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Cooks Illustrated distasteful emails
I was a charter subscriber to cooks and to the email newsletter. I cut
out the paper issues because I couldn't stand Chris Kimball's holier than thou articles about rural living. I liked the email because it gave me access to the online version where I could ignore the editorials. Now the latest email contains a "delightful" few paragraphs on the joy of hunting! Wish I could boycott the whole magazine except it does have good cooking stuff. Anyone else feel the same way! And they never respond to negative letters, take it from me. Bliss |
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"timbrel" > wrote in message oups.com... > I was a charter subscriber to cooks and to the email newsletter. I cut > out the paper issues because I couldn't stand Chris Kimball's holier > than thou articles about rural living. I liked the email because it > gave me access to the online version where I could ignore the > editorials. Now the latest email contains a "delightful" few paragraphs > on the joy of hunting! Wish I could boycott the whole magazine except > it does have good cooking stuff. Anyone else feel the same way! And > they never respond to negative letters, take it from me. > My solution was to take a deep breath and stop any contact with that miserable company. I am lucky to have a friend who still subscribes to the magazine although failing that the local public library probably has copies for browsing. pavane |
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"pavane" > wrote > "timbrel" > wrote >>Wish I could boycott the whole magazine except >> it does have good cooking stuff. Anyone else feel the same way! And >> they never respond to negative letters, take it from me. > My solution was to take a deep breath and stop any contact > with that miserable company. I am lucky to have a friend who > still subscribes to the magazine although failing that the local > public library probably has copies for browsing. I subscribe to the magazine and have not had any problems, but I have heard that they are a nightmare to deal with. I find all magazine publishers a pain in the butt. People have complained about Cook's books in that, you buy one and you're in the fight of your life to get them to stop sending and billing you for them. I'm quite sure they will not change the content of their letters, so if you don't like them, I guess you just have to skip that part. nancy |
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On 8 Feb 2006 05:09:18 -0800, "timbrel" > wrote:
>I was a charter subscriber to cooks and to the email newsletter. I cut >out the paper issues because I couldn't stand Chris Kimball's holier >than thou articles about rural living. I liked the email because it >gave me access to the online version where I could ignore the >editorials. Now the latest email contains a "delightful" few paragraphs >on the joy of hunting! Wish I could boycott the whole magazine except >it does have good cooking stuff. Anyone else feel the same way! And >they never respond to negative letters, take it from me. > >Bliss I agree. I even tried just subscribing for online access to escape Kimball. His "folksy" wisdom makes my skin crawl. Watching him on TV gives me the same reaction it does some about Sandra Lee. Only she has better boobs, though I guess he could buy a pair the same place she did. When I had some difficulties accessing "special features" online last year, I got such a runaround of nonsense and misinformation that I did not renew the subscription online, either. Years ago I had trouble with their paper subscription when they sent me 3 back issues instead of starting my sub with the newest issue. That took 4 months to settle when I wrote "cancel" on their first invoice and after many letters and phone calls, they threatened to send it to collection. I told them to go on and do it. I never heard back after that. Granted, that is likely a service they use, and not the magazine personnel, themselves. Are the articles helpful? Sometimes. Are the recipes good? Sometimes. I liked the drawings on the back covers. That is really the only thing I miss. Boron |
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"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message ... > On 8 Feb 2006 05:09:18 -0800, "timbrel" > wrote: > >>I was a charter subscriber to cooks and to the email newsletter. I cut >>out the paper issues because I couldn't stand Chris Kimball's holier >>than thou articles about rural living. I liked the email because it >>gave me access to the online version where I could ignore the >>editorials. Now the latest email contains a "delightful" few paragraphs >>on the joy of hunting! Wish I could boycott the whole magazine except >>it does have good cooking stuff. Anyone else feel the same way! And >>they never respond to negative letters, take it from me. >> >>Bliss > > > I agree. I even tried just subscribing for online access to escape > Kimball. His "folksy" wisdom makes my skin crawl. Watching him on TV > gives me the same reaction it does some about Sandra Lee. Only she has > better boobs, though I guess he could buy a pair the same place she > did. > > When I had some difficulties accessing "special features" online last > year, I got such a runaround of nonsense and misinformation that I did > not renew the subscription online, either. > > Years ago I had trouble with their paper subscription when they sent > me 3 back issues instead of starting my sub with the newest issue. > That took 4 months to settle when I wrote "cancel" on their first > invoice and after many letters and phone calls, they threatened to > send it to collection. I told them to go on and do it. I never heard > back after that. Granted, that is likely a service they use, and not > the magazine personnel, themselves. > > Are the articles helpful? Sometimes. Are the recipes good? Sometimes. > I liked the drawings on the back covers. That is really the only thing > I miss. > > > Boron Thanks fyi. I just 2 days ago threw out an advert for a subscription with the free grater. I decided I like the idea of the whole green books in years 2000, 2001, etc. But, so far I've not bought one. Watching ATK I've not noticed him talking about rural life, tho. Vermont might be the 'in place' to be rural. I had a rich cousin retire there. Brrrhhh! Dee Dee 'Commonwealth' of Virginia "Rural" Shenandoah Valley Tee Hee |
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On 2006-02-08, Boron Elgar > wrote:
> invoice and after many letters and phone calls, they threatened to > send it to collection. Pompous Bow-tie Man is a businessman. He's a journalism graduate and his whole purpose is to build a media empire. So far he's right on schedule. Cooking is just his subject of choice because of its universal appeal. I notice he's taken steps to hide this basic fact by almost completely eliminating any information about his past life on the web. He does't give a crap if your hollandaise sauce breaks. He wants your money. nb |
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"notbob" > wrote in message . .. > On 2006-02-08, Boron Elgar > wrote: > >> invoice and after many letters and phone calls, they threatened to >> send it to collection. > > Pompous Bow-tie Man is a businessman. He's a journalism graduate and > his whole purpose is to build a media empire. So far he's right on > schedule. Cooking is just his subject of choice because of its > universal appeal. I notice he's taken steps to hide this basic fact > by almost completely eliminating any information about his past life > on the web. He does't give a crap if your hollandaise sauce breaks. > He wants your money. > > nb Go to the front of the line, nb. Thanks, Dee Dee |
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"timbrel" > wrote: > I was a charter subscriber to cooks and to the email newsletter. I cut > out the paper issues because I couldn't stand Chris Kimball's holier > than thou articles about rural living. I liked the email because it > gave me access to the online version where I could ignore the > editorials. Now the latest email contains a "delightful" few paragraphs > on the joy of hunting! Wish I could boycott the whole magazine except > it does have good cooking stuff. Anyone else feel the same way! And > they never respond to negative letters, take it from me. > > Bliss I actually quit both the magazine and on-line subscription. I honestly don't miss it. I found that more than half the time my idea of what makes something the best is quite different from theirs. Our of those recipes where we agreed many of them didn't work for me or taste as I wished in the end. I have far greater success with Fine Cooking and I don't have to read about walks in the woods or fly fishing. marcella |
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timbrel wrote:
> I was a charter subscriber to cooks and to the email newsletter. I cut > out the paper issues because I couldn't stand Chris Kimball's holier > than thou articles about rural living. I liked the email because it > gave me access to the online version where I could ignore the > editorials. Now the latest email contains a "delightful" few paragraphs > on the joy of hunting! Wish I could boycott the whole magazine except > it does have good cooking stuff. Anyone else feel the same way! And > they never respond to negative letters, take it from me. > Since I haven't seen the magazine, paper or e-version, for a while I don't understand what you're getting at. Did they publish a pro-hunting letter, or was it an article? In any case, why does it generate such a response? Is it that you don't like hunting? I don't read any magazines that I agree with 100% word for word and I find it really easy to skip things that I don't like. What keeps you from just reading the good cooking stuff -- it used to be quite good. -aem |
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>I don't read any magazines that I agree with 100% word for word and I
>find it really easy to skip things that I don't like. What keeps you >from just reading the good cooking stuff -- it used to be quite good. >-aem I get C.I... I like C.I and I bypass the Prairie Home Companion- Garrison Kieller wannabee parts. Big damn deal! So you have to turn a whole extra page to avoid it... if anyone's going to bitch about that, they got some much deeper issues than a hunting or makin' cheese back on the farm story. And regarding those cooking books?! Here's an idea... you know they're not free and they're going to keep sending them to you until you tell them to stop. Anyone with half-a-brain knows that the whole "try before you buy- send it back if you don't like it", is just a means to get you hooked. If you didn't want the book... don't open the packaging and write "return to sender" and leave it in your mailbox. Don't bitch about being seduced into opening the box and then whining 'cause it's a hassle to then return it or discontinue your membership. Hell... we've all been hooked by BMG music at one time or another... lesson learned, duh. Anyway.. this is my last posting, so I figured I may as well go out with a bang. I should've known what to expect back after my first posting about a pineapple martini and the repurcussions of having my head chewed off by the intolerant, idiot martini purist in the bunch. So, to those few of you who I've enjoyed discussing cooking and sharing recipes with I say in the words of Alton Brown, "Good Eats!" And to those intolerant, inconsiderate, self-rightous few who's sole purpose for posting is to belittle and instigate argument, I say in my own words, "may you choke on your next bite and may the parasites and bacteria of a thousand raw chickens infest your bowels." Kev |
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Kev, that was my point about my criticism of CI. I like discussing
cooking, I don't want to wade through the glorification of country life and its "values" to get at the cooking. I don't want to open an email expecting cooking and find a rhapsody about hunting (or even something I might love if its not cooking). I find Kimball's stuff a sublte putdown of the rest of us out there. I posted here to see if I was the only one who was annoyed by it. Not to instigate argument etc. I didn't read your post about pineapple martini so I can't comment. Sorry I pushed you over the edge, I tend to be the live and let live type, as long as I'm not put down for my own views on cooking, or anything else. |
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On 8 Feb 2006 05:09:18 -0800, "timbrel" > wrote:
>I was a charter subscriber to cooks and to the email newsletter. I cut >out the paper issues because I couldn't stand Chris Kimball's holier >than thou articles about rural living. I liked the email because it >gave me access to the online version where I could ignore the >editorials. Now the latest email contains a "delightful" few paragraphs >on the joy of hunting! Wish I could boycott the whole magazine except >it does have good cooking stuff. Anyone else feel the same way! And >they never respond to negative letters, take it from me. > >Bliss The walk in the woods and noble yeoman schtick don't bother me that much, but I am getting more and more tired of the approach to some of the recipes. My most recent grouse was the current issue's article on lamb. The notion of separating a leg of lamb into "mini-roasts" is OK, though it likely means that I get less rare lamb and that, for me is not a good thing. What got me was that far too many places in both the main article and the secondary one, they kept harping on "gamy taste, gamy taste, gamy taste". It seems to me that if one does not LIKE lamb, one should cook something else. From what I could tell, the objective was lamb indistinguishable from young, corn-fed, unaged, beef. That is to say as near to tasteless as possible. That refrain of let's make "stuff" only lets leave out anything that either takes more than an hour to do or tastes distinctive. |
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On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 10:09:42 -0500, Boron Elgar
> connected the dots and wrote: ~On 8 Feb 2006 05:09:18 -0800, "timbrel" > wrote: ~ ~>I was a charter subscriber to cooks and to the email newsletter. I cut ~>out the paper issues because I couldn't stand Chris Kimball's holier ~>than thou articles about rural living. I liked the email because it ~>gave me access to the online version where I could ignore the ~>editorials. Now the latest email contains a "delightful" few paragraphs ~>on the joy of hunting! Wish I could boycott the whole magazine except ~>it does have good cooking stuff. Anyone else feel the same way! And ~>they never respond to negative letters, take it from me. ~> ~>Bliss ~ ~ ~I agree. I even tried just subscribing for online access to escape ~Kimball. His "folksy" wisdom makes my skin crawl. Watching him on TV ~gives me the same reaction it does some about Sandra Lee. Only she has ~better boobs, though I guess he could buy a pair the same place she ~did. ~ ~When I had some difficulties accessing "special features" online last ~year, I got such a runaround of nonsense and misinformation that I did ~not renew the subscription online, either. ~ ~Years ago I had trouble with their paper subscription when they sent ~me 3 back issues instead of starting my sub with the newest issue. ~That took 4 months to settle when I wrote "cancel" on their first ~invoice and after many letters and phone calls, they threatened to ~send it to collection. I told them to go on and do it. I never heard ~back after that. Granted, that is likely a service they use, and not ~the magazine personnel, themselves. ~ ~Are the articles helpful? Sometimes. Are the recipes good? Sometimes. ~I liked the drawings on the back covers. That is really the only thing ~I miss. ~ ~ ~Boron My sister can't stand Cooks, but she loves Taunton Press's Fine Cooking (I think that's the name of it). Says the recipes are as good or better, and she prefers the photos to the illustrations. She ordered 2 books for a gift for me, and when they hadn't arrived in three weeks, wrote or called to complain. They sent her an extra copy of one of the books. maxine in ri |
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