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![]() zxcvbob wrote: > http://www.liquidgeneration.com/sabo...pkin_carve.asp I don't carve my pumpkins. After Halloween I put them outside. Here's why: http://tinypic.com/el75lh.jpg Sheldon |
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Sheldon wrote:
> zxcvbob wrote: >> http://www.liquidgeneration.com/sabo...pkin_carve.asp > > I don't carve my pumpkins. > After Halloween I put them outside. > Here's why: http://tinypic.com/el75lh.jpg > > Sheldon And the squirrels say "Good Eats!" ![]() Jill |
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On 15 Oct 2005 19:18:42 -0700, Sheldon wrote:
> > zxcvbob wrote: > > http://www.liquidgeneration.com/sabo...pkin_carve.asp > > I don't carve my pumpkins. > After Halloween I put them outside. > Here's why: http://tinypic.com/el75lh.jpg > Kids are getting meaner these days. Usually they wait until Halloween night to smash pumpkins. We had 2 uncarved pumpkins (outside) by the front door and someone smashed the "baby" one Friday night. My grandson is only 4 and very excited about pumpkins (not Halloween yet). It was a mean spirited thing to do. I took the remaining one inside. Too bad. It's usually a nice neighborhood and it was probably "outsiders" who did it, but I won't put out anything this year unil Halloween evening. I'll keep an eye on everything (not hard to do considering the number of trick r treaters we get) until I take things inside and turn off the lights. |
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sf wrote:
> On 15 Oct 2005 19:18:42 -0700, Sheldon wrote: > > >> >> zxcvbob wrote: >> > http://www.liquidgeneration.com/sabo...pkin_carve.asp >> >> I don't carve my pumpkins. >> After Halloween I put them outside. >> Here's why: http://tinypic.com/el75lh.jpg >> > > Kids are getting meaner these days. Usually they wait until Halloween > night to smash pumpkins. We had 2 uncarved pumpkins (outside) by the > front door and someone smashed the "baby" one Friday night. My > grandson is only 4 and very excited about pumpkins (not Halloween > yet). It was a mean spirited thing to do. > Do they stomp them? You could put a broken coke bottle inside or a cheap steak knife blade, inserting it up from the bottom... Or electrify it with a fence charger (just sit it on top of an energized metal soup can lid, on top of a plastic coffee lid insulator) If a kid grabs it, he will get a harmless but painful surprise... Best regards, Bob |
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![]() sf wrote: > On 15 Oct 2005 19:18:42 -0700, Sheldon wrote: > > > > > zxcvbob wrote: > > > http://www.liquidgeneration.com/sabo...pkin_carve.asp > > > > I don't carve my pumpkins. > > After Halloween I put them outside. > > Here's why: http://tinypic.com/el75lh.jpg > > > Kids are getting meaner these days. Usually they wait until Halloween > night to smash pumpkins. We had 2 uncarved pumpkins (outside) by the > front door and someone smashed the "baby" one Friday night. My > grandson is only 4 and very excited about pumpkins (not Halloween > yet). It was a mean spirited thing to do. > > I took the remaining one inside. Too bad. It's usually a nice > neighborhood and it was probably "outsiders" who did it, but I won't > put out anything this year unil Halloween evening. I'll keep an eye > on everything (not hard to do considering the number of trick r > treaters we get) until I take things inside and turn off the lights. When I lived on Lung Guyland I had that problem but the kids here in the boonies are for the most part much more civilized regarding Halloween (don't really know about other instances). Here only the very young kids go out begging, always with their parents... the older kids (young teens) don't seem at all interested. Anyways, my front door is a good 200 feet in from the road, don't think anyone is going to bother creeping all that way to smash a couple pumpkins. I don't get too many rug rats and they don't come around much past dinner time, so that's when I put my pumpkins out back by the trees where my cats can see them from a window, they spend many hours over many days intently observing the squirrels squirreling. Sheldon |
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![]() zxcvbob wrote: > sf wrote: > > On 15 Oct 2005 19:18:42 -0700, Sheldon wrote: > > > > > >> > >> zxcvbob wrote: > >> > http://www.liquidgeneration.com/sabo...pkin_carve.asp > >> > >> I don't carve my pumpkins. > >> After Halloween I put them outside. > >> Here's why: http://tinypic.com/el75lh.jpg > >> > > > > Kids are getting meaner these days. Usually they wait until Halloween > > night to smash pumpkins. We had 2 uncarved pumpkins (outside) by the > > front door and someone smashed the "baby" one Friday night. My > > grandson is only 4 and very excited about pumpkins (not Halloween > > yet). It was a mean spirited thing to do. > > > > Do they stomp them? You could put a broken coke bottle inside or a > cheap steak knife blade, inserting it up from the bottom... > > Or electrify it with a fence charger (just sit it on top of an energized > metal soup can lid, on top of a plastic coffee lid insulator) If a kid > grabs it, he will get a harmless but painful surprise... Geeze, you must be one of those creepy kids got his jollies pulling wings off butterflys. Sheldon |
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On 16 Oct 2005 13:05:30 -0700, "Sheldon" > wrote:
>When I lived on Lung Guyland I had that problem but the kids here in >the boonies are for the most part much more civilized regarding >Halloween (don't really know about other instances). Here only the >very young kids go out begging, always with their parents... the older >kids (young teens) don't seem at all interested. Anyways, my front >door is a good 200 feet in from the road, don't think anyone is going >to bother creeping all that way to smash a couple pumpkins. I don't >get too many rug rats and they don't come around much past dinner time, >so that's when I put my pumpkins out back by the trees where my cats >can see them from a window, they spend many hours over many days >intently observing the squirrels squirreling. I loved the picture of your pumpkin-eating squirrels. I've never seen that happen before. Carol |
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![]() Carol Peterson wrote: > On 16 Oct 2005 13:05:30 -0700, "Sheldon" > wrote: > > >When I lived on Lung Guyland I had that problem but the kids here in > >the boonies are for the most part much more civilized regarding > >Halloween (don't really know about other instances). Here only the > >very young kids go out begging, always with their parents... the older > >kids (young teens) don't seem at all interested. Anyways, my front > >door is a good 200 feet in from the road, don't think anyone is going > >to bother creeping all that way to smash a couple pumpkins. I don't > >get too many rug rats and they don't come around much past dinner time, > >so that's when I put my pumpkins out back by the trees where my cats > >can see them from a window, they spend many hours over many days > >intently observing the squirrels squirreling. > > I loved the picture of your pumpkin-eating squirrels. I've never seen > that happen before. Well, you need to put out uncarved pumpkins, the squirrels go after the seeds... they eat the pumpkin flesh on the spot and horde the seeds for winter. Nothing edible gets wasted here... the blue jays already polished off all my sunflower seeds, they worked from before sunrise until dark till there wasn't a seed left... but they didn't eat any, they kept filling up and ferrying them to a nest where they deposited them for the winter. The deer are already winterizing, they change their diet from grasses to twigs and bark... they're venturing closer and closer to the my house at night, checking my shrub menu... too bad, it's all fenced this year... those thieves nearly cleaned me out last winter. Sheldon |
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On 16 Oct 2005 13:28:59 -0700, "Sheldon" > wrote:
>Well, you need to put out uncarved pumpkins, the squirrels go after the >seeds... they eat the pumpkin flesh on the spot and horde the seeds for >winter. Nothing edible gets wasted here... the blue jays already >polished off all my sunflower seeds, they worked from before sunrise >until dark till there wasn't a seed left... but they didn't eat any, >they kept filling up and ferrying them to a nest where they deposited >them for the winter. The deer are already winterizing, they change >their diet from grasses to twigs and bark... they're venturing closer >and closer to the my house at night, checking my shrub menu... too bad, >it's all fenced this year... those thieves nearly cleaned me out last >winter. Sounds like those animals are smarter than some people. Do you put out bales of hay or straw or whatever it is that deer eat? Crash used to do that (along with salt licks) in areas known to be inhabited by deer. Just random acts of kindness. Our neighbor has given us two absolutely perfect pumpkins. So far, no squirrel inhabitants. But it's a good idea to put the seeds out for the critters. I wouldn't have thought of that. Thank you. Carol |
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![]() Carol Peterson wrote: > On 16 Oct 2005 13:28:59 -0700, "Sheldon" > wrote: > > >Well, you need to put out uncarved pumpkins, the squirrels go after the > >seeds... they eat the pumpkin flesh on the spot and horde the seeds for > >winter. Nothing edible gets wasted here... the blue jays already > >polished off all my sunflower seeds, they worked from before sunrise > >until dark till there wasn't a seed left... but they didn't eat any, > >they kept filling up and ferrying them to a nest where they deposited > >them for the winter. The deer are already winterizing, they change > >their diet from grasses to twigs and bark... they're venturing closer > >and closer to the my house at night, checking my shrub menu... too bad, > >it's all fenced this year... those thieves nearly cleaned me out last > >winter. > > Sounds like those animals are smarter than some people. > > Do you put out bales of hay or straw or whatever it is that deer eat? > Crash used to do that (along with salt licks) in areas known to be > inhabited by deer. Just random acts of kindness. > > Our neighbor has given us two absolutely perfect pumpkins. So far, no > squirrel inhabitants. But it's a good idea to put the seeds out for > the critters. I wouldn't have thought of that. Thank you. Around here there's plenty of natural habitat where the animals can exist undisturbed, and there's plenty of their natural foods in the forests and meadows, and with all the streams lots of water. The farmers leave out plenty of baled hay, they have no room in the barns for it all. Sheldon |
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sf wrote:
> On 15 Oct 2005 19:18:42 -0700, Sheldon wrote: > >> >> zxcvbob wrote: >> > http://www.liquidgeneration.com/sabo...pkin_carve.asp >> >> I don't carve my pumpkins. >> After Halloween I put them outside. >> Here's why: http://tinypic.com/el75lh.jpg >> > Kids are getting meaner these days. Usually they wait until Halloween > night to smash pumpkins. We had 2 uncarved pumpkins (outside) by the > front door and someone smashed the "baby" one Friday night. My > grandson is only 4 and very excited about pumpkins (not Halloween > yet). It was a mean spirited thing to do. > I used to decorate for fall (not necessarily for Halloween, but harvest) with pumpkins and cornstalks. Made a pretty presentation. I guess I'm lucky in that I don't live in an apartment complex with lots of kids. No one bothers the stuff I set out. I agree, it was a mean thing for those kids (probably teens) to do. Jill |
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:54:29 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
> I used to decorate for fall (not necessarily for Halloween, but harvest) > with pumpkins and cornstalks. I usually leave my uncarved pumpkins out until after Thanksgiving - but maybe not this year. Sometimes I put out cornstalks, but they are really ugly here. They get moldy from the fog. |
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:13:59 -0400, Tony P. wrote:
> In article >, > says... > > On 15 Oct 2005 19:18:42 -0700, Sheldon wrote: > > > > > > > > zxcvbob wrote: > > > > http://www.liquidgeneration.com/sabo...pkin_carve.asp > > > > > > I don't carve my pumpkins. > > > After Halloween I put them outside. > > > Here's why: http://tinypic.com/el75lh.jpg > > > > > Kids are getting meaner these days. Usually they wait until Halloween > > night to smash pumpkins. We had 2 uncarved pumpkins (outside) by the > > front door and someone smashed the "baby" one Friday night. My > > grandson is only 4 and very excited about pumpkins (not Halloween > > yet). It was a mean spirited thing to do. > > > > I took the remaining one inside. Too bad. It's usually a nice > > neighborhood and it was probably "outsiders" who did it, but I won't > > put out anything this year unil Halloween evening. I'll keep an eye > > on everything (not hard to do considering the number of trick r > > treaters we get) until I take things inside and turn off the lights. > > Pumpkin slashing has been around for a LONG time. Unfortunately I no > longer have my machete - that used to be very good at slicing pumpkins. > One of us would toss the pumpkin in the air and another would take a > swing. > > We did that for one season and by the sixth or so pumpkin the fun kind > of ran out. But every now and then I see a pumpkin that's obviously been > put to a blade and I smile. > Buy or grow all the pumpkins you want to put to the knife. It's not my business. When you do it to my pumpkins, you are vandalizing property and stealing. I don't care if you like doing it. Spend your own GD money on pumpkins you put to the knife. |
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In article . com>, "Sheldon" > wrote:
> >zxcvbob wrote: >> http://www.liquidgeneration.com/sabo...pkin_carve.asp > >I don't carve my pumpkins. >After Halloween I put them outside. >Here's why: http://tinypic.com/el75lh.jpg The local daily tabloid recently had a snippet about a "new world record pumpkin". Seems some bloke (in the USA?) has grown a bloody pumpkin weighing in at about 557 kg, IIRC. (That's about 1228 lb for the benefit of you Yanks. ![]() Cheers, Phred. -- LID |
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says... > In article . com>, "Sheldon" > wrote: > > > >zxcvbob wrote: > >> http://www.liquidgeneration.com/sabo...pkin_carve.asp > > > >I don't carve my pumpkins. > >After Halloween I put them outside. > >Here's why: http://tinypic.com/el75lh.jpg > > The local daily tabloid recently had a snippet about a "new world > record pumpkin". Seems some bloke (in the USA?) has grown a bloody > pumpkin weighing in at about 557 kg, IIRC. (That's about 1228 lb for > the benefit of you Yanks. ![]() > > Cheers, Phred. It was right here in Rhode Island and it was closer to 1300+ lbs. They had the picture of it in the Providence Journal. Unfortunately it is no longer on-line. Makes me wonder how projo.com won it's 'awards'. It has to be one of the suckiest newspaper sites out there. But then, it was in no great shape before Belo bought it, and now it's barely fit to line the cat litter pan with. |
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In article >, Tony P. > wrote:
>In article >, >says... >> In article . com>, "Sheldon" > > wrote: >> > >> >zxcvbob wrote: >> >> http://www.liquidgeneration.com/sabo...pkin_carve.asp >> > >> >I don't carve my pumpkins. >> >After Halloween I put them outside. >> >Here's why: http://tinypic.com/el75lh.jpg >> >> The local daily tabloid recently had a snippet about a "new world >> record pumpkin". Seems some bloke (in the USA?) has grown a bloody >> pumpkin weighing in at about 557 kg, IIRC. (That's about 1228 lb for >> the benefit of you Yanks. ![]() > >It was right here in Rhode Island and it was closer to 1300+ lbs. They >had the picture of it in the Providence Journal. Unfortunately it is no >longer on-line. Hmm... Might be two of the bloody big things? Checked my reference when wrapping the rubbish -- the one I mentioned was displayed at a "world championship competition" held in California and was grown by Joel Holland, a retired firefighter from Washington State. It won the "World Championship Pumpkin Weigh-off" and weighed in at "557.47 kg", which I take to mean one of those stupid tabloid conversions to our "kg" from your 1229 lb. :-) It measured 3.9 m (153.54" ;-) in girth. >Makes me wonder how projo.com won it's 'awards'. It has to be one of the >suckiest newspaper sites out there. But then, it was in no great shape >before Belo bought it, and now it's barely fit to line the cat litter >pan with. Cheers, Phred. -- LID |
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Damsel wrote:
> I loved the picture of your pumpkin-eating squirrels. I've never seen > that happen before. > > Carol Happened to me about 12 years ago. The pumpkins started rotting on the back steps, and then I heard that noise....Grabbed my camera, and got a (print) picture of the little thief. Now, we keep our pumpkins inside until halloween, carve them when the kid gets home from school, put them out for about 4 hours with candles, and then take them in and steam them for pumpkin pie filling, Pumpkin cookies, muffins and bread. and of course pumpkin seeds roasted! maxine in ri |
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Phred wrote:
> The local daily tabloid recently had a snippet about a > "new world record pumpkin". Seems some bloke (in > the USA?) has grown a bloody pumpkin weighing in > at about 557 kg, IIRC. (That's about 1228 lb for > the benefit of you Yanks. ![]() Cheers, Phred. The last time I checked, the biggest one was just over 1200 lb. Every year it creeps up. The sad thing is, they spend all that time and fertilizer growing something that has little food value. maxine in ri |
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![]() maxine in ri wrote: > Phred wrote: > > > The local daily tabloid recently had a snippet about a > > "new world record pumpkin". Seems some bloke (in > > the USA?) has grown a bloody pumpkin weighing in > > at about 557 kg, IIRC. (That's about 1228 lb for > > the benefit of you Yanks. ![]() > > Cheers, Phred. > > The last time I checked, the biggest one was just over 1200 lb. Every > year it creeps up. The sad thing is, they spend all that time and > fertilizer growing something that has little food value. Actually composted manure is essentially free, and pumpkin has significant dietary value. And pumpkins kinda grow all by themselves, other than planting a seed there's no undue effort involved. http://www.urbanext.uiuc.edu/pumpkins/nutrition.html Sheldon |
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Sheldon wrote:
Actually composted manure is essentially free, and pumpkin has significant dietary value. And pumpkins kinda grow all by themselves, other than planting a seed there's no undue effort involved. http://www.urbanext.uiuc.edu/pumpkins/nutrition.html Sheldon The jack-o-lantern and sugar pumpkins are easy to grow, but I've talked to some of the contestants in the giant pumpkin contests, and compost alone will not a winner make. The Jumbos taste like sawdust and have flesh over a foot thick, so even the squirrels would have to be starving to dig that deep for their seeds! maxine in ri |
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On 18 Oct 2005 09:13:14 -0700, "maxine in ri" >
wrote: > Damsel wrote: > > I loved the picture of your pumpkin-eating squirrels. I've never seen > > that happen before. > > > > Carol > > Happened to me about 12 years ago. The pumpkins started rotting on the > back steps, and then I heard that noise....Grabbed my camera, and got a > (print) picture of the little thief. > > Now, we keep our pumpkins inside until halloween, carve them when the > kid gets home from school, put them out for about 4 hours with candles, > and then take them in and steam them for pumpkin pie filling, Pumpkin > cookies, muffins and bread. I have memories of the pumpkin being chunked baked, then scooped out of the outer shell. What's the steaming process? > and of course pumpkin seeds roasted! We did that, too, but I think I'll put ours out as critter food. The shells on those things are like eating wood. The critters will enjoy them more than we would. Carol |
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![]() maxine in ri wrote: > Sheldon wrote: > > Actually composted manure is essentially free, and pumpkin has > significant dietary value. And pumpkins kinda grow all by themselves, > other than planting a seed there's no undue effort involved. > > http://www.urbanext.uiuc.edu/pumpkins/nutrition.html > > Sheldon > > The jack-o-lantern and sugar pumpkins are easy to grow, but I've talked > to some of the contestants in the giant pumpkin contests, Don't need more IQ than a pumpkin to be a pumpkin farmer. > and compost alone will not a winner make. Yep, they need sunlight and water... and leave only one fruit per vine.... pumpkin needs very little added fertilizer... most of its growing energy is derived from sunlight, dincha ever wonder why pumpkin vine leaves are so hummongous. Sheldon > The Jumbos taste like sawdust and have > flesh over a foot thick, so even the squirrels would have to be > starving to dig that deep for their seeds! That's just not true. Pumpkin flesh is nothing for a squirrel to chew through, even with mammoth pumpkin size does not matter to a female squirrel when she wants nuts. Btw, the only thing that differentiates a Halloween carving pumpkin from a pie pumpkin is shape/configuration (which is esthetic/subjective anyway), they're all good for pie/they're all good for carving.... smaller ones typically have a greater flesh ratio to seeds/strings so they cost less per pound of usable flesh but they don't taste any better... pumpkin pie flavor is derived from spices. And moisture content of pumpkin flesh has to do with rainfall, not size... in fact those jumbos are more moist because if they weren't watered profusely they'd not become jumbos. Jumbo contest pumpkins make excellent eating... but for pie you want fresh picked, not some old bag that's been flaunting her stuff for months... by the time any pumkin is two weeks off the vine it's already pretty well fermented and except for a heavy hand with the spice would taste pretty awful... by the time soft spots appear they're only good for wildlife fodder.... pumpkin doesn't ripen off the vine. |
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Damsel wrote:
> I have memories of the pumpkin being chunked baked, then > scooped out of the outer shell. What's the steaming process? >> and of course pumpkin seeds roasted! We did that, too, but I think I'll put ours out as critter food. The shells on those things are like eating wood. The critters will enjoy them more than we would. Carol We tried baking the pumpkin one year, but hubby didn't like the taste when he made his pies, so we cut the jack-o-lanterns in quarters, pop them into a pot of steaming water, and cook til they're soft. Then it's very easy to scrape the flesh off the skin. DH used to spend ages with the carrot peeler.... After scraping it off the skin, I put the flesh into a collander and that over a bowl and into the fridge to drain. DH likes his pies with "texture," or I'd puree them next. I used to crack the seeds open, but the innards are too small to make it worthwhile, so I roast them with a sesame/soy mixture, and they make good fiber.... maxine in ri |
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On 19 Oct 2005 09:09:44 -0700, "maxine in ri" >
wrote: > We tried baking the pumpkin one year, but hubby didn't like the taste > when he made his pies, so we cut the jack-o-lanterns in quarters, pop > them into a pot of steaming water, and cook til they're soft. Then > it's very easy to scrape the flesh off the skin. DH used to spend ages > with the carrot peeler.... > > After scraping it off the skin, I put the flesh into a collander and > that over a bowl and into the fridge to drain. DH likes his pies with > "texture," or I'd puree them next. > > I used to crack the seeds open, but the innards are too small to make > it worthwhile, so I roast them with a sesame/soy mixture, and they make > good fiber.... Thanks, Maxine! Carol |
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![]() Tony P. wrote: > > But pumpkin seeds are a weakness. Roasted properly and then a little > salt - yum! But pumpkin seeds are first soaked in salt water over night, and then roasted... sunflower seeds the same, just a week ago did a huge batch from the sunflowers I grew. Sheldon |
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![]() Tony P. wrote: > In article . com>, > says... > > > > Tony P. wrote: > > > > > > But pumpkin seeds are a weakness. Roasted properly and then a little > > > salt - yum! > > > > But pumpkin seeds are first soaked in salt water over night, and then > > roasted... sunflower seeds the same, just a week ago did a huge batch > > from the sunflowers I grew. > > > > Sheldon > > Damn it Sheldon, now I'm going to have to carve out yet another pumpkin! http://www.sunflowernsa.com/health/r...ipe.asp?rID=53 How to Roast In-Shell Sunflower Seeds Cover unshelled seeds with salted water, using 1/4 to 1/2 cup of salt per two quarts of water. Soak seeds in the salt solution overnight. Drain off the water the next morning and pat the seeds dry to remove excess moisture. (You can also roast the seeds unsalted, by simply skipping the soaking process). Preheat the oven to 300 degrees Fahrenheit. Spread the sunflower seeds evenly on a cookie sheet or shallow pan and bake for 30 to 40 minutes or until golden brown, stirring occasionally. The seeds will often develop a small crack down the center as they roast. Test after each stirring to see if the seeds are completely roasted by tasting. After roasting, remove seeds from the oven and allow them to cool completely. Then store the seeds in an airtight container for future snacking. Variations call for mixing a teaspoon of melted butter with a cup of seeds while they are still warm from the oven; these are for immediate eating. Some also experiment with different seasonings, such as barbecue, Cajun, and taco. Sheldon |
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