GODDAMMIT
Clear the ice from your sidewalks people! Shovel, scrape, icemelt, whatever, I
don't care! Just get the ice off your sidewalk.

2 times on one block I slipped and fell on my knees while walking the dogs
tonight. Twice! There was just enough powdery snow to cover the ground so I
couldn't see the sidewalk.

I now have 2 scraped up, throbbing knees and I'm ****ed off. I swear, if they
don't have that ice cleared tomorrow I'm gonna go up to one house and cram a
shovel up their ass and go to the other and shove a bag of icemelt up there.




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The city I'm from fines people who don't clear their walks.

Barry Smyth wrote:
> The city I'm from fines people who don't clear their walks.
>

same here...
I should call.

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On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 05:10:21 GMT, The Bubbo wrote:

> GODDAMMIT
> Clear the ice from your sidewalks people! Shovel, scrape, icemelt, whatever, I
> don't care! Just get the ice off your sidewalk.
>
> 2 times on one block I slipped and fell on my knees while walking the dogs
> tonight. Twice! There was just enough powdery snow to cover the ground so I
> couldn't see the sidewalk.
>
> I now have 2 scraped up, throbbing knees and I'm ****ed off. I swear, if they
> don't have that ice cleared tomorrow I'm gonna go up to one house and cram a
> shovel up their ass and go to the other and shove a bag of icemelt up there.

Oh, I'm sorry you hurt! This is just another reason why I don't live
where it snows.
--

Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 05:10:21 GMT, The Bubbo wrote:
>
> > GODDAMMIT
> > Clear the ice from your sidewalks people! Shovel, scrape, icemelt,
whatever, I
> > don't care! Just get the ice off your sidewalk.
> >
> > 2 times on one block I slipped and fell on my knees while walking the
dogs
> > tonight. Twice! There was just enough powdery snow to cover the ground
so I
> > couldn't see the sidewalk.
> >
> > I now have 2 scraped up, throbbing knees and I'm ****ed off. I swear,
if they
> > don't have that ice cleared tomorrow I'm gonna go up to one house and
cram a
> > shovel up their ass and go to the other and shove a bag of icemelt up
there.
>
> Oh, I'm sorry you hurt! This is just another reason why I don't live
> where it snows.
> --

Me too! I was kind of like, what, ice? Huh? Then I realized most people
don't live where it's warmer. I had to chuckle to myself. I forget
sometimes!

kili

"The Bubbo" > wrote

(laughing) I was just having an ice rant of my own, I thought you
were feeling my pain, but your's was worse. Stupid ice trays,
but at least it doesn't hurt anyone.

> GODDAMMIT
> Clear the ice from your sidewalks people! Shovel, scrape, icemelt,
> whatever, I
> don't care! Just get the ice off your sidewalk.

That's rough. Man, I can't do my own driveway, last winter you'da
been SOL if you walked in front of my house. Having said that, we
don't have sidewalks.

I don't know how older people are supposed to clear their walks. I
have a whole new appreciation.

> 2 times on one block I slipped and fell on my knees while walking the dogs
> tonight. Twice! There was just enough powdery snow to cover the ground so
> I
> couldn't see the sidewalk.

Apparently from the morning news, there is a serious black ice issue
out there this morning, where I live. Accident city.

> I now have 2 scraped up, throbbing knees and I'm ****ed off. I swear, if
> they
> don't have that ice cleared tomorrow I'm gonna go up to one house and cram
> a
> shovel up their ass and go to the other and shove a bag of icemelt up
> there.

Please don't get badly hurt. Get those ice things you strap to your
shoes (laugh) ... or some knees pads. Or a dogwalker.

nancy

"kilikini" > wrote in
:

> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Oh, I'm sorry you hurt! This is just another reason why I don't
>> live where it snows.
>> --
> Me too! I was kind of like, what, ice? Huh? Then I realized
> most people don't live where it's warmer. I had to chuckle to
> myself. I forget sometimes!

You miss quite a bit then. We had a moderate snowfall on Friday and
this was what the street looked like on Sunday.

http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9624.JPG
http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9625.JPG
http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9626.JPG
http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9627.JPG

That is of course exceptional (which is the reason why I took the
photos in the first place).

--

"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why
the poor have no food, they call me a communist."

Dom Helder Camara

On Tue 24 Jan 2006 05:55:54a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Michel
Boucher?

> "kilikini" > wrote in
> :
>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Oh, I'm sorry you hurt! This is just another reason why I don't
>>> live where it snows. --
>> Me too! I was kind of like, what, ice? Huh? Then I realized
>> most people don't live where it's warmer. I had to chuckle to myself.
>> I forget sometimes!
>
> You miss quite a bit then. We had a moderate snowfall on Friday and
> this was what the street looked like on Sunday.
>
> http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9624.JPG
> http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9625.JPG
> http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9626.JPG
> http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9627.JPG
>
> That is of course exceptional (which is the reason why I took the
> photos in the first place).
>

It's beautiful, Michel, but I'm glad it's there and not here. :-) I
remember some winters like that when I lived in Cleveland, OH.

--
Wayne Boatwright Õ¿Õ¬
________________________________________

Okay, okay, I take it back! UnScrew you!

"Nancy Young" > wrote

> Please don't get badly hurt. Get those ice things you strap to your
> shoes

I swear on whatever, DH Hughley (sp) just pulled a pair
of those out on Regis. The show, not the guy.

nancy

Steve Wertz wrote:
> On 23 Jan 2006 21:12:55 -0800, "Barry Smyth"
> > wrote:
>
>>The city I'm from fines people who don't clear their walks.
>
> The city I'm from better clear the public sidewalks because the
> homeowners sure as hell ain't gonna do it. They salty the roads,
> they can salt the sidewalks, too.
>
> I never heard of keeping your public right-of-way sidewalk free of
> ice, let alone getting fined for it.
>
> -sw

It's the law in minneapolis, you're responsible for the sidewalks. You have to
keep them clear and free of ice and snow.

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Nancy Young wrote:
>
> "The Bubbo" > wrote
>
> (laughing) I was just having an ice rant of my own, I thought you
> were feeling my pain, but your's was worse. Stupid ice trays,
> but at least it doesn't hurt anyone.
>
>> GODDAMMIT
>> Clear the ice from your sidewalks people! Shovel, scrape, icemelt,
>> whatever, I
>> don't care! Just get the ice off your sidewalk.
>
> That's rough. Man, I can't do my own driveway, last winter you'da
> been SOL if you walked in front of my house. Having said that, we
> don't have sidewalks.
>
> I don't know how older people are supposed to clear their walks. I
> have a whole new appreciation.
>

I don't know about other cities, but minneapolis has a program that the
elderly can call and set up shoveling service in the winter and basic lawn
maintenance in the summer. I think it's at a super low fee or something.

>> 2 times on one block I slipped and fell on my knees while walking the dogs
>> tonight. Twice! There was just enough powdery snow to cover the ground so
>> I
>> couldn't see the sidewalk.
>
> Apparently from the morning news, there is a serious black ice issue
> out there this morning, where I live. Accident city.
>
>> I now have 2 scraped up, throbbing knees and I'm ****ed off. I swear, if
>> they
>> don't have that ice cleared tomorrow I'm gonna go up to one house and cram
>> a
>> shovel up their ass and go to the other and shove a bag of icemelt up
>> there.
>
> Please don't get badly hurt. Get those ice things you strap to your
> shoes (laugh) ... or some knees pads. Or a dogwalker.
>
> nancy
>
>

A lady at the dog park had some of those on. The dog park itself has turned
into one solid sheet of ice from one end to the other and I have to call on my
SUPER PENGUIN POWER to walk there.

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www.velvet-c.com
Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

"The Bubbo" > wrote

> It's the law in minneapolis, you're responsible for the sidewalks. You
> have to
> keep them clear and free of ice and snow.

Same in my town. If you have a sidewalk, you have to maintain
it, including ice and snow removal, in a timely fashion, too.

nancy

Michel Boucher wrote:
> "kilikini" > wrote in
> :
>
> > "sf" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Oh, I'm sorry you hurt! This is just another reason why I don't
> >> live where it snows.
> >> --
> > Me too! I was kind of like, what, ice? Huh? Then I realized
> > most people don't live where it's warmer. I had to chuckle to
> > myself. I forget sometimes!
>
> You miss quite a bit then. We had a moderate snowfall on Friday and
> this was what the street looked like on Sunday.
>
> http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9624.JPG
> http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9625.JPG
> http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9626.JPG
> http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9627.JPG
>
> That is of course exceptional (which is the reason why I took the
> photos in the first place).

I notice that folks in your neck of the woods do shovel their walkways.
by 2 days after a snowfall, it looks pretty dreadful around here.
your neighborhood looks lovely.

maxine in ri

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:06:54 -0500, "Nancy Young"
> wrote:

>
>"The Bubbo" > wrote
>
>(laughing) I was just having an ice rant of my own, I thought you
>were feeling my pain, but your's was worse. Stupid ice trays,
>but at least it doesn't hurt anyone.
>

>Please don't get badly hurt. Get those ice things you strap to your
>shoes (laugh) ... or some knees pads. Or a dogwalker.
>
>nancy
>
Or... even though I AM a animal lover... While the weather is bad..
let the dogs **** and shit in your own yard..
That way you don't have to worry about other peoples sidewalks..
It doesn't matter much this time of year.. but during the spring and
summer, having dead flowers and urine burnt grass..
(I don't think they've developed a way to "pick up" the urine yet..)

I wouldn't mind ONE or TWO dogs paying a visit... but once one dog
leaves his email... all others want to send a reply....
But then again.. I'd rather you bring the dogs by than let the kids
run loose.. (humm I wonder if we can get a leash law for KIDS)
Chuck (in SC)

Steve Wertz wrote:
> On 23 Jan 2006 21:12:55 -0800, "Barry Smyth"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>The city I'm from fines people who don't clear their walks.
>
>
> The city I'm from better clear the public sidewalks because the
> homeowners sure as hell ain't gonna do it. They salty the roads,
> they can salt the sidewalks, too.
>
> I never heard of keeping your public right-of-way sidewalk free of
> ice, let alone getting fined for it.
>
> -sw

Thats how it works in every location I know. You don't own it but you
have to maintain it. Typically they also pass laws that a fine will be
assessed if it isn't cleared so many hours after the snowfall.

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:45:15 GMT, Chuck > wrote:

>On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:06:54 -0500, "Nancy Young"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"The Bubbo" > wrote
>>
>>(laughing) I was just having an ice rant of my own, I thought you
>>were feeling my pain, but your's was worse. Stupid ice trays,
>>but at least it doesn't hurt anyone.
>>
>
>>Please don't get badly hurt. Get those ice things you strap to your
>>shoes (laugh) ... or some knees pads. Or a dogwalker.
>>
>>nancy
>>
>Or... even though I AM a animal lover... While the weather is bad..
>let the dogs **** and shit in your own yard..
>That way you don't have to worry about other peoples sidewalks..
>It doesn't matter much this time of year.. but during the spring and
>summer, having dead flowers and urine burnt grass..
>(I don't think they've developed a way to "pick up" the urine yet..)
>
>I wouldn't mind ONE or TWO dogs paying a visit... but once one dog
>leaves his email... all others want to send a reply....
>But then again.. I'd rather you bring the dogs by than let the kids
>run loose.. (humm I wonder if we can get a leash law for KIDS)
>Chuck (in SC)
And yes.. If you get to rant,, I get to rant!
Chuck (in SC)

The Bubbo wrote:
> GODDAMMIT
> Clear the ice from your sidewalks people! Shovel, scrape, icemelt, whatever, I
> don't care! Just get the ice off your sidewalk.

Did anyone ever stop to consider the possibility that an elderly
person/couple may live in some of these homes of which you complain?
So you say: "hire someone to clean it up!!"
Perhaps due to rediculously high heating cost, those who physically
can't shovel their walks also can't afford to pay someone to do it.
How about taking a walk through your neighborhood and find out WHY
people aren't shovelling their walks instead of calling the law on
them. GODDAMMIT!! Kev

maxine in ri a écrit :

> I notice that folks in your neck of the woods do shovel their walkways.
> by 2 days after a snowfall, it looks pretty dreadful around here.

Actually, the city does it, with small sidewalk removal vehicles and
later with large ploughs. Here is the city schedule and we don't get
as much snow as Québec (city) does.

http://ottawa.ca/city_services/traff...dards_en.shtml

Residential sidewalks are ploughed after 16 hours following a 5 cm (2
in.) accumulation. Some years ago, this schedule was non-existent and
consequently snow accumulation was a danger to all. One year, I fell
four times trying to get to the bus. Now, it's only if there's
freezing ice that the sidewalks are dangerous and they will spread sand
if it doesn't melt because of the weather.

> your neighborhood looks lovely.

Centretown in Ottawa. One of the few inhabited city cores in North
America.

Michel Boucher wrote:

>
> > Me too! I was kind of like, what, ice? Huh? Then I realized
> > most people don't live where it's warmer. I had to chuckle to
> > myself. I forget sometimes!
>
> You miss quite a bit then. We had a moderate snowfall on Friday and
> this was what the street looked like on Sunday.
>
> http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9624.JPG
> http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9625.JPG
> http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9626.JPG
> http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9627.JPG
>
> That is of course exceptional (which is the reason why I took the
> photos in the first place).
>

Around here you are required to clear your sidewalks within a certain
amount of time and to keep them clear of ice and snow. I don't really
understand that because sidewalks are on city property, but they make
the adjacent property owner liable. My brother lives on a short
circle. There is really no need to even have sidewalks, but the city put
one in along his side of the road and it goes only as far as his
property. So when it snows or gets icy he and the other three homeowners
with the walk are responsible for cleaning it. Meanwhile, living on a
circle, their street is at the bottom of the list of priority for
cleaning. It is possible for them to be charged for not clearing the
sidewalk on a street that has not been plowed. That sucks.

People are funny about clearing snow. I used to live in a fourplex
apartment that shared a double driveway with the fourplex next door. I
was the only one who every shovelled the driveway. Of course I only
shovelled our half. No one did the other side. And then the girls
upstairs would park in the part that I had cleared.

I know live on an opened road allowance. It is about 100 feet from my
parking area to the main road. My neighbour lives about 300 feet further
back. I have a 12 horse snow blower. He has a tractor mounted snow
blower. That SOB will never get out and clear the road allowance first.
He has to go past my place to the road to turn around, and with a
tractor like that we are talking an extra 5-10 seconds each way. I go
out and clean out my parking area and the road allowance from there to
the road, and like clockwork, as I am finishing he comes out with his
tractor.

"kevnbro" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> The Bubbo wrote:
>> GODDAMMIT
>> Clear the ice from your sidewalks people! Shovel, scrape, icemelt,
>> whatever, I
>> don't care! Just get the ice off your sidewalk.
>
> Did anyone ever stop to consider the possibility that an elderly
> person/couple may live in some of these homes of which you complain?
> So you say: "hire someone to clean it up!!"
> Perhaps due to rediculously high heating cost, those who physically
> can't shovel their walks also can't afford to pay someone to do it.
> How about taking a walk through your neighborhood and find out WHY
> people aren't shovelling their walks instead of calling the law on
> them. GODDAMMIT!! Kev
>

The responsibility for clearing sidewalks depends on where you live. In some
places the city or town does it, in others it is the homeowner's. Owning a
home comes with responsibilities, and clearing the sidewalk may be one of
them. Would you be content to suffer a serious injury because someone
ignored their responsibility - even if for a good reason?


--
Peter Aitken

In article >,
"Peter Aitken" > wrote:

> "kevnbro" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >
> > The Bubbo wrote:
> >> GODDAMMIT
> >> Clear the ice from your sidewalks people! Shovel, scrape, icemelt,
> >> whatever, I
> >> don't care! Just get the ice off your sidewalk.
> >
> > Did anyone ever stop to consider the possibility that an elderly
> > person/couple may live in some of these homes of which you complain?
> > So you say: "hire someone to clean it up!!"
> > Perhaps due to rediculously high heating cost, those who physically
> > can't shovel their walks also can't afford to pay someone to do it.
> > How about taking a walk through your neighborhood and find out WHY
> > people aren't shovelling their walks instead of calling the law on
> > them. GODDAMMIT!! Kev
> >
>
> The responsibility for clearing sidewalks depends on where you live. In some
> places the city or town does it, in others it is the homeowner's. Owning a
> home comes with responsibilities, and clearing the sidewalk may be one of
> them. Would you be content to suffer a serious injury because someone
> ignored their responsibility - even if for a good reason?

Could not you just scatter lots of rock salt on the ice after sweeping
off the snow?
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

Peter Aitken wrote:
> The responsibility for clearing sidewalks depends on where you live. In some
> places the city or town does it, in others it is the homeowner's. Owning a
> home comes with responsibilities, and clearing the sidewalk may be one of
> them. Would you be content to suffer a serious injury because someone
> ignored their responsibility - even if for a good reason?
>

> Peter Aitken

First, my eyes function well enought to be able to spot an ice hazard
when I walk.
Second, i'm intelligent enough to know that I stand to benefit from a
civil conversation regarding the issue as opposed to ratting to the
police from the comfort of my livingroom which will do nothing but
alienate and anger the people I have to live with as neighbors.
But hey, they're not my neighbors so go ahead and report them to the
authorities- sure, you'll get an iceless sidewalk for the remainder of
Winter but you'll gain an iced-up neighbor year round. kev

"Michel Boucher" > wrote in message
...
> "kilikini" > wrote in
> :
>
> > "sf" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Oh, I'm sorry you hurt! This is just another reason why I don't
> >> live where it snows.
> >> --
> > Me too! I was kind of like, what, ice? Huh? Then I realized
> > most people don't live where it's warmer. I had to chuckle to
> > myself. I forget sometimes!
>
> You miss quite a bit then. We had a moderate snowfall on Friday and
> this was what the street looked like on Sunday.
>
> http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9624.JPG
> http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9625.JPG
> http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9626.JPG
> http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9627.JPG
>

It's beautiful, but I wouldn't want to live in it. :~)

kili

Michel Boucher wrote:
> "kilikini" > wrote in
> :
>
> > "sf" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Oh, I'm sorry you hurt! This is just another reason why I don't
> >> live where it snows.
> >> --
> > Me too! I was kind of like, what, ice? Huh? Then I realized
> > most people don't live where it's warmer. I had to chuckle to
> > myself. I forget sometimes!
>
> You miss quite a bit then. We had a moderate snowfall on Friday and
> this was what the street looked like on Sunday.
>
> http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9624.JPG
> http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9625.JPG
> http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9626.JPG
> http://alsandor.net/photos/hiver/DSCN9627.JPG
>
> That is of course exceptional (which is the reason why I took the
> photos in the first place).

The Glebe ?

John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

"kevnbro" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Peter Aitken wrote:
>> The responsibility for clearing sidewalks depends on where you live. In
>> some
>> places the city or town does it, in others it is the homeowner's. Owning
>> a
>> home comes with responsibilities, and clearing the sidewalk may be one of
>> them. Would you be content to suffer a serious injury because someone
>> ignored their responsibility - even if for a good reason?
>>
>
>> Peter Aitken
>
> First, my eyes function well enought to be able to spot an ice hazard
> when I walk.

It was stated in the OP that the ice was covered by a recent dusting of snow
and therefore not visible.

> Second, i'm intelligent enough to know that I stand to benefit from a
> civil conversation regarding the issue as opposed to ratting to the
> police from the comfort of my livingroom which will do nothing but
> alienate and anger the people I have to live with as neighbors.

Agreed. You can haul yourself over there in your wheelchair and nicely
explain to your irresponsible neighbors that you would really prefer not to
break your back again on their icy sidewalk, if they don't mind, thank you
so much.

> But hey, they're not my neighbors so go ahead and report them to the
> authorities- sure, you'll get an iceless sidewalk for the remainder of
> Winter but you'll gain an iced-up neighbor year round. kev

Sometimes the authorities is the best way. The offender is never told who
complained so there is no personal animosity (you are so intelligent, as you
tell us, I am surprised you did not know this). The complaint comes across
impersonally and professionally. What's wrong with that?


--
Peter Aitken


>



--
Peter Aitken
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The Bubbo wrote:
> GODDAMMIT
> Clear the ice from your sidewalks people! Shovel, scrape, icemelt, whatever, I
> don't care! Just get the ice off your sidewalk.
>
> 2 times on one block I slipped and fell on my knees while walking the dogs
> tonight. Twice! There was just enough powdery snow to cover the ground so I
> couldn't see the sidewalk.
>

Let me get this straight.

You fell on someone's icy sidewalk while
taking your dogs to defecate in someone
else's yard?

Karma's a bitch.

gloria p

Nancy Young wrote:

> "The Bubbo" > wrote
>
>
>>It's the law in minneapolis, you're responsible for the sidewalks. You
>>have to
>>keep them clear and free of ice and snow.
>
>
> Same in my town. If you have a sidewalk, you have to maintain
> it, including ice and snow removal, in a timely fashion, too.
>
> nancy
>
>
Rural areas here are maintained by the municipality or county. Private
laneways are the homeowners responsibility. In urban areas the
sidewalks even though public must be cleared by the resident. Failure
to do so will result in fines and/or clearance by the municipality with
the clearance costs tacked onto your taxes. Mail carriers can refuse to
deliver mail to residences with uncleared pathways and utility companies
can estimate bills rather than read the metre which can cause higher
than normal bills at some point.

>Sometimes the authorities is the best way. The offender is never told who
>complained so there is no personal animosity (you are so intelligent, as you
>tell us, I am surprised you did not know this). The complaint comes across
>impersonally and professionally. What's wrong with that?

Yes, i'm sure the "offender" won't have a clue who ratted on them when
on the day after the sidewalk is cleared, the "rattee" is making their
victory dog-walk down the offensive sidewalk and allowing their dogs to
shit an **** in the offender's yard should the urge arise.
Nah... they won't have a clue. K

The Bubbo wrote:
> GODDAMMIT
> Clear the ice from your sidewalks people! Shovel, scrape, icemelt,
> whatever, I don't care! Just get the ice off your sidewalk.
>
> 2 times on one block I slipped and fell on my knees while walking the
> dogs tonight. Twice! There was just enough powdery snow to cover the
> ground so I couldn't see the sidewalk.
>
> I now have 2 scraped up, throbbing knees and I'm ****ed off. I swear,
> if they don't have that ice cleared tomorrow I'm gonna go up to one
> house and cram a shovel up their ass and go to the other and shove a
> bag of icemelt up there.

We rarely get ice in the Memphis area but if we do, it's one hell of an ice
storm. Haven't had a big one since 1994 but I keep rock salt on hand.
Lovely when everything ices over and tree limbs are cracking and falling
down and you can't drive unless you have blades on your tires. They don't
sell snow tires down here and forget about chains. Uh uh, nope.

Jill

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 18:07:50 GMT, Puester >
wrote:

>The Bubbo wrote:
>> GODDAMMIT
>> Clear the ice from your sidewalks people! Shovel, scrape, icemelt, whatever, I
>> don't care! Just get the ice off your sidewalk.
>>
>> 2 times on one block I slipped and fell on my knees while walking the dogs
>> tonight. Twice! There was just enough powdery snow to cover the ground so I
>> couldn't see the sidewalk.
>>
>
>Let me get this straight.
>
>You fell on someone's icy sidewalk while
>taking your dogs to defecate in someone
>else's yard?
>
>Karma's a bitch.
>

From another post, I thought she was walking her dog to the dog park.
But even if that's not the case, it's possible she is a responsible
owner and picks up after her dog. Dogs also need exercise and
stimulation.

There are numerous excuses why individuals might not be able to take
care of a snowy/icy sidewalk right away, once in a while. But if they
ignore it on a routine basis, they should be fined and it's not a good
sign if several homes on the same block ignore snow/ice removal. It's
a responsibility one takes on when you own a home in a snowbelt.

Sue(tm)
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Peter Aitken wrote:
>[snip]
> Sometimes the authorities is the best way. The offender is never told who
> complained so there is no personal animosity (you are so intelligent, as you
> tell us, I am surprised you did not know this). The complaint comes across
> impersonally and professionally. What's wrong with that?
>
I have lived in places with icy winters several times. The usual
approach to this situation was different from what's been discussed
here. Neighbors would call neighbors and say, "I'm going out to clean
my sidewalk, you want me to do yours?" Or, "I'm hiring a high school
kid to get the ice off the sidewalk, you want to go in with me?"
People who live in harsh climates have a greater need to cooperate with
one another and reap greater benefits from cooperation. -aem

" > wrote
in ups.com:

>> That is of course exceptional (which is the reason why I took the
>> photos in the first place).
>
> The Glebe ?

Centretown. As the t-shirt says: I do NOT live in the Glebe!

:-)

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the poor have no food, they call me a communist."

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In article >,
says...
> GODDAMMIT
> Clear the ice from your sidewalks people! Shovel, scrape, icemelt, whatever, I
> don't care! Just get the ice off your sidewalk.
>
> 2 times on one block I slipped and fell on my knees while walking the dogs
> tonight. Twice! There was just enough powdery snow to cover the ground so I
> couldn't see the sidewalk.
>
> I now have 2 scraped up, throbbing knees and I'm ****ed off. I swear, if they
> don't have that ice cleared tomorrow I'm gonna go up to one house and cram a
> shovel up their ass and go to the other and shove a bag of icemelt up there.

What irks me is that the City of Providence has an ordinance on the
books that states that sidewalks MUST be cleared within a short time
period after a storm.

The biggest offender is the city itself.

In article .com>,
says...
> The city I'm from fines people who don't clear their walks.
>
>

Do they actually fine them, or is the law just on the books and never
enforced.

Providence ordinance Article 1 Section 23-13 to 23-17

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
...
>
> Could not you just scatter lots of rock salt on the ice after sweeping
> off the snow?

That's what I was wondering. I grew up in an area that got snow and ice in
winter (PA), and I remember people scattering salt all over the streets and
sidewalks to melt the ice.

Mary--who'll gladly take Houston summers over PA winters anytime

Chuck wrote:

> Or... even though I AM a animal lover... While the weather is bad..
> let the dogs **** and shit in your own yard..
> That way you don't have to worry about other peoples sidewalks..
> It doesn't matter much this time of year.. but during the spring and
> summer, having dead flowers and urine burnt grass..
> (I don't think they've developed a way to "pick up" the urine yet..)
>
> I wouldn't mind ONE or TWO dogs paying a visit... but once one dog
> leaves his email... all others want to send a reply....
> But then again.. I'd rather you bring the dogs by than let the kids
> run loose.. (humm I wonder if we can get a leash law for KIDS)
> Chuck (in SC)

There are nights that I would really rather not walk the dogs, but if I don't
then Ghengis will drive me mad with excess energy and Maddie will be confused
by the change in routine. For whatever reason, she won't poop in the yard, we
have to walk. And if she doesn't poop at her appointed time (she's way into
schedules) she'll poop in the house when I'm at work.

I guess, ultimately, I don't mind. I just wish people would clear their walks.

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kevnbro wrote:
>
> The Bubbo wrote:
>> GODDAMMIT
>> Clear the ice from your sidewalks people! Shovel, scrape, icemelt,
whatever, I
>> don't care! Just get the ice off your sidewalk.
>
> Did anyone ever stop to consider the possibility that an elderly
> person/couple may live in some of these homes of which you complain?
> So you say: "hire someone to clean it up!!"
> Perhaps due to rediculously high heating cost, those who physically
> can't shovel their walks also can't afford to pay someone to do it.
> How about taking a walk through your neighborhood and find out WHY
> people aren't shovelling their walks instead of calling the law on
> them. GODDAMMIT!! Kev
>

Actually, I looked it up today and the city offers a super low cost service
for the elderly and disable AND there were at least 3 volunteer community
organizations that will do it for free.

BUT, these people live on the other side of the alley from me, I know who they
are and they are not elderly nor are they disabled. They just didn't clear the
ice from the walk, thus making walking extremely painful for me today. I do
know my neighbors.

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kevnbro wrote:
>
> Peter Aitken wrote:
>> The responsibility for clearing sidewalks depends on where you live. In
some
>> places the city or town does it, in others it is the homeowner's. Owning a
>> home comes with responsibilities, and clearing the sidewalk may be one of
>> them. Would you be content to suffer a serious injury because someone
>> ignored their responsibility - even if for a good reason?
>>
>
>> Peter Aitken
>
> First, my eyes function well enought to be able to spot an ice hazard
> when I walk.
> Second, i'm intelligent enough to know that I stand to benefit from a
> civil conversation regarding the issue as opposed to ratting to the
> police from the comfort of my livingroom which will do nothing but
> alienate and anger the people I have to live with as neighbors.
> But hey, they're not my neighbors so go ahead and report them to the
> authorities- sure, you'll get an iceless sidewalk for the remainder of
> Winter but you'll gain an iced-up neighbor year round. kev
>

While I did not mention this in the original post, both of these houses are
houses that regularly do not shovel the sidewalk. Normally it's just a pain to
walk on those sections, but with the shifting back and forth from cold to warm
to cold it became an ice sheet that was then covered by snow. I did not see
the ice, the previous lumpiness of the sections had disappeared and the rest
of the sidewalks were clear but for the puff of new snow.

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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

>>
>> The responsibility for clearing sidewalks depends on where you live. In
some
>> places the city or town does it, in others it is the homeowner's. Owning a
>> home comes with responsibilities, and clearing the sidewalk may be one of
>> them. Would you be content to suffer a serious injury because someone
>> ignored their responsibility - even if for a good reason?
>
> Could not you just scatter lots of rock salt on the ice after sweeping
> off the snow?

also the city offers free sand to help with icy sidewalks!

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kevnbro wrote:
>>Sometimes the authorities is the best way. The offender is never told who
>>complained so there is no personal animosity (you are so intelligent, as you
>>tell us, I am surprised you did not know this). The complaint comes across
>>impersonally and professionally. What's wrong with that?
>
> Yes, i'm sure the "offender" won't have a clue who ratted on them when
> on the day after the sidewalk is cleared, the "rattee" is making their
> victory dog-walk down the offensive sidewalk and allowing their dogs to
> shit an **** in the offender's yard should the urge arise.
> Nah... they won't have a clue. K
>

My dogs crap on the boulevard, thank you very much. Besides, all these yards
are sloped and have retaining walls, it's be quite the production to get two
short attention span dogs to do anything on cue.

It's not about victory, it's about taking responsibility so that people don't
fall and injure themselves.

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