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anna maria 27-04-2004 06:22 AM

strange plant
 
I was in Rome last february and I took several pictures in the Campo de'
Fiori farmers market. Today I was looking at the pictures and I saw on
one of them a strange plant I didn't notice before.

I am publishing part of the picture at this address

http://www.annamariavolpi.com/misterious_plant.html

The plant looks like a gigantic sage with leaves about one foot long. I
have never seen it before.

Does anyone know what it is?

Ciao,

Anna Maria


http://www.annamariavolpi.com/page28.html


PENMART01 27-04-2004 01:53 PM

strange plant
 
>: anna maria
>
>I was in Rome last february and I took several pictures in the Campo de'
>Fiori farmers market. Today I was looking at the pictures and I saw on
>one of them a strange plant I didn't notice before.
>
>I am publishing part of the picture at this address
>
>http://www.annamariavolpi.com/misterious_plant.html
>
>The plant looks like a gigantic sage with leaves about one foot long. I
>have never seen it before.
>
>Does anyone know what it is?
>
>http://www.annamariavolpi.com/page28.html


Looks like the herb being discussed last week; bear's garlic or some such.

http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katz...?Alli_urs.html


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anna maria 29-04-2004 03:30 PM

strange plant
 
anna maria wrote:
> I was in Rome last february and I took several pictures in the Campo de'
> Fiori farmers market. Today I was looking at the pictures and I saw on
> one of them a strange plant I didn't notice before.
>
> I am publishing part of the picture at this address
>
> http://www.annamariavolpi.com/misterious_plant.html
>
> The plant looks like a gigantic sage with leaves about one foot long. I
> have never seen it before.
>
> Does anyone know what it is?
>
> Ciao,
>
> Anna Maria
>
>
> http://www.annamariavolpi.com/page28.html
>


I posted on the Italian food newsgroup and discovered that this plant is
a sage! I have never seen it so big, but apparently few varieties of
sage of this type come from Southern America. One of the posters said
she has a sage plant with leaves up to 8 inch long. There is a recipe
for fried sage leaves in Italian cooking and she said this is the best
variety to use for it.

Ciao,

Anna Maria


http://www.annamariavolpi.com/page28.html


PENMART01 29-04-2004 06:38 PM

strange plant
 
>anna maria follows up her own post:
>
>anna maria wrote:
>> I was in Rome last february and I took several pictures in the Campo de'
>> Fiori farmers market. Today I was looking at the pictures and I saw on
>> one of them a strange plant I didn't notice before.
>>
>> I am publishing part of the picture at this address
>>
>> http://www.annamariavolpi.com/misterious_plant.html
>>
>> The plant looks like a gigantic sage with leaves about one foot long. I
>> have never seen it before.
>>
>> Does anyone know what it is?
>> http://www.annamariavolpi.com/page28.html
>>

>
>I posted on the Italian food newsgroup and discovered that this plant is
>a sage! I have never seen it so big, but apparently few varieties of
>sage of this type come from Southern America. One of the posters said
>she has a sage plant with leaves up to 8 inch long. There is a recipe
>for fried sage leaves in Italian cooking and she said this is the best
>variety to use for it.


Your photo depicted no kind of sage plant I've ever seen, not even close, sage
just doesn't grow like that nor do sage leaves have that texture... now that
I've looked more carefully they look exactly like beet greens... you need to
substantiate your claim about giant sage with documentation from some
independant botanical site, and post the link here.


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cristina 30-04-2004 08:06 AM

strange plant
 
anna maria wrote:
> I posted on the Italian food newsgroup and discovered that this plant
> is a sage! I have never seen it so big, but apparently few varieties
> of
> sage of this type come from Southern America. One of the posters said
> she has a sage plant with leaves up to 8 inch long. There is a recipe
> for fried sage leaves in Italian cooking and she said this is the best
> variety to use for it.


I have the large leaf sage in my orto and it looks nothing like the plant in
the picture. I'll see if I notice something like it at the market next
Wednesday but it could be specific to Ropme. I will also ask one of my
friends who is a food dfanatic in Milano if she knows of it.

--
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Info on Moving to Italy and Driving in Italy



PENMART01 30-04-2004 01:46 PM

strange plant
 
>I have the large leaf sage in my orto and it looks nothing like the plant in
>the picture. I'll see if I notice something like it at the market next
>Wednesday but it could be specific to Ropme. I will also ask one of my
>friends who is a food dfanatic in Milano if she knows of it.
>
>Cristina
>http://www.chianti-ass


Noting you diskover wiell bee accureate... you need to lei off the dago red.


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cristina 30-04-2004 02:01 PM

strange plant
 
PENMART01 wrote:
> Noting you diskover wiell bee accureate... you need to lei off the
> dago red.


Take your pills Shelly!

Cristina




PENMART01 30-04-2004 02:41 PM

strange plant
 
>Take your pills Shelly!
>
>Cristina


Shaddup, Cristina... you stinkin', filthy, dirty, unbathed, hirsute, common
WOP!


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A.C. 30-04-2004 08:34 PM

strange plant
 

"> WOP!

wop was an acronym that stood for "With Out Papers". it should only be
applied to italian americans since it implies immigration. cristina is in
italy so you'll have to come up with another racial slur to replace it. i'm
sure it won't be hard for you. try to use the aol keywords "racial slurs"



Default User 30-04-2004 09:49 PM

strange plant
 
"A.C." wrote:
>
> wop was an acronym that stood for "With Out Papers".



No.

Main Entry: wop
Pronunciation: 'wäp
Function: noun
Usage: often capitalized
Etymology: Italian dialect guappo swaggerer, tough, from Spanish guapo,
probably from Middle French dialect vape, wape weak, insipid, from Latin
vappa wine gone flat
usually disparaging : ITALIAN


Almost all of those, "this word is an acronym for . . ." deals are false
etymologies. It ain't For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge or Worthy Oriental
Gentleman or Gentlemen Only Ladies Forbidden either.



Brian Rodenborn

A.C. 30-04-2004 11:31 PM

strange plant
 
> "A.C." wrote:
> >
> > wop was an acronym that stood for "With Out Papers".

>
>
> No.
>
> Main Entry: wop
> Pronunciation: 'wäp
> Function: noun
> Usage: often capitalized
> Etymology: Italian dialect guappo swaggerer, tough, from Spanish guapo,
> probably from Middle French dialect vape, wape weak, insipid, from Latin
> vappa wine gone flat
> usually disparaging : ITALIAN
>
>
> Almost all of those, "this word is an acronym for . . ." deals are false
> etymologies. It ain't For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge or Worthy Oriental
> Gentleman or Gentlemen Only Ladies Forbidden either.
>
>
>
> Brian Rodenborn


i stand corrected. slur away sheldon ;)



Lynn Gifford 01-05-2004 05:29 AM

strange plant
 
There's a small town about 45 miles from Fargo named Wahpeton
(pronounced wah peh tun
accent on the wah). It's a Native American name (novelist Louise
Erdrich is from the reservation close to Wahpeton) Their foot ball
team are the Wahps but I don't know how they spell it. I've seen it on
home made cheer signs spelled: Whaps.
Lynn from Fargo

anna maria 01-05-2004 06:18 AM

strange plant
 
cristina wrote:

> anna maria wrote:
>
>>I posted on the Italian food newsgroup and discovered that this plant
>>is a sage! I have never seen it so big, but apparently few varieties
>>of
>>sage of this type come from Southern America. One of the posters said
>>she has a sage plant with leaves up to 8 inch long. There is a recipe
>>for fried sage leaves in Italian cooking and she said this is the best
>>variety to use for it.

>
>
> I have the large leaf sage in my orto and it looks nothing like the plant in
> the picture. I'll see if I notice something like it at the market next
> Wednesday but it could be specific to Ropme. I will also ask one of my
> friends who is a food dfanatic in Milano if she knows of it.
>


From the answers I understand that there is a problem with the picture.
In fact the resolution was not very good and the leaves were not very
clear. I re-published that same page with 2 pics: one the full one that
can give an idea of the proportions, the other a detail of the plant at
the maximum resolution I have.

http://www.annamariavolpi.com/misterious_plant.html

May load very slowly if you have dial-up. I am investigating with
botanicat sites and I hope this will help. Now I am getting VERY
courious. I may have to ask my sister that lives in Rome to go there
again and see if she can het some info.

Ciao,

Anna Maria

PS. It looks like a sage plant.

http://www.annamariavolpi.com/page28.html


cristina 01-05-2004 07:58 AM

strange plant
 
anna maria wrote:
> May load very slowly if you have dial-up. I am investigating with
> botanicat sites and I hope this will help. Now I am getting VERY
> courious. I may have to ask my sister that lives in Rome to go there
> again and see if she can het some info.


I stand corrected! You are right, the picture made it difficult to see and
it it was weird because the stalks looked much longer due to the shadow on
the black plastic bag below it. Yes it looks like my sage plants. Take
two, place an anchovy filet in the middle, dip in batter and fry away.
Yummy!

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Info on Moving to Italy and Driving in Italy



Diane Epps 01-05-2004 02:06 PM

strange plant
 

"PENMART01" > wrote in message
...
> >anna maria follows up her own post:
> >
> >anna maria wrote:
> >> I was in Rome last february and I took several pictures in the Campo

de'
> >> Fiori farmers market. Today I was looking at the pictures and I saw on
> >> one of them a strange plant I didn't notice before.
> >>
> >> I am publishing part of the picture at this address
> >>
> >> http://www.annamariavolpi.com/misterious_plant.html
> >>
> >> The plant looks like a gigantic sage with leaves about one foot long. I
> >> have never seen it before.
> >>
> >> Does anyone know what it is?
> >> http://www.annamariavolpi.com/page28.html
> >>

> >

It is giant sage or Salvia officinalis 'Giant' as listed by the Royal
Horticultural Society plant finder guide.



PENMART01 01-05-2004 02:55 PM

strange plant
 
> "Diane Epps" writes:
>
>>anna maria wrote:
>>
>>I am publishing part of the picture at this address
>>>>http://www.annamariavolpi.com/misterious_plant.html
>> >>
>> >> The plant looks like a gigantic sage with leaves about one foot long. I
>> >> have never seen it before.
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone know what it is?
>> >

>It is giant sage or Salvia officinalis 'Giant' as listed by the Royal
>Horticultural Society plant finder guide.


Where's your URL.. ain't got one, eh? I say you are wrong.

Here is info with a picture of "Salvia officinalis"... looks nothing like the
plant in Anna's photo, her's is some kind of cooking green, a type of spinach
or beet tops.
Go he
http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katz...?Salv_off.html


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anna maria 01-05-2004 03:38 PM

strange plant
 
cristina wrote:
> anna maria wrote:
>
>>May load very slowly if you have dial-up. I am investigating with
>>botanicat sites and I hope this will help. Now I am getting VERY
>>courious. I may have to ask my sister that lives in Rome to go there
>>again and see if she can het some info.

>
>
> I stand corrected! You are right, the picture made it difficult to see and
> it it was weird because the stalks looked much longer due to the shadow on
> the black plastic bag below it. Yes it looks like my sage plants. Take
> two, place an anchovy filet in the middle, dip in batter and fry away.
> Yummy!
>


wow... sounds delicious... i am going to try it
today....

ciao,

anna maria



http://www.annamariavolpi.com/page28.html



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