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limey 13-06-2005 08:19 PM

Great news - Crash is home!
 
That's wonderful, Carol. I tried to post through Google but messed up
somehow. I had tried to find your OT - Crash Update post yesterday but it
disappeared somewhere.

Anyway, tell Crash to take it slow and easy and do his exercises faithfully,
even if they hurt like hell. I had knee replacement about 18 months ago -
at the time, the surgeon said, "For the first three months, you will wonder
why on earth you had the surgery. At the end of six months, you'll forget
you had."
I feel all Crash's pain but it *will* get better.

Dora

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Sheldon 13-06-2005 10:21 PM



limey wrote:
> That's wonderful, Carol. I tried to post through Google but messed up
> somehow. I had tried to find your OT - Crash Update post yesterday but it
> disappeared somewhere.
>
> Anyway, tell Crash to take it slow and easy and do his exercises faithfully,
> even if they hurt like hell. I had knee replacement about 18 months ago -
> at the time, the surgeon said, "For the first three months, you will wonder
> why on earth you had the surgery. At the end of six months, you'll forget
> you had."
> I feel all Crash's pain but it *will* get better.



Any surgery is physically painful at post-op, that's a given, and some
worse than others. Physical pain wise these two are right up there
with the worst of the worst; having a pilonidal cyst removed and having
a deviated septum repaired along with a turbinate modification.
Fortunately neither is particularly life threatening... but the pain is
unimaginably intense (nothing can prepare for what comes) and lasts a
long, loooooong time. But when adressed in an adult-like manor the
actual physical pain is not so terrible compared with the emotional
pain experienced by those with low emotional threshholds, which is what
I see demonstrated in this particular case. Try to stay strong,
Crash... you're breathing, the worst is over.

http://www.pedisurg.com/PtEduc/Pilonidal_Cyst.htm

http://www.ent-consult.com/turbinatesurgery.html

Sheldon


Dimitri 13-06-2005 10:37 PM


"Sheldon" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
>
> limey wrote:
>> That's wonderful, Carol. I tried to post through Google but messed up
>> somehow. I had tried to find your OT - Crash Update post yesterday but it
>> disappeared somewhere.
>>
>> Anyway, tell Crash to take it slow and easy and do his exercises faithfully,
>> even if they hurt like hell. I had knee replacement about 18 months ago -
>> at the time, the surgeon said, "For the first three months, you will wonder
>> why on earth you had the surgery. At the end of six months, you'll forget
>> you had."
>> I feel all Crash's pain but it *will* get better.

>
>
> Any surgery is physically painful at post-op, that's a given, and some
> worse than others. Physical pain wise these two are right up there
> with the worst of the worst; having a pilonidal cyst removed and having
> a deviated septum repaired along with a turbinate modification.
> Fortunately neither is particularly life threatening... but the pain is
> unimaginably intense (nothing can prepare for what comes) and lasts a
> long, loooooong time. But when adressed in an adult-like manor the
> actual physical pain is not so terrible compared with the emotional
> pain experienced by those with low emotional threshholds, which is what
> I see demonstrated in this particular case. Try to stay strong,
> Crash... you're breathing, the worst is over.
>
> http://www.pedisurg.com/PtEduc/Pilonidal_Cyst.htm
>
> http://www.ent-consult.com/turbinatesurgery.html
>
> Sheldon


Amen!

Many years ago I had all the cartilage removed from my right knee. The incision
runs about 6 inches - this was not a Band-Aid surgery. The perception from
movies and television is that the drugs take care of everything and surgery is
like falling off a log. Nothing could be farther from the truth. I woke up
from the general and asked "Who the F*** hit me in the knee with a sledge
hammer." Damn it hurt. I can not imagine Crash and what he went through.

Hang in there.


Dimitri



Damsel 13-06-2005 11:55 PM

"Dimitri" > said:

>Many years ago I had all the cartilage removed from my right knee. The incision
>runs about 6 inches - this was not a Band-Aid surgery. The perception from
>movies and television is that the drugs take care of everything and surgery is
>like falling off a log. Nothing could be farther from the truth. I woke up
>from the general and asked "Who the F*** hit me in the knee with a sledge
>hammer." Damn it hurt. I can not imagine Crash and what he went through.


Yeah, everyone kept telling him about the pain relief from the original
bone disease. No one got into the post-op pain, so he was shocked at the
pain. On the other hand, he had anywhere from 10-20 on the 0-10 pain scale
before the surgery. The last 2-3 days, it's been averaging about 7. So he
hurts, and he's not happy about it, but it's far less than what he was
suffering before. It's just a different kind of pain.

Crash's favorite quote was, "Mother-F***!"

I don't know if I mentioned that Kidzilla couldn't visit him in the
hospital because her aunt was dying of lung cancer. Crash is on the phone
with Kidzilla now. Her aunt passed today. Yesterday was Kidzilla's 18th
birthday, and today is her mother's birthday. Kidzilla's mother and aunt
were sisters. Crash's ex (not ex-wife) and his daughter called within 2
minutes of each other, on different phones. Crash is the kind of guy who
has an ex that leans on him when she's in need.

This is horrible, and it makes me feel selfish because I wish I weren't
doing some cleaning up that I'd rather not. Crash isn't up to the 4 hour
drive each way, so we can only attend the memorial service in spirit.

Must run ... he's already calling me Nurse Ratchet.

Carol

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Damsel 14-06-2005 12:06 AM

"Sheldon" > said:

>But when adressed in an adult-like manor the
>actual physical pain is not so terrible compared with the emotional
>pain experienced by those with low emotional threshholds, which is what
>I see demonstrated in this particular case.


Thanks. This was particularly traumatic for him because of those issues.
Next time, we'll be prepared. The medications will be planned for and I
think he'll do much better. It *has* been a nightmare, but we've learned a
lot from it. At this point, he's still saying he's not going to have the
other side done (like he even has that option, given the bone disease). I
think that once the surgical pain is gone, he might be more willing to go
ahead with the other hip. Or, he may just decide to wait until the other
hip is unbearably painful. Fear can be crippling. Literally.

>Try to stay strong, Crash... you're breathing, the worst is over.


Amen. :)
Carol

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Damsel 14-06-2005 12:31 AM

"limey" > said:

>Anyway, tell Crash to take it slow and easy and do his exercises faithfully,
>even if they hurt like hell.


He's very willing to do anything and everything it'll take to feel better.
Personally, I'm a wimp that way, but he seems to be a real fighter. I
think the biggest problems with the exercises to date have been because he
was too drugged up to be able to consciously direct his body to do what it
needed to do. I think he'll make much faster progress now.

>I had knee replacement about 18 months ago -
>at the time, the surgeon said, "For the first three months, you will wonder
>why on earth you had the surgery. At the end of six months, you'll forget
>you had."


I'll pass that along. His knees are in really bad shape, too.

>I feel all Crash's pain but it *will* get better.


I'll let him know. Actually, I'm going to try to get him to Google "his"
threads.

Thanks!
Carol

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Dimitri 14-06-2005 12:54 AM


"Damsel" > wrote in message
...
> "Dimitri" > said:


<snip>



> Must run ... he's already calling me Nurse Ratchet.
>
> Carol


Good that's what you have to be (Nurse Ratchet). I don't know what the 'going
home orders were but I'll bet they were not "complete bed rest" - A little
sympathy goes a long way - after that you can tell him to get up and get it
himself.

LOL

;-)

Dimitri



Karen AKA Kajikit 14-06-2005 03:04 AM

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:55:29 -0500, Damsel >
wrote:

>Yeah, everyone kept telling him about the pain relief from the original
>bone disease. No one got into the post-op pain, so he was shocked at the
>pain. On the other hand, he had anywhere from 10-20 on the 0-10 pain scale
>before the surgery. The last 2-3 days, it's been averaging about 7. So he
>hurts, and he's not happy about it, but it's far less than what he was
>suffering before. It's just a different kind of pain.
>
>Crash's favorite quote was, "Mother-F***!"


Damsel, it's great that Crash was able to come home from the
hospital... I know you've both been having a rough trot with this op,
but things will get better from here.

--
~Karen aka Kajikit
Crafts, cats, and chocolate - the three essentials of life
http://www.kajikitscorner.com

[email protected] 14-06-2005 03:34 AM

So a little bitty visit from me and he is ready to go home!!!!!!!!

Tell him we have a date for mexican... you can even come along!!!!!

Pam


Damsel 14-06-2005 03:41 AM

said:

>So a little bitty visit from me and he is ready to go home!!!!!!!!
>
>Tell him we have a date for mexican... you can even come along!!!!!


Sounds good. I've had my eye on Barb for some time now, you know. ;)

Carol

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Damsel 14-06-2005 03:50 AM

said:

>So a little bitty visit from me and he is ready to go home!!!!!!!!
>
>Tell him we have a date for mexican... you can even come along!!!!!
>
>Pam


Oh, and thanks again for taking me on a break from the hospital and feeding
me great Mexican food. That restaurant was a real find! I can't wait
until Crash gets his appetite back so I can take him there. Or even bring
home some take-out. My shredded beef chimichangas were excellent, and I
loved the tamale that you shared. Yup, I'm pretty sure there was cinnamon
in there.

Crash wants the cowboy boots with a cannabis leaf on them (we went to a
little Mexican store that sold food and shoes when Pam and Barb came for
their visit). Somehow, I can't picture him putting on a pair of cowboy
boots, can you?

Carol

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Son Volt 14-06-2005 05:18 AM

Sheldon wrote:

> Physical pain wise these two are right up there
> with the worst of the worst; having a pilonidal cyst removed
>
> http://www.pedisurg.com/PtEduc/Pilonidal_Cyst.htm
>
> Sheldon


Yup, had this about 4 years ago. Worst pain in my life... They actually
gave me something to bite down on in the doctors office while they
lanced it. I felt more pain from the administering of the local
anesthetic than from the actual lancing itself. Let's just say everyone
in the hospital heard my screams that day... *everyone*

~john

biig 14-06-2005 01:21 PM



Damsel wrote:
>
> "Sheldon" > said:
>
> >But when adressed in an adult-like manor the
> >actual physical pain is not so terrible compared with the emotional
> >pain experienced by those with low emotional threshholds, which is what
> >I see demonstrated in this particular case.

>
> Thanks. This was particularly traumatic for him because of those issues.
> Next time, we'll be prepared. The medications will be planned for and I
> think he'll do much better. It *has* been a nightmare, but we've learned a
> lot from it. At this point, he's still saying he's not going to have the
> other side done (like he even has that option, given the bone disease). I
> think that once the surgical pain is gone, he might be more willing to go
> ahead with the other hip. Or, he may just decide to wait until the other
> hip is unbearably painful. Fear can be crippling. Literally.


That's especially true. I had to have a scope (top and bottom) I'm a
gagger and was petrified about the throat part...so much so that my
blood pressure was 240 over something (I was in such bad shape that I
don't recall the lower number) I could have "stroked out" over the
fear....

Sharon
>
> >Try to stay strong, Crash... you're breathing, the worst is over.

>
> Amen. :)
> Carol
>
> --
> CLICK DAILY TO FEED THE HUNGRY
> United States:
> http://www.stopthehunger.com/
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> http://www.thehungersite.com/


Shaun aRe 14-06-2005 04:20 PM


"Damsel" > wrote in message
...

Real glad for both of you he's back now Carol - here's to the pain being as
little as it can be, and the recovery being as fast as it can be.

> Crash's favorite quote was, "Mother-F***!"


Heh, I know that one - hardly surprising.





Shaun aRe
--
May all your wishes be both wise and fulfilled.



Sarah 14-06-2005 10:39 PM


"Damsel" > wrote in message > Yeah, everyone kept telling
him about the pain relief from the original
> bone disease. No one got into the post-op pain, so he was shocked at the
> pain. On the other hand, he had anywhere from 10-20 on the 0-10 pain scale
> before the surgery. The last 2-3 days, it's been averaging about 7. So he
> hurts, and he's not happy about it, but it's far less than what he was
> suffering before. It's just a different kind of pain.
>
> Crash's favorite quote was, "Mother-F***!"
>

AND it's MAN PAIN! Men suffer far worse pain than women Dams.. I thought you
knew that by now! :)
Sarah



LynneA 15-06-2005 12:11 AM


"Sarah" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Damsel" > wrote in message > Yeah, everyone kept
> telling him about the pain relief from the original
>> bone disease. No one got into the post-op pain, so he was shocked at the
>> pain. On the other hand, he had anywhere from 10-20 on the 0-10 pain
>> scale
>> before the surgery. The last 2-3 days, it's been averaging about 7. So
>> he
>> hurts, and he's not happy about it, but it's far less than what he was
>> suffering before. It's just a different kind of pain.
>>
>> Crash's favorite quote was, "Mother-F***!"
>>

> AND it's MAN PAIN! Men suffer far worse pain than women Dams.. I thought
> you knew that by now! :)
> Sarah
>


Ok, I am LMAO off at this one! DH FINALLY admitted I was in horrible pain
when my disc blew, AFTER he ended up with a couple of compressed discs-yes,
sometimes there IS justice!LOL

Lynne A





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