PENMART01 wrote:

> Those pleated paper cups are for baking cupcakes, not muffins... muffins baked
> in those papers are ruined exactly same as would be a loaf of bread baked in a
> paper liner... NO CRUST... anyone who'd enjoy a muffin baked in paper would
> enjoy a boiled porterhouse.
>

You're correct. I was using the words muffin yet thinking cupcakes interchangeably.

Goomba

PENMART01 wrote:

> Those pleated paper cups are for baking cupcakes, not muffins... muffins baked
> in those papers are ruined exactly same as would be a loaf of bread baked in a
> paper liner... NO CRUST... anyone who'd enjoy a muffin baked in paper would
> enjoy a boiled porterhouse.
>

You're correct. I was using the words muffin yet thinking cupcakes interchangeably.

Goomba

>Goomba38 wrote:
>
>PENMART01 wrote:
>
>> Those pleated paper cups are for baking cupcakes, not muffins... muffins
>baked
>> in those papers are ruined exactly same as would be a loaf of bread baked
>in a
>> paper liner... NO CRUST... anyone who'd enjoy a muffin baked in paper would
>> enjoy a boiled porterhouse.
>>
>
>You're correct. I was using the words muffin yet thinking cupcakes
>interchangeably.

I love your muffins.


---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
Sheldon
````````````
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

>Goomba38 wrote:
>
>PENMART01 wrote:
>
>> Those pleated paper cups are for baking cupcakes, not muffins... muffins
>baked
>> in those papers are ruined exactly same as would be a loaf of bread baked
>in a
>> paper liner... NO CRUST... anyone who'd enjoy a muffin baked in paper would
>> enjoy a boiled porterhouse.
>>
>
>You're correct. I was using the words muffin yet thinking cupcakes
>interchangeably.

I love your muffins.


---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
Sheldon
````````````
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

A mukluk wearing troll > wrote:

> Personally, I don't use papers. I oil and flour the tin itself - once
> baked, I quickly run a knife around and pop them out while still warm.
> (run the knife witth the blunt edge first if using no-stick tins.
>
> Muffin papers are a waste.

They are most certainly NOT!!! a waste if you're planning to put them
in school lunches, carry them somewhere, or freeze them.

Additionally, they stop fruit muffins from sticking to the pan. Flour
and oil don't.

wd39

A mukluk wearing troll > wrote:

> Personally, I don't use papers. I oil and flour the tin itself - once
> baked, I quickly run a knife around and pop them out while still warm.
> (run the knife witth the blunt edge first if using no-stick tins.
>
> Muffin papers are a waste.

They are most certainly NOT!!! a waste if you're planning to put them
in school lunches, carry them somewhere, or freeze them.

Additionally, they stop fruit muffins from sticking to the pan. Flour
and oil don't.

wd39

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:38:58 -0500, A mukluk wearing troll
> wrote:

>
> Muffin papers are a waste.

I think they're festive.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:38:58 -0500, A mukluk wearing troll
> wrote:

>
> Muffin papers are a waste.

I think they're festive.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On 26 Mar 2004 22:48:25 GMT, (Nancree)
wrote:

> >Brian Macke wrote:
> >
> >> A natural hatred for trees?
> >
> >
> >Bingo!
> >
> >~john
> -------------------------------
> nobody knows what you're talking about. Please post.

Some news servers are faster than others, you'll get the
complete picture in a couple of hours.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On 26 Mar 2004 22:48:25 GMT, (Nancree)
wrote:

> >Brian Macke wrote:
> >
> >> A natural hatred for trees?
> >
> >
> >Bingo!
> >
> >~john
> -------------------------------
> nobody knows what you're talking about. Please post.

Some news servers are faster than others, you'll get the
complete picture in a couple of hours.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:24:59 -0800, JimLane
> wrote:

> Nancree wrote:
> >>Brian Macke wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>A natural hatred for trees?
> >>
> >>
> >>Bingo!
> >>
> >>~john
> >
> > -------------------------------
> > nobody knows what you're talking about. Please post.
> >
>
> Several people do or are you megalomaniac enough so you assume because
> you don't get it, no one else will? "Nobody?" In a pig's eye.
>

You're completely off base.

IMO: The prior posts in this thread didn't appear when she
downloaded her new headers. She's obviously on a different
and slower news server.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:24:59 -0800, JimLane
> wrote:

> Nancree wrote:
> >>Brian Macke wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>A natural hatred for trees?
> >>
> >>
> >>Bingo!
> >>
> >>~john
> >
> > -------------------------------
> > nobody knows what you're talking about. Please post.
> >
>
> Several people do or are you megalomaniac enough so you assume because
> you don't get it, no one else will? "Nobody?" In a pig's eye.
>

You're completely off base.

IMO: The prior posts in this thread didn't appear when she
downloaded her new headers. She's obviously on a different
and slower news server.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:32:00 -0500, Levelwave©
> wrote:

> Nancree wrote:
>
> > nobody knows what you're talking about. Please post.
>
>
> I think it's time you update that decrepit old newsreader
>
> www.mozilla.org - the best reader in the biz...
>
> ~john
>
>
> ps - download Mozilla 1.6 - newsread is included with the browser
>

Mozilla is an excellent and small (yahoo!) browser, but it
doesn't have the best newsreader around, which is why I use
Mozilla as a stand alone browser, not as integrated,
software... IMO: Agent is the BEST newsreader.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:32:00 -0500, Levelwave©
> wrote:

> Nancree wrote:
>
> > nobody knows what you're talking about. Please post.
>
>
> I think it's time you update that decrepit old newsreader
>
> www.mozilla.org - the best reader in the biz...
>
> ~john
>
>
> ps - download Mozilla 1.6 - newsread is included with the browser
>

Mozilla is an excellent and small (yahoo!) browser, but it
doesn't have the best newsreader around, which is why I use
Mozilla as a stand alone browser, not as integrated,
software... IMO: Agent is the BEST newsreader.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On 27 Mar 2004 00:30:23 GMT, (PENMART01)
wrote:

> >Goomba38 wrote:

> >You're correct. I was using the words muffin yet thinking cupcakes
> >interchangeably.
>
> I love your muffins.
>

<G>
I think we should call him Muffin from now on.



Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On 27 Mar 2004 00:30:23 GMT, (PENMART01)
wrote:

> >Goomba38 wrote:

> >You're correct. I was using the words muffin yet thinking cupcakes
> >interchangeably.
>
> I love your muffins.
>

<G>
I think we should call him Muffin from now on.



Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:04:14 -0500, "Bob (this one)"
> wrote:

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> > Do you hate the way cupcakes/muffins stick to the paper liners and pieces
> > of muffin stay on the paper?
> >
> > This has probably occurred to everyone but me, but I just tried spraying
> > pan release on the inside of the paper liner before spooning in the batter.
> > Works a treat! Paper peels off without a loose crumb.
>
> Lately, I've been using silicone muffin bakers. Looks like a normal
> muffin tin but it's flexible. Muffins pop right out. They don't brown
> on the sides like metal causes, but they're baked, so I don't really
> miss it. Of course, the sides don't brown all that much in paper cups,
> either.
>

Is that Llorente bakeware, by any chance?


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:04:14 -0500, "Bob (this one)"
> wrote:

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> > Do you hate the way cupcakes/muffins stick to the paper liners and pieces
> > of muffin stay on the paper?
> >
> > This has probably occurred to everyone but me, but I just tried spraying
> > pan release on the inside of the paper liner before spooning in the batter.
> > Works a treat! Paper peels off without a loose crumb.
>
> Lately, I've been using silicone muffin bakers. Looks like a normal
> muffin tin but it's flexible. Muffins pop right out. They don't brown
> on the sides like metal causes, but they're baked, so I don't really
> miss it. Of course, the sides don't brown all that much in paper cups,
> either.
>

Is that Llorente bakeware, by any chance?


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:51:07 -0500, "Dean G."
> wrote:

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > Do you hate the way cupcakes/muffins stick to the paper liners and pieces
> > of muffin stay on the paper?
> >
> > This has probably occurred to everyone but me, but I just tried spraying
> > pan release on the inside of the paper liner before spooning in the
> batter.
> > Works a treat! Paper peels off without a loose crumb.
> >
> > Wayne
>
> Sounds simple enough. I don't make muffins that often, but I have also found
> the foil liners are much better.
>
I thought foil "liners" (which I am only aware of as foil
lined with paper) were meant to be used when you don't have
a muffin/cupcake pan.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:51:07 -0500, "Dean G."
> wrote:

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > Do you hate the way cupcakes/muffins stick to the paper liners and pieces
> > of muffin stay on the paper?
> >
> > This has probably occurred to everyone but me, but I just tried spraying
> > pan release on the inside of the paper liner before spooning in the
> batter.
> > Works a treat! Paper peels off without a loose crumb.
> >
> > Wayne
>
> Sounds simple enough. I don't make muffins that often, but I have also found
> the foil liners are much better.
>
I thought foil "liners" (which I am only aware of as foil
lined with paper) were meant to be used when you don't have
a muffin/cupcake pan.


Practice safe eating - always use condiments

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:41:33 -0600, "Brian Macke"
> wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 03:00:29 -0500, Levelwave© wrote:
>
>> If you're going to go to that much trouble why not just toss the paper
>> cups and spray the muffin pan?
>
>Presentation? Sanitation? A natural hatred for trees?
>
>> ~john

what's the last thing a tree has done for you except to attracts urine
from your dog?

your pal,
spot

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:41:33 -0600, "Brian Macke"
> wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 03:00:29 -0500, Levelwave© wrote:
>
>> If you're going to go to that much trouble why not just toss the paper
>> cups and spray the muffin pan?
>
>Presentation? Sanitation? A natural hatred for trees?
>
>> ~john

what's the last thing a tree has done for you except to attracts urine
from your dog?

your pal,
spot

On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 05:39:41 GMT, sf > wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:32:00 -0500, Levelwave©
> wrote:
>
>> Nancree wrote:
>>
>> > nobody knows what you're talking about. Please post.
>>
>>
>> I think it's time you update that decrepit old newsreader
>>
>> www.mozilla.org - the best reader in the biz...
>>
>> ~john
>>
>>
>> ps - download Mozilla 1.6 - newsread is included with the browser
>>
>
>Mozilla is an excellent and small (yahoo!) browser, but it
>doesn't have the best newsreader around, which is why I use
>Mozilla as a stand alone browser, not as integrated,
>software... IMO: Agent is the BEST newsreader.
>

i like agent also. but get a real newsreader and stop screwing around
reading mail off the web.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 05:39:41 GMT, sf > wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:32:00 -0500, Levelwave©
> wrote:
>
>> Nancree wrote:
>>
>> > nobody knows what you're talking about. Please post.
>>
>>
>> I think it's time you update that decrepit old newsreader
>>
>> www.mozilla.org - the best reader in the biz...
>>
>> ~john
>>
>>
>> ps - download Mozilla 1.6 - newsread is included with the browser
>>
>
>Mozilla is an excellent and small (yahoo!) browser, but it
>doesn't have the best newsreader around, which is why I use
>Mozilla as a stand alone browser, not as integrated,
>software... IMO: Agent is the BEST newsreader.
>

i like agent also. but get a real newsreader and stop screwing around
reading mail off the web.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 05:39:41 GMT, sf > wrote:
>
>
>>On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:32:00 -0500, Levelwave©
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Nancree wrote:
>>>
>>> > nobody knows what you're talking about. Please post.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think it's time you update that decrepit old newsreader
>>>
>>> www.mozilla.org - the best reader in the biz...
>>>
>>> ~john
>>>
>>>
>>> ps - download Mozilla 1.6 - newsread is included with the browser
>>>
>>
>>Mozilla is an excellent and small (yahoo!) browser, but it
>>doesn't have the best newsreader around, which is why I use
>>Mozilla as a stand alone browser, not as integrated,
>>software... IMO: Agent is the BEST newsreader.
>>
>
>
> i like agent also. but get a real newsreader and stop screwing around
> reading mail off the web.
>
> your pal,
> blake


Check Mozilla's stand-alone Thunderbird. Now if all the plug-ins were
available.


jim

blake murphy wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 05:39:41 GMT, sf > wrote:
>
>
>>On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:32:00 -0500, Levelwave©
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Nancree wrote:
>>>
>>> > nobody knows what you're talking about. Please post.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think it's time you update that decrepit old newsreader
>>>
>>> www.mozilla.org - the best reader in the biz...
>>>
>>> ~john
>>>
>>>
>>> ps - download Mozilla 1.6 - newsread is included with the browser
>>>
>>
>>Mozilla is an excellent and small (yahoo!) browser, but it
>>doesn't have the best newsreader around, which is why I use
>>Mozilla as a stand alone browser, not as integrated,
>>software... IMO: Agent is the BEST newsreader.
>>
>
>
> i like agent also. but get a real newsreader and stop screwing around
> reading mail off the web.
>
> your pal,
> blake


Check Mozilla's stand-alone Thunderbird. Now if all the plug-ins were
available.


jim

sf wrote:

> Mozilla is an excellent and small (yahoo!) browser, but it
> doesn't have the best newsreader around,


Never used Agent... but what do you mean by "Yahoo!" browser?

And small? Mozilla is a HUGE resource hog...


~john

sf wrote:

> Mozilla is an excellent and small (yahoo!) browser, but it
> doesn't have the best newsreader around,


Never used Agent... but what do you mean by "Yahoo!" browser?

And small? Mozilla is a HUGE resource hog...


~john

sf wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:38:58 -0500, A mukluk wearing troll
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> Muffin papers are a waste.
>
> I think they're festive.
>
The do come in such pretty colours!

sf wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:38:58 -0500, A mukluk wearing troll
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> Muffin papers are a waste.
>
> I think they're festive.
>
The do come in such pretty colours!

(PENMART01) wrote in
:

>> Jim "Low IQ"Lane babbles:
>>
>>That paper comes from trees. Wasting
>>paper needlessly is like cutting down trees. Perhaps someone "hates"
>>trees so they want to cut them down no matter the silliness of what it
>>is used for.
>>
>>jism
>
> In the US *all* paper products are made from trees specifically farmed
> for that use... cutting trees for making paper is no different from
> harvesting wheat for making bread.
>
>
> ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
> Sheldon
> ````````````
> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
>
>

So true. I've been in the paper business for years and paper is made from
hybrid tree's, typically southern pines which are cultivated after eight
years. There are more tree's today in the US than 100 years ago. Actually
200 years.

--
StocksRus®

(PENMART01) wrote in
:

>> Jim "Low IQ"Lane babbles:
>>
>>That paper comes from trees. Wasting
>>paper needlessly is like cutting down trees. Perhaps someone "hates"
>>trees so they want to cut them down no matter the silliness of what it
>>is used for.
>>
>>jism
>
> In the US *all* paper products are made from trees specifically farmed
> for that use... cutting trees for making paper is no different from
> harvesting wheat for making bread.
>
>
> ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
> Sheldon
> ````````````
> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
>
>

So true. I've been in the paper business for years and paper is made from
hybrid tree's, typically southern pines which are cultivated after eight
years. There are more tree's today in the US than 100 years ago. Actually
200 years.

--
StocksRus®

"StocksRus®" wrote:

> So true. I've been in the paper business for years and paper is made from
> hybrid tree's, typically southern pines which are cultivated after eight
> years. There are more tree's today in the US than 100 years ago. Actually
> 200 years.

While that may be so, I know we've got landfill problems. I try to minimie
when I can.
Goomba

"StocksRus®" wrote:

> So true. I've been in the paper business for years and paper is made from
> hybrid tree's, typically southern pines which are cultivated after eight
> years. There are more tree's today in the US than 100 years ago. Actually
> 200 years.

While that may be so, I know we've got landfill problems. I try to minimie
when I can.
Goomba

> Goomba38 writes:
>
>"StocksRus®" wrote:
>
>> So true. I've been in the paper business for years and paper is made from
>> hybrid tree's, typically southern pines which are cultivated after eight
>> years. There are more tree's today in the US than 100 years ago. Actually
>> 200 years.
>
>While that may be so, I know we've got landfill problems. I try to minimize
>when I can.

Paper presents no more problem than the trees that fall in the forest, either
compost naturally the same... it's the plastics and toxic wastes that presents
the problem

Even tropical hadwoods are mostly farmed (plantations), very little rain forest
is destroyed for it's lumber these days... most of the rain forest destruction
is due to local population expansion and the need for more acreage for food
crops.

The real problem is too many people... most need to be composted... 'specially
the welfare/entitlement, give nothing back to society, moochin/freeloading
democrats..

---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
Sheldon
````````````
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

> Goomba38 writes:
>
>"StocksRus®" wrote:
>
>> So true. I've been in the paper business for years and paper is made from
>> hybrid tree's, typically southern pines which are cultivated after eight
>> years. There are more tree's today in the US than 100 years ago. Actually
>> 200 years.
>
>While that may be so, I know we've got landfill problems. I try to minimize
>when I can.

Paper presents no more problem than the trees that fall in the forest, either
compost naturally the same... it's the plastics and toxic wastes that presents
the problem

Even tropical hadwoods are mostly farmed (plantations), very little rain forest
is destroyed for it's lumber these days... most of the rain forest destruction
is due to local population expansion and the need for more acreage for food
crops.

The real problem is too many people... most need to be composted... 'specially
the welfare/entitlement, give nothing back to society, moochin/freeloading
democrats..

---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
Sheldon
````````````
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

(PENMART01) wrote in
:

>> Goomba38 writes:
>>
>>"StocksRus®" wrote:
>>
>>> So true. I've been in the paper business for years and paper is made
>>> from hybrid tree's, typically southern pines which are cultivated
>>> after eight years. There are more tree's today in the US than 100
>>> years ago. Actually 200 years.
>>
>>While that may be so, I know we've got landfill problems. I try to
>>minimize when I can.
>
> Paper presents no more problem than the trees that fall in the forest,
> either compost naturally the same... it's the plastics and toxic
> wastes that presents the problem
>
> Even tropical hadwoods are mostly farmed (plantations), very little
> rain forest is destroyed for it's lumber these days... most of the
> rain forest destruction is due to local population expansion and the
> need for more acreage for food crops.
>
> The real problem is too many people... most need to be composted...
> 'specially the welfare/entitlement, give nothing back to society,
> moochin/freeloading democrats..
>
> ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
> Sheldon
> ````````````
> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
>
>

You know...those damn OTHER people. LMAO

--
StocksRus®

(PENMART01) wrote in
:

>> Goomba38 writes:
>>
>>"StocksRus®" wrote:
>>
>>> So true. I've been in the paper business for years and paper is made
>>> from hybrid tree's, typically southern pines which are cultivated
>>> after eight years. There are more tree's today in the US than 100
>>> years ago. Actually 200 years.
>>
>>While that may be so, I know we've got landfill problems. I try to
>>minimize when I can.
>
> Paper presents no more problem than the trees that fall in the forest,
> either compost naturally the same... it's the plastics and toxic
> wastes that presents the problem
>
> Even tropical hadwoods are mostly farmed (plantations), very little
> rain forest is destroyed for it's lumber these days... most of the
> rain forest destruction is due to local population expansion and the
> need for more acreage for food crops.
>
> The real problem is too many people... most need to be composted...
> 'specially the welfare/entitlement, give nothing back to society,
> moochin/freeloading democrats..
>
> ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
> Sheldon
> ````````````
> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
>
>

You know...those damn OTHER people. LMAO

--
StocksRus®

PENMART01 wrote:

> moochin/freeloading democrats..


Amen brother...

~john

PENMART01 wrote:

> moochin/freeloading democrats..


Amen brother...

~john