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On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 4:45:45 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 4:59:16 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 9:42:48 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: > > > > > We installed Dish TV about a month ago, no antenna, no utility pole > > > wire, dish is only 14" diameter, works great. Last week we installed > > > Elon Musk's Space Link for internet, absolutely fantastic, speed is > > > incredible, 160 Mega Bytes per second. > > Bits, not bytes Speeds are always expressed in terms of bits. > > There are 8 bits in a byte. > > > > 160 Mbit is not all that impressive. We routinely get upward > > of 400 with a medium-tier cable connection. > > > > Cindy Hamilton > 4 bits of data is called a "nibble." Why are nibbles so important? It's the least number of bits needed to represent the numbers 0 to 9. With 4 bits you have some extra spaces left over so to make efficient use of all the numbers available from 0 to 15, the characters A, B, C, D, E, F, is used in a base 16 number system. Nobody cares about that anymore. I can't remember the last time I saw a program that used less than 32 bits for anything. 64 is now becoming common. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 5:05:05 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 13:45:42 -0800 (PST), dsi1 > > wrote: > > >On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 4:59:16 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > >> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 9:42:48 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: > >> > >> > We installed Dish TV about a month ago, no antenna, no utility pole > >> > wire, dish is only 14" diameter, works great. Last week we installed > >> > Elon Musk's Space Link for internet, absolutely fantastic, speed is > >> > incredible, 160 Mega Bytes per second. > >> Bits, not bytes Speeds are always expressed in terms of bits. > >> There are 8 bits in a byte. > >> > >> 160 Mbit is not all that impressive. We routinely get upward > >> of 400 with a medium-tier cable connection. > >> > >> Cindy Hamilton > > > >4 bits of data is called a "nibble." Why are nibbles so important? It's the least number of bits needed to represent the numbers 0 to 9. With 4 bits you have some extra spaces left over so to make efficient use of all the numbers available from 0 to 15, the characters A, B, C, D, E, F, is used in a base 16 number system. > I've no knowlege of bits, bytes, and nibbles... all I know is that > Space Link is wonderful... and each day with more satillites being put > into orbit it becomes better and better. > I'm certain that yoose who don't think it's any good are simply the > cheapo *******s who don't want to pay the price. It appears that Starlink costs $99/month. That's about what I'm paying for my cable internet service. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 4:53:05 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 4:45:45 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote: > > On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 4:59:16 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 9:42:48 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: > > > > > > > We installed Dish TV about a month ago, no antenna, no utility pole > > > > wire, dish is only 14" diameter, works great. Last week we installed > > > > Elon Musk's Space Link for internet, absolutely fantastic, speed is > > > > incredible, 160 Mega Bytes per second. > > > Bits, not bytes Speeds are always expressed in terms of bits. > > > There are 8 bits in a byte. > > > > > > 160 Mbit is not all that impressive. We routinely get upward > > > of 400 with a medium-tier cable connection. > > > > > > Cindy Hamilton > > 4 bits of data is called a "nibble." Why are nibbles so important? It's the least number of bits needed to represent the numbers 0 to 9. With 4 bits you have some extra spaces left over so to make efficient use of all the numbers available from 0 to 15, the characters A, B, C, D, E, F, is used in a base 16 number system. > > Nobody cares about that anymore. I can't remember the last time I > saw a program that used less than 32 bits for anything. 64 is now > becoming common. Among the newer generation, 12 GB delivering 110 teraflops is now common. |
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On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 5:49:27 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 4:53:05 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 4:45:45 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote: > > > On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 4:59:16 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 9:42:48 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: > > > > > > > > > We installed Dish TV about a month ago, no antenna, no utility pole > > > > > wire, dish is only 14" diameter, works great. Last week we installed > > > > > Elon Musk's Space Link for internet, absolutely fantastic, speed is > > > > > incredible, 160 Mega Bytes per second. > > > > Bits, not bytes Speeds are always expressed in terms of bits. > > > > There are 8 bits in a byte. > > > > > > > > 160 Mbit is not all that impressive. We routinely get upward > > > > of 400 with a medium-tier cable connection. > > > > > > > > Cindy Hamilton > > > 4 bits of data is called a "nibble." Why are nibbles so important? It's the least number of bits needed to represent the numbers 0 to 9. With 4 bits you have some extra spaces left over so to make efficient use of all the numbers available from 0 to 15, the characters A, B, C, D, E, F, is used in a base 16 number system. > > > > Nobody cares about that anymore. I can't remember the last time I > > saw a program that used less than 32 bits for anything. 64 is now > > becoming common. > Among the newer generation, 12 GB delivering 110 teraflops is now common. We're not even talking about the same thing. dsi1 and I are talking about variable sizes and the smallest size that can be addressed. Cindy Hamilton |
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GM wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> My grandmother would rise up out of her grave and give me a good >> talking-to if I mentioned by bosom in public. >> >> Cindy Hamilton > > > What If you were Jayne Mansfield...??? Damn Greg. You must be older than I thought if you still think of Jayne Mansfield when naming a hot young woman. LOL That said, my old time hottie was Audrey Hepburn |
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 03:39:56 -0800, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> We're not even talking about the same thing. dsi1 and I are talking > about variable sizes and the smallest size that can be addressed. Please don't get me started. Just for fun, I'm working on a DOS boot diskette that installs Windows 3.11. I had to re-learn the following memory terms: DOS, Conventional, High, Low, Upper, 'Page Frame', EMS, UMB, XMS, EMM, 'Protected Mode', 'Real Mode'. Also the history & legacy of the 'A20 Line handler' hardware bug. |
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On 3/11/2021 3:44 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 3:52:12 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote: >> On 3/10/2021 1:15 PM, wrote: >>> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 7:20:33 AM UTC-6, Snag wrote: >>>> >>>> That still sounds like a big bill for an antenna , but then it's been >>>> a long time since I paid anyone to do this kind of work . >>>> We'll be paying our house in Memphis off 9 years early this fall ... >>>> -- >>>> Snag >>>> >>> I saw some top rated outside antennas for sale at Lowe's for $40 plus >>> tax. But then I'd have to get someone to come install it so I opted for >>> this one-time installation and be done with it. >>> >>> It certainly doesn't look like any outside roof antenna that I've ever >>> seen. Honestly, it reminds me of a miniature white hammerhead >>> shark. >>> >> Oh I understand ! Not every one has the tools , inclination , and >> ability to do this kind of thing . For instance , if you get much past >> pie are square in math , I'm just totally lost ! > > I think you have a better intuitive grasp of geometry than you > let on. > > How do you determine if your door framing is square? > > Cindy Hamilton > Hold a square up to it ? Actually , you're right . I just never could grasp algebra firmly . And besides , pie are round , CORNBREAD are square ! -- Snag In 1775, the British demanded we give them our guns. We shot them |
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On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 7:46:03 AM UTC-5, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 03:39:56 -0800, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > We're not even talking about the same thing. dsi1 and I are talking > > about variable sizes and the smallest size that can be addressed. > Please don't get me started. Just for fun, I'm working on a DOS boot > diskette that installs Windows 3.11. I had to re-learn the following > memory terms: > > DOS, Conventional, High, Low, Upper, 'Page Frame', EMS, UMB, XMS, EMM, > 'Protected Mode', 'Real Mode'. > > Also the history & legacy of the 'A20 Line handler' hardware bug. Ew. I'm all about 64-bit Linux nowadays. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 8:04:00 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
> On 3/11/2021 3:44 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 3:52:12 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote: > >> On 3/10/2021 1:15 PM, wrote: > >>> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 7:20:33 AM UTC-6, Snag wrote: > >>>> > >>>> That still sounds like a big bill for an antenna , but then it's been > >>>> a long time since I paid anyone to do this kind of work . > >>>> We'll be paying our house in Memphis off 9 years early this fall ... > >>>> -- > >>>> Snag > >>>> > >>> I saw some top rated outside antennas for sale at Lowe's for $40 plus > >>> tax. But then I'd have to get someone to come install it so I opted for > >>> this one-time installation and be done with it. > >>> > >>> It certainly doesn't look like any outside roof antenna that I've ever > >>> seen. Honestly, it reminds me of a miniature white hammerhead > >>> shark. > >>> > >> Oh I understand ! Not every one has the tools , inclination , and > >> ability to do this kind of thing . For instance , if you get much past > >> pie are square in math , I'm just totally lost ! > > > > I think you have a better intuitive grasp of geometry than you > > let on. > > > > How do you determine if your door framing is square? > > > > Cindy Hamilton > > > Hold a square up to it ? Actually , you're right . I just never could > grasp algebra firmly . Measure the diagonals. If they're equal, it's square. There's too much wiggle room using a square, especially on something large. > And besides , pie are round , CORNBREAD are square ! Unless you bake cornbread in a cast-iron skillet. Then it's roughly a truncated cone, since the sides slope outward from the bottom. Very truncated. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 8:04:00 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
> Hold a square up to it ? Actually , you're right . I just never could > grasp algebra firmly . Here, let's make your head explode: <https://xkcd.com/> Cindy Hamilton |
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 01:45:00 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 3:52:37 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >> On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 06:59:13 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton >> > wrote: >> >> >On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 9:42:48 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: >> > >> >> We installed Dish TV about a month ago, no antenna, no utility pole >> >> wire, dish is only 14" diameter, works great. Last week we installed >> >> Elon Musk's Space Link for internet, absolutely fantastic, speed is >> >> incredible, 160 Mega Bytes per second. >> > >> >Bits, not bytes Speeds are always expressed in terms of bits. >> >There are 8 bits in a byte. >> > >> >160 Mbit is not all that impressive. We routinely get upward >> >of 400 with a medium-tier cable connection. >> Space link is SATELLITE, not cable, dumb ass. 160mbps is a very good >> speed. > >I know that, dumbass. I still wouldn't brag about the speed. Oh, SURE you did......... ;-) 160mbps IS good for satellite Internet. Unless you care to provide examples of faster satellite services? -- The real Bruce posts with Eternal September |
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On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 3:47:25 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 01:45:00 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton > > wrote: > > >On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 3:52:37 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: > >> On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 06:59:13 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton > >> > wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 9:42:48 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: > >> > > >> >> We installed Dish TV about a month ago, no antenna, no utility pole > >> >> wire, dish is only 14" diameter, works great. Last week we installed > >> >> Elon Musk's Space Link for internet, absolutely fantastic, speed is > >> >> incredible, 160 Mega Bytes per second. > >> > > >> >Bits, not bytes Speeds are always expressed in terms of bits. > >> >There are 8 bits in a byte. > >> > > >> >160 Mbit is not all that impressive. We routinely get upward > >> >of 400 with a medium-tier cable connection. > >> Space link is SATELLITE, not cable, dumb ass. 160mbps is a very good > >> speed. > > > >I know that, dumbass. I still wouldn't brag about the speed. > Oh, SURE you did......... ;-) 160mbps IS good for satellite Internet. > Unless you care to provide examples of faster satellite services? It's like bragging your Corvair is better than your old Edsel. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 13:04:34 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 3:47:25 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >> On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 01:45:00 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton >> > wrote: >> >> >On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 3:52:37 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 06:59:13 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 9:42:48 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> We installed Dish TV about a month ago, no antenna, no utility pole >> >> >> wire, dish is only 14" diameter, works great. Last week we installed >> >> >> Elon Musk's Space Link for internet, absolutely fantastic, speed is >> >> >> incredible, 160 Mega Bytes per second. >> >> > >> >> >Bits, not bytes Speeds are always expressed in terms of bits. >> >> >There are 8 bits in a byte. >> >> > >> >> >160 Mbit is not all that impressive. We routinely get upward >> >> >of 400 with a medium-tier cable connection. >> >> Space link is SATELLITE, not cable, dumb ass. 160mbps is a very good >> >> speed. >> > >> >I know that, dumbass. I still wouldn't brag about the speed. >> Oh, SURE you did......... ;-) 160mbps IS good for satellite Internet. >> Unless you care to provide examples of faster satellite services? > >It's like bragging your Corvair is better than your old Edsel. > >Cindy Hamilton\ Inability to provide an answer supporting your argument noted. Is it just too painful to admit you were wrong? -- The real Bruce posts with Eternal September |
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On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 3:50:38 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 3:58:11 PM UTC-5, wrote: > > > > When I get two feet off the ground my head spins like a top. > > > I can climb up, no problem. Sometimes I have trouble steeling > myself to make the transition back down from the roof to the > ladder. > Going up is no problem, it's looking down just once that makes me freeze. > > > > I made up to the roof I'd not have a clue what to do. > > > I was that way until I married a DIYer. Thirty-some years of > helping him has taught me a ton. > My brothers and my nephew roofed my house 25+ years ago and insisted I had to come up and help. Well, once I got up there I couldn't move, I thought they were going to have to shoot me to get me down. > > > > As far as math, > > once I take off my shoes and all I have are twenty digits counting the > > fingers, too, I'm lost. > > ![]() > > > I've never understood that, but I guess that's just how brains are > wired differently. If you follow the rules and don't make any little > mistakes along the way, you'll always get the right answer. I haven't > had to do so in decades, but I still know how to solve a quadratic > equation. > > Cindy Hamilton > My father, two of my brothers and my maternal grandmother were absolute whizzes in math. I must have been standing behind the door when they passed out math brains. I'm decent with pencil and paper but no genius doing any figuring in my head. |
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On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 2:46:00 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:24:47 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > > >On 3/10/2021 5:26 PM, Graham wrote: > >> On 2021-03-10 2:15 p.m., wrote: > >>> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 3:01:48 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Maybe you have 18 digits and have never realised it! > >>>> > >>> Ten toes and ten fingers, no more, no less. But I'll tell you this. It > >>> was a life-changing moment when Texas Instruments introduced > >>> their handheld calculators 40+ years ago!! > >>> > >> My 35yr-old HP calculator has just developed a fault. Batteries last 10 > >> days instead of 15months. I really prefer the RPN logic that it uses and > >> detest the usual algebraic calculators that are the norm, it seems. > > > >Yes, Reverse Polish Notation. Still a few around but most people have > >no idea about them. My preference also. > Only because it's Polish? > -- > The real Bruce posts with Eternal September Using Reverse Polish Notation, you can enter equations faster and easier because you don't have to be using brackets to force the sequence of operations on terms. You enter the equations from the "inside out" and store intermediate values into a stack using the "=" key. RPN allows a geeky boy to be faster than some other geeky boys that don't have HP calculators that have to enter equations from left to right and get all confused with brackets. When I was in a class lecture in college, the guy sitting in front of me turned around and fanned out 6 crisp hundred dollar bills and said he was going to buy a programmable HP calculator that day. That was pretty bizarre, actually. I don't know why he did that - I guess he was one happy, excited, geek. |
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 18:09:54 -0800, dsi1 wrote:
> buy a programmable HP calculator that day. I have 2 HP-35s. They still worked a few years ago. |
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On 2021-03-11 8:45 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 18:09:54 -0800, dsi1 wrote: > >> buy a programmable HP calculator that day. > > I have 2 HP-35s. They still worked a few years ago. > I have one but the battery pack is kaput, as is the transformer lead. |
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On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 4:39:20 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 8:47:22 PM UTC-5, wrote: > > On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 3:50:38 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > > > > On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 3:58:11 PM UTC-5, wrote: > > > > > > > > When I get two feet off the ground my head spins like a top. > > > > > > > I can climb up, no problem. Sometimes I have trouble steeling > > > myself to make the transition back down from the roof to the > > > ladder. > > > > > Going up is no problem, it's looking down just once that makes me freeze. > > > > > > > > I made up to the roof I'd not have a clue what to do. > > > > > > > I was that way until I married a DIYer. Thirty-some years of > > > helping him has taught me a ton. > > > > > My brothers and my nephew roofed my house 25+ years ago and insisted I > > had to come up and help. Well, once I got up there I couldn't move, I thought > > they were going to have to shoot me to get me down. > > > > > > > > As far as math, > > > > once I take off my shoes and all I have are twenty digits counting the > > > > fingers, too, I'm lost. > > > > ![]() > > > > > > > I've never understood that, but I guess that's just how brains are > > > wired differently. If you follow the rules and don't make any little > > > mistakes along the way, you'll always get the right answer. I haven't > > > had to do so in decades, but I still know how to solve a quadratic > > > equation. > > > > > > Cindy Hamilton > > > > > My father, two of my brothers and my maternal grandmother were absolute > > whizzes in math. I must have been standing behind the door when they > > passed out math brains. I'm decent with pencil and paper but no genius > > doing any figuring in my head. > > That's not math. That's arithmetic. Arithmetic is a branch of mathematics. |
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On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 11:29:08 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 4:39:20 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > That's not math. That's arithmetic. > Arithmetic is a branch of mathematics. And a screwdriver is a branch of carpentry. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 12:56:22 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 11:29:08 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote: > > On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 4:39:20 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > > That's not math. That's arithmetic. > > Arithmetic is a branch of mathematics. > And a screwdriver is a branch of carpentry. > > Cindy Hamilton Just sayin' |
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On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 3:39:20 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 8:47:22 PM UTC-5, wrote: > > > > My father, two of my brothers and my maternal grandmother were absolute > > whizzes in math. I must have been standing behind the door when they > > passed out math brains. I'm decent with pencil and paper but no genius > > doing any figuring in my head. > > > That's not math. That's arithmetic. Mental arithmetic is mostly about > patterns and shortcuts. I had a professor who could multiply three-digit > numbers in his head faster than we could bang them out on our calculator. > > Cindy Hamilton > You got my drift. |
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 01:44:31 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >I think you have a better intuitive grasp of geometry than you >let on. > >How do you determine if your door framing is square? Does it prefer Bing Crosby or Lydia Lunch? -- The real Bruce posts with Eternal Smugness |
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