyager missions for DS1 and discovering
that we've just passed the *25th* Anniversary of the Voyager 1 Saturn
Encounter! And I thought about how Gen-X Voyager is...

--
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
(Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply)

"... if *I* was buying a baby I'd jolly well make sure it was at
least a two-tooth!"
Mary Grant Bruce, The Houses of the Eagle.

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"Chookie" > wrote in message

> In article >,
> "Ms Leebee" > wrote:
>
>> My husband grew up in Melbourne, and remembers his dad loading up
>> the car with an assortment of pots to get Chinese takeaway .. how
>> foreign it all seems .. like the dark ages .... but this was
>> probably the early 80's.
>
> Makes you feel old, dunnit?
>
> I felt old today when looking up the Voyager missions for DS1 and
> discovering that we've just passed the *25th* Anniversary of the
> Voyager 1 Saturn Encounter! And I thought about how Gen-X Voyager
> is...

I felt decidedly old a few weeks ago when I realised that I went to see the
movie 'Top Gun" 20 YEARS AGO!!!


--
Kwyj

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Ms Leebee wrote:

> Phred wrote:
>
>>The traditional Italian cafes of 40 years ago have died out locally --
>>gone are the days when all you could get after a night at the pub was
>>chicken and spaghetti or steak and spaghetti. [As well as the menu
>>changes, it's pretty well impossible to get a feed in town at all now
>>after 8 p.m. :-( ]
>
>
> I still remember my first 'spaghetti carbonara'.
> We had a pizza shop in town, in the mid-80's. I've never been a real fan of
> the pizza.
> One night mum brought home a takeaway pasta ( very posh, must have been a
> flush week ), and my siter and I hovered over to look. It was a spaghetti,
> but in a curdled looking white-ish sauce !! What ?!?!?
>
> Anyway, I was allowed but a taste ( my mum obvioulsy did not want me hogging
> this epicurean delight in a small town ), but I adored it, how exotic ;)
>
> My husband grew up in Melbourne, and remembers his dad loading up the car
> with an assortment of pots to get Chinese takeaway .. how foreign it all
> seems .. like the dark ages .... but this was probably the early 80's.
>
Hmmm, I can recall doing it in the '60s (Wong's Cafe in Elsternwick),
but by the 70's (we'd switched to the Sun Ah, also in Elsternwick) they
were thoroughly plasticated... Vague memories of seeing people still
bringing in pots, may be a confabulation, however.

Cheers,
Gary B-)

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Kwyjibo wrote:

>"Chookie" > wrote in message

>
>
>>In article >,
>>"Ms Leebee" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>My husband grew up in Melbourne, and remembers his dad loading up
>>>the car with an assortment of pots to get Chinese takeaway .. how
>>>foreign it all seems .. like the dark ages .... but this was
>>>probably the early 80's.
>>>
>>>
>>Makes you feel old, dunnit?
>>
>>I felt old today when looking up the Voyager missions for DS1 and
>>discovering that we've just passed the *25th* Anniversary of the
>>Voyager 1 Saturn Encounter! And I thought about how Gen-X Voyager
>>is...
>>
>>
>
>I felt decidedly old a few weeks ago when I realised that I went to see the
>movie 'Top Gun" 20 YEARS AGO!!!
>
>
>
>
I can remember, in the 1960's, going with my brother in the billycart
and a couple of saucepans to get Chinese. People in those days were
still suspicious of Chinese restaurants, which were accused of
substituting rabbit for chicken. A generation earlier they were accused
of substituting cat!

You people are all just youngsters! I can remember watching the first
moon walk in 1969, so there...

Christine

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On Sun 26 Mar 2006 07:12:26p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Dyna
Soar?

> Tricia wrote:
>> Old Mother Ashby wrote:
>>> I can remember, in the 1960's, going with my brother in the billycart
>>> and a couple of saucepans to get Chinese. People in those days were
>>> still suspicious of Chinese restaurants, which were accused of
>>> substituting rabbit for chicken. A generation earlier they were
>>> accused of substituting cat!
>
>>> You people are all just youngsters! I can remember watching the first
>>> moon walk in 1969, so there...
>
>>> Christine
>
>> As do I..Grade 6
>
> You're all just babies:-))

LOL! As are you!

> I listened to the radio broadcast of the first moon landing sitting in
> my car outside our GP's surgery. My wife as in with the doctor who gave
> her the news that she was preggies with our number 4 daughter (who was
> born on 15th March 1970). We then went home and watched the rest of the
> broadcast on TV.

I remember radio and TV coverage of the launching of Russian sattelite,
Sputnik, on October 4, 1957. I was in 7th grade.

--
Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬
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Yep, I can remember going with Dad and my siblings, piling into the
Ford Zepher (sp?) to the local Chinese (Kwan Wah in Brighton Vic) with
our saucepans in the 60's!
I still remember the flavour and aroma of the rice - it was smokey in
some way, and I have never been able to replicate it, nor seen it in a
restaurant since.
Gosh, we are getting long in the tooth!
Cheers
Bronwyn
Qld


> >
> >
> I can remember, in the 1960's, going with my brother in the billycart
> and a couple of saucepans to get Chinese. People in those days were
> still suspicious of Chinese restaurants, which were accused of
> substituting rabbit for chicken. A generation earlier they were accused
> of substituting cat!
>
> You people are all just youngsters! I can remember watching the first
> moon walk in 1969, so there...
>
> Christine

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Gee Wayne, you are old ! [ducking]

-- Bronwyn

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On Sun 26 Mar 2006 11:18:42p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Dyna
Soar?

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Dyna Soar?
>
>>> Tricia wrote:
>>>> Old Mother Ashby wrote:
>>>>> I can remember, in the 1960's, going with my brother in the
>>>>> billycart and a couple of saucepans to get Chinese. People in
>>>>> those days were still suspicious of Chinese restaurants, which
>>>>> were accused of substituting rabbit for chicken. A generation
>>>>> earlier they were accused of substituting cat!
>
>>>>> You people are all just youngsters! I can remember watching the
>>>>> first moon walk in 1969, so there...
>
>>>>> Christine
>
>>>> As do I..Grade 6
>
>>> You're all just babies:-))
>
>> LOL! As are you!
>
> If you were in 7th grade in 1957, I am a few years older than you,
> unless you repeated grades quite a few times:-)

I was born in January, 1945.

>>> I listened to the radio broadcast of the first moon landing sitting
>>> in my car outside our GP's surgery. My wife as in with the doctor
>>> who gave her the news that she was preggies with our number 4
>>> daughter (who was born on 15th March 1970). We then went home and
>>> watched the rest of the broadcast on TV.
>
>> I remember radio and TV coverage of the launching of Russian
>> sattelite, Sputnik, on October 4, 1957. I was in 7th grade.
>
> The TV coverage of the launching of the Sputnik? I don't think so, at
> least not live. At the launching of the original Sputnik, there would
> have been no way the Russians would have allowed live broadcasting of
> the event, either via radio or television even if it were feasible to
> carry the TV signals over great distances. Perhaps you saw delayed news
> reports. Anyway, in 1957 I was almost three years into my cadetship,
> having finished my schooling at the end of 1954. We were able for many
> months to watch with the naked eye the passage of the Sputnik across the
> sky, the times of each visible orbit being announced in the newspapers.

Perhaps I said that wrong. There were many news reports on both radio and
television, practically constantly. Certainly not a live feed. Over a
period of time there were many televised shots of sputnik from various
major telescope sites.

> I remember the day WW2 ended in the Pacific, I was six years old and
> living with my parents in Kalgoorlie, Western Australia. All the
> residents were partying in the street. My mother tells me (I don't
> remember this bit <g>) I remarked that now the war was finished there
> would be no more news on the radio, evidently almost all the hourly news
> on the radio consisted of war reports (as would be expected, but not by
> a six year old).

Obviously I remember nothing of WWII. My dad was a US Army Captain and
stationed in the Aleutian Islands. What I remember are stories told by him
and my other relatives of what the 1940s were like over that span of time.

> Anyway, age is relative - it still takes me all night to do what I used
> to do all night :-)

Yes, it is relative. There are days that I feel 100 years old, but most
times I feel much younger than my age.

--
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In article >, Old Mother Ashby > wrote:
[snip]
>I can remember, in the 1960's, going with my brother in the billycart
>and a couple of saucepans to get Chinese. People in those days were
>still suspicious of Chinese restaurants, which were accused of
>substituting rabbit for chicken. A generation earlier they were accused
>of substituting cat!

"Roof rabbit."

>You people are all just youngsters! I can remember watching the first
>moon walk in 1969, so there...

I only heard it on the wireless. ;-)

Cheers, Phred.

--
LID

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>
> Obviously I remember nothing of WWII. My dad was a US Army Captain and
> stationed in the Aleutian Islands. What I remember are stories told by
> him
> and my other relatives of what the 1940s were like over that span of time.
>

>
> Yes, it is relative. There are days that I feel 100 years old, but most
> times I feel much younger than my age.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬

Today, Wayne, I'm feeling the age I YAM.
But watching Foodnetwork (now at 10am.) of a kitchen. Her old kitchen looks
better than mine! But smaller. So I guess I have an asset to work with.
Anxious to see what they come up with.

My dad was in the Seabees on Attu in the Aleutian Islands. I'm pretty sure
he enlised in Ohio; that might be the coincidence of places served.
Dee Dee

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"Dee Randall" > wrote

> But watching Foodnetwork (now at 10am.) of a kitchen. Her old kitchen
> looks better than mine! But smaller. So I guess I have an asset to work
> with. Anxious to see what they come up with.

I think this is the one where they stuck the oven outside the
kitchen part into the diningroom part with no counterspace
on either side of it.

I thought it was lame, they should have put the oven in
the kitchen part and the other space in the diningroom.

If it's the one I'm thinking of.

nancy

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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dee Randall" > wrote
>
>> But watching Foodnetwork (now at 10am.) of a kitchen. Her old kitchen
>> looks better than mine! But smaller. So I guess I have an asset to work
>> with. Anxious to see what they come up with.
>
> I think this is the one where they stuck the oven outside the
> kitchen part into the diningroom part with no counterspace
> on either side of it.
>
> I thought it was lame, they should have put the oven in
> the kitchen part and the other space in the diningroom.
>
> If it's the one I'm thinking of.
>
> nancy
I'll watch the finish of it later and let you know. I got way-laid with
phone calls. Glad I recorded it.
Oh, it was with Cat Cora -- if that's the correct name. Interspersed with
recipes of stuffed tomatoes for a family of 4 kids. Funny, but I've never
stuffed a tomato in my life. A few peppers, but I really am not excited
about stuffing food into food. Perhaps wrapping, not stuffing -- not even
turkey, Wayne! (If you are reading.)

Dee Dee

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On Mon 27 Mar 2006 01:11:27a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Bronwyn?

> Gee Wayne, you are old ! [ducking]
>
> -- Bronwyn

<smile> Yes, I am, but at least I'm still breathing. :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright Õ¿Õ¬
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Okay, okay, I take it back! UnScrew you!