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Lynne 12-06-2004 02:30 PM

Burns
 
Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will take
the pain away?

--
Lynne x



Joe 12-06-2004 02:42 PM

Burns
 
Lynne wrote:
> Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will take
> the pain away?
>
> --
> Lynne x


Huge amounts of alcohol. Mostly taken internally



Margaret Suran 12-06-2004 02:46 PM

Burns
 


Lynne wrote:
> Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will take
> the pain away?
>



Let cold water from the faucet run over it. Then, if you have any
kind of burn or pain cream or spray, apply it to the affected area.

I hope that your pain will go away quickly.


PENMART01 12-06-2004 02:48 PM

Burns
 
> "Lynne Airhead" babbled:
>
>I burnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will take
>the pain away?


Either of your nether orifices will do. Idiot!


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Katra 12-06-2004 03:04 PM

Burns
 
In article >,
"Lynne" > wrote:

> Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will take
> the pain away?


Emu oil. Seriously...

If you don't have any, try a little Olive oil.

K.

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Lynne 12-06-2004 03:13 PM

Burns
 
aol hmm

"PENMART01" > wrote in message
...
> > "Lynne Airhead" babbled:
> >
> >I burnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will

take
> >the pain away?

>
> Either of your nether orifices will do. Idiot!
>
>
> ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
> *********
> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
> Sheldon
> ````````````




BOB 12-06-2004 03:20 PM

Burns
 
Katra wrote:
> In article >,
> "Lynne" > wrote:
>
>> Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will take
>> the pain away?

>
> Emu oil. Seriously...



That *Blue* stuff on late night TV Infomercials?



>
> If you don't have any, try a little Olive oil.
>
> K.
>




[email protected] 12-06-2004 03:39 PM

Burns
 
In rec.food.cooking, Lynne > wrote:
> Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will take
> the pain away?


Heroin.

--
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- The Who

Terrel 12-06-2004 03:47 PM

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>On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 14:30:42 +0100, "Lynne" > wrote:
>Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will take
>the pain away?


I have an aloe vera plant just in case I get minor burns in the
kitchen. If I get a burn, I cut a tip off of the aloe vera, cut it
open, and scrape the gel onto the burn. I find that the gel soothes
the burn immediately, and the burn seems to heal faster, too.

Of course, this wouldn't be good for anyone that's allergic/sensitive
to aloe vera.

Terrel
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Deacon 12-06-2004 03:50 PM

Burns
 

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 14:30:42 +0100, "Lynne"
> wrote:

>Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will take
>the pain away?


Cold water for at least 20 minutes after the burn occurs then 10
minutes on / off until the pain subsides, apply an antibiotic cream
(such as Neosporin or Polysporin), if the skin is broken apply a gauze
dressing lightly to keep it clean otherwise it does not need to be
dressed. Do not break any blisters that form, take an OTC painkiller
(ASA, ibubrofen, acetaminophen) for the pin.

Bob (this one) 12-06-2004 05:21 PM

Burns
 
Lynne wrote:

> Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will ta=

ke
> the pain away?


Cold. Ice water or ice wrapped in a towel. All that stuff about butter=20
and creams is nonsense. Old ways that have been superseded by better ones=
=2E

Working in professional kitchens means frequent burns. The trauma unit=20
of a local hospital had their X-mas banquet in my place one year. I=20
spilled hot oil (fondue pot - 365=B0F) on my hand in the room where they =

were. One of them immediately pushed my hand into a big pitcher of=20
iced tea and walked me back to the kitchen that way. Hand got numb=20
pretty quickly. Tea was all down the front of my pants and that cost=20
me a lot of razzing over the next week or so.

Back in the kitchen, a nurse put a fair amount of ice into a plastic=20
bag, put a little water in it and put my hand into it. Closed it=20
around my wrist and told me to keep it that way for 4 hours,=20
replenishing the ice as needed to keep it all very cold. Said to take=20
the hand out for about 5 minutes (or until the pain got to be too=20
much) every 15 minutes or so for circulation.

Did what she told me. No blisters, no sloughing off of skin. A little=20
redness that disappeared in about 24 hours.

The burn was fairly extensive and would have been serious had they not=20
acted as quickly as they did. After that, our standard kitchen=20
treatment was cold. Ice first then water as needed. Our incidence of=20
serious injury diminished drastically.

The value of that approach was made very clear a while later. The same=20
accident happened to two people a day apart. Server picking up a glass=20
coffee pot had the bottom fall out and splash them down the legs with=20
hot coffee. First one was hustled into the walk-in cooler, pants off=20
and ice water poured over her legs for about a half hour. Not even=20
redness except under the straps of her shoes (which we didn't notice=20
at the time). Next day, same accident to one of the guys who said he'd=20
just shake it off. No cold water for him; pants on. He missed 4 days=20
of work from the extreme discomfort of the scorched skin and blisters.

Pastorio


Curly Sue 12-06-2004 05:28 PM

Burns
 
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 12:21:43 -0400, "Bob (this one)" >
wrote:

>Lynne wrote:
>
>> Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will ta=

>ke
>> the pain away?

>
>Cold. Ice water or ice wrapped in a towel. All that stuff about butter=20
>and creams is nonsense. Old ways that have been superseded by better ones=


For minor household burns it helps to keep small packs of blue ice in
the freezer. (It's less messy than melting ice so you can sit on
the couch with it and not worry about dripping water).

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

Katra 12-06-2004 05:29 PM

Burns
 
In article >, " BOB" >
wrote:

> Katra wrote:
> > In article >,
> > "Lynne" > wrote:
> >
> >> Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will take
> >> the pain away?

> >
> > Emu oil. Seriously...

>
>
> That *Blue* stuff on late night TV Infomercials?
>
>


Not really...
That is for arthritis but it'd do in a pinch.

I was starting the BBQ with a nice hot wood fire 3 weeks ago and I had
the grills on the front wood shelf with one side right next to the fire.

When my coals were ready, like an idiot, I grabbed one of the grills and
turned it to insert it into the BBQ and needless to say, burned the heck
out of one of my fingers on the hot side. :-(

Hurt really bad, so I went into the house and put some pure emu oil on
the burn (I keep it on hand) and within 5 minutes the pain was gone, and
it never even blistered. I forgot about it until last week when small
spot of dead skin peeled off my finger.

The same thing happened once when I burned my hand on a 400 degree oven
rack.

It takes the pain away and reduces the severity of a burn if applied
right away. Olive oil has a similar fatty acid breakdown, but it's not
nearly as effective as pure emu oil!

It also works on bee and wasp stings. Pain goes away in minutes.

I get mine off of ebay. My 5 emus are pets so I'm not gonna kill them
for the oil. <grins>

K.

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Lynne 12-06-2004 05:39 PM

Burns
 
Thanks everyone for the advice, I took some pain killer and have my hand
sitting in a metal cup of freezing water which i change when it starts to
warm. Its still pretty sore but no redness or blisters seem to be
appearing. The skin is just white. I am forever burning my self in the
kitchen tbh, but although this is a tiny burn it is by far the most painful.

Think I'll be sticking to salads over the summer :o)



JimLane 12-06-2004 07:32 PM

Burns
 
Lynne wrote:

> Thanks everyone for the advice, I took some pain killer and have my hand
> sitting in a metal cup of freezing water which i change when it starts to
> warm. Its still pretty sore but no redness or blisters seem to be
> appearing. The skin is just white. I am forever burning my self in the
> kitchen tbh, but although this is a tiny burn it is by far the most painful.
>
> Think I'll be sticking to salads over the summer :o)
>
>


You may be a bit late to get the full benefits of icing. It works best
when done immediately, as has been pointed out. But, sooner or later,
you'll need to use this technique.


jim

JimLane 12-06-2004 07:37 PM

Burns
 
Bob (this one) wrote:

> Lynne wrote:
>
>> Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will take
>> the pain away?

>
>
> Cold. Ice water or ice wrapped in a towel. All that stuff about butter
> and creams is nonsense. Old ways that have been superseded by better ones.
>
> Working in professional kitchens means frequent burns. The trauma unit
> of a local hospital had their X-mas banquet in my place one year. I
> spilled hot oil (fondue pot - 365°F) on my hand in the room where they
> were. One of them immediately pushed my hand into a big pitcher of iced
> tea and walked me back to the kitchen that way. Hand got numb pretty
> quickly. Tea was all down the front of my pants and that cost me a lot
> of razzing over the next week or so.
>
> Back in the kitchen, a nurse put a fair amount of ice into a plastic
> bag, put a little water in it and put my hand into it. Closed it around
> my wrist and told me to keep it that way for 4 hours, replenishing the
> ice as needed to keep it all very cold. Said to take the hand out for
> about 5 minutes (or until the pain got to be too much) every 15 minutes
> or so for circulation.
>
> Did what she told me. No blisters, no sloughing off of skin. A little
> redness that disappeared in about 24 hours.
>
> The burn was fairly extensive and would have been serious had they not
> acted as quickly as they did. After that, our standard kitchen treatment
> was cold. Ice first then water as needed. Our incidence of serious
> injury diminished drastically.
>
> The value of that approach was made very clear a while later. The same
> accident happened to two people a day apart. Server picking up a glass
> coffee pot had the bottom fall out and splash them down the legs with
> hot coffee. First one was hustled into the walk-in cooler, pants off and
> ice water poured over her legs for about a half hour. Not even redness
> except under the straps of her shoes (which we didn't notice at the
> time). Next day, same accident to one of the guys who said he'd just
> shake it off. No cold water for him; pants on. He missed 4 days of work
> from the extreme discomfort of the scorched skin and blisters.
>
> Pastorio
>


I've been told that you have to be very careful in removing any
clothing. I saw a young child bump into his mom at a Salt Lake City
coffee place and get the large cup of straight out of the pot hot coffee
down his back. Within seconds pitchers of ice water were dumped on the
area and a ice water wet towel full of ice was applied over his shirt.
Did your patrons say anything about clothing?


jim

Tony P. 12-06-2004 07:39 PM

Burns
 
In article >, says...
> Lynne wrote:
>
> > Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will ta=

> ke
> > the pain away?

>
> Cold. Ice water or ice wrapped in a towel. All that stuff about butter=20
> and creams is nonsense. Old ways that have been superseded by better ones=
> =2E
>
> Working in professional kitchens means frequent burns. The trauma unit=20
> of a local hospital had their X-mas banquet in my place one year. I=20
> spilled hot oil (fondue pot - 365=B0F) on my hand in the room where they =


The purpose is to stop the layers of skin from essentially cooking.
That's what heat does to them, and the blistering is the bodies way of
trying to protect the undamaged layers below the cooked/burnt layers.

If you catch it quickly enough you can in fact eliminate a high
percentage of the effects of a burn.

This type of training should be mandatory at all the cooking schools.
But it isn't yet.

For too many years we've paid scant attention to fire safety. Now that
we've had some very gruesome events (The Station fire in West Warwick,
RI is one of them.) things are starting to change.

But at the same time, the business community is bitching and moaning
about who's going to pay for their sprinkler systems. It gets on my
nerves.



Tony Walton 12-06-2004 07:41 PM

Burns
 
On 2004-06-12 17:28:43 +0100, (Curly Sue) said:

> For minor household burns it helps to keep small packs of blue ice in
> the freezer.


Blue ice?

--
Tony


Wayne 12-06-2004 09:14 PM

Burns
 
"Lynne" > wrote in news:caf0i3$nn4$1$8300dec7
@news.demon.co.uk:

> Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will take
> the pain away?
>


Aloe. Simplest and best is a leaf broken or cut off an aloe plant. The
thick juice within is a natural anesthetic. Just spread it on.
--
Wayne in Phoenix

Big on natural foods?? 82.38% of people die of "natural" causes.

Curly Sue 12-06-2004 09:37 PM

Burns
 
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 18:41:09 +0000 (UTC), Tony Walton
> wrote:

>On 2004-06-12 17:28:43 +0100, (Curly Sue) said:
>
>> For minor household burns it helps to keep small packs of blue ice in
>> the freezer.

>
>Blue ice?


That gel packed in plastic containers (some soft, some hard plastic)
that you keep in the freezer and put in coolers or lunch packs. It
comes in different sizes. I think it can be purchased all year round
but easier to find in summer or the beginning of the school year.

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

PENMART01 12-06-2004 11:13 PM

Burns
 
>"Lynne" writes:
>
>Thanks everyone for the advice, I took some pain killer and have my hand
>sitting in a metal cup of freezing water which i change when it starts to
>warm. Its still pretty sore but no redness or blisters seem to be
>appearing. The skin is just white. I am forever burning my self in the
>kitchen tbh, but although this is a tiny burn it is by far the most painful.


If the skin is white you have a Second degree burn and should seek medical
treatment to deter infection and lessen scaring... even though the burn covers
a small area Second degree burns are very prone to serious infection... see a
doctor.

Do NOT use ice for any burn.

Submerge the affected area in *cool* water only (COOL, NOT iced).

Naturally the imbeciles who offered INCORECT medical advice are as brain dead
as you... dumb ****.

http://my.webmd.com/hw/health_guide_...avbar=hw109096


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*********
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
````````````

[email protected] 13-06-2004 12:31 AM

Burns
 
Lynne > wrote:
> Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will take
> the pain away?


Soaking your finger in cold water, and time.


Deacon 13-06-2004 01:11 AM

Burns
 
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 12:21:43 -0400, "Bob (this one)" >
wrote:

>Lynne wrote:
>
>> Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will take
>> the pain away?

>
>Cold. Ice water or ice wrapped in a towel. All that stuff about butter
>and creams is nonsense. Old ways that have been superseded by better ones.
>
>Working in professional kitchens means frequent burns. The trauma unit
>of a local hospital had their X-mas banquet in my place one year. I
>spilled hot oil (fondue pot - 365°F) on my hand in the room where they
>were. One of them immediately pushed my hand into a big pitcher of
>iced tea and walked me back to the kitchen that way. Hand got numb
>pretty quickly. Tea was all down the front of my pants and that cost
>me a lot of razzing over the next week or so.
>
>Back in the kitchen, a nurse put a fair amount of ice into a plastic
>bag, put a little water in it and put my hand into it. Closed it
>around my wrist and told me to keep it that way for 4 hours,
>replenishing the ice as needed to keep it all very cold. Said to take
>the hand out for about 5 minutes (or until the pain got to be too
>much) every 15 minutes or so for circulation.
>
>Did what she told me. No blisters, no sloughing off of skin. A little
>redness that disappeared in about 24 hours.
>
>The burn was fairly extensive and would have been serious had they not
>acted as quickly as they did. After that, our standard kitchen
>treatment was cold. Ice first then water as needed. Our incidence of
>serious injury diminished drastically.
>
>The value of that approach was made very clear a while later. The same
>accident happened to two people a day apart. Server picking up a glass
>coffee pot had the bottom fall out and splash them down the legs with
>hot coffee. First one was hustled into the walk-in cooler, pants off
>and ice water poured over her legs for about a half hour. Not even
>redness except under the straps of her shoes (which we didn't notice
>at the time). Next day, same accident to one of the guys who said he'd
>just shake it off. No cold water for him; pants on. He missed 4 days
>of work from the extreme discomfort of the scorched skin and blisters.
>
>Pastorio


Bob, how long ago did this occur? I can definitely tellyou that
keeping a body part on ice for four hours is not taught anymore for
burn treatment. Cold water until the burning sensation subsides is
all you need, don't use ice as it can cause further tissue death.

Burn treatment has evolved quite a bit in the last few years....

Bob (this one) 13-06-2004 01:22 AM

Burns
 
JimLane wrote:
> Bob (this one) wrote:
>=20
>> Lynne wrote:
>>
>>> Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will =


>>> take
>>> the pain away?

>>
>>
>>
>> Cold. Ice water or ice wrapped in a towel. All that stuff about butter=

=20
>> and creams is nonsense. Old ways that have been superseded by better=20
>> ones.
>>
>> Working in professional kitchens means frequent burns. The trauma unit=

=20
>> of a local hospital had their X-mas banquet in my place one year. I=20
>> spilled hot oil (fondue pot - 365=B0F) on my hand in the room where th=

ey=20
>> were. One of them immediately pushed my hand into a big pitcher of=20
>> iced tea and walked me back to the kitchen that way. Hand got numb=20
>> pretty quickly. Tea was all down the front of my pants and that cost=20
>> me a lot of razzing over the next week or so.
>>
>> Back in the kitchen, a nurse put a fair amount of ice into a plastic=20
>> bag, put a little water in it and put my hand into it. Closed it=20
>> around my wrist and told me to keep it that way for 4 hours,=20
>> replenishing the ice as needed to keep it all very cold. Said to take =


>> the hand out for about 5 minutes (or until the pain got to be too=20
>> much) every 15 minutes or so for circulation.
>>
>> Did what she told me. No blisters, no sloughing off of skin. A little =


>> redness that disappeared in about 24 hours.
>>
>> The burn was fairly extensive and would have been serious had they not=

=20
>> acted as quickly as they did. After that, our standard kitchen=20
>> treatment was cold. Ice first then water as needed. Our incidence of=20
>> serious injury diminished drastically.
>>
>> The value of that approach was made very clear a while later. The same=

=20
>> accident happened to two people a day apart. Server picking up a glass=

=20
>> coffee pot had the bottom fall out and splash them down the legs with =


>> hot coffee. First one was hustled into the walk-in cooler, pants off=20
>> and ice water poured over her legs for about a half hour. Not even=20
>> redness except under the straps of her shoes (which we didn't notice=20
>> at the time). Next day, same accident to one of the guys who said he'd=

=20
>> just shake it off. No cold water for him; pants on. He missed 4 days=20
>> of work from the extreme discomfort of the scorched skin and blisters.=


>>
>> Pastorio
>>

> I've been told that you have to be very careful in removing any=20
> clothing.


If there's charring or severe blistering, clothing will need to be cut=20
off, best done by trained medfolk.

> I saw a young child bump into his mom at a Salt Lake City=20
> coffee place and get the large cup of straight out of the pot hot coffe=

e=20
> down his back. Within seconds pitchers of ice water were dumped on the =


> area and a ice water wet towel full of ice was applied over his shirt. =


> Did your patrons say anything about clothing?


Several of my patrons were pleased when the server whisked off her=20
pants. Otherwise there were no comments about wardrobe.

Pastorio


PENMART01 13-06-2004 01:38 AM

Burns
 
> Deacon deacon_2002 wrote:

"Bob (this one)" >
>wrote:
>
>>Lynne wrote:
>>
>>> Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will take
>>> the pain away?

>>
>>Cold. Ice water or ice wrapped in a towel. All that stuff about butter
>>and creams is nonsense. Old ways that have been superseded by better ones.
>>
>>Working in professional kitchens means frequent burns. The trauma unit
>>of a local hospital had their X-mas banquet in my place one year. I
>>spilled hot oil (fondue pot - 365°F) on my hand in the room where they
>>were. One of them immediately pushed my hand into a big pitcher of
>>iced tea and walked me back to the kitchen that way. Hand got numb
>>pretty quickly. Tea was all down the front of my pants and that cost
>>me a lot of razzing over the next week or so.
>>
>>Back in the kitchen, a nurse put a fair amount of ice into a plastic
>>bag, put a little water in it and put my hand into it. Closed it
>>around my wrist and told me to keep it that way for 4 hours,
>>replenishing the ice as needed to keep it all very cold. Said to take
>>the hand out for about 5 minutes (or until the pain got to be too
>>much) every 15 minutes or so for circulation.
>>
>>Did what she told me. No blisters, no sloughing off of skin. A little
>>redness that disappeared in about 24 hours.
>>
>>The burn was fairly extensive and would have been serious had they not
>>acted as quickly as they did. After that, our standard kitchen
>>treatment was cold. Ice first then water as needed. Our incidence of
>>serious injury diminished drastically.
>>
>>The value of that approach was made very clear a while later. The same
>>accident happened to two people a day apart. Server picking up a glass
>>coffee pot had the bottom fall out and splash them down the legs with
>>hot coffee. First one was hustled into the walk-in cooler, pants off
>>and ice water poured over her legs for about a half hour. Not even
>>redness except under the straps of her shoes (which we didn't notice
>>at the time). Next day, same accident to one of the guys who said he'd
>>just shake it off. No cold water for him; pants on. He missed 4 days
>>of work from the extreme discomfort of the scorched skin and blisters.
>>
>>Pastorio

>
>Bob, how long ago did this occur? I can definitely tellyou that
>keeping a body part on ice for four hours is not taught anymore for
>burn treatment. Cold water until the burning sensation subsides is
>all you need, don't use ice as it can cause further tissue death.
>
>Burn treatment has evolved quite a bit in the last few years....


That's a dumb *LYING* greaseball WOP for ya.

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---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
````````````

Peter Aitken 13-06-2004 01:42 AM

Burns
 
"Bob (this one)" > wrote in message
...

If there's charring or severe blistering, clothing will need to be cut
off, best done by trained medfolk.

Exactly what clothing would you cut off for a burned finger (what the OP was
asking about)?


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.



Bob (this one) 13-06-2004 01:42 AM

Burns
 
Deacon wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 12:21:43 -0400, "Bob (this one)"
> > wrote:
>=20
>> Working in professional kitchens means frequent burns. The trauma
>> unit of a local hospital had their X-mas banquet in my place one
>> year. I spilled hot oil (fondue pot - 365=B0F) on my hand in the
>> room where they were. One of them immediately pushed my hand into
>> a big pitcher of iced tea and walked me back to the kitchen that
>> way. Hand got numb pretty quickly. Tea was all down the front of
>> my pants and that cost me a lot of razzing over the next week or
>> so.
>>=20
>> Back in the kitchen, a nurse put a fair amount of ice into a
>> plastic bag, put a little water in it and put my hand into it.
>> Closed it around my wrist and told me to keep it that way for 4
>> hours, replenishing the ice as needed to keep it all very cold.
>> Said to take the hand out for about 5 minutes (or until the pain
>> got to be too much) every 15 minutes or so for circulation.
>>=20
>> Did what she told me. No blisters, no sloughing off of skin. A
>> little redness that disappeared in about 24 hours.
>>=20
>> The burn was fairly extensive and would have been serious had
>> they not acted as quickly as they did. After that, our standard
>> kitchen treatment was cold. Ice first then water as needed. Our
>> incidence of serious injury diminished drastically.




> Bob, how long ago did this occur? I can definitely tell you that=20
> keeping a body part on ice for four hours is not taught anymore for
> burn treatment. Cold water until the burning sensation subsides


About 10 years ago. I wasn't taught anything about burn treatment, I=20
saw that this thing worked, so I did it.

I don't mean this to sound as brusque as it seems, but I can tell you=20
that being burned is an excruciating pain and anything that stops it=20
is fine with me.

I kept the hand cold until it didn't hurt anymore; not always in ice.=20
First, ice, then ice water and then cold tap water. Then, when it=20
didn't hurt any more, I stopped.

> is all you need, don't use ice as it can cause further tissue
> death.


I guess I didn't understand the potential for that, but at that time,=20
I didn't care if I lost some tissue as long as I didn't have to endure=20
the pain. She told me to keep it cold but to give it a breather every=20
few minutes. That's when I could find out if it was still painful.=20
While it was hurting, I kept it cold. After it wasn't, I stopped.

That hot oil on the back of my hand was astoundingly painful; it=20
literally hurt so badly that I couldn't breathe or talk for a while.=20
Found myself trembling as the shock began to wear off; not from the=20
cold on my hand. The burn covered the area between my wrist and the=20
beginning of my fingers, side to side; a good 4 inches by 4 inches=20
splashed with hot oil.

I kept it cold until it didn't hurt anymore and unless there's a=20
better way to deal with it, would do exactly the same today. I just=20
wanted that literally searing pain to stop. I've had some very serious=20
injuries in my life, but nothing hurt as bad as that burn.

> Burn treatment has evolved quite a bit in the last few years....


What's suggested nowadays? It's not a subject I keep up on. Probably=20
ought to look into it.

Pastorio


diane 13-06-2004 02:39 AM

Burns
 
Ok Laugh as you may but as an experienced restaurant cook for the
last 25 years I will let you in on my secret...Mustard!!! There is
always a bottle handy and if put on immediatley, before anything else...
it works....let it set for about 10 or 15 minutes, longer if possible.
Trust me, it will get red and irritated but it will not blister!! I have
scalded myself with boiling water, had grease from the fryer and
grease off the flattop splash up at me..bad burns but no blisters and no
infections...had a old home-ec teacher show me this trick years ago and
I swear by it...sorry for the intrusion but have been lurking around
here for a long time and had to put in my 2 cents


telmgren 13-06-2004 02:48 AM

Burns
 

"Lynne" > wrote in message
...
> Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will take
> the pain away?
>


Ouch!! I hope it's feeling better now. My cure is to run it under water,
apply aloe vera and if it still burns take one Tylenol.



Miche 13-06-2004 04:50 AM

Burns
 
In article >,
"Bob (this one)" > wrote:

> Deacon wrote:


> > Burn treatment has evolved quite a bit in the last few years....

>
> What's suggested nowadays? It's not a subject I keep up on. Probably
> ought to look into it.


Cold [water or other liquid], preferably running, for at least 10
minutes.

I can speak to the effectiveness of this treatment. No blisters, no
scar.

Miche

--
If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.
-- Arlo Guthrie, "Alice's Restaurant"


Tony P. 13-06-2004 05:37 AM

Burns
 
In article >,
says...
> In article >,
> "Bob (this one)" > wrote:
>
> > Deacon wrote:

>
> > > Burn treatment has evolved quite a bit in the last few years....

> >
> > What's suggested nowadays? It's not a subject I keep up on. Probably
> > ought to look into it.

>
> Cold [water or other liquid], preferably running, for at least 10
> minutes.
>
> I can speak to the effectiveness of this treatment. No blisters, no
> scar.


Yes indeed. I was stirring a rather thick sauce when the spoon snagged
on something and my hand got splashed with the sauce. Ouch!

Luckily the kitchen sink is right next to the stove, as is the fridge.
So I got cold water on it immediately. Kept it there for at least
fifteen minutes and had an ice pack in the freezer that my SO wrapped in
a towel and I placed that on it for nearly 30 minutes.

No pain, no blistering. What really makes it effective is you stop the
whole burn process by use of cold water and ice as soon as possible
after the burn occurs.


Bob (this one) 13-06-2004 07:38 AM

Burns
 
Miche wrote:
> In article >,
> "Bob (this one)" > wrote:
>
>>Deacon wrote:

>
>>>Burn treatment has evolved quite a bit in the last few years....

>>
>>What's suggested nowadays? It's not a subject I keep up on. Probably
>>ought to look into it.

>
> Cold [water or other liquid], preferably running, for at least 10
> minutes.


Why does the cold water have to be running? What's wrong with a
pitcher of ice water? How about if it still hurts badly after 10 minutes?

Pastorio

> I can speak to the effectiveness of this treatment. No blisters, no
> scar.



Bob (this one) 13-06-2004 07:39 AM

Burns
 
Peter Aitken wrote:
> "Bob (this one)" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> If there's charring or severe blistering, clothing will need to be cut
> off, best done by trained medfolk.
>
> Exactly what clothing would you cut off for a burned finger (what the OP was
> asking about)?


Well, first I would cut off her shirt. Then her pants. After that
there would be burned stuff all over the place, especially if my wife
happened by...

Peter, please don't be so obtuse. The rest of the context was talking
about general treatments for burns and removal of clothing over
affected parts. The discussion had gone well past the original post's
question.

Pastorio


Katra 13-06-2004 08:14 AM

Burns
 
In article >,
Deacon > wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 12:21:43 -0400, "Bob (this one)" >
> wrote:
>
> >Lynne wrote:
> >
> >> Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will take
> >> the pain away?

> >
> >Cold. Ice water or ice wrapped in a towel. All that stuff about butter
> >and creams is nonsense. Old ways that have been superseded by better ones.
> >
> >Working in professional kitchens means frequent burns. The trauma unit
> >of a local hospital had their X-mas banquet in my place one year. I
> >spilled hot oil (fondue pot - 365°F) on my hand in the room where they
> >were. One of them immediately pushed my hand into a big pitcher of
> >iced tea and walked me back to the kitchen that way. Hand got numb
> >pretty quickly. Tea was all down the front of my pants and that cost
> >me a lot of razzing over the next week or so.
> >
> >Back in the kitchen, a nurse put a fair amount of ice into a plastic
> >bag, put a little water in it and put my hand into it. Closed it
> >around my wrist and told me to keep it that way for 4 hours,
> >replenishing the ice as needed to keep it all very cold. Said to take
> >the hand out for about 5 minutes (or until the pain got to be too
> >much) every 15 minutes or so for circulation.
> >
> >Did what she told me. No blisters, no sloughing off of skin. A little
> >redness that disappeared in about 24 hours.
> >
> >The burn was fairly extensive and would have been serious had they not
> >acted as quickly as they did. After that, our standard kitchen
> >treatment was cold. Ice first then water as needed. Our incidence of
> >serious injury diminished drastically.
> >
> >The value of that approach was made very clear a while later. The same
> >accident happened to two people a day apart. Server picking up a glass
> >coffee pot had the bottom fall out and splash them down the legs with
> >hot coffee. First one was hustled into the walk-in cooler, pants off
> >and ice water poured over her legs for about a half hour. Not even
> >redness except under the straps of her shoes (which we didn't notice
> >at the time). Next day, same accident to one of the guys who said he'd
> >just shake it off. No cold water for him; pants on. He missed 4 days
> >of work from the extreme discomfort of the scorched skin and blisters.
> >
> >Pastorio

>
> Bob, how long ago did this occur? I can definitely tellyou that
> keeping a body part on ice for four hours is not taught anymore for
> burn treatment. Cold water until the burning sensation subsides is
> all you need, don't use ice as it can cause further tissue death.
>
> Burn treatment has evolved quite a bit in the last few years....


Yes, it has indeed...
I have nothing to gain from promoting emu oil for burns as my birds are
only pets. I do make a little money off of their feathers on ebay, but
it hardly covers their feed. ;-) They are pets and emus must be
slaughtered to harvest the oil from the body fat. It's the most valuable
part of the bird. I don't raise them for meat anymore and sell any
chicks that Oberon my rooster may hatch each season. I ain't gonna kill
my lovlies!

I have personally experienced the results of using just that on burns
and insect bites, nothing else.

I know it sounds radical and silly, but I've had white skin showing
second degree cooking burns and applying emu oil within minutes of
getting the injury has taken away the pain in less than 5 minutes every
time and prevented blistering. When you burn yourself, you've killed a
layer of skin no matter what you do and it will peel off in good time.
I've never, ever ended up with oozing wounds or scarring when I use emu
oil.

It has also taken away the pain within just a few minutes from wasp
stings to my hands, and fire ant bites on my feet.

It is truly wonderful stuff.

http://wi.essortment.com/emuoilhomeopat_rvev.htm
http://www.kcweb.com/herb/emu_wonder.htm
http://homepages.tig.com.au/~aussipol/emuoil.html
http://www.efeatherstone.com/eabout.htm

Studies have proven emu oil to be far more effective than Silvadene
on even 3rd degree burns to reduce or prevent scarring.

I have friends at work now that swear by it for diaper rash on babies,
and sunburns on both kids and adults.

K.

--
Sprout the Mung Bean to reply...

>,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,<


http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra

David Hare-Scott 13-06-2004 08:40 AM

Burns
 

"Katra" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Lynne" > wrote:
>
> > Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will

take
> > the pain away?

>
> Emu oil. Seriously...
>



Do you have any idea how much stress the poor emus go through when they make
them sweat to produce that product? If you knew you would never touch the
stuff again. Emu oil is most idealogically unsound.

David



Katra 13-06-2004 08:55 AM

Burns
 
In article >,
"David Hare-Scott" > wrote:

> "Katra" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > "Lynne" > wrote:
> >
> > > Iburnt my finger in the frying pan and it hurts like mad. what will

> take
> > > the pain away?

> >
> > Emu oil. Seriously...
> >

>
>
> Do you have any idea how much stress the poor emus go through when they make
> them sweat to produce that product? If you knew you would never touch the
> stuff again. Emu oil is most idealogically unsound.
>
> David
>
>


What stress?
A bullet behind the eye usually takes care of it instantly. ;-)

And emu meat is delicious.

I'm sure you were just kidding. Emu oil is rendered from the body fat.
The average slaughter age emu can produce up to 5 gallons of oil if it's
fed properly.

--
Sprout the Mung Bean to reply...

>,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,<


http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra

Miche 13-06-2004 09:00 AM

Burns
 
In article >,
"Bob (this one)" > wrote:

> Miche wrote:
> > In article >,
> > "Bob (this one)" > wrote:
> >
> >>Deacon wrote:

> >
> >>>Burn treatment has evolved quite a bit in the last few years....
> >>
> >>What's suggested nowadays? It's not a subject I keep up on. Probably
> >>ought to look into it.

> >
> > Cold [water or other liquid], preferably running, for at least 10
> > minutes.

>
> Why does the cold water have to be running? What's wrong with a
> pitcher of ice water? How about if it still hurts badly after 10 minutes?


I said _preferably_ running. And it's so the water doesn't become warm.
Ice water may be cold enough to cause damage to the skin (which is why
the current advice is _not_ to put ice on a burn). If it still hurts
after 10 minutes, keep going till it doesn't hurt. That's why I said
_at least_ 10 minutes.

Miche

--
If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.
-- Arlo Guthrie, "Alice's Restaurant"


JimLane 13-06-2004 09:03 AM

Burns
 
Katra wrote:

snip

>
> And emu meat is delicious.
>


Sure is. Had some chargrilled skewers of emu and they were very good.


jim

Katra 13-06-2004 09:19 AM

Burns
 
In article >,
JimLane > wrote:

> Katra wrote:
>
> snip
>
> >
> > And emu meat is delicious.
> >

>
> Sure is. Had some chargrilled skewers of emu and they were very good.
>
>
> jim


How were they marinated?
I like to use pineapple juice.

K.

--
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>,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,<


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Deacon 13-06-2004 12:44 PM

Burns
 
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 20:42:53 -0400, "Bob (this one)" >
wrote:

>
>
>> Bob, how long ago did this occur? I can definitely tell you that
>> keeping a body part on ice for four hours is not taught anymore for
>> burn treatment. Cold water until the burning sensation subsides

>
>About 10 years ago. I wasn't taught anything about burn treatment, I
>saw that this thing worked, so I did it.
>
>I don't mean this to sound as brusque as it seems, but I can tell you
>that being burned is an excruciating pain and anything that stops it
>is fine with me.
>
>I kept the hand cold until it didn't hurt anymore; not always in ice.
>First, ice, then ice water and then cold tap water. Then, when it
>didn't hurt any more, I stopped.
>
>> is all you need, don't use ice as it can cause further tissue
>> death.

>
>I guess I didn't understand the potential for that, but at that time,
>I didn't care if I lost some tissue as long as I didn't have to endure
>the pain. She told me to keep it cold but to give it a breather every
>few minutes. That's when I could find out if it was still painful.
>While it was hurting, I kept it cold. After it wasn't, I stopped.


That is the right thing to do, just alternate between the cooling and
not cooling.

>
>That hot oil on the back of my hand was astoundingly painful; it
>literally hurt so badly that I couldn't breathe or talk for a while.
>Found myself trembling as the shock began to wear off; not from the
>cold on my hand. The burn covered the area between my wrist and the
>beginning of my fingers, side to side; a good 4 inches by 4 inches
>splashed with hot oil.
>
>I kept it cold until it didn't hurt anymore and unless there's a
>better way to deal with it, would do exactly the same today. I just
>wanted that literally searing pain to stop. I've had some very serious
>injuries in my life, but nothing hurt as bad as that burn.


When they don't hurt you are really in trouble....

>
>> Burn treatment has evolved quite a bit in the last few years....

>
>What's suggested nowadays? It's not a subject I keep up on. Probably
>ought to look into it.


My earlier post is the recommended home treatment for superficial and
partial thickness burns without the skin being broken...take a look
and see if that makes sense, cooling too long or with material that is
too cold is worse than not cooling at all. By immediate cooling you
reduce the tissue degradation...

>
>Pastorio




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