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Maverick 01-03-2005 02:05 AM

"Tony P." > wrote in message
. ..
> In article >,
> says...
>> In article >, "Kyle Phillips"
>> > wrote::
>>
>> > Subject: IDENTITY PROTECTION
>> > A corporate attorney sent the following out to the employees in his
>> > company.
>> > I pass it along, for your information.
>> >
>> > The next time you order checks have only your initials (instead of
>> > first name) and last name put on them. If someone takes your
>> > checkbook they will not know if you sign your checks with just your
>> > initials or your first name but your bank will know how you sign your
>> > checks.

>>
>> I was once told that the bank doesn't give a rip about the signature --
>> unless YOU, the customer and account owner, complain about a check that
>> you believe was forged. Until that happens, the bank assumes
>> everything is just fine.
>>

>
> That's true - then they pull out the card you signed when you created
> the account and get real handwriting experts to examine it and the
> allegedly forged document.


I sure hope I have to deal with identity theft. And if I did and they
compared signatures on my checks against the card I have on file, I'll be
doing a lot of years. My handwriting sucks ass big time!

Bret



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Maverick 01-03-2005 02:08 AM

"Dog3" > wrote in message
1...
> Melba's Jammin' > wrote in news:thisisbogus-
> :
>
>> In article > , Dog3
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> > When shopping and handing over my credit card and signing the charge
>>> > slip, I often ask the clerk, "Did you check the signatures, to see if
>>> > they match?" I'm always greeted with the same puzzled look. Scary.
>>> > Try it sometime.
>>> >
>>> > Dora
>>>
>>> Never do I think to do that. I never check my slips or destroy them.

>>
>> Are you going to start?

>
> You betcha I'm gonna check. I may just drive to Nebraska to find this
> person. I have a feeling this person was in St. Louis at one of my doc's
> offices. That is where they got it. From now on, I'm checking everything
> when I purchase. What I want to know is, do you sign the credit card or
> not? I've been told yes and no.
>
> Michael


Michael, Sorry this had to happen to you in the Great Shitty State of
Nebraska, first of all. Secondly, I'd like to point out that I live in the
western end of the state so that excludes me from the list of suspects. Not
to mention the fact that I've only been in MO once and I swear to god I
never left the airport and that was 3 years ago.

Bret
(Nebraska. The Great Shitty State! We have meth labs left and right and
now apparently identity theft too. I need to move.)



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Damsel in dis Dress 01-03-2005 02:14 AM

"Maverick" >, if that's their real name, wrote:

>Michael, Sorry this had to happen to you in the Great Shitty State of
>Nebraska, first of all. Secondly, I'd like to point out that I live in the
>western end of the state so that excludes me from the list of suspects. Not
>to mention the fact that I've only been in MO once and I swear to god I
>never left the airport and that was 3 years ago.


I dunno. Methinks thou doth protest too much. Michael, I think you ought
to track this guy down. ;)

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Maverick 01-03-2005 03:49 AM

"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
...
> "Maverick" >, if that's their real name,
> wrote:
>
>>Michael, Sorry this had to happen to you in the Great Shitty State of
>>Nebraska, first of all. Secondly, I'd like to point out that I live in
>>the
>>western end of the state so that excludes me from the list of suspects.
>>Not
>>to mention the fact that I've only been in MO once and I swear to god I
>>never left the airport and that was 3 years ago.

>
> I dunno. Methinks thou doth protest too much. Michael, I think you
> ought
> to track this guy down. ;)
>
> Carol


Carol, If Michael requests it, I will provide him with all my vitals. Maybe
he can sue me and take my wife and kids away from me. Please?!?!? ;->

Bret



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Damsel in dis Dress 01-03-2005 03:57 AM

"Maverick" >, if that's their real name, wrote:

>"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
.. .
>> "Maverick" >, if that's their real name,
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Michael, Sorry this had to happen to you in the Great Shitty State of
>>>Nebraska, first of all. Secondly, I'd like to point out that I live in
>>>the western end of the state so that excludes me from the list of suspects.
>>>Not to mention the fact that I've only been in MO once and I swear to god I
>>>never left the airport and that was 3 years ago.

>>
>> I dunno. Methinks thou doth protest too much. Michael, I think you
>> ought to track this guy down. ;)
>>
>> Carol

>
>Carol, If Michael requests it, I will provide him with all my vitals. Maybe
>he can sue me and take my wife and kids away from me. Please?!?!? ;->


ROFLMAO!

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Terry Pulliam Burd 01-03-2005 04:54 AM

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:43:29 GMT, "Kyle Phillips"
> wrote:

>A Public Service Announcement


<snip>

Might I add that you are NOT required to give your SSN to anyone but
lending institutions, mortgage brokers, stock brokers and the like.
You are NOT required to give your SSN to your doctor, dentist or
anyone else who has no direct legal need for such information. Doctors
and dentists' offices, for instance, routinely ask for your SSN. They
have no legal right to this information. I have only been turned away
once (a radiology clinic) when I refused to give them my SSN and I
reported them to the state commission that oversees such entities. Got
a mondo letter of apolgoy from the radiology clinic a few months
later. If you have any questions as to whether an entity is entitled
to your SSN information, don't give it to them until you are better
informed as to why they need/are entitled to it.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA


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Deb 01-03-2005 08:20 AM

The fact is that in most cases its just not worth the risk for a store to do
that. I've owned a gift shop for over 15 years and can tell you that a clerk
is not LEGALLY qualified to decide if a signature is real or not even if its
pretty obvious. Most insurers will not allow a store to risk the lawsuit the
store and the clerk would have if they were wrong. It is however perfectly
fine to say "Check Photo ID" but a signature verification requires a
handwriting specialist to be legally refused. We got credit cards all the
time that had that written on the back next to the signature.

On a CC the signature is supposed to be there to be compared BUT again we
are told to run the card because its the card holders responsibility to
report it and if they do, it will show as stolen when we run the card. The
store and the clerk get a reward for a pick up. I've had my credit cards
stolen. One of the first things I was asked was if I had signed the back - I
was told if I hadn't they could not prosecute the thief for "theft of a
forged instrument" and if they recovered my card and found it unsigned I was
responsible for all the fraudulent charges.

As a merchant we were told this past Christmas by VISA not to accept ANY
unsigned cards and if the customers refused to sign the card to pick it up.
I did not want to have a fist fight over a credit card so I put the sheet
they sent me with the instructions and the VISA logo on it on my counter and
told everyone not to even present a card they were not willing to sign it.

Debra




"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
...
> "Bob" >, if that's their real name, wrote:
>
> >Problem is, most clerks DON'T compare the signature on the receipt to the
> >signature on the card.

>
> I just ordered new checks, and they offered the opportunity to put my own
> little message just above my signature. This is what will be on my

checks:
>
> PLEASE COMPARE MY SIGNATURE WITH MY DRIVER'S LICENSE.
>
> We'll have to see if it helps any.




Melba's Jammin' 01-03-2005 03:28 PM

In article >, "Bob"
> wrote:

> Barb wrote:
>
> > I sure do sign the card. I also acknowledge the clerk who compares the
> > signature to the signed receipt. I'm also in the habit of shredding
> > just about anything with my name on it, too.

>
> Problem is, most clerks DON'T compare the signature on the receipt to the
> signature on the card


And depending on my mood, I'll say, "Um, humor me and at least pretend
to look at the signatures."
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Sweet Potato Follies added 2/24/05.
"I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and
say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner,
performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005.

Default User 01-03-2005 05:14 PM


Sandi wrote:
> Default User wrote:


> > Please start following usenet conventions and quote a reasonable
> > portion of the post you are replying to


>
> I=B4ve posted here for several years and today I freaking forgot to

use
> the alternative show options method to reply. So shoot me. Are you so
> perfect that you never make mistakes or errors?



1=2E It's become a big problem with all the people starting to post from
Groople. I try to post the instructions occasionally because many
people using the service don't know HOW to quote.

2=2E You didn't "forget" once, it was at least a half-dozen times. Had it
been a one-time thing, I wouldn't have mentioned it. It was a pattern
with you.

3=2E We all make mistakes. I haven't forgotten to quote when posting from
Google. Make of that what you will.



Brian



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