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Nancree 28-02-2004 01:48 AM

Good Peanut Butter vs. Bad Peanut Butter
 
I go to the local natural food co-op or to whole foods and get freshly
ground peanut butter. No subsitute for it and none of the added sugar.
I like the taste of peanuts in my peanut butter, not over-sugared
peanut food product substitite. :)

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The point of my original entry is that in the "good" peanut butters, Laura
Scudder for instance, there is no sugar at all. Just Peanuts and Salt.

Nancree

Miche 28-02-2004 07:42 AM

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In article ,
(SportKite1) wrote:



I go to the local natural food co-op or to whole foods and get freshly
ground peanut butter. No subsitute for it and none of the added sugar.
I like the taste of peanuts in my peanut butter, not over-sugared
peanut food product substitite. :)


Exactly. We have WONDERFUL nut butters at our store that have no oil on top,
are creamy and spreadable. The best part of buying freshly ground nut butters
at a natural foods store is that you can buy them in the amount you like. Our
peanut butter (just roasted peanuts, no salt) only costs 3.25 a lb and our
pure
almond butter is only 4.30 a lb, but we sell it in containers that range from
1.25 and up.


I love almond butter. I wish I could get it for only $4.30 a pound. I
pay about double that.

Miche

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Miche 28-02-2004 07:46 AM

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In article ,
"Peter Aitken" wrote:

"Nancree" wrote in message
...


Do your children, and yourself, and buy a peanut butter that has the oil
"separated", or floating on top. A nuisance, but so much healthier.


I think you are wrong. The oil rising to the top is the result of no added
sugar. Still, you are right in that the natural peanut butter with the oil
on top is healthier.


She's right. I've seen peanut butter here in NZ with no separated oil
on the top, and no added sugar.

I can't think of a brand of peanut butter here which _has_ added sugar.

Miche

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WardNA 28-02-2004 03:58 PM

Good Peanut Butter vs. Bad Peanut Butter
 
Do your children, and yourself, and buy a peanut butter that has the oil
"separated", or floating on top. A nuisance, but so much healthier.


Another wives' tale. Peanut butter that doesn't separate has a small amount of
hydrogenated oil in it, but not enough to bother about.

The big issue on commercial peanut butter quality is the amount of sugar the
manufacturer adds: the less, the better. However, the focus groups seem to be
of another opinion, since all peanut butters seem to go sweeter over the
decades; and in the last year, the Safeway store brand, which I have preferred
over all the majors, is finally going sweet too.

If I could find a supplier that would grind it from fresh peanuts, no salt,
right in front of my eyes, I would devour of pound of it before the oil had
time to separate.

Neil

Nancree 28-02-2004 10:11 PM

Good Peanut Butter vs. Bad Peanut Butter
 
and in the last year, the Safeway store brand, which I have preferred
over all the majors, is finally going sweet too.


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Yesterday at Von's I noticed that they had several varieties of Von's peanut
butter. One was just peanuts and salt. Others were hydrogenated oils.

Charles Gifford 29-02-2004 12:10 PM

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"Curly Sue" wrote in message
...

I suspect you're right though. I'm used to commercial, sweetened
peanut butters and I didn't care for the taste of the natural ones.
My bad. :


Not at all Sue! ;-) I too prefer the hydrogenated peanut butter to the
nautral kind. I have tried most of the natural peanut butters but don't like
them much. Also, I prefer to keep my peanut butter unrefrigerated and
dislike mucking about with oil separation. I used to like the ones with
added sugar, but now prefer unsugared. I purchase Skippy which has no sugar,
just roasted peanuts, hydrogenated oil (rapeseed, cotton seed and
safflower), and salt. It is not as good for one as natural but I prefer the
flavor a great deal and the ease of use makes it worthwhile for as long as I
can eat it.

Fortunately I don't eat so much that it makes a difference.


Sigh. I buy it in 4 lb. tubs. Very inexpensive at my Smart and Final
warehouse.

Charlie

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!




hahabogus 29-02-2004 12:46 PM

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"Charles Gifford" wrote in
link.net:


"Curly Sue" wrote in message
...

I suspect you're right though. I'm used to commercial, sweetened
peanut butters and I didn't care for the taste of the natural ones.
My bad. :


Not at all Sue! ;-) I too prefer the hydrogenated peanut butter to the
nautral kind. I have tried most of the natural peanut butters but
don't like them much. Also, I prefer to keep my peanut butter
unrefrigerated and dislike mucking about with oil separation. I used
to like the ones with added sugar, but now prefer unsugared. I
purchase Skippy which has no sugar, just roasted peanuts, hydrogenated
oil (rapeseed, cotton seed and safflower), and salt. It is not as good
for one as natural but I prefer the flavor a great deal and the ease
of use makes it worthwhile for as long as I can eat it.

Fortunately I don't eat so much that it makes a difference.


Sigh. I buy it in 4 lb. tubs. Very inexpensive at my Smart and Final
warehouse.

Charlie

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!





I find I prefer room temp un-sugarred hydrogenated peanut butter as well. I
don't eat a lot of peanut butter, but do like crunchy peanut butter on rye
toast for breakfast 3 or so days a week. I find the natural stuff
oily/greasy in taste even after stirring. I can't seem to get the total oil
absorbtion that the hydrogenated peanut butter has. And upon awakening,
before my first cup of coffee, operating a toaster can be some what of a
mental challenge...never mind stirring up a jar of peanut butter.


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WardNA 29-02-2004 01:50 PM

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never mind stirring up a jar of peanut butter

.. . . which also ruins the texture.

WardNA 29-02-2004 01:52 PM

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Skippy which has no sugar

That wasn't true of Skippy when I sampled it two years ago. However, formulas
change (perhaps even geographically), and I'll examine the label again.

Scott 29-02-2004 03:21 PM

Good Peanut Butter vs. Bad Peanut Butter
 
In article ,
(WardNA) wrote:

That wasn't true of Skippy when I sampled it two years ago. However, formulas
change (perhaps even geographically), and I'll examine the label again.


Skippy contains some sugar

http://www.peanutbutter.com/faq.asp#ingredients

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Leila A. 01-03-2004 06:59 AM

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(Alex Rast) wrote in message ...
at Thu, 26 Feb 2004 23:26:20 GMT in
,
(Nancree)
wrote :

Most peanut butters that are in supermarkets don't have oil rising to
the top--they are of one consistency. This means that they have
"Hydrogenated fat", which is very bad for your health--like butter, or
beef fat.

Some research suggests that it's in fact *worse* than either butter or beef
fat. However, I believe that whatever the merits of the fat involved, the
bigger factor is proportion and moderation. No doubt if you lived in
reasonably temperate latitudes and ate virtually nothing but hard,
saturated fat (of any kind), you'd be setting yourself up for heart
disease. But if your fat intake were in moderation (say, 20-30% of
calories) and you distributed the types of fats you ate relatively evenly
between polyunsaturated (e.g. sunflower oil), monounsaturated (e.g. olive
oil) and saturated (e.g. lard) fats, I don't think there's any real harm in
the saturated fat intake.


I thought so, too, when I first heard about hydrogenated fat being an
issue some years ago. Then two strands of research came to my
attention. First of all, my older son has peculiar neurological and
developmental issues that have been treated successfully in England by
restricting trans fats and supplementing with the good fats (Omega 3s
and 6s I believe, in correct proportions). Kids with ADD, ADHD,
Dyslexia, dyspraxia, and apraxia of speech have all had great results
with altering their diets in this fashion. Certainly our kid has been
making much better progress than the specialists predicted in the
three years since we put him on "fish oil." (Not exactly what the
supplement is, but mostly) I didn't immediately restrict the
hydrogenated fats, because the literature I read said that the
supplements would take care of much of the harm caused by the trans
fats.

Then the recent research on trans fats came out. What I remember is
the recommendation saying "there's no safe amount of trans fat" in the
diet. I also remember some article saying 4-6 grams of it is really
too much per day, especially for a child. We eat sandwich bread with
no trans fats, and limit snacky items that have been pre-processed.
I'd rather feed my kids bread, butter and jam for a snack than some of
the puddings, cookies and other horrors developed for kids.

The other week hubby bought peanut butter at the Stupidmarket, rather
than at the natural foods place I go to that grinds it fresh. After
the kids had been eating it for a day or two I thought to check the
label. The rule of thumb is, subtract Saturated Fats from Total Fats
on the label to get the trans fats (although wouldn't the
polyunsaturated fats that are fine also be in there?). The peanut
butter said something like 16 g per serving fat, 3 g. saturated fat,
so that left 13 grams PER SERVING of unsaturated fats, many of which
are hydrogenated.

I threw the jar out.

I'm not hyper picky about what the kids eat, in general, but a whole
jar of PB with hydrogenated fat (listed on the label) just seemed like
not worth the damage.

If your kid has any learning issues, speech disorder, or attention
deficit, do yourself a favor and read "The LCP Solution" by a
nutritionist in England. The Brits are doing more research than we are
on this issue, although parents and doctors are calling for trials in
this country. I'm not saying this is your magic bullet, I just suggest
you look into it.

Leila
(ducking for cover)

Charles Gifford 01-03-2004 12:26 PM

Good Peanut Butter vs. Bad Peanut Butter
 

"Scott" wrote in message
...
In article ,
(WardNA) wrote:

That wasn't true of Skippy when I sampled it two years ago. However,

formulas
change (perhaps even geographically), and I'll examine the label again.


Skippy contains some sugar

http://www.peanutbutter.com/faq.asp#ingredients


It is not listed on the label on my tub of Skippy.

Charlie



Doug Miller 01-03-2004 12:39 PM

Good Peanut Butter vs. Bad Peanut Butter
 
In article k.net, "Charles Gifford" wrote:

"Scott" wrote in message
...
In article ,
(WardNA) wrote:

That wasn't true of Skippy when I sampled it two years ago. However,

formulas
change (perhaps even geographically), and I'll examine the label again.


Skippy contains some sugar

http://www.peanutbutter.com/faq.asp#ingredients


It is not listed on the label on my tub of Skippy.

It probably *is* listed, but in disguise. Look for things like corn syrup or
molasses.

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Rona Yuthasastrakosol 02-03-2004 03:05 AM

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"Leila A." wrote in message
om...

snip
If your kid has any learning issues, speech disorder, or attention
deficit, do yourself a favor and read "The LCP Solution" by a
nutritionist in England. The Brits are doing more research than we are
on this issue, although parents and doctors are calling for trials in
this country. I'm not saying this is your magic bullet, I just suggest
you look into it.

Leila
(ducking for cover)


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already? You should show yourself more often so we can bask in your royal
ways! :-)

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Charles Gifford 02-03-2004 11:10 AM

Good Peanut Butter vs. Bad Peanut Butter
 

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
om...
In article k.net,

"Charles Gifford" wrote:

"Scott" wrote in message
...
In article ,
(WardNA) wrote:

That wasn't true of Skippy when I sampled it two years ago. However,

formulas
change (perhaps even geographically), and I'll examine the label

again.

Skippy contains some sugar

http://www.peanutbutter.com/faq.asp#ingredients


It is not listed on the label on my tub of Skippy.

It probably *is* listed, but in disguise. Look for things like corn syrup

or
molasses.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)


Nope. No disguise. It is listed as "sugar". Damned thing snuck up on me. It
is listed second just after roasted peanuts. That'll teach me to wear my
glasses when reading labels!

Charlie, embarrassed




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