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Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:05:04 -0000, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > >> >> >> Yes! I got mine over a week ago, and he got his yesterday! Just the first >> ones though! I get my second on the last week in April. He hasn't been >> told yet. >> >> You? > > That's good. It hasn't started here yet, I believe. They start > sometime this month, but I won't be high on the list. > You're already immune. |
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On 2/14/2021 11:49 AM, Graham wrote:
> On 2021-02-14 12:43 p.m., Taxed and Spent wrote: >> On 2/14/2021 11:37 AM, US Janet wrote: >>> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:25:09 -0500, Dave Smith >>> > wrote: >>> >>> snip >>>> >>>> I simply expressed my objection to being told by the self righteous to >>>> follow the science when we were being told different stories every few >>>> days. As Taxed and Spent pointed out, theyÂ* kept telling us we didn't >>>> need masks when there was a shortage of them. >>> >>> Â* that was a short period of time and referred specificlly to N95 masks >>> that were needed for health personnel. >>> >>> Janet US >>> >> >> >> A lie, nonetheless. And I don't think the lie was limited to N95 masks. > > How many lies did Trump tell during his sojourn? And you are getting > your knickers in a twist over just this ONE? > I don't like any lies. |
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Hank Rogers wrote:
> Bruce wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:05:04 -0000, "Ophelia" > > > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Yes! I got mine over a week ago, and he got his yesterday! Just the first > >> ones though! I get my second on the last week in April. He hasn't been > >> told yet. > >> > >> You? > > > > That's good. It hasn't started here yet, I believe. They start > > sometime this month, but I won't be high on the list. > > > > You're already immune. And anyways, the virus is looking for a more intelligent host than OAFelia... -- Best Greg |
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"Bruce" wrote in message ... On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 17:30:08 -0000, "Ophelia" > wrote: > > >"Bruce" wrote in message .. . > >On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:05:04 -0000, "Ophelia" > >wrote: > >> >> >>Yes! I got mine over a week ago, and he got his yesterday! Just the first >>ones though! I get my second on the last week in April. He hasn't been >>told yet. >> >>You? > >That's good. It hasn't started here yet, I believe. They start >sometime this month, but I won't be high on the list. > >=== > >Depends on age and health! Yes. I'm (just) under 60 and have no underlying conditions. Maybe sometime in the second half of the year. === Aye you could be well down the list, it depends on how your country intends to work it. I think that today, Boris (PM) said he was now looking at the 50s!! |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:15:56 -0800, Taxed and Spent
> wrote: >On 2/14/2021 10:38 AM, Bruce wrote: >> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 10:34:11 -0800, Taxed and Spent >> > wrote: >> >>> On 2/14/2021 9:26 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Taxed and Spent" wrote in message ... >>>> >>>> On 2/14/2021 7:29 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Taxed and Spent" wrote in message ... >>>>> >>>>> On 2/14/2021 6:13 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Gary" wrote in message ... >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/14/2021 6:05 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>> Yes! I got mine over a week ago, and he got his yesterday! Just the >>>>>>> first ones though! I get my second on the last week in April. He >>>>>>> hasn't been told yet. >>>>>> >>>>>> Huh? I've heard that you need to get the second one in 2-3 weeks, not >>>>>> months later. >>>>>> >>>>>> === >>>>>> >>>>>> That is how it started but it has lengthened now! They say it is >>>>>> better! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> They say it is better because the logistics are screwed up (after local >>>>> and state agencies knowing for over a year this was coming . . .) and >>>>> this new story fits the logistics. No studies cited. >>>>> >>>>> You know, masks were unnecessary. Before they were, after the supply >>>>> problem eased. >>>>> >>>>> ==== >>>>> >>>>> Not here. We were always told to wear masks. I think it was Mr >>>>> Trump >>>>> that said they weren't necessary >>>>> >>>> >>>> Of course you think that. But you are wrong. It was Dr. Fauci. You >>>> know, the "gold standards" guy. LOL. >>>> >>>> ==== >>>> >>>> I have no intention of arguing about this. Was it, or was it not, Trump >>>> who said masks were not necessary? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> Fauci said it. If Trump said it, I guess he was taking the advise of >>> our nation's most trusted medical advisor. >> >> Trump always tried to downplay covid. He was afraid the pandemic would >> affect the economy and the economy was his ticket to re-election. He >> didn't care how many people died in the meantime. Narcissism..., right >> Bryan? >> > > >But those who played it up to sometimes hysterical levels with the >intent of harming Trump's reelection chances are okey dokey, eh? I didn't see any hysterical levels. People are actually dying. |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:43:50 -0800, Taxed and Spent
> wrote: >On 2/14/2021 11:37 AM, US Janet wrote: >> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:25:09 -0500, Dave Smith >> > wrote: >> >> snip >>> >>> I simply expressed my objection to being told by the self righteous to >>> follow the science when we were being told different stories every few >>> days. As Taxed and Spent pointed out, they kept telling us we didn't >>> need masks when there was a shortage of them. >> >> that was a short period of time and referred specificlly to N95 masks >> that were needed for health personnel. >> >> Janet US >> > > >A lie, nonetheless. And I don't think the lie was limited to N95 masks. I never considered it a lie that came from Fauci. I followed different news sources than you. We were already wearing masks made of cloth. Thousands of women were making cloth masks because masks were necessary and we didn't want to interfere with the supply. I can't imagine how you missed all that. Meanwhile rump was not wearing a mask and it was almost daily news that he refused to wear a mask and said they were not necessary. Locally there was a lot of bitching and moaning that states were no mandating mask wearing and that duty fell to mayors. The white house sponsored news/health reports had rump standing behind his scientific spokespeople reading 'reports' that we had been able to read earlier that were direct from the science groups. Shortly thereafter various science groups were down graded and members fired because they didn't line up properly behind rump story. I don't read social media at all. I read what rump labeled 'fake news.' The real stuff that can be fact checked. Janet US |
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"US Janet" wrote in message ... On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 17:26:34 -0000, "Ophelia" > wrote: > > >"Taxed and Spent" wrote in message ... > >On 2/14/2021 7:29 AM, Ophelia wrote: >> >> >> "Taxed and Spent" wrote in message ... >> >> On 2/14/2021 6:13 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Gary" wrote in message ... >>> >>> On 2/14/2021 6:05 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>> Yes! I got mine over a week ago, and he got his yesterday! Just the >>>> first ones though! I get my second on the last week in April. He >>>> hasn't been told yet. >>> >>> Huh? I've heard that you need to get the second one in 2-3 weeks, not >>> months later. >>> >>> === >>> >>> That is how it started but it has lengthened now! They say it is >>> better! >>> >>> >> >> >> They say it is better because the logistics are screwed up (after local >> and state agencies knowing for over a year this was coming . . .) and >> this new story fits the logistics. No studies cited. >> >> You know, masks were unnecessary. Before they were, after the supply >> problem eased. >> >> ==== >> >> Not here. We were always told to wear masks. I think it was Mr >> Trump >> that said they weren't necessary >> > >Of course you think that. But you are wrong. It was Dr. Fauci. You >know, the "gold standards" guy. LOL. > >==== > > I have no intention of arguing about this. Was it, or was it not, Trump >who said masks were not necessary? > > You are correct, O. rump said it again and again and again. Janet US ==== Thank you, Janet! I knew I had seen him say it!! |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:27:05 -0800, Taxed and Spent
> wrote: >" The trials of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine did include different >spacing between doses, finding that a longer gap (two to three months) >led to a greater immune response, but the overall participant numbers >were small. In the UK study 59% (1407 of 2377) of the participants who >had two standard doses received the second dose between nine and 12 >weeks after the first. In the Brazil study only 18.6% (384 of 2063) >received a second dose between nine and 12 weeks after the first.3 The >combined trial results, published in the Lancet,4 found that vaccine >efficacy 14 days after a second dose was higher in the group that had >more than six weeks between the two doses (65.4%) than in the group that >had less than six weeks between doses (53.4%)." > >Pretty small test group. Hmm. I guess you'd have preferred a virus that came with a manual. No research required, no learning curve. Just read the manual. Maybe next time. |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:31:46 -0800, Taxed and Spent
> wrote: >"follow the science" simply means "do as you are told, when you are told." As opposed to "ignore the facts, just believe what suits our agenda". |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:43:50 -0800, Taxed and Spent
> wrote: >On 2/14/2021 11:37 AM, US Janet wrote: >> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:25:09 -0500, Dave Smith >> > wrote: >> >> snip >>> >>> I simply expressed my objection to being told by the self righteous to >>> follow the science when we were being told different stories every few >>> days. As Taxed and Spent pointed out, they kept telling us we didn't >>> need masks when there was a shortage of them. >> >> that was a short period of time and referred specificlly to N95 masks >> that were needed for health personnel. >> >> Janet US >> > > >A lie, nonetheless. And I don't think the lie was limited to N95 masks. Oh well, if that was a lie then it's Fauci One, Trump One Thousand. Funny that I never see you go on about Trump :) |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:47:10 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2021-02-14 2:37 p.m., US Janet wrote: >> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:25:09 -0500, Dave Smith >> > wrote: >> >> snip >>> >>> I simply expressed my objection to being told by the self righteous to >>> follow the science when we were being told different stories every few >>> days. As Taxed and Spent pointed out, they kept telling us we didn't >>> need masks when there was a shortage of them. >> >> that was a short period of time and referred specificlly to N95 masks >> that were needed for health personnel. >> > >At first they were happy with a mask. Then it was suggested that the >mask have two layers. Recently they have been pushing for a three layer >mask. That's so mean of them! |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:50:06 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 2:47:15 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote: >> On 2021-02-14 2:37 p.m., US Janet wrote: >> > On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:25:09 -0500, Dave Smith >> > > wrote: >> > >> > snip >> >> >> >> I simply expressed my objection to being told by the self righteous to >> >> follow the science when we were being told different stories every few >> >> days. As Taxed and Spent pointed out, they kept telling us we didn't >> >> need masks when there was a shortage of them. >> > >> > that was a short period of time and referred specificlly to N95 masks >> > that were needed for health personnel. >> > >> At first they were happy with a mask. > >Something is better than nothing. > >> Then it was suggested that the >> mask have two layers. > >Two somethings are better than one something. > >> Recently they have been pushing for a three layer >> mask. > >With the advent of more-transmissible strains, I can see >why they'd recommend additional protection. You're using your brain. That's not fair! They don't have one! |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:53:42 -0500, David Crossley
> wrote: >In article >, says... >> >> On 2021-02-14 12:41 p.m., David Crossley wrote: >> > In article >, says... >> >> >> >> On 2021-02-14 12:25 p.m., Dave Smith wrote: >> >>> On 2021-02-14 1:02 p.m., Graham wrote: >> >>>> On 2021-02-14 10:29 a.m., S Viemeister wrote: >> >>> facts, so the conclusions should not be changing repeatedly. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> FFS!! Things change as you learn more!!! >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Indeed. >> >>>>> Somewhere, I have an essay written by my molecular biologist niece on >> >>>>> that very subject. >> >>>>> >> >>>> Shhhhh! Too many blocked ears and blinkered eyes around here! >> >>> >> >>> Who has the blocked ears and blinkered eyes?Â* I do wear a mask in public >> >>> spaces. I have never raised a stink about having to do it. I have never >> >>> refused.Â* As soon as I go out and am distanced from people it comes off. >> >>> >> >>> I simply expressed my objection to being told by the self righteous to >> >>> follow the science when we were being told different stories every few >> >>> days. >> >> >> >> That's due to the appallingly low level of science journalism! Most >> >> report National Enquirer-type titbits with no informed discussion. >> >> >> > Wrong, Fauci admitted he lied in order to try and prevent >> > a massive run on N95 masks, he wanted to save them for >> > the first responders and medical people at the time. >> > -- >> > Regards >> > David Crossley >> > >> And you see this as a capital crime? >> >No Dimmy, I see it for exactly what it is, a life threatening lie. If you feel that way about Fauci, you must want to send Trump to the electric chair. |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:58:09 -0800, Taxed and Spent
> wrote: >On 2/14/2021 11:49 AM, Graham wrote: >> On 2021-02-14 12:43 p.m., Taxed and Spent wrote: >>> On 2/14/2021 11:37 AM, US Janet wrote: >>>> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:25:09 -0500, Dave Smith >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> snip >>>>> >>>>> I simply expressed my objection to being told by the self righteous to >>>>> follow the science when we were being told different stories every few >>>>> days. As Taxed and Spent pointed out, theyÂ* kept telling us we didn't >>>>> need masks when there was a shortage of them. >>>> >>>> Â* that was a short period of time and referred specificlly to N95 masks >>>> that were needed for health personnel. >>>> >>>> Janet US >>>> >>> >>> >>> A lie, nonetheless. And I don't think the lie was limited to N95 masks. >> >> How many lies did Trump tell during his sojourn? And you are getting >> your knickers in a twist over just this ONE? >> > >I don't like any lies. So do you hate Trump? |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 20:23:55 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote: > > >"Bruce" wrote in message ... > >On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 17:30:08 -0000, "Ophelia" > >wrote: > >> >> >>"Bruce" wrote in message . .. >> >>On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:05:04 -0000, "Ophelia" > >>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>Yes! I got mine over a week ago, and he got his yesterday! Just the first >>>ones though! I get my second on the last week in April. He hasn't been >>>told yet. >>> >>>You? >> >>That's good. It hasn't started here yet, I believe. They start >>sometime this month, but I won't be high on the list. >> >>=== >> >>Depends on age and health! > >Yes. I'm (just) under 60 and have no underlying conditions. Maybe >sometime in the second half of the year. > >=== > > Aye you could be well down the list, it depends on how your country >intends to work it. > > I think that today, Boris (PM) said he was now looking at the 50s!! Our state hasn't had any covid cases for 28 days, so it's not as urgent here. |
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"Bruce" wrote in message ... On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:27:05 -0800, Taxed and Spent > wrote: >" The trials of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine did include different >spacing between doses, finding that a longer gap (two to three months) >led to a greater immune response, but the overall participant numbers >were small. In the UK study 59% (1407 of 2377) of the participants who >had two standard doses received the second dose between nine and 12 >weeks after the first. In the Brazil study only 18.6% (384 of 2063) >received a second dose between nine and 12 weeks after the first.3 The >combined trial results, published in the Lancet,4 found that vaccine >efficacy 14 days after a second dose was higher in the group that had >more than six weeks between the two doses (65.4%) than in the group that >had less than six weeks between doses (53.4%)." > >Pretty small test group. Hmm. I guess you'd have preferred a virus that came with a manual. No research required, no learning curve. Just read the manual. Maybe next time. == We had the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine! |
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> On 2021-02-13 9:52 a.m., Sheldon Martin wrote: > >> Generally >> motocycle batteries will last twice as long as car batteries, >> motorcycles draw no current with the engine off, unless you add an >> after market anti-theft device. Don't know much about motorcycles do ya Binky . Due to the vibrations most motorcycle batteries last a shorter time than car batteries . And modern fuel injected bikes have to keep power on the computer , plus the big touring bikes with radios use a small trickle to keep presets in memory . -- Snag In 1775, the British demanded we give them our guns. We shot them |
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In article >, says...
> > On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:41:13 -0500, David Crossley > > wrote: > > >In article >, says... > >> > >> On 2021-02-14 12:25 p.m., Dave Smith wrote: > >> > On 2021-02-14 1:02 p.m., Graham wrote: > >> >> On 2021-02-14 10:29 a.m., S Viemeister wrote: > >> > facts, so the conclusions should not be changing repeatedly. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> FFS!! Things change as you learn more!!! > >> >>> > >> >>> Indeed. > >> >>> Somewhere, I have an essay written by my molecular biologist niece on > >> >>> that very subject. > >> >>> > >> >> Shhhhh! Too many blocked ears and blinkered eyes around here! > >> > > >> > Who has the blocked ears and blinkered eyes?* I do wear a mask in public > >> > spaces. I have never raised a stink about having to do it. I have never > >> > refused.* As soon as I go out and am distanced from people it comes off. > >> > > >> > I simply expressed my objection to being told by the self righteous to > >> > follow the science when we were being told different stories every few > >> > days. > >> > >> That's due to the appallingly low level of science journalism! Most > >> report National Enquirer-type titbits with no informed discussion. > >> > >Wrong, Fauci admitted he lied in order to try and prevent > >a massive run on N95 masks, he wanted to save them for > >the first responders and medical people at the time. > > Very smart. > Idiot! You wouldn't be saying that if you had lost a loved one to covid that might have not caught it if they had been wearing a mask, after being assured by Fauci that they didn't need to wear one, back in the early days of the pandemic. -- Regards David Crossley |
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> > On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:53:42 -0500, David Crossley > > wrote: > > >In article >, says... > >> > >> On 2021-02-14 12:41 p.m., David Crossley wrote: > >> > In article >, says... > >> >> > >> >> On 2021-02-14 12:25 p.m., Dave Smith wrote: > >> >>> On 2021-02-14 1:02 p.m., Graham wrote: > >> >>>> On 2021-02-14 10:29 a.m., S Viemeister wrote: > >> >>> facts, so the conclusions should not be changing repeatedly. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> FFS!! Things change as you learn more!!! > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Indeed. > >> >>>>> Somewhere, I have an essay written by my molecular biologist niece on > >> >>>>> that very subject. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> Shhhhh! Too many blocked ears and blinkered eyes around here! > >> >>> > >> >>> Who has the blocked ears and blinkered eyes?* I do wear a mask in public > >> >>> spaces. I have never raised a stink about having to do it. I have never > >> >>> refused.* As soon as I go out and am distanced from people it comes off. > >> >>> > >> >>> I simply expressed my objection to being told by the self righteous to > >> >>> follow the science when we were being told different stories every few > >> >>> days. > >> >> > >> >> That's due to the appallingly low level of science journalism! Most > >> >> report National Enquirer-type titbits with no informed discussion. > >> >> > >> > Wrong, Fauci admitted he lied in order to try and prevent > >> > a massive run on N95 masks, he wanted to save them for > >> > the first responders and medical people at the time. > >> > -- > >> > Regards > >> > David Crossley > >> > > >> And you see this as a capital crime? > >> > >No Dimmy, I see it for exactly what it is, a life threatening lie. > > If you feel that way about Fauci, you must want to send Trump to the > electric chair. > And miss watching you whine like a little bitch about Trump everyday? Not a chance! -- Regards David Crossley |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 15:45:36 -0500, David Crossley
> wrote: >In article >, says... >> >> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:41:13 -0500, David Crossley >> > wrote: >> >> >In article >, says... >> >> >> >> On 2021-02-14 12:25 p.m., Dave Smith wrote: >> >> > On 2021-02-14 1:02 p.m., Graham wrote: >> >> >> On 2021-02-14 10:29 a.m., S Viemeister wrote: >> >> > facts, so the conclusions should not be changing repeatedly. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> FFS!! Things change as you learn more!!! >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Indeed. >> >> >>> Somewhere, I have an essay written by my molecular biologist niece on >> >> >>> that very subject. >> >> >>> >> >> >> Shhhhh! Too many blocked ears and blinkered eyes around here! >> >> > >> >> > Who has the blocked ears and blinkered eyes?Â* I do wear a mask in public >> >> > spaces. I have never raised a stink about having to do it. I have never >> >> > refused.Â* As soon as I go out and am distanced from people it comes off. >> >> > >> >> > I simply expressed my objection to being told by the self righteous to >> >> > follow the science when we were being told different stories every few >> >> > days. >> >> >> >> That's due to the appallingly low level of science journalism! Most >> >> report National Enquirer-type titbits with no informed discussion. >> >> >> >Wrong, Fauci admitted he lied in order to try and prevent >> >a massive run on N95 masks, he wanted to save them for >> >the first responders and medical people at the time. >> >> Very smart. >> >Idiot! You wouldn't be saying that if you had lost a loved one >to covid that might have not caught it if they had been >wearing a mask, after being assured by Fauci that they >didn't need to wear one, back in the early days of the >pandemic. First responders and medical people without a mask would have killed many more people. It's strange how critical you all are of Fauci and how you never criticise Trump :) |
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On 14/02/2021 20:43, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "Bruce"Â* wrote in message > ... > > On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:27:05 -0800, Taxed and Spent > > wrote: > >> " The trials of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine did include different >> spacing between doses, finding that a longer gap (two to three months) >> led to a greater immune response, but the overall participant numbers >> were small. In the UK study 59% (1407 of 2377) of the participants who >> had two standard doses received the second dose between nine and 12 >> weeks after the first. In the Brazil study only 18.6% (384 of 2063) >> received a second dose between nine and 12 weeks after the first.3 The >> combined trial results, published in the Lancet,4 found that vaccine >> efficacy 14 days after a second dose was higher in the group that had >> more than six weeks between the two doses (65.4%) than in the group that >> had less than six weeks between doses (53.4%)." >> >> Pretty small test group.Â* Hmm. > > I guess you'd have preferred a virus that came with a manual. No > research required, no learning curve. Just read the manual. Maybe next > time. > > == > > We had theÂ* Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine! > > As did I. |
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On 2/14/2021 12:39 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:58:09 -0800, Taxed and Spent > > wrote: > >> On 2/14/2021 11:49 AM, Graham wrote: >>> On 2021-02-14 12:43 p.m., Taxed and Spent wrote: >>>> On 2/14/2021 11:37 AM, US Janet wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:25:09 -0500, Dave Smith >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> snip >>>>>> >>>>>> I simply expressed my objection to being told by the self righteous to >>>>>> follow the science when we were being told different stories every few >>>>>> days. As Taxed and Spent pointed out, theyÂ* kept telling us we didn't >>>>>> need masks when there was a shortage of them. >>>>> >>>>> Â* that was a short period of time and referred specificlly to N95 masks >>>>> that were needed for health personnel. >>>>> >>>>> Janet US >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> A lie, nonetheless. And I don't think the lie was limited to N95 masks. >>> >>> How many lies did Trump tell during his sojourn? And you are getting >>> your knickers in a twist over just this ONE? >>> >> >> I don't like any lies. > > So do you hate Trump? > I don't hate anybody. I don't like lies, regardless of who tells them. And thus I don't like liars. But hate is a different matter. |
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> > On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 15:45:36 -0500, David Crossley > > wrote: > > >In article >, says... > >> > >> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:41:13 -0500, David Crossley > >> > wrote: > >> > >> >In article >, says... > >> >> > >> >> On 2021-02-14 12:25 p.m., Dave Smith wrote: > >> >> > On 2021-02-14 1:02 p.m., Graham wrote: > >> >> >> On 2021-02-14 10:29 a.m., S Viemeister wrote: > >> >> > facts, so the conclusions should not be changing repeatedly. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> FFS!! Things change as you learn more!!! > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Indeed. > >> >> >>> Somewhere, I have an essay written by my molecular biologist niece on > >> >> >>> that very subject. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> Shhhhh! Too many blocked ears and blinkered eyes around here! > >> >> > > >> >> > Who has the blocked ears and blinkered eyes?* I do wear a mask in public > >> >> > spaces. I have never raised a stink about having to do it. I have never > >> >> > refused.* As soon as I go out and am distanced from people it comes off. > >> >> > > >> >> > I simply expressed my objection to being told by the self righteous to > >> >> > follow the science when we were being told different stories every few > >> >> > days. > >> >> > >> >> That's due to the appallingly low level of science journalism! Most > >> >> report National Enquirer-type titbits with no informed discussion. > >> >> > >> >Wrong, Fauci admitted he lied in order to try and prevent > >> >a massive run on N95 masks, he wanted to save them for > >> >the first responders and medical people at the time. > >> > >> Very smart. > >> > >Idiot! You wouldn't be saying that if you had lost a loved one > >to covid that might have not caught it if they had been > >wearing a mask, after being assured by Fauci that they > >didn't need to wear one, back in the early days of the > >pandemic. > > First responders and medical people without a mask would have killed > many more people. > Nice straw-man, people could have made their own masks had they not been lied to about their necessity. > > It's strange how critical you all are of Fauci and how you never > criticise Trump :) > BUTWHATABOUT!? -- Regards David Crossley |
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On 2/14/2021 12:25 PM, US Janet wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:43:50 -0800, Taxed and Spent > > wrote: > >> On 2/14/2021 11:37 AM, US Janet wrote: >>> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:25:09 -0500, Dave Smith >>> > wrote: >>> >>> snip >>>> >>>> I simply expressed my objection to being told by the self righteous to >>>> follow the science when we were being told different stories every few >>>> days. As Taxed and Spent pointed out, they kept telling us we didn't >>>> need masks when there was a shortage of them. >>> >>> that was a short period of time and referred specificlly to N95 masks >>> that were needed for health personnel. >>> >>> Janet US >>> >> >> >> A lie, nonetheless. And I don't think the lie was limited to N95 masks. > > I never considered it a lie that came from Fauci. I followed > different news sources than you. We were already wearing masks made > of cloth. Thousands of women were making cloth masks because masks > were necessary and we didn't want to interfere with the supply. I > can't imagine how you missed all that. Meanwhile rump was not wearing > a mask and it was almost daily news that he refused to wear a mask and > said they were not necessary. Locally there was a lot of bitching and > moaning that states were no mandating mask wearing and that duty fell > to mayors. The white house sponsored news/health reports had rump > standing behind his scientific spokespeople reading 'reports' that we > had been able to read earlier that were direct from the science > groups. Shortly thereafter various science groups were down graded > and members fired because they didn't line up properly behind rump > story. > I don't read social media at all. I read what rump labeled 'fake > news.' The real stuff that can be fact checked. > Janet US > The cottage industry of mask making came after we followed instructions and didn't wear masks, and cane about when people smelled a rat. After that, the lies about masks ended. |
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On 2/14/2021 12:37 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:43:50 -0800, Taxed and Spent > > wrote: > >> On 2/14/2021 11:37 AM, US Janet wrote: >>> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:25:09 -0500, Dave Smith >>> > wrote: >>> >>> snip >>>> >>>> I simply expressed my objection to being told by the self righteous to >>>> follow the science when we were being told different stories every few >>>> days. As Taxed and Spent pointed out, they kept telling us we didn't >>>> need masks when there was a shortage of them. >>> >>> that was a short period of time and referred specificlly to N95 masks >>> that were needed for health personnel. >>> >>> Janet US >>> >> >> >> A lie, nonetheless. And I don't think the lie was limited to N95 masks. > > Oh well, if that was a lie then it's Fauci One, Trump One Thousand. > Funny that I never see you go on about Trump :) > I never liked Trump. I don't like his lies. There. |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 15:48:35 -0500, David Crossley
> wrote: >In article >, says... >> >> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:53:42 -0500, David Crossley >> > wrote: >> >> >In article >, says... >> >> >> >> On 2021-02-14 12:41 p.m., David Crossley wrote: >> >> > Wrong, Fauci admitted he lied in order to try and prevent >> >> > a massive run on N95 masks, he wanted to save them for >> >> > the first responders and medical people at the time. >> >> > -- >> >> > Regards >> >> > David Crossley >> >> > >> >> And you see this as a capital crime? >> >> >> >No Dimmy, I see it for exactly what it is, a life threatening lie. >> >> If you feel that way about Fauci, you must want to send Trump to the >> electric chair. >> >And miss watching you whine like a little bitch about Trump >everyday? Not a chance! You're so biased it's funny. |
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On 2/14/2021 12:30 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "US Janet" wrote in message > ... > > On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 17:26:34 -0000, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > >> >> >> "Taxed and Spent" wrote in message ... >> >> On 2/14/2021 7:29 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Taxed and Spent" wrote in message ... >>> >>> On 2/14/2021 6:13 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Gary" wrote in message ... >>>> >>>> On 2/14/2021 6:05 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>> Yes! I got mine over a week ago, and he got his yesterday! Just the >>>>> first ones though! I get my second on the last week in April. He >>>>> hasn't been told yet. >>>> >>>> Huh? I've heard that you need to get the second one in 2-3 weeks, not >>>> months later. >>>> >>>> === >>>> >>>> That is how it started but it has lengthened now! They say it is >>>> better! >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> They say it is better because the logistics are screwed up (after local >>> and state agencies knowing for over a year this was coming . . .) and >>> this new story fits the logistics. No studies cited. >>> >>> You know, masks were unnecessary. Before they were, after the supply >>> problem eased. >>> >>> ==== >>> >>> Not here. We were always told to wear masks. I think it was Mr >>> Trump >>> that said they weren't necessary >>> >> >> Of course you think that. But you are wrong. It was Dr. Fauci. You >> know, the "gold standards" guy. LOL. >> >> ==== >> >> I have no intention of arguing about this. Was it, or was it not, Trump >> who said masks were not necessary? >> >> > You are correct, O. rump said it again and again and again. > Janet US > > ==== > > Thank you, Janet! I knew I had seen him say it!! > > Trump saying it is not the same as saying "it was trump who said it". Trump wasn't the only one, or the first one, or the one with the medical degree, who said it. Lots of people to point fingers at. |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 12:53:23 -0800, Taxed and Spent
> wrote: >On 2/14/2021 12:39 PM, Bruce wrote: >> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:58:09 -0800, Taxed and Spent >> > wrote: >> >>> On 2/14/2021 11:49 AM, Graham wrote: >>>> On 2021-02-14 12:43 p.m., Taxed and Spent wrote: >>>>> On 2/14/2021 11:37 AM, US Janet wrote: >>>>>> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:25:09 -0500, Dave Smith >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> snip >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I simply expressed my objection to being told by the self righteous to >>>>>>> follow the science when we were being told different stories every few >>>>>>> days. As Taxed and Spent pointed out, theyÂ* kept telling us we didn't >>>>>>> need masks when there was a shortage of them. >>>>>> >>>>>> Â* that was a short period of time and referred specificlly to N95 masks >>>>>> that were needed for health personnel. >>>>>> >>>>>> Janet US >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> A lie, nonetheless. And I don't think the lie was limited to N95 masks. >>>> >>>> How many lies did Trump tell during his sojourn? And you are getting >>>> your knickers in a twist over just this ONE? >>>> >>> >>> I don't like any lies. >> >> So do you hate Trump? >> > >I don't hate anybody. I don't like lies, regardless of who tells them. > And thus I don't like liars. But hate is a different matter. So you REALLY don't like Trump, since he lies all the time. |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 15:54:05 -0500, David Crossley
> wrote: >In article >, says... >> >> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 15:45:36 -0500, David Crossley >> > wrote: >> >> >In article >, says... >> >> >> >> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:41:13 -0500, David Crossley >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >In article >, says... >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2021-02-14 12:25 p.m., Dave Smith wrote: >> >> >> > On 2021-02-14 1:02 p.m., Graham wrote: >> >> >> >> On 2021-02-14 10:29 a.m., S Viemeister wrote: >> >> >> > facts, so the conclusions should not be changing repeatedly. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> FFS!! Things change as you learn more!!! >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Indeed. >> >> >> >>> Somewhere, I have an essay written by my molecular biologist niece on >> >> >> >>> that very subject. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Shhhhh! Too many blocked ears and blinkered eyes around here! >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Who has the blocked ears and blinkered eyes?Â* I do wear a mask in public >> >> >> > spaces. I have never raised a stink about having to do it. I have never >> >> >> > refused.Â* As soon as I go out and am distanced from people it comes off. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I simply expressed my objection to being told by the self righteous to >> >> >> > follow the science when we were being told different stories every few >> >> >> > days. >> >> >> >> >> >> That's due to the appallingly low level of science journalism! Most >> >> >> report National Enquirer-type titbits with no informed discussion. >> >> >> >> >> >Wrong, Fauci admitted he lied in order to try and prevent >> >> >a massive run on N95 masks, he wanted to save them for >> >> >the first responders and medical people at the time. >> >> >> >> Very smart. >> >> >> >Idiot! You wouldn't be saying that if you had lost a loved one >> >to covid that might have not caught it if they had been >> >wearing a mask, after being assured by Fauci that they >> >didn't need to wear one, back in the early days of the >> >pandemic. >> >> First responders and medical people without a mask would have killed >> many more people. >> >Nice straw-man, people could have made their own masks had they >not been lied to about their necessity. Cool, an early Halloween party! >> It's strange how critical you all are of Fauci and how you never >> criticise Trump :) >> >BUTWHATABOUT!? I miss Trump. He was the most entertaining US president evva. |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 12:55:39 -0800, Taxed and Spent
> wrote: >On 2/14/2021 12:37 PM, Bruce wrote: >> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:43:50 -0800, Taxed and Spent >> > wrote: >> >>> On 2/14/2021 11:37 AM, US Janet wrote: >>>> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:25:09 -0500, Dave Smith >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> snip >>>>> >>>>> I simply expressed my objection to being told by the self righteous to >>>>> follow the science when we were being told different stories every few >>>>> days. As Taxed and Spent pointed out, they kept telling us we didn't >>>>> need masks when there was a shortage of them. >>>> >>>> that was a short period of time and referred specificlly to N95 masks >>>> that were needed for health personnel. >>>> >>>> Janet US >>>> >>> >>> >>> A lie, nonetheless. And I don't think the lie was limited to N95 masks. >> >> Oh well, if that was a lie then it's Fauci One, Trump One Thousand. >> Funny that I never see you go on about Trump :) >> > > >I never liked Trump. I don't like his lies. There. > Ok, noted. |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 15:48:35 -0500, David Crossley
> wrote: >In article >, says... >> >> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:53:42 -0500, David Crossley >> > wrote: >> >> >In article >, says... >> >> >> >> On 2021-02-14 12:41 p.m., David Crossley wrote: >> >> > In article >, says... >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2021-02-14 12:25 p.m., Dave Smith wrote: >> >> >>> On 2021-02-14 1:02 p.m., Graham wrote: >> >> >>>> On 2021-02-14 10:29 a.m., S Viemeister wrote: >> >> >>> facts, so the conclusions should not be changing repeatedly. >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> FFS!! Things change as you learn more!!! >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Indeed. >> >> >>>>> Somewhere, I have an essay written by my molecular biologist niece on >> >> >>>>> that very subject. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>> Shhhhh! Too many blocked ears and blinkered eyes around here! >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Who has the blocked ears and blinkered eyes?* I do wear a mask in public >> >> >>> spaces. I have never raised a stink about having to do it. I have never >> >> >>> refused.* As soon as I go out and am distanced from people it comes off. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I simply expressed my objection to being told by the self righteous to >> >> >>> follow the science when we were being told different stories every few >> >> >>> days. >> >> >> >> >> >> That's due to the appallingly low level of science journalism! Most >> >> >> report National Enquirer-type titbits with no informed discussion. >> >> >> >> >> > Wrong, Fauci admitted he lied in order to try and prevent >> >> > a massive run on N95 masks, he wanted to save them for >> >> > the first responders and medical people at the time. >> >> > -- >> >> > Regards >> >> > David Crossley >> >> > >> >> And you see this as a capital crime? >> >> >> >No Dimmy, I see it for exactly what it is, a life threatening lie. >> >> If you feel that way about Fauci, you must want to send Trump to the >> electric chair. >> >And miss watching you whine like a little bitch about Trump >everyday? Not a chance! LOL -- The real Bruce posts with NewsgroupDirect (see headers). |
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Snag wrote:
> >> On 2021-02-13 9:52 a.m., Sheldon Martin wrote: > >> >>> Generally >>> motocycle batteries will last twice as long as car batteries, >>> motorcycles draw no current with the engine off, unless you add an >>> after market anti-theft device. > > *Don't know much about motorcycles do ya Binky . Due to the > vibrations most motorcycle batteries last a shorter time than car > batteries . And modern fuel injected bikes have to keep power on > the computer , plus the big touring bikes with radios use a small > trickle to keep presets in memory . > Popeye rides a 1939 Indian. |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 13:25:31 -0700, US Janet >
wrote: >On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:43:50 -0800, Taxed and Spent > wrote: > >>On 2/14/2021 11:37 AM, US Janet wrote: >>> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:25:09 -0500, Dave Smith >>> > wrote: >>> >>> snip >>>> >>>> I simply expressed my objection to being told by the self righteous to >>>> follow the science when we were being told different stories every few >>>> days. As Taxed and Spent pointed out, they kept telling us we didn't >>>> need masks when there was a shortage of them. >>> >>> that was a short period of time and referred specificlly to N95 masks >>> that were needed for health personnel. >>> >>> Janet US >>> >> >> >>A lie, nonetheless. And I don't think the lie was limited to N95 masks. > >I never considered it a lie that came from Fauci. I followed >different news sources than you. We were already wearing masks made >of cloth. Thousands of women were making cloth masks because masks >were necessary and we didn't want to interfere with the supply. I >can't imagine how you missed all that. Meanwhile rump was not wearing >a mask Nancy Pelosi today shaming Americans, saying "you must wear your mask." after not wearing a mask https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ6mVcbnnCw >and it was almost daily news that he refused to wear a mask and >said they were not necessary. Nancy Pelosi seen without mask inside San Francisco hair salon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeME3ObZ4F8 -- The real Bruce posts with NewsgroupDirect (see headers). |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:50:06 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 2:47:15 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote: >> On 2021-02-14 2:37 p.m., US Janet wrote: >> > On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:25:09 -0500, Dave Smith >> > > wrote: >> > >> > snip >> >> >> >> I simply expressed my objection to being told by the self righteous to >> >> follow the science when we were being told different stories every few >> >> days. As Taxed and Spent pointed out, they kept telling us we didn't >> >> need masks when there was a shortage of them. >> > >> > that was a short period of time and referred specificlly to N95 masks >> > that were needed for health personnel. >> > >> At first they were happy with a mask. > >Something is better than nothing. > >> Then it was suggested that the >> mask have two layers. > >Two somethings are better than one something. > >> Recently they have been pushing for a three layer >> mask. > >With the advent of more-transmissible strains, I can see >why they'd recommend additional protection. Nobody seems to care that, not only is wearing multiple masks idiotic, wearing masks have their own negative health consequences. -- The real Bruce posts with NewsgroupDirect (see headers). |
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On 2/14/2021 3:54 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> > > The cottage industry of mask making came after we followed instructions > and didn't wear masks, and cane about when people smelled a rat.Â* After > that, the lies about masks ended. There was a plan to send masks to everyone but Trump nixed it https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...email-n1240359 Public health experts said sending masks directly to Americans' homes in the early days of the global pandemic would have sent a stronger message encouraging Americans to wear masks. Dr. Monica Gandhi, a professor of medicine at the University of California, San Francisco, said mailing masks to everyone's homes would have meant "we are saying, 'This is so important that we are going to put them in the mail and get them to you.'" |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 20:30:32 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote: > > >"US Janet" wrote in message .. . > >On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 17:26:34 -0000, "Ophelia" > >wrote: > >> >> >>"Taxed and Spent" wrote in message ... >> >>On 2/14/2021 7:29 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Taxed and Spent" wrote in message ... >>> >>> On 2/14/2021 6:13 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Gary" wrote in message ... >>>> >>>> On 2/14/2021 6:05 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>> Yes! I got mine over a week ago, and he got his yesterday! Just the >>>>> first ones though! I get my second on the last week in April. He >>>>> hasn't been told yet. >>>> >>>> Huh? I've heard that you need to get the second one in 2-3 weeks, not >>>> months later. >>>> >>>> === >>>> >>>> That is how it started but it has lengthened now! They say it is >>>> better! >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> They say it is better because the logistics are screwed up (after local >>> and state agencies knowing for over a year this was coming . . .) and >>> this new story fits the logistics. No studies cited. >>> >>> You know, masks were unnecessary. Before they were, after the supply >>> problem eased. >>> >>> ==== >>> >>> Not here. We were always told to wear masks. I think it was Mr >>> Trump >>> that said they weren't necessary >>> >> >>Of course you think that. But you are wrong. It was Dr. Fauci. You >>know, the "gold standards" guy. LOL. >> >>==== >> >> I have no intention of arguing about this. Was it, or was it not, Trump >>who said masks were not necessary? >> >> >You are correct, O. rump said it again and again and again. >Janet US > >==== > > Thank you, Janet! I knew I had seen him say it!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpjmKc2D0Mg > -- The real Bruce posts with NewsgroupDirect (see headers). |
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