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Old 16-06-2004, 06:09 AM
Richard Periut
 
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Hi all and greetings,

When I was a teen (about 25 years ago,) I used to fish the Hudson River
on the Hoboken bank.

The fish were mostly eels, and an occasional stripped bass. They tasted
like oil, and so did the crabs. The local bums and my cat used to
cherish them.

Recently, a friend of mine told me that he pulls in 5 and sometimes 10
pound striped bass, which he says taste great. What bothers me the most,
is that he states that the river has been cleaned up, and that the fish
taste great.

I vaguely heard that consumption should be limited to one serving per
week, because of Dioxin levels? Then again, other fresh water fish have
been implicated regardless of location.

Anyone have any knowledge regarding this?

TIA,

Richard






--
"'Who knows for certain? Who shall here declare it?
Whence was it born, whence came creation?
The gods are later than this world's formation;
Who then can know the origins of the world?
None knows whence creation arose;
And whether he has or has not made it;
He who surveys it from the lofty skies.
Only he knows-or perhaps he knows not.'
And this is tempered by another, perhaps still greater:
That men are not the dreams of the gods but that the gods are the
dreams of men."

The Rig Veda
Circa 1500 B.C.


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Old 16-06-2004, 09:05 AM
MrAoD
 
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Richard Periut writes:

Hi all and greetings,

When I was a teen (about 25 years ago,) I used to fish the Hudson River
on the Hoboken bank.

The fish were mostly eels, and an occasional stripped bass. They tasted
like oil, and so did the crabs. The local bums and my cat used to
cherish them.

Recently, a friend of mine told me that he pulls in 5 and sometimes 10
pound striped bass, which he says taste great. What bothers me the most,
is that he states that the river has been cleaned up, and that the fish
taste great.


I vaguely heard that consumption should be limited to one serving per
week, because of Dioxin levels? Then again, other fresh water fish have
been implicated regardless of location.

Anyone have any knowledge regarding this?


It really depends on the river, check with the state health agency.

http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/fish/fish.htm

That said predator species, even pelagic species like tuna, concentrate toxins
in their bodies. PCBs, mercury, whatever. There's growing concern that
consumption of even wild caught fish should be limited to one serving per week.

In some rivers, such as the Anacostia in D.C., people are advised not to eat
any fish they caught in any amounts.

Best,

Marc

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Old 16-06-2004, 01:06 PM
George
 
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"Richard Periut" wrote in message
...
Hi all and greetings,

When I was a teen (about 25 years ago,) I used to fish the Hudson River
on the Hoboken bank.

The fish were mostly eels, and an occasional stripped bass. They tasted
like oil, and so did the crabs. The local bums and my cat used to
cherish them.

Recently, a friend of mine told me that he pulls in 5 and sometimes 10
pound striped bass, which he says taste great. What bothers me the most,
is that he states that the river has been cleaned up, and that the fish
taste great.


I believe most of the dioxin is from the old releases from the GE
transformer plant. The last I read about it they were considering extensive
dredging of the river bottom but opposing thoughts say that may make a
bigger mess.


I vaguely heard that consumption should be limited to one serving per
week, because of Dioxin levels? Then again, other fresh water fish have
been implicated regardless of location.

Anyone have any knowledge regarding this?

TIA,

Richard


Hudson River South of Catskill, Arthur Kill, Kill Van Kull and Upper Bay of
New York Harbor (North of Verrazano Narrows Bridge)


a.. Eat no gizzard shad.
b.. Eat no more than one meal per month of American eel, Atlantic
needlefish, bluefish, brown bullhead, carp, channel catfish, goldfish,
largemouth and smallmouth bass, rainbow smelt, striped bass, walleye, white
catfish and white perch and eat no more than one meal per week of other fish
species.
c.. Eat no more than six blue crabs per week and don't consume the
hepatopancreas (mustard, tomalley, liver) or cooking liquid.







--
"'Who knows for certain? Who shall here declare it?
Whence was it born, whence came creation?
The gods are later than this world's formation;
Who then can know the origins of the world?
None knows whence creation arose;
And whether he has or has not made it;
He who surveys it from the lofty skies.
Only he knows-or perhaps he knows not.'
And this is tempered by another, perhaps still greater:
That men are not the dreams of the gods but that the gods are the
dreams of men."

The Rig Veda
Circa 1500 B.C.



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Old 16-06-2004, 02:43 PM
Peter Aitken
 
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"Richard Periut" wrote in message
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Hi all and greetings,

When I was a teen (about 25 years ago,) I used to fish the Hudson River
on the Hoboken bank.

The fish were mostly eels, and an occasional stripped bass. They tasted
like oil, and so did the crabs. The local bums and my cat used to
cherish them.

Recently, a friend of mine told me that he pulls in 5 and sometimes 10
pound striped bass, which he says taste great. What bothers me the most,
is that he states that the river has been cleaned up, and that the fish
taste great.

I vaguely heard that consumption should be limited to one serving per
week, because of Dioxin levels? Then again, other fresh water fish have
been implicated regardless of location.

Anyone have any knowledge regarding this?


The Hudson has been cleaned up a lot, but you need to ask the state wildlife
or game department, not a newsgroup.


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.


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Old 16-06-2004, 04:01 PM
Richard Periut
 
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MrAoD wrote:
Richard Periut writes:


Hi all and greetings,

When I was a teen (about 25 years ago,) I used to fish the Hudson River
on the Hoboken bank.

The fish were mostly eels, and an occasional stripped bass. They tasted
like oil, and so did the crabs. The local bums and my cat used to
cherish them.

Recently, a friend of mine told me that he pulls in 5 and sometimes 10
pound striped bass, which he says taste great. What bothers me the most,
is that he states that the river has been cleaned up, and that the fish
taste great.



I vaguely heard that consumption should be limited to one serving per
week, because of Dioxin levels? Then again, other fresh water fish have
been implicated regardless of location.

Anyone have any knowledge regarding this?



It really depends on the river, check with the state health agency.

http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/fish/fish.htm

That said predator species, even pelagic species like tuna, concentrate toxins
in their bodies. PCBs, mercury, whatever. There's growing concern that
consumption of even wild caught fish should be limited to one serving per week.

In some rivers, such as the Anacostia in D.C., people are advised not to eat
any fish they caught in any amounts.

Best,

Marc

Thanks Marc and others for the links/advice.

It shouldn't surprise me of what I read. You don't want to know the
stuff in the air that we inhale, and the amount of people with
respiratory problems not related to personal habits.

Thanks again,

Rich



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Old 16-06-2004, 05:22 PM
Allan Matthews
 
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 05:09:47 GMT, Richard Periut
wrote:

Hi all and greetings,

When I was a teen (about 25 years ago,) I used to fish the Hudson River
on the Hoboken bank.

The fish were mostly eels, and an occasional stripped bass. They tasted
like oil, and so did the crabs. The local bums and my cat used to
cherish them.

Recently, a friend of mine told me that he pulls in 5 and sometimes 10
pound striped bass, which he says taste great. What bothers me the most,
is that he states that the river has been cleaned up, and that the fish
taste great.

I vaguely heard that consumption should be limited to one serving per
week, because of Dioxin levels? Then again, other fresh water fish have
been implicated regardless of location.

Anyone have any knowledge regarding this?

TIA,

Richard



Stop in any place that sells fishing licenses and get the book that
comes with them..its a freebie. It tell about how many servings of
fish you should eat each month from the various waters of New York
State.
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Old 16-06-2004, 10:05 PM
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Far as I can tell, someone wrote:
When I was a teen (about 25 years ago,) I used to fish the Hudson River
on the Hoboken bank.


My daughter lives in Hoboken just of Washington Blvd.

They done aGREAT job building the park and bike trails, etc.

But the water still looks like shit and I wouldn't eat a fish that came
out of it.
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Old 16-06-2004, 10:13 PM
Petey the Wonder Dog
 
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Default Hudson River Fishing

Far as I can tell, someone wrote:
Stop in any place that sells fishing licenses and get the book that
comes with them..its a freebie. It tell about how many servings of
fish you should eat each month from the various waters of New York
State.


I agree that this would be a good idea if you HAD to eat the fish, but
honestly, why would you want to eat something that more than likely is
toxic if you eat a just a wee bit too much. The Hudson River at
Hoboken?

I mean we're not talking about hamburger fat here. We're talking about
fish that live breathe and eat diesel fuel.

Suggestion. Go to the riverbank. Catch some fish. Throw them back. Go
to the Fulton Fish Market. Buy something. Go home and eat it.

For a real fight, catch a tire in the Rahway River.
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Old 16-06-2004, 11:15 PM
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"Richard Periut" wrote in message
...
Hi all and greetings,

When I was a teen (about 25 years ago,) I used to fish the Hudson River
on the Hoboken bank.

The fish were mostly eels, and an occasional stripped bass. They tasted
like oil, and so did the crabs. The local bums and my cat used to
cherish them.

Recently, a friend of mine told me that he pulls in 5 and sometimes 10
pound striped bass, which he says taste great. What bothers me the most,
is that he states that the river has been cleaned up, and that the fish
taste great.

I vaguely heard that consumption should be limited to one serving per
week, because of Dioxin levels? Then again, other fresh water fish have
been implicated regardless of location.

Anyone have any knowledge regarding this?

TIA,

Richard


There was a comic a few years ago (I don't remember which one) who theorized
about actually catching a fish in the Hudson near NYC. He said that the fish
would be well ****ed off, slap around the fisherman, steal his bait, insult,
chastize and slime him, before disappearing back into the water.


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Old 17-06-2004, 11:01 PM
Allan Matthews
 
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:13:56 GMT, Petey the Wonder Dog
wrote:

Far as I can tell, someone wrote:
Stop in any place that sells fishing licenses and get the book that
comes with them..its a freebie. It tell about how many servings of
fish you should eat each month from the various waters of New York
State.


I agree that this would be a good idea if you HAD to eat the fish, but
honestly, why would you want to eat something that more than likely is
toxic if you eat a just a wee bit too much. The Hudson River at
Hoboken?

I mean we're not talking about hamburger fat here. We're talking about
fish that live breathe and eat diesel fuel.

Suggestion. Go to the riverbank. Catch some fish. Throw them back. Go
to the Fulton Fish Market. Buy something. Go home and eat it.

For a real fight, catch a tire in the Rahway River.


He did not ask if I would eat fish from the Hudson...he asked about
information, which I gave him. I personally fish the l Finger Lakes.



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