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Black Friday purchase
Finally bought a multicooker. 12-qt. stockpot with pasta and steamer
inserts and glass lid w/vent. $40.00 PITA to clean, imho. Oh well, always wanted one for some reason. ;) Andy |
Andy wrote:
> Finally bought a multicooker. 12-qt. stockpot with pasta and steamer > inserts and glass lid w/vent. > > $40.00 > > PITA to clean, imho. Oh well, always wanted one for some reason. ;) I've never understood that "Black Friday" thing. When I was actively selling my food products in farmers' markets, it was always about 10 times better than my next best day. Black Friday should be reserved for disastrous occasions, not the ones that pay the bills. <G> I always think of it as "Green Friday." Pastorio |
Andy wrote:
> Finally bought a multicooker. 12-qt. stockpot with pasta and steamer > inserts and glass lid w/vent. > > $40.00 > > PITA to clean, imho. Oh well, always wanted one for some reason. ;) I've never understood that "Black Friday" thing. When I was actively selling my food products in farmers' markets, it was always about 10 times better than my next best day. Black Friday should be reserved for disastrous occasions, not the ones that pay the bills. <G> I always think of it as "Green Friday." Pastorio |
"Bob (this one)" > wrote in
: > Andy wrote: > >> Finally bought a multicooker. 12-qt. stockpot with pasta and steamer >> inserts and glass lid w/vent. >> >> $40.00 >> >> PITA to clean, imho. Oh well, always wanted one for some reason. ;) > > I've never understood that "Black Friday" thing. When I was actively > selling my food products in farmers' markets, it was always about 10 > times better than my next best day. Black Friday should be reserved > for disastrous occasions, not the ones that pay the bills. <G> > > I always think of it as "Green Friday." > > Pastorio Pastorio, I imagine it's a financial reference, "being in the black" as opposed to "being in the red". Andy |
"Bob (this one)" > wrote in
: > Andy wrote: > >> Finally bought a multicooker. 12-qt. stockpot with pasta and steamer >> inserts and glass lid w/vent. >> >> $40.00 >> >> PITA to clean, imho. Oh well, always wanted one for some reason. ;) > > I've never understood that "Black Friday" thing. When I was actively > selling my food products in farmers' markets, it was always about 10 > times better than my next best day. Black Friday should be reserved > for disastrous occasions, not the ones that pay the bills. <G> > > I always think of it as "Green Friday." > > Pastorio Pastorio, I imagine it's a financial reference, "being in the black" as opposed to "being in the red". Andy |
Andy wrote:
> "Bob (this one)" > wrote in > : > >> Andy wrote: >> >>> Finally bought a multicooker. 12-qt. stockpot with pasta and steamer >>> inserts and glass lid w/vent. >>> >>> $40.00 >>> >>> PITA to clean, imho. Oh well, always wanted one for some reason. ;) >> >> I've never understood that "Black Friday" thing. When I was actively >> selling my food products in farmers' markets, it was always about 10 >> times better than my next best day. Black Friday should be reserved >> for disastrous occasions, not the ones that pay the bills. <G> >> >> I always think of it as "Green Friday." >> >> Pastorio > > > Pastorio, > > I imagine it's a financial reference, "being in the black" as opposed > to "being in the red". > > Andy Exactly. The day after Thanksgiving in the USA is known for being the busiest shopping day of the year, so for retailers it often puts them "in the black" financially speaking. Jill |
Andy wrote:
> "Bob (this one)" > wrote in > : > >> Andy wrote: >> >>> Finally bought a multicooker. 12-qt. stockpot with pasta and steamer >>> inserts and glass lid w/vent. >>> >>> $40.00 >>> >>> PITA to clean, imho. Oh well, always wanted one for some reason. ;) >> >> I've never understood that "Black Friday" thing. When I was actively >> selling my food products in farmers' markets, it was always about 10 >> times better than my next best day. Black Friday should be reserved >> for disastrous occasions, not the ones that pay the bills. <G> >> >> I always think of it as "Green Friday." >> >> Pastorio > > > Pastorio, > > I imagine it's a financial reference, "being in the black" as opposed > to "being in the red". > > Andy Exactly. The day after Thanksgiving in the USA is known for being the busiest shopping day of the year, so for retailers it often puts them "in the black" financially speaking. Jill |
Bob (this one) wrote:
> I've never understood that "Black Friday" thing. When I was actively > selling my food products in farmers' markets, it was always about 10 > times better than my next best day. Black Friday should be reserved for > disastrous occasions, not the ones that pay the bills. <G> In this case, a "black" day has both one meaning and its opposite. So Black Monday and Black Tuesday were economic disaster days in 1929 at the beginning of the Depression, but the day after Thanksgiving is a black day because sales are normally so good the retailers are back in the black on their balance sheets. I'm interested in how sales the day after Thanksgiving work in the food business. In the wine and cheese shop where I work, the day before Thanksgiving was busy. We were swamped. People came in to buy large quantities of good cheese and nice bottles of wine to serve on Thanksgiving day. If they weren't serving Thanksgiving dinner, they still bought both to take with them wherever they were going. The day after Thanksgiving was dead. My boss was thinking that it would be a good day because the day after Thanksgiving is famous for people going out to buy Xmas gifts, and wine makes a nice gift, but instead, we were so slow that my co-worker and I cleaned and organized 3 refrigerators. (That's something I've been wanting to do for ages and was delighted to have the chance. I love putting everything away where *I* think it belongs.) I guess the day after Thanksgiving is bound to be awful for people in the restaurant-food business since people have leftovers in the house but good for people in the retail-food business since people buy gifts. Has that been the experience of the people on this list? If that theory is correct, yesterday we learned that the wine and cheese shop where I work is looked at more as a restaurant-food business than a retail-food business. --Lia |
Bob (this one) wrote:
> I've never understood that "Black Friday" thing. When I was actively > selling my food products in farmers' markets, it was always about 10 > times better than my next best day. Black Friday should be reserved for > disastrous occasions, not the ones that pay the bills. <G> In this case, a "black" day has both one meaning and its opposite. So Black Monday and Black Tuesday were economic disaster days in 1929 at the beginning of the Depression, but the day after Thanksgiving is a black day because sales are normally so good the retailers are back in the black on their balance sheets. I'm interested in how sales the day after Thanksgiving work in the food business. In the wine and cheese shop where I work, the day before Thanksgiving was busy. We were swamped. People came in to buy large quantities of good cheese and nice bottles of wine to serve on Thanksgiving day. If they weren't serving Thanksgiving dinner, they still bought both to take with them wherever they were going. The day after Thanksgiving was dead. My boss was thinking that it would be a good day because the day after Thanksgiving is famous for people going out to buy Xmas gifts, and wine makes a nice gift, but instead, we were so slow that my co-worker and I cleaned and organized 3 refrigerators. (That's something I've been wanting to do for ages and was delighted to have the chance. I love putting everything away where *I* think it belongs.) I guess the day after Thanksgiving is bound to be awful for people in the restaurant-food business since people have leftovers in the house but good for people in the retail-food business since people buy gifts. Has that been the experience of the people on this list? If that theory is correct, yesterday we learned that the wine and cheese shop where I work is looked at more as a restaurant-food business than a retail-food business. --Lia |
jmcquown wrote:
> Andy wrote: > >>"Bob (this one)" > wrote in : >> >>>Andy wrote: >>> >>>>Finally bought a multicooker. 12-qt. stockpot with pasta and steamer >>>>inserts and glass lid w/vent. >>>> >>>>$40.00 >>>> >>>>PITA to clean, imho. Oh well, always wanted one for some reason. ;) >>> >>>I've never understood that "Black Friday" thing. When I was actively >>>selling my food products in farmers' markets, it was always about 10 >>>times better than my next best day. Black Friday should be reserved >>>for disastrous occasions, not the ones that pay the bills. <G> >>> >>>I always think of it as "Green Friday." >>> >>>Pastorio >> >>Pastorio, >> >>I imagine it's a financial reference, "being in the black" as opposed >>to "being in the red". >> >>Andy > > Exactly. The day after Thanksgiving in the USA is known for being the > busiest shopping day of the year, so for retailers it often puts them "in > the black" financially speaking. I dunno about that. The merchants I'm talking about didn't use those uptown financial images the rest of the time. These aren't laptop/PDA types; they're in our rural Mennonite markets. They were more likely making reference to having to work harder on that day than any other. I'm going to Costco today to pick up my new glasses and do a lot of impulse purchasing. Stop at the Green Valley Book Fair (google it, it'll blow you away) to ostensibly buy X-mas gifts but might accidentally buy myself some books. I've actually already bought gifts for several people. I'm stunned. So early... Pastorio |
jmcquown wrote:
> Andy wrote: > >>"Bob (this one)" > wrote in : >> >>>Andy wrote: >>> >>>>Finally bought a multicooker. 12-qt. stockpot with pasta and steamer >>>>inserts and glass lid w/vent. >>>> >>>>$40.00 >>>> >>>>PITA to clean, imho. Oh well, always wanted one for some reason. ;) >>> >>>I've never understood that "Black Friday" thing. When I was actively >>>selling my food products in farmers' markets, it was always about 10 >>>times better than my next best day. Black Friday should be reserved >>>for disastrous occasions, not the ones that pay the bills. <G> >>> >>>I always think of it as "Green Friday." >>> >>>Pastorio >> >>Pastorio, >> >>I imagine it's a financial reference, "being in the black" as opposed >>to "being in the red". >> >>Andy > > Exactly. The day after Thanksgiving in the USA is known for being the > busiest shopping day of the year, so for retailers it often puts them "in > the black" financially speaking. I dunno about that. The merchants I'm talking about didn't use those uptown financial images the rest of the time. These aren't laptop/PDA types; they're in our rural Mennonite markets. They were more likely making reference to having to work harder on that day than any other. I'm going to Costco today to pick up my new glasses and do a lot of impulse purchasing. Stop at the Green Valley Book Fair (google it, it'll blow you away) to ostensibly buy X-mas gifts but might accidentally buy myself some books. I've actually already bought gifts for several people. I'm stunned. So early... Pastorio |
Julia Altshuler wrote:
> Bob (this one) wrote: > >> I've never understood that "Black Friday" thing. When I was actively >> selling my food products in farmers' markets, it was always about 10 >> times better than my next best day. Black Friday should be reserved >> for disastrous occasions, not the ones that pay the bills. <G> > > > In this case, a "black" day has both one meaning and its opposite. So > Black Monday and Black Tuesday were economic disaster days in 1929 at > the beginning of the Depression, but the day after Thanksgiving is a > black day because sales are normally so good the retailers are back in > the black on their balance sheets. > > I guess the day after Thanksgiving is bound to be awful for people in > the restaurant-food business since people have leftovers in the house > but good for people in the retail-food business since people buy > gifts. > --Lia I don't know about your business; you are probably correct about the leftovers! I recall one Thanksgiving DAY when it was mandatory everyone show up for work at the restaurant. (I also recall one bartender who protested loudly he had plans and would not be there, regardless of the schedule. He was honestly surprised when he was fired the next day for failing to report.) Management expected huge crowds of people who didn't want to cook. Planned a special menu with turkey, dressing, gravy, etc. I was the hostess that day and I and the servers just stood around, bored to tears. You can only clean tables so many times. The only folks who had any business were the bartenders (ha! The guy should have come to work!) and the cocktail waitresses. I think a couple of people came in to buy caramel pies on their way to someones dinner. And I seem to recall being vaguely thrilled when I seated a party of six. That must have been the longest 8 hours of my life. On the other hand, when I worked retail for a large retailer selling clothing I ran my a** off the day after Thanksgiving. A person would have to be nuts to go to a Mall on that day. BTW, Lia, I did buy a bottle of wine yesterday as a gift. You are right; the shop was not busy. Go figure. Jill |
Julia Altshuler wrote:
> Bob (this one) wrote: > >> I've never understood that "Black Friday" thing. When I was actively >> selling my food products in farmers' markets, it was always about 10 >> times better than my next best day. Black Friday should be reserved >> for disastrous occasions, not the ones that pay the bills. <G> > > > In this case, a "black" day has both one meaning and its opposite. So > Black Monday and Black Tuesday were economic disaster days in 1929 at > the beginning of the Depression, but the day after Thanksgiving is a > black day because sales are normally so good the retailers are back in > the black on their balance sheets. > > I guess the day after Thanksgiving is bound to be awful for people in > the restaurant-food business since people have leftovers in the house > but good for people in the retail-food business since people buy > gifts. > --Lia I don't know about your business; you are probably correct about the leftovers! I recall one Thanksgiving DAY when it was mandatory everyone show up for work at the restaurant. (I also recall one bartender who protested loudly he had plans and would not be there, regardless of the schedule. He was honestly surprised when he was fired the next day for failing to report.) Management expected huge crowds of people who didn't want to cook. Planned a special menu with turkey, dressing, gravy, etc. I was the hostess that day and I and the servers just stood around, bored to tears. You can only clean tables so many times. The only folks who had any business were the bartenders (ha! The guy should have come to work!) and the cocktail waitresses. I think a couple of people came in to buy caramel pies on their way to someones dinner. And I seem to recall being vaguely thrilled when I seated a party of six. That must have been the longest 8 hours of my life. On the other hand, when I worked retail for a large retailer selling clothing I ran my a** off the day after Thanksgiving. A person would have to be nuts to go to a Mall on that day. BTW, Lia, I did buy a bottle of wine yesterday as a gift. You are right; the shop was not busy. Go figure. Jill |
Julia Altshuler wrote:
> Bob (this one) wrote: > >> I've never understood that "Black Friday" thing. When I was actively >> selling my food products in farmers' markets, it was always about 10 >> times better than my next best day. Black Friday should be reserved >> for disastrous occasions, not the ones that pay the bills. <G> > > In this case, a "black" day has both one meaning and its opposite. So > Black Monday and Black Tuesday were economic disaster days in 1929 at > the beginning of the Depression, but the day after Thanksgiving is a > black day because sales are normally so good the retailers are back in > the black on their balance sheets. > > > I'm interested in how sales the day after Thanksgiving work in the food > business. Short version: you can go bowling in most restaurants and not hit anybody. The only ones that do any appreciable business are the ones in the mall food courts and fast food operations near malls and other strong shopping areas. Pastorio > In the wine and cheese shop where I work, the day before > Thanksgiving was busy. We were swamped. People came in to buy large > quantities of good cheese and nice bottles of wine to serve on > Thanksgiving day. If they weren't serving Thanksgiving dinner, they > still bought both to take with them wherever they were going. The day > after Thanksgiving was dead. My boss was thinking that it would be a > good day because the day after Thanksgiving is famous for people going > out to buy Xmas gifts, and wine makes a nice gift, but instead, we were > so slow that my co-worker and I cleaned and organized 3 refrigerators. > (That's something I've been wanting to do for ages and was delighted to > have the chance. I love putting everything away where *I* think it > belongs.) > > > I guess the day after Thanksgiving is bound to be awful for people in > the restaurant-food business since people have leftovers in the house > but good for people in the retail-food business since people buy gifts. > Has that been the experience of the people on this list? If that > theory is correct, yesterday we learned that the wine and cheese shop > where I work is looked at more as a restaurant-food business than a > retail-food business. > > > --Lia > |
Julia Altshuler wrote:
> Bob (this one) wrote: > >> I've never understood that "Black Friday" thing. When I was actively >> selling my food products in farmers' markets, it was always about 10 >> times better than my next best day. Black Friday should be reserved >> for disastrous occasions, not the ones that pay the bills. <G> > > In this case, a "black" day has both one meaning and its opposite. So > Black Monday and Black Tuesday were economic disaster days in 1929 at > the beginning of the Depression, but the day after Thanksgiving is a > black day because sales are normally so good the retailers are back in > the black on their balance sheets. > > > I'm interested in how sales the day after Thanksgiving work in the food > business. Short version: you can go bowling in most restaurants and not hit anybody. The only ones that do any appreciable business are the ones in the mall food courts and fast food operations near malls and other strong shopping areas. Pastorio > In the wine and cheese shop where I work, the day before > Thanksgiving was busy. We were swamped. People came in to buy large > quantities of good cheese and nice bottles of wine to serve on > Thanksgiving day. If they weren't serving Thanksgiving dinner, they > still bought both to take with them wherever they were going. The day > after Thanksgiving was dead. My boss was thinking that it would be a > good day because the day after Thanksgiving is famous for people going > out to buy Xmas gifts, and wine makes a nice gift, but instead, we were > so slow that my co-worker and I cleaned and organized 3 refrigerators. > (That's something I've been wanting to do for ages and was delighted to > have the chance. I love putting everything away where *I* think it > belongs.) > > > I guess the day after Thanksgiving is bound to be awful for people in > the restaurant-food business since people have leftovers in the house > but good for people in the retail-food business since people buy gifts. > Has that been the experience of the people on this list? If that > theory is correct, yesterday we learned that the wine and cheese shop > where I work is looked at more as a restaurant-food business than a > retail-food business. > > > --Lia > |
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Tony P. wrote:
> In article >, says... > >>Andy wrote: >> >> >>>Finally bought a multicooker. 12-qt. stockpot with pasta and steamer >>>inserts and glass lid w/vent. >>> >>>$40.00 >>> >>>PITA to clean, imho. Oh well, always wanted one for some reason. ;) >> >>I've never understood that "Black Friday" thing. When I was actively >>selling my food products in farmers' markets, it was always about 10 >>times better than my next best day. Black Friday should be reserved >>for disastrous occasions, not the ones that pay the bills. <G> >> >>I always think of it as "Green Friday." > > > It is an accounting term. Normal entries on balance sheets and other > financial statements are written in black or blue while negative entries > or those showing a loss are written in red. I understand the accounting forms. I've run my own businesses since the 70's. > Retail is in the red for most of the year, their best quarter for > revenue and profit being the fourth quarter where all the holidays are > clustered. I can't imagine being in a business that operates at a loss for any significant part of the year. My restaurants were profitable from day 1 and stayed that way. Startup costs amortized across three years. Everything (costed for materials, equipment and labor) on all menus was profitable or it wasn't there. I guess retail wouldn't be the business for me. I'd be nuts having to count on a month to rescue an otherwise unprofitable year. Pastorio |
Tony P. wrote:
> In article >, says... > >>Andy wrote: >> >> >>>Finally bought a multicooker. 12-qt. stockpot with pasta and steamer >>>inserts and glass lid w/vent. >>> >>>$40.00 >>> >>>PITA to clean, imho. Oh well, always wanted one for some reason. ;) >> >>I've never understood that "Black Friday" thing. When I was actively >>selling my food products in farmers' markets, it was always about 10 >>times better than my next best day. Black Friday should be reserved >>for disastrous occasions, not the ones that pay the bills. <G> >> >>I always think of it as "Green Friday." > > > It is an accounting term. Normal entries on balance sheets and other > financial statements are written in black or blue while negative entries > or those showing a loss are written in red. I understand the accounting forms. I've run my own businesses since the 70's. > Retail is in the red for most of the year, their best quarter for > revenue and profit being the fourth quarter where all the holidays are > clustered. I can't imagine being in a business that operates at a loss for any significant part of the year. My restaurants were profitable from day 1 and stayed that way. Startup costs amortized across three years. Everything (costed for materials, equipment and labor) on all menus was profitable or it wasn't there. I guess retail wouldn't be the business for me. I'd be nuts having to count on a month to rescue an otherwise unprofitable year. Pastorio |
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Julia Altshuler > wrote: snip> > > I'm interested in how sales the day after Thanksgiving work in the food > business. In the wine and cheese shop where I work, the day before > Thanksgiving was busy. We were swamped. People came in to buy large > quantities of good cheese and nice bottles of wine to serve on > Thanksgiving day. If they weren't serving Thanksgiving dinner, they > still bought both to take with them wherever they were going. The day > after Thanksgiving was dead. My boss was thinking that it would be a > good day because the day after Thanksgiving is famous for people going > out to buy Xmas gifts, and wine makes a nice gift, but instead, we were > so slow that my co-worker and I cleaned and organized 3 refrigerators. > (That's something I've been wanting to do for ages and was delighted to > have the chance. I love putting everything away where *I* think it > belongs.) > more snip We went on our weekly shopping trip to Central Market yesterday. What a nice change from the usual weekend chaos there. No long lines at the meat counter or the checkout. Cindy -- C.J. Fuller Delete the obvious to email me |
Sheryl Rosen wrote:
> I went shopping yesterday....I went to 2 stores. Left my house at 6:30, AM??? > was > at the mall 10 minutes later. Spent a little more than 2 hours shopping, > then was off to Kohl's for the rest of my list. The lines at the mall > department store were not bad at all, maybe 3-4 deep. And the shopping was > easy, it wasn't all that crowded. I didn't venture out into the mall, I > just went into the one store I needed and left via the same door I came in. > > Kohl's was another story entirely! Crowded....merchandise everywhere, > lines...you name it. Of course, it was only 9:30 and the store had been open > for 4 hours!!!!! Still, I was able to complete my list, except for a small > item for my BIL and something for my friend's parents. I also need a few > more gift boxes and a couple skeins of yarn to complete some crocheted gifts > I'm making, so I can probably finish up my list at Walmart. I give you credit, sounds like you're just about done. Congratulations. nancy |
Nancy Young wrote:
> Sheryl Rosen wrote: > > >>I went shopping yesterday....I went to 2 stores. Left my house at 6:30, > > > AM??? > I don't doubt it. The news showed lines outside some stores that had to be a quarter of a mile long... at FOUR A-flippin-M! Needless to say, I wasn't in one! -- Steve Who was the first person to say, "See that chicken there... I'm gonna eat the next thing that comes outta it's ass?" |
Steve Calvin wrote:
> > Nancy Young wrote: > > Sheryl Rosen wrote: > >>I went shopping yesterday....I went to 2 stores. Left my house at 6:30, > > AM??? > > > I don't doubt it. The news showed lines outside some stores that had > to be a quarter of a mile long... at FOUR A-flippin-M! Needless to > say, I wasn't in one! There is *nothing* I can think of that could induce me to go stand in line like that. Don't anyone get me wrong, I know they have good sales and it's often a family tradition, but I am far too lazy to go to those lengths. I'm just not a shopper. I go at dinnertime closer to Christmas and it's not bad and everything is marked down. 45 minutes, I'm done. Then, I don't buy for all but one person. nancy |
In article >, "Bob (this one)"
> wrote: > Andy wrote: > > > Finally bought a multicooker. 12-qt. stockpot with pasta and steamer > > inserts and glass lid w/vent. > > > > $40.00 > > > > PITA to clean, imho. Oh well, always wanted one for some reason. ;) > > I've never understood that "Black Friday" thing. When I was actively > selling my food products in farmers' markets, it was always about 10 > times better than my next best day. Black Friday should be reserved > for disastrous occasions, not the ones that pay the bills. <G> > > I always think of it as "Green Friday." > > Pastorio > I suspect it might mean the day that a number of businesses go into the black, rather than the red, but what do I know? -- Nancy Howells (don't forget to switch it, and replace the ;) to send mail). |
Nancy Young wrote:
> > There is *nothing* I can think of that could induce me to go stand in > line like that. Don't anyone get me wrong, I know they have good > sales and it's often a family tradition, but I am far too lazy to > go to those lengths. I'm just not a shopper. I go at dinnertime > closer to Christmas and it's not bad and everything is marked down. > 45 minutes, I'm done. Then, I don't buy for all but one person. > Damn it. It's the over commercialization of another traditional holiday. I hate it. It's bad enough that Christmas has been turned into an exercise in commercial and material indulgence. My whole family used to get together every year for Christmas Day at my parent's house. and kept it up for a few years after my father died. Two of my brother's live within 12 miles of my mother's house and one lives about 200 miles away. He was the only who had a long drive, so he and his family would stay for a day or two with my parents. That is no longer possible. She works in retail. She works her butt off for the 2-3 weeks leading up to Christmas, and then has to stay late on Christmas Eve to get ready for the Boxing Day sales, which also entail getting there early in the morning of the 26th. I can understand why she doesn't have the time or energy to drive 3 hours each way. It's amazing that so many people will run out on a holiday to scoop up all that merchandise that is left over from Christmas. If the stores stayed closed for the extra day to celebrate a special family holiday they could still sell all that stuff the next day. The only reason they have to open that day is because others are. It is unfortunate. |
Nancy Young wrote:
> > There is *nothing* I can think of that could induce me to go stand in > line like that. Don't anyone get me wrong, I know they have good > sales and it's often a family tradition, but I am far too lazy to > go to those lengths. I'm just not a shopper. I go at dinnertime > closer to Christmas and it's not bad and everything is marked down. > 45 minutes, I'm done. Then, I don't buy for all but one person. > Damn it. It's the over commercialization of another traditional holiday. I hate it. It's bad enough that Christmas has been turned into an exercise in commercial and material indulgence. My whole family used to get together every year for Christmas Day at my parent's house. and kept it up for a few years after my father died. Two of my brother's live within 12 miles of my mother's house and one lives about 200 miles away. He was the only who had a long drive, so he and his family would stay for a day or two with my parents. That is no longer possible. She works in retail. She works her butt off for the 2-3 weeks leading up to Christmas, and then has to stay late on Christmas Eve to get ready for the Boxing Day sales, which also entail getting there early in the morning of the 26th. I can understand why she doesn't have the time or energy to drive 3 hours each way. It's amazing that so many people will run out on a holiday to scoop up all that merchandise that is left over from Christmas. If the stores stayed closed for the extra day to celebrate a special family holiday they could still sell all that stuff the next day. The only reason they have to open that day is because others are. It is unfortunate. |
"jmcquown" > wrote in message . .. > Andy wrote: >> "Bob (this one)" > wrote in >> : >> >>> Andy wrote: >>> >>>> Finally bought a multicooker. 12-qt. stockpot with pasta and steamer >>>> inserts and glass lid w/vent. >>>> >>>> $40.00 >>>> >>>> PITA to clean, imho. Oh well, always wanted one for some reason. ;) >>> >>> I've never understood that "Black Friday" thing. When I was actively >>> selling my food products in farmers' markets, it was always about 10 >>> times better than my next best day. Black Friday should be reserved >>> for disastrous occasions, not the ones that pay the bills. <G> >>> >>> I always think of it as "Green Friday." >>> >>> Pastorio >> >> >> Pastorio, >> >> I imagine it's a financial reference, "being in the black" as opposed >> to "being in the red". >> >> Andy > > Exactly. The day after Thanksgiving in the USA is known for being the > busiest shopping day of the year, so for retailers it often puts them "in > the black" financially speaking. > > Jill > It isn't really the busiest shopping day of the year, though. Usually December 23rd is, or the Saturday right before Chirstmas Day. -T |
"jmcquown" > wrote in message . .. > Andy wrote: >> "Bob (this one)" > wrote in >> : >> >>> Andy wrote: >>> >>>> Finally bought a multicooker. 12-qt. stockpot with pasta and steamer >>>> inserts and glass lid w/vent. >>>> >>>> $40.00 >>>> >>>> PITA to clean, imho. Oh well, always wanted one for some reason. ;) >>> >>> I've never understood that "Black Friday" thing. When I was actively >>> selling my food products in farmers' markets, it was always about 10 >>> times better than my next best day. Black Friday should be reserved >>> for disastrous occasions, not the ones that pay the bills. <G> >>> >>> I always think of it as "Green Friday." >>> >>> Pastorio >> >> >> Pastorio, >> >> I imagine it's a financial reference, "being in the black" as opposed >> to "being in the red". >> >> Andy > > Exactly. The day after Thanksgiving in the USA is known for being the > busiest shopping day of the year, so for retailers it often puts them "in > the black" financially speaking. > > Jill > It isn't really the busiest shopping day of the year, though. Usually December 23rd is, or the Saturday right before Chirstmas Day. -T |
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 04:41:31 -0500, "Bob (this one)"
> wrote: > I've never understood that "Black Friday" thing. When I was actively > selling my food products in farmers' markets, it was always about 10 > times better than my next best day. Black Friday should be reserved > for disastrous occasions, not the ones that pay the bills. <G> I've never heard the term before this year... I would have thought it referenced some mafia style massacre, union clash or stock market crash. Do they call it "black" because stores open before the sun comes up? The Christmas shopping season used to begin the day after Thanksgiving, but now it starts in September - so I don't understand the continuing mindset. Stores had the very same things on sale the day/week before. sf Practice safe eating - always use condiments |
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 04:41:31 -0500, "Bob (this one)"
> wrote: > I've never understood that "Black Friday" thing. When I was actively > selling my food products in farmers' markets, it was always about 10 > times better than my next best day. Black Friday should be reserved > for disastrous occasions, not the ones that pay the bills. <G> I've never heard the term before this year... I would have thought it referenced some mafia style massacre, union clash or stock market crash. Do they call it "black" because stores open before the sun comes up? The Christmas shopping season used to begin the day after Thanksgiving, but now it starts in September - so I don't understand the continuing mindset. Stores had the very same things on sale the day/week before. sf Practice safe eating - always use condiments |
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 04:36:58 -0600, Andy >
wrote: > I imagine it's a financial reference, "being in the black" as opposed > to "being in the red". Black isn't always good if you're talking about the stock market. http://mutualfunds.about.com/cs/1929...ck_tuesday.htm sf Practice safe eating - always use condiments |
sf wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 04:41:31 -0500, "Bob (this one)" > > wrote: > > >> I've never understood that "Black Friday" thing. When I was actively >> selling my food products in farmers' markets, it was always about 10 >> times better than my next best day. Black Friday should be reserved >> for disastrous occasions, not the ones that pay the bills. <G> > > > I've never heard the term before this year... I would have > thought it referenced some mafia style massacre, union clash > or stock market crash. Do they call it "black" because > stores open before the sun comes up? > I just heard why they call it "Black Friday" as it is the day that should put a stores finances in the black if it's a good sales day. It didn't make sense to me before either. Goomba |
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 07:52:56 -0600, "jmcquown"
> wrote: > Management expected huge crowds of people who didn't want to cook. Planned > a special menu with turkey, dressing, gravy, etc. I was the hostess that > day and I and the servers just stood around, bored to tears. You can only > clean tables so many times. The only folks who had any business were the > bartenders (ha! The guy should have come to work!) and the cocktail > waitresses. I think a couple of people came in to buy caramel pies on their > way to someones dinner. And I seem to recall being vaguely thrilled when I > seated a party of six. That must have been the longest 8 hours of my life. I've only been to a restaurant once or twice on Thanksgiving Day. All the restaurants had a booming business and reservations were necessary. sf Practice safe eating - always use condiments |
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 07:52:56 -0600, "jmcquown"
> wrote: > Management expected huge crowds of people who didn't want to cook. Planned > a special menu with turkey, dressing, gravy, etc. I was the hostess that > day and I and the servers just stood around, bored to tears. You can only > clean tables so many times. The only folks who had any business were the > bartenders (ha! The guy should have come to work!) and the cocktail > waitresses. I think a couple of people came in to buy caramel pies on their > way to someones dinner. And I seem to recall being vaguely thrilled when I > seated a party of six. That must have been the longest 8 hours of my life. I've only been to a restaurant once or twice on Thanksgiving Day. All the restaurants had a booming business and reservations were necessary. sf Practice safe eating - always use condiments |
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Dave Smith > wrote: > It's amazing that so many people will run out on a holiday to scoop up all > that > merchandise that is left over from Christmas. If the stores stayed closed > for > the extra day to celebrate a special family holiday they could still sell all > that stuff the next day. The only reason they have to open that day is > because > others are. It is unfortunate. And they're open because people will show up to buy. I'm not sure that people really think it through -- it's certainly not much of a Thanksgiving for the people who had to show up at Kohl's before 5 to open the store at 5:30. It's no different for Memorial Day and President's Day and the other holidays which have become less about commemoration and more about denomination (20s and 50s). Would American commerce really grind to a halt if most stores stayed closed on holidays? sd |
sd > wrote in news:sd55117-B47862.17135227112004
@news.mpls.visi.com: > It's no different for Memorial Day and President's Day and the other > holidays which have become less about commemoration and more about > denomination (20s and 50s). Would American commerce really grind to a > halt if most stores stayed closed on holidays? > > sd I was secretly hoping America would adopt siesta. That would help the "extremely long lunch" crowd. ;) Andy |
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Tony P. > wrote in
: > We have to keep in mind that the original colonies were set up by > religious nutcases that they couldn't abide in Merry Old England. > Autralia got the criminals, the States got the Jesus freaks. Amen! <g> -- Wayne in Phoenix *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. *A mind is a terrible thing to lose. |
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