Fancy fish sauce and that extinct Roman treasure, silphium
 

I sometimes would wonder, if silphium was so important, why didn't they cultivate it? How could they let it go extinct? This video more or less answers that question - about halfway through.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=UUs...&v=D-QHd4_1geE


Lenona.

Fancy fish sauce and that extinct Roman treasure, silphium
 

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:20:19 AM UTC-5, Lenona wrote:
> I sometimes would wonder, if silphium was so important, why didn't they cultivate it? How could they let it go extinct? This video more or less answers that question - about halfway through.
>
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=UUs...&v=D-QHd4_1geE

No one here seems to appreciate anything other than the food of english-slang speakers.

Fancy fish sauce and that extinct Roman treasure, silphium
 

On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 12:49:00 PM UTC-5, Transition Zone wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:20:19 AM UTC-5, Lenona wrote:
> > I sometimes would wonder, if silphium was so important, why didn't they cultivate it? How could they let it go extinct? This video more or less answers that question - about halfway through.
> >
> > https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=UUs...&v=D-QHd4_1geE
> No one here seems to appreciate anything other than the food of english-slang speakers.

The tofu bibimbap that I had for lunch begs to differ with you.

Cindy Hamilton

Fancy fish sauce and that extinct Roman treasure, silphium
 

On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 7:49:00 AM UTC-10, Transition Zone wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:20:19 AM UTC-5, Lenona wrote:
> > I sometimes would wonder, if silphium was so important, why didn't they cultivate it? How could they let it go extinct? This video more or less answers that question - about halfway through.
> >
> > https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=UUs...&v=D-QHd4_1geE
> No one here seems to appreciate anything other than the food of english-slang speakers.

My guess is that most people here are just plain picky. They dislike more foods than they like. I'm mostly interested in non-American foods. I'm drinking a Pepsi Special right now. It has been recognized by the Japanese government as being useful for people with high blood pressure and heart disease.. It must be magical. Here's a little clip about the relationship between Hawaiians and food.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXyW_EMiiOg

Fancy fish sauce and that extinct Roman treasure, silphium
 

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

> No one here seems to appreciate anything other than the food of
> english-slang speakers.

My guess is that most people here are just plain picky. They dislike more
foods than they like. I'm mostly interested in non-American foods. I'm
drinking a Pepsi Special right now. It has been recognized by the Japanese
government as being useful for people with high blood pressure and heart
disease. It must be magical. Here's a little clip about the relationship
between Hawaiians and food.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXyW_EMiiOg

===

Thanks I enjoyed that:)))

Fancy fish sauce and that extinct Roman treasure, silphium
 

On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 11:39:19 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
> > No one here seems to appreciate anything other than the food of
> > english-slang speakers.
>
> My guess is that most people here are just plain picky. They dislike more
> foods than they like. I'm mostly interested in non-American foods. I'm
> drinking a Pepsi Special right now. It has been recognized by the Japanese
> government as being useful for people with high blood pressure and heart
> disease. It must be magical. Here's a little clip about the relationship
> between Hawaiians and food.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXyW_EMiiOg
> ===
>
> Thanks I enjoyed that:)))
I have always been interested in food and culture. Understanding a culture helps you understand their foods. If that guy was Korean instead of Hawaiian, he'd be using scissors to cut the taro instead of a knife. He wouldn't be cooking on a beach either. :)

Fancy fish sauce and that extinct Roman treasure, silphium
 

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 11:39:19 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
> > No one here seems to appreciate anything other than the food of
> > english-slang speakers.
>
> My guess is that most people here are just plain picky. They dislike more
> foods than they like. I'm mostly interested in non-American foods. I'm
> drinking a Pepsi Special right now. It has been recognized by the Japanese
> government as being useful for people with high blood pressure and heart
> disease. It must be magical. Here's a little clip about the relationship
> between Hawaiians and food.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXyW_EMiiOg
> ===
>
> Thanks I enjoyed that:)))
I have always been interested in food and culture. Understanding a culture
helps you understand their foods. If that guy was Korean instead of
Hawaiian, he'd be using scissors to cut the taro instead of a knife. He
wouldn't be cooking on a beach either. :)

===

Hmmm time for you to show us how they do it:))))))

Fancy fish sauce and that extinct Roman treasure, silphium
 

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 4:14:43 PM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
> On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 11:39:19 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> > > No one here seems to appreciate anything other than the food of
> > > english-slang speakers.
> >
> > My guess is that most people here are just plain picky. They dislike more
> > foods than they like. I'm mostly interested in non-American foods. I'm
> > drinking a Pepsi Special right now. It has been recognized by the Japanese
> > government as being useful for people with high blood pressure and heart
> > disease. It must be magical. Here's a little clip about the relationship
> > between Hawaiians and food.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXyW_EMiiOg
> > ===
> >
> > Thanks I enjoyed that:)))
> I have always been interested in food and culture. Understanding a culture
> helps you understand their foods. If that guy was Korean instead of
> Hawaiian, he'd be using scissors to cut the taro instead of a knife. He
> wouldn't be cooking on a beach either. :)
>
> Hmmm time for you to show us how they do it:))))))

When I was in Hawai'i, it all seemed so mixed together and rice was added to everything.

Fancy fish sauce and that extinct Roman treasure, silphium
 

On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 11:33:01 AM UTC-10, Transition Zone wrote:
> On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 4:14:43 PM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> > On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 11:39:19 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > No one here seems to appreciate anything other than the food of
> > > > english-slang speakers.
> > >
> > > My guess is that most people here are just plain picky. They dislike more
> > > foods than they like. I'm mostly interested in non-American foods. I'm
> > > drinking a Pepsi Special right now. It has been recognized by the Japanese
> > > government as being useful for people with high blood pressure and heart
> > > disease. It must be magical. Here's a little clip about the relationship
> > > between Hawaiians and food.
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXyW_EMiiOg
> > > ===
> > >
> > > Thanks I enjoyed that:)))
> > I have always been interested in food and culture. Understanding a culture
> > helps you understand their foods. If that guy was Korean instead of
> > Hawaiian, he'd be using scissors to cut the taro instead of a knife. He
> > wouldn't be cooking on a beach either. :)
> >
> > Hmmm time for you to show us how they do it:))))))
> When I was in Hawai'i, it all seemed so mixed together and rice was added to everything.
We like to eat regular American food - just like everybody else. :)

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...UhFXxWy1AGcuuq

Fancy fish sauce and that extinct Roman treasure, silphium
 

On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 5:21:12 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 11:33:01 AM UTC-10, Transition Zone wrote:
> > On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 4:14:43 PM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 11:39:19 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > No one here seems to appreciate anything other than the food of
> > > > > english-slang speakers.
> > > >
> > > > My guess is that most people here are just plain picky. They dislike more
> > > > foods than they like. I'm mostly interested in non-American foods. I'm
> > > > drinking a Pepsi Special right now. It has been recognized by the Japanese
> > > > government as being useful for people with high blood pressure and heart
> > > > disease. It must be magical. Here's a little clip about the relationship
> > > > between Hawaiians and food.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXyW_EMiiOg
> > > > ===
> > > >
> > > > Thanks I enjoyed that:)))
> > > I have always been interested in food and culture. Understanding a culture
> > > helps you understand their foods. If that guy was Korean instead of
> > > Hawaiian, he'd be using scissors to cut the taro instead of a knife. He
> > > wouldn't be cooking on a beach either. :)
> > >
> > > Hmmm time for you to show us how they do it:))))))
> > When I was in Hawai'i, it all seemed so mixed together and rice was added to everything.
>
> We like to eat regular American food - just like everybody else. :)

I disagree. Hawai'ians don't like seeing american food separated from east asian food.

Fancy fish sauce and that extinct Roman treasure, silphium
 

On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 11:53:02 AM UTC-10, Transition Zone wrote:
> On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 5:21:12 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 11:33:01 AM UTC-10, Transition Zone wrote:
> > > On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 4:14:43 PM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 11:39:19 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > No one here seems to appreciate anything other than the food of
> > > > > > english-slang speakers.
> > > > >
> > > > > My guess is that most people here are just plain picky. They dislike more
> > > > > foods than they like. I'm mostly interested in non-American foods.. I'm
> > > > > drinking a Pepsi Special right now. It has been recognized by the Japanese
> > > > > government as being useful for people with high blood pressure and heart
> > > > > disease. It must be magical. Here's a little clip about the relationship
> > > > > between Hawaiians and food.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXyW_EMiiOg
> > > > > ===
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks I enjoyed that:)))
> > > > I have always been interested in food and culture. Understanding a culture
> > > > helps you understand their foods. If that guy was Korean instead of
> > > > Hawaiian, he'd be using scissors to cut the taro instead of a knife.. He
> > > > wouldn't be cooking on a beach either. :)
> > > >
> > > > Hmmm time for you to show us how they do it:))))))
> > > When I was in Hawai'i, it all seemed so mixed together and rice was added to everything.
> >
> > We like to eat regular American food - just like everybody else. :)
> I disagree. Hawai'ians don't like seeing american food separated from east asian food.
If you're saying that we're all kapakahi over here, I won't disagree. Here's one of my favorite dishes - Hawaiian roast pork. I've been trying to figure out how the cooks at restaurants and food truck make it for the last 30 years but it never comes out the way they make it. It's served with Hawaiian fried rice. I suppose the cook could have made it a little more presentable. It tasted great though. I was happy.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...MzFHtXIKA6aBZu

Fancy fish sauce and that extinct Roman treasure, silphium
 

On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 5:34:40 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 11:53:02 AM UTC-10, Transition Zone wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 5:21:12 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 11:33:01 AM UTC-10, Transition Zone wrote:
> > > > On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 4:14:43 PM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 11:39:19 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > No one here seems to appreciate anything other than the food of
> > > > > > > english-slang speakers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My guess is that most people here are just plain picky. They dislike more
> > > > > > foods than they like. I'm mostly interested in non-American foods. I'm
> > > > > > drinking a Pepsi Special right now. It has been recognized by the Japanese
> > > > > > government as being useful for people with high blood pressure and heart
> > > > > > disease. It must be magical. Here's a little clip about the relationship
> > > > > > between Hawaiians and food.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXyW_EMiiOg
> > > > > > ===
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks I enjoyed that:)))
> > > > > I have always been interested in food and culture. Understanding a culture
> > > > > helps you understand their foods. If that guy was Korean instead of
> > > > > Hawaiian, he'd be using scissors to cut the taro instead of a knife. He
> > > > > wouldn't be cooking on a beach either. :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmmm time for you to show us how they do it:))))))
> > > > When I was in Hawai'i, it all seemed so mixed together and rice was added to everything.
> > >
> > > We like to eat regular American food - just like everybody else. :)
> > I disagree. Hawai'ians don't like seeing american food separated from east asian food.
> If you're saying that we're all kapakahi over here, I won't disagree. Here's one of my favorite dishes - Hawaiian roast pork. I've been trying to figure out how the cooks at restaurants and food truck make it for the last 30 years but it never comes out the way they make it. It's served with Hawaiian fried rice. I suppose the cook could have made it a little more presentable. It tasted great though. I was happy.

Good question: how many different ways are there to roast pork/beef (sauerbraten)?

Fancy fish sauce and that extinct Roman treasure, silphium
 

On 2020-11-17 4:35 p.m., Transition Zone wrote:
> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 5:34:40 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:

>> If you're saying that we're all kapakahi over here, I won't disagree. Here's one of my favorite dishes - Hawaiian roast pork. I've been trying to figure out how the cooks at restaurants and food truck make it for the last 30 years but it never comes out the way they make it. It's served with Hawaiian fried rice. I suppose the cook could have made it a little more presentable. It tasted great though. I was happy.
>
> Good question: how many different ways are there to roast pork/beef (sauerbraten)?
>

Sauerbraten is more of a braised meat than roasted.

Fancy fish sauce and that extinct Roman treasure, silphium
 

On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 12:54:57 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 12:49:00 PM UTC-5, Transition Zone wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:20:19 AM UTC-5, Lenona wrote:
> > > I sometimes would wonder, if silphium was so important, why didn't they cultivate it? How could they let it go extinct? This video more or less answers that question - about halfway through.
> > >
> > > https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=UUs...&v=D-QHd4_1geE
> > No one here seems to appreciate anything other than the food of english-slang speakers.
> The tofu bibimbap that I had for lunch begs to differ with you.

Is it spelled bibimbap or 비빔밥 ?

Fancy fish sauce and that extinct Roman treasure, silphium
 

On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 11:35:20 AM UTC-10, Transition Zone wrote:
> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 5:34:40 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 11:53:02 AM UTC-10, Transition Zone wrote:
> > > On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 5:21:12 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 11:33:01 AM UTC-10, Transition Zone wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 4:14:43 PM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 11:39:19 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > No one here seems to appreciate anything other than the food of
> > > > > > > > english-slang speakers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My guess is that most people here are just plain picky. They dislike more
> > > > > > > foods than they like. I'm mostly interested in non-American foods. I'm
> > > > > > > drinking a Pepsi Special right now. It has been recognized by the Japanese
> > > > > > > government as being useful for people with high blood pressure and heart
> > > > > > > disease. It must be magical. Here's a little clip about the relationship
> > > > > > > between Hawaiians and food.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXyW_EMiiOg
> > > > > > > ===
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks I enjoyed that:)))
> > > > > > I have always been interested in food and culture. Understanding a culture
> > > > > > helps you understand their foods. If that guy was Korean instead of
> > > > > > Hawaiian, he'd be using scissors to cut the taro instead of a knife. He
> > > > > > wouldn't be cooking on a beach either. :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hmmm time for you to show us how they do it:))))))
> > > > > When I was in Hawai'i, it all seemed so mixed together and rice was added to everything.
> > > >
> > > > We like to eat regular American food - just like everybody else. :)
> > > I disagree. Hawai'ians don't like seeing american food separated from east asian food.
> > If you're saying that we're all kapakahi over here, I won't disagree. Here's one of my favorite dishes - Hawaiian roast pork. I've been trying to figure out how the cooks at restaurants and food truck make it for the last 30 years but it never comes out the way they make it. It's served with Hawaiian fried rice. I suppose the cook could have made it a little more presentable. It tasted great though. I was happy.
> Good question: how many different ways are there to roast pork/beef (sauerbraten)?
I used to eat at a lunch wagon in the late 80's and would grill the cook frequently about his methods. He'd give me the info but my stuff never came out like his stuff. On this rock, we got a lot of ways to cook a piece of meat because we get a choice of Chinese, Hawaiian, American, Filipino, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, or Puerto Rican. There's not much German cooking going on though.

Fancy fish sauce and that extinct Roman treasure, silphium
 

On Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 3:45:03 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 11:35:20 AM UTC-10, Transition Zone wrote:
> > On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 5:34:40 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 11:53:02 AM UTC-10, Transition Zone wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 5:21:12 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 11:33:01 AM UTC-10, Transition Zone wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 4:14:43 PM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 11:39:19 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > > > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > No one here seems to appreciate anything other than the food of
> > > > > > > > > english-slang speakers.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My guess is that most people here are just plain picky. They dislike more
> > > > > > > > foods than they like. I'm mostly interested in non-American foods. I'm
> > > > > > > > drinking a Pepsi Special right now. It has been recognized by the Japanese
> > > > > > > > government as being useful for people with high blood pressure and heart
> > > > > > > > disease. It must be magical. Here's a little clip about the relationship
> > > > > > > > between Hawaiians and food.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXyW_EMiiOg
> > > > > > > > ===
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks I enjoyed that:)))
> > > > > > > I have always been interested in food and culture. Understanding a culture
> > > > > > > helps you understand their foods. If that guy was Korean instead of
> > > > > > > Hawaiian, he'd be using scissors to cut the taro instead of a knife. He
> > > > > > > wouldn't be cooking on a beach either. :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hmmm time for you to show us how they do it:))))))
> > > > > > When I was in Hawai'i, it all seemed so mixed together and rice was added to everything.
> > > > >
> > > > > We like to eat regular American food - just like everybody else. :)
> > > > I disagree. Hawai'ians don't like seeing american food separated from east asian food.
> > > If you're saying that we're all kapakahi over here, I won't disagree. Here's one of my favorite dishes - Hawaiian roast pork. I've been trying to figure out how the cooks at restaurants and food truck make it for the last 30 years but it never comes out the way they make it. It's served with Hawaiian fried rice. I suppose the cook could have made it a little more presentable. It tasted great though. I was happy.
> > Good question: how many different ways are there to roast pork/beef (sauerbraten)?
> I used to eat at a lunch wagon in the late 80's and would grill the cook frequently about his methods. He'd give me the info but my stuff never came out like his stuff. On this rock, we got a lot of ways to cook a piece of meat because we get a choice of Chinese, Hawaiian, American, Filipino, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, or Puerto Rican. There's not much German cooking going on though.

German cooking with its all important french influence takes from several other regions as well. You can basically find a french 'schooled' version of most every kind of traditional german dish.

Fancy fish sauce and that extinct Roman treasure, silphium
 

On 2020-11-18 4:00 p.m., Transition Zone wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 3:45:03 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:

>> I used to eat at a lunch wagon in the late 80's and would grill the
>> cook frequently about his methods. He'd give me the info but my
>> stuff never came out like his stuff. On this rock, we got a lot of
>> ways to cook a piece of meat because we get a choice of Chinese,
>> Hawaiian, American, Filipino, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, or
>> Puerto Rican. There's not much German cooking going on though.
>
> German cooking with its all important french influence takes from
> several other regions as well. You can basically find a french
> 'schooled' version of most every kind of traditional german dish.
>

I am curious to hear about this French influence on French cooking. I
had a lot of German food when I was kid and have been to Germany and
France a few times.Their traditional foods are quite different.

Fancy fish sauce and that extinct Roman treasure, silphium
 

On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 17:05:51 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2020-11-18 4:00 p.m., Transition Zone wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 3:45:03 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>> I used to eat at a lunch wagon in the late 80's and would grill the
>>> cook frequently about his methods. He'd give me the info but my
>>> stuff never came out like his stuff. On this rock, we got a lot of
>>> ways to cook a piece of meat because we get a choice of Chinese,
>>> Hawaiian, American, Filipino, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, or
>>> Puerto Rican. There's not much German cooking going on though.
>>
>> German cooking with its all important french influence takes from
>> several other regions as well. You can basically find a french
>> 'schooled' version of most every kind of traditional german dish.
>>
>
>I am curious to hear about this French influence on French cooking.

Yes, you wouldn't expect that, would you?