I've been living in Prague for the past 5 years. I'm originally from the
midwest US with a 15-year stint in NC.

There's a lot of "American" or "American-ized" foods that I miss that I
can't get here. Don't get me wrong, I've learned to love Czech goulash,
svÃ*Ä�ková, sausages, and rizek (schnitzel). My wife is Ukrainian and I get
my fill of holupsy (cabbage rolls) and kotlets (mini burgers without
bread). However I can't find real fried chicken unless I cook it myself,
smoked BBQ (aka pulled pork) or briskit, black-eyed peas, chicken and
dumplins, and especially not biscuits and gravy or deep dish pizza. I
also can't find "American-Chinese" food like General Tso's chicken which
I crave every now and then.

Even some ingredients are hard to come by. There's no shortage of the
staples: bread, milk, flour, eggs, salt, or sugar, etc. but canned good
for example, Cream of chicken soup or cream of any kind of soup is
unheard of. It's the same with canned broth and a dozen other things
unless I order it from overseas and that's really expensive.

This article isn't to complain, it's just to talk about some of the
differences that I see here that I didn't have in the US. On the plus
side, it's amazing that I can walk out of the subway in almost any part
of the city and buy a hot slice of decent pizza or a box of hot gnocchi
for less than $2 (at least I could before covid). Knowing a little of the
local language, I really can go to restaurants where beer is cheaper than
water.

My question to the group is, does anyone here live away from home and
what food changes do you see any what do you miss? If you have any
questions for me about food here, please let ask.

On Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 7:57:03 AM UTC-4, Jason Evans wrote:
> I've been living in Prague for the past 5 years. I'm originally from the
> midwest US with a 15-year stint in NC.
>
> There's a lot of "American" or "American-ized" foods that I miss that I
> can't get here. Don't get me wrong, I've learned to love Czech goulash,
> svÃ*Ä�ková, sausages, and rizek (schnitzel). My wife is Ukrainian and I get
> my fill of holupsy (cabbage rolls) and kotlets (mini burgers without
> bread). However I can't find real fried chicken unless I cook it myself,
> smoked BBQ (aka pulled pork) or briskit, black-eyed peas, chicken and
> dumplins, and especially not biscuits and gravy or deep dish pizza. I
> also can't find "American-Chinese" food like General Tso's chicken which
> I crave every now and then.
>
> Even some ingredients are hard to come by. There's no shortage of the
> staples: bread, milk, flour, eggs, salt, or sugar, etc. but canned good
> for example, Cream of chicken soup or cream of any kind of soup is
> unheard of. It's the same with canned broth and a dozen other things
> unless I order it from overseas and that's really expensive.
>
> This article isn't to complain, it's just to talk about some of the
> differences that I see here that I didn't have in the US. On the plus
> side, it's amazing that I can walk out of the subway in almost any part
> of the city and buy a hot slice of decent pizza or a box of hot gnocchi
> for less than $2 (at least I could before covid). Knowing a little of the
> local language, I really can go to restaurants where beer is cheaper than
> water.
>
> My question to the group is, does anyone here live away from home and
> what food changes do you see any what do you miss? If you have any
> questions for me about food here, please let ask.
>
> Food while living in Europe

When I was there, I was introduced to Salami slices on pizza. That was the best ever !!

On 2020 Oct 21, , Jason Evans wrote
(in article >):

> My question to the group is, does anyone here live away from home and
> what food changes do you see any what do you miss? If you have any
> questions for me about food here, please let ask.

I hope that people who can answer, do answer. I have no experience and have
never lived elsewhere than my home state.

On Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 1:57:03 AM UTC-10, Jason Evans wrote:
> I've been living in Prague for the past 5 years. I'm originally from the
> midwest US with a 15-year stint in NC.
>
> There's a lot of "American" or "American-ized" foods that I miss that I
> can't get here. Don't get me wrong, I've learned to love Czech goulash,
> svÃ*Ä�ková, sausages, and rizek (schnitzel). My wife is Ukrainian and I get
> my fill of holupsy (cabbage rolls) and kotlets (mini burgers without
> bread). However I can't find real fried chicken unless I cook it myself,
> smoked BBQ (aka pulled pork) or briskit, black-eyed peas, chicken and
> dumplins, and especially not biscuits and gravy or deep dish pizza. I
> also can't find "American-Chinese" food like General Tso's chicken which
> I crave every now and then.
>
> Even some ingredients are hard to come by. There's no shortage of the
> staples: bread, milk, flour, eggs, salt, or sugar, etc. but canned good
> for example, Cream of chicken soup or cream of any kind of soup is
> unheard of. It's the same with canned broth and a dozen other things
> unless I order it from overseas and that's really expensive.
>
> This article isn't to complain, it's just to talk about some of the
> differences that I see here that I didn't have in the US. On the plus
> side, it's amazing that I can walk out of the subway in almost any part
> of the city and buy a hot slice of decent pizza or a box of hot gnocchi
> for less than $2 (at least I could before covid). Knowing a little of the
> local language, I really can go to restaurants where beer is cheaper than
> water.
>
> My question to the group is, does anyone here live away from home and
> what food changes do you see any what do you miss? If you have any
> questions for me about food here, please let ask.

When people from Hawaii visit the mainland, they're at a loss for finding/eating Hawaiian kine food. Their search for this food pretty much starts as soon as the airplane wheels touch the landing strip. If we can't find local style food, Japanese food, would do in a pinch. The first time we were on the mainland, we were delighted to find a place called "Hawaiian Barbecue." As it goes, it wasn't Hawaiian at all - it was pretty much a standard Korean restaurant. My wife liked that since she was raised on Korean food.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilhyv5MmoJU

On 22/10/2020 03:11, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Oct 21, , Jason Evans wrote
> (in article >):
>
>> My question to the group is, does anyone here live away from home and
>> what food changes do you see any what do you miss? If you have any
>> questions for me about food here, please let ask.
>
> I hope that people who can answer, do answer. I have no experience and have
> never lived elsewhere than my home state.
>
>
When I'm in Scotland, I can't find blocks of cream cheese, just the
watery 'spreadable' stuff, which doesn't work well in my baking recipes.

It's also difficult to find nice big sweet onions, like Vidalias. I've
sometimes found them at Lidl, but it's hit and miss.

Good flat egg noodles can be difficult to find, too, but they're easy to
make at home.

I also miss Idaho baking potatoes. There's quite a variety of tasty
potatoes available here, but I've found no good substitute for Idahos.

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:37:59 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 1:57:03 AM UTC-10, Jason Evans wrote:
> > I've been living in Prague for the past 5 years. I'm originally from the
> > midwest US with a 15-year stint in NC.
> >
> > There's a lot of "American" or "American-ized" foods that I miss that I
> > can't get here. Don't get me wrong, I've learned to love Czech goulash,
> > svÃ*Ä�ková, sausages, and rizek (schnitzel). My wife is Ukrainian and I get
> > my fill of holupsy (cabbage rolls) and kotlets (mini burgers without
> > bread). However I can't find real fried chicken unless I cook it myself,
> > smoked BBQ (aka pulled pork) or briskit, black-eyed peas, chicken and
> > dumplins, and especially not biscuits and gravy or deep dish pizza. I
> > also can't find "American-Chinese" food like General Tso's chicken which
> > I crave every now and then.
> >
> > Even some ingredients are hard to come by. There's no shortage of the
> > staples: bread, milk, flour, eggs, salt, or sugar, etc. but canned good
> > for example, Cream of chicken soup or cream of any kind of soup is
> > unheard of. It's the same with canned broth and a dozen other things
> > unless I order it from overseas and that's really expensive.
> >
> > This article isn't to complain, it's just to talk about some of the
> > differences that I see here that I didn't have in the US. On the plus
> > side, it's amazing that I can walk out of the subway in almost any part
> > of the city and buy a hot slice of decent pizza or a box of hot gnocchi
> > for less than $2 (at least I could before covid). Knowing a little of the
> > local language, I really can go to restaurants where beer is cheaper than
> > water.
> >
> > My question to the group is, does anyone here live away from home and
> > what food changes do you see any what do you miss? If you have any
> > questions for me about food here, please let ask.
> When people from Hawaii visit the mainland, they're at a loss for finding/eating Hawaiian kine food. Their search for this food pretty much starts as soon as the airplane wheels touch the landing strip. If we can't find local style food, Japanese food, would do in a pinch. The first time we were on the mainland, we were delighted to find a place called "Hawaiian Barbecue.." As it goes, it wasn't Hawaiian at all - it was pretty much a standard Korean restaurant. My wife liked that since she was raised on Korean food.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilhyv5MmoJU

Why on earth do people travel and eat the same stuff they can get at home? It's different if
you're living in a foreign place (like the OP). But it seems like a wasted opportunity to
visit a place and not take advantage of regional specialities. You may as well just
stay at home.

Cindy Hamilton

dsi1 wrote:
>
> When people from Hawaii visit the mainland, they're at a loss
> for finding/eating Hawaiian kine food. Their search for this
> food pretty much starts as soon as the airplane wheels touch
> the landing strip. If we can't find local style food,
> Japanese food, would do in a pinch.

I would think that when visiting far away places, you should
go for the local cuisine, not your normal food.

On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 03:21:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:37:59 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:

>> When people from Hawaii visit the mainland, they're at a loss for finding/eating Hawaiian kine food. Their search for this food pretty much starts as soon as the airplane wheels touch the landing strip. If we can't find local style food, Japanese food, would do in a pinch. The first time we were on the mainland, we were delighted to find a place called "Hawaiian Barbecue." As it goes, it wasn't Hawaiian at all - it was pretty much a standard Korean restaurant. My wife liked that since she was raised on Korean food.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilhyv5MmoJU
>
>Why on earth do people travel and eat the same stuff they can get at home? It's different if
>you're living in a foreign place (like the OP). But it seems like a wasted opportunity to
>visit a place and not take advantage of regional specialities. You may as well just
>stay at home.

An Australian woman once said to me: "We went on a holiday to
Singapore. They eat all kinds of weird things there, but at least they
also had a McDonalds".

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:22:04 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:37:59 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 1:57:03 AM UTC-10, Jason Evans wrote:
> > > I've been living in Prague for the past 5 years. I'm originally from the
> > > midwest US with a 15-year stint in NC.
> > >
> > > There's a lot of "American" or "American-ized" foods that I miss that I
> > > can't get here. Don't get me wrong, I've learned to love Czech goulash,
> > > svÃ*Ä�ková, sausages, and rizek (schnitzel). My wife is Ukrainian and I get
> > > my fill of holupsy (cabbage rolls) and kotlets (mini burgers without
> > > bread). However I can't find real fried chicken unless I cook it myself,
> > > smoked BBQ (aka pulled pork) or briskit, black-eyed peas, chicken and
> > > dumplins, and especially not biscuits and gravy or deep dish pizza. I
> > > also can't find "American-Chinese" food like General Tso's chicken which
> > > I crave every now and then.
> > >
> > > Even some ingredients are hard to come by. There's no shortage of the
> > > staples: bread, milk, flour, eggs, salt, or sugar, etc. but canned good
> > > for example, Cream of chicken soup or cream of any kind of soup is
> > > unheard of. It's the same with canned broth and a dozen other things
> > > unless I order it from overseas and that's really expensive.
> > >
> > > This article isn't to complain, it's just to talk about some of the
> > > differences that I see here that I didn't have in the US. On the plus
> > > side, it's amazing that I can walk out of the subway in almost any part
> > > of the city and buy a hot slice of decent pizza or a box of hot gnocchi
> > > for less than $2 (at least I could before covid). Knowing a little of the
> > > local language, I really can go to restaurants where beer is cheaper than
> > > water.
> > >
> > > My question to the group is, does anyone here live away from home and
> > > what food changes do you see any what do you miss? If you have any
> > > questions for me about food here, please let ask.
> > When people from Hawaii visit the mainland, they're at a loss for finding/eating Hawaiian kine food. Their search for this food pretty much starts as soon as the airplane wheels touch the landing strip. If we can't find local style food, Japanese food, would do in a pinch. The first time we were on the mainland, we were delighted to find a place called "Hawaiian Barbecue." As it goes, it wasn't Hawaiian at all - it was pretty much a standard Korean restaurant. My wife liked that since she was raised on Korean food.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilhyv5MmoJU
>
> Why on earth do people travel and eat the same stuff they can get at home? It's different if
> you're living in a foreign place (like the OP). But it seems like a wasted opportunity to
> visit a place and not take advantage of regional specialities. You may as well just
> stay at home.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Regional specialties are fine with me. My favorite place to eat on the mainland was the IHOP or chain restaurants. They serve popular American cuisine.. I've gone to Denny's in our little town because they serve stuff that's different from the local food. Stuff like biscuits and gravy and chicken fried steak and grits. I'd like to try some Southern regional foods without actually going down South. East coast specialties would be great but I've yet to reach that side of the country.

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:23:26 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > When people from Hawaii visit the mainland, they're at a loss
> > for finding/eating Hawaiian kine food. Their search for this
> > food pretty much starts as soon as the airplane wheels touch
> > the landing strip. If we can't find local style food,
> > Japanese food, would do in a pinch.
>
> I would think that when visiting far away places, you should
> go for the local cuisine, not your normal food.

When we were in the UK, we spent some time looking for fish and chips. It was okay. The next time we're there, I'll be sure to hunt down some pasties and try to find haggis. Hopefully, it'll haggis in a safe environment like a hotel.

Bruce wrote:
> An Australian woman once said to me: "We went on a holiday to
> Singapore. They eat all kinds of weird things there, but at least they
> also had a McDonalds".

lol If I went to Singapore, I would try their cuisine and
look forward to it. Good to know there's always a McD
backup though. heh eheh

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 6:50:57 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:22:04 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:37:59 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 1:57:03 AM UTC-10, Jason Evans wrote:
> > > > I've been living in Prague for the past 5 years. I'm originally from the
> > > > midwest US with a 15-year stint in NC.
> > > >
> > > > There's a lot of "American" or "American-ized" foods that I miss that I
> > > > can't get here. Don't get me wrong, I've learned to love Czech goulash,
> > > > svÃ*Ä�ková, sausages, and rizek (schnitzel). My wife is Ukrainian and I get
> > > > my fill of holupsy (cabbage rolls) and kotlets (mini burgers without
> > > > bread). However I can't find real fried chicken unless I cook it myself,
> > > > smoked BBQ (aka pulled pork) or briskit, black-eyed peas, chicken and
> > > > dumplins, and especially not biscuits and gravy or deep dish pizza. I
> > > > also can't find "American-Chinese" food like General Tso's chicken which
> > > > I crave every now and then.
> > > >
> > > > Even some ingredients are hard to come by. There's no shortage of the
> > > > staples: bread, milk, flour, eggs, salt, or sugar, etc. but canned good
> > > > for example, Cream of chicken soup or cream of any kind of soup is
> > > > unheard of. It's the same with canned broth and a dozen other things
> > > > unless I order it from overseas and that's really expensive.
> > > >
> > > > This article isn't to complain, it's just to talk about some of the
> > > > differences that I see here that I didn't have in the US. On the plus
> > > > side, it's amazing that I can walk out of the subway in almost any part
> > > > of the city and buy a hot slice of decent pizza or a box of hot gnocchi
> > > > for less than $2 (at least I could before covid). Knowing a little of the
> > > > local language, I really can go to restaurants where beer is cheaper than
> > > > water.
> > > >
> > > > My question to the group is, does anyone here live away from home and
> > > > what food changes do you see any what do you miss? If you have any
> > > > questions for me about food here, please let ask.
> > > When people from Hawaii visit the mainland, they're at a loss for finding/eating Hawaiian kine food. Their search for this food pretty much starts as soon as the airplane wheels touch the landing strip. If we can't find local style food, Japanese food, would do in a pinch. The first time we were on the mainland, we were delighted to find a place called "Hawaiian Barbecue." As it goes, it wasn't Hawaiian at all - it was pretty much a standard Korean restaurant. My wife liked that since she was raised on Korean food..
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilhyv5MmoJU
> >
> > Why on earth do people travel and eat the same stuff they can get at home? It's different if
> > you're living in a foreign place (like the OP). But it seems like a wasted opportunity to
> > visit a place and not take advantage of regional specialities. You may as well just
> > stay at home.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> Regional specialties are fine with me. My favorite place to eat on the mainland was the IHOP or chain restaurants. They serve popular American cuisine. I've gone to Denny's in our little town because they serve stuff that's different from the local food. Stuff like biscuits and gravy and chicken fried steak and grits. I'd like to try some Southern regional foods without actually going down South. East coast specialties would be great but I've yet to reach that side of the country.

Oh. My. God.

Nothing at chain restaurants remotely resembles the real, regional cooking of the U.S. It's homogenized
slop that comes right from the food service supplier.

It may be "popular", but it's like a Waikiki luau compared with the real thing.

Cindy Hamilton

On 10/22/2020 9:02 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 6:50:57 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:22:04 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:37:59 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 1:57:03 AM UTC-10, Jason Evans wrote:
>>>>> I've been living in Prague for the past 5 years. I'm originally from the
>>>>> midwest US with a 15-year stint in NC.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a lot of "American" or "American-ized" foods that I miss that I
>>>>> can't get here. Don't get me wrong, I've learned to love Czech goulash,
>>>>> svÃ*Ä�ková, sausages, and rizek (schnitzel). My wife is Ukrainian and I get
>>>>> my fill of holupsy (cabbage rolls) and kotlets (mini burgers without
>>>>> bread). However I can't find real fried chicken unless I cook it myself,
>>>>> smoked BBQ (aka pulled pork) or briskit, black-eyed peas, chicken and
>>>>> dumplins, and especially not biscuits and gravy or deep dish pizza. I
>>>>> also can't find "American-Chinese" food like General Tso's chicken which
>>>>> I crave every now and then.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even some ingredients are hard to come by. There's no shortage of the
>>>>> staples: bread, milk, flour, eggs, salt, or sugar, etc. but canned good
>>>>> for example, Cream of chicken soup or cream of any kind of soup is
>>>>> unheard of. It's the same with canned broth and a dozen other things
>>>>> unless I order it from overseas and that's really expensive.
>>>>>
>>>>> This article isn't to complain, it's just to talk about some of the
>>>>> differences that I see here that I didn't have in the US. On the plus
>>>>> side, it's amazing that I can walk out of the subway in almost any part
>>>>> of the city and buy a hot slice of decent pizza or a box of hot gnocchi
>>>>> for less than $2 (at least I could before covid). Knowing a little of the
>>>>> local language, I really can go to restaurants where beer is cheaper than
>>>>> water.
>>>>>
>>>>> My question to the group is, does anyone here live away from home and
>>>>> what food changes do you see any what do you miss? If you have any
>>>>> questions for me about food here, please let ask.
>>>> When people from Hawaii visit the mainland, they're at a loss for finding/eating Hawaiian kine food. Their search for this food pretty much starts as soon as the airplane wheels touch the landing strip. If we can't find local style food, Japanese food, would do in a pinch. The first time we were on the mainland, we were delighted to find a place called "Hawaiian Barbecue." As it goes, it wasn't Hawaiian at all - it was pretty much a standard Korean restaurant. My wife liked that since she was raised on Korean food.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilhyv5MmoJU
>>>
>>> Why on earth do people travel and eat the same stuff they can get at home? It's different if
>>> you're living in a foreign place (like the OP). But it seems like a wasted opportunity to
>>> visit a place and not take advantage of regional specialities. You may as well just
>>> stay at home.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>> Regional specialties are fine with me. My favorite place to eat on the mainland was the IHOP or chain restaurants. They serve popular American cuisine. I've gone to Denny's in our little town because they serve stuff that's different from the local food. Stuff like biscuits and gravy and chicken fried steak and grits. I'd like to try some Southern regional foods without actually going down South. East coast specialties would be great but I've yet to reach that side of the country.
>
> Oh. My. God.
>
> Nothing at chain restaurants remotely resembles the real, regional cooking of the U.S. It's homogenized
> slop that comes right from the food service supplier.
>
> It may be "popular", but it's like a Waikiki luau compared with the real thing.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Yeah, likely Sysco. No wonder he has such a poor opinion of food on the
mainland.

Jill

On 2020-10-22 3:59 a.m., S Viemeister wrote:

> When I'm in Scotland, I can't find blocks of cream cheese, just the
> watery 'spreadable' stuff, which doesn't work well in my baking recipes.

Maybe you need to find some eastern European recipes using cream cheese
because they use that soft stuff rather than the American style
Philadelphia cream cheese, which has to be warmed a bit to be able to
work with it.

>

On 22/10/2020 11:56, dsi1 wrote:

> When we were in the UK, we spent some time looking for fish and chips. It was okay. The next time we're there, I'll be sure to hunt down some pasties and try to find haggis. Hopefully, it'll haggis in a safe environment like a hotel.
>
Haggis used to be readily available year-round - I could even get it at
the Woolworth cafeteria. If you want to be sure of finding some, visit
Scotland in January for Burns Night, or late November for St Andrew's Day.

On 2020-10-22 7:06 a.m., Gary wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
>> An Australian woman once said to me: "We went on a holiday to
>> Singapore. They eat all kinds of weird things there, but at least they
>> also had a McDonalds".
>
> lol If I went to Singapore, I would try their cuisine and
> look forward to it. Good to know there's always a McD
> backup though. heh eheh
>

I would rather take my changes with the strangest of local dishes than
to eat at McDonalds.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2020-10-22 7:06 a.m., Gary wrote:
> > Bruce wrote:
> >> An Australian woman once said to me: "We went on a holiday to
> >> Singapore. They eat all kinds of weird things there, but at least they
> >> also had a McDonalds".
> >
> > lol If I went to Singapore, I would try their cuisine and
> > look forward to it. Good to know there's always a McD
> > backup though. heh eheh
> >
>
> I would rather take my changes with the strangest of local dishes than
> to eat at McDonalds.

Yes, you've made that clear.

Funny old "Drew Carey Show" ep. He was in China and lost his
wallet, ID's and money. He didn't know where to turn then he
spotted a familiar McDonalds in the distance.

So he went in and asked for a free Big Mac. The cashier called
the manager out to deal with him. He explained and asked if he
could get a free Big Mac.

The manager looked back at the menu and said, "Sorry, we
don't seem to have any free Big Macs on the menu today."
It was funny. You had to see it.

Drew Carey was a very funny comedian and I was sad when he
sold out to host "The Price Is Right" show. Can't blame him
though as that's a favorite and a steady high paycheck.

No more comedy from him since though. Guess that was a
condition for his steady new job.

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 3:02:11 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 6:50:57 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:22:04 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:37:59 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 1:57:03 AM UTC-10, Jason Evans wrote:
> > > > > I've been living in Prague for the past 5 years. I'm originally from the
> > > > > midwest US with a 15-year stint in NC.
> > > > >
> > > > > There's a lot of "American" or "American-ized" foods that I miss that I
> > > > > can't get here. Don't get me wrong, I've learned to love Czech goulash,
> > > > > svÃ*Ä�ková, sausages, and rizek (schnitzel). My wife is Ukrainian and I get
> > > > > my fill of holupsy (cabbage rolls) and kotlets (mini burgers without
> > > > > bread). However I can't find real fried chicken unless I cook it myself,
> > > > > smoked BBQ (aka pulled pork) or briskit, black-eyed peas, chicken and
> > > > > dumplins, and especially not biscuits and gravy or deep dish pizza. I
> > > > > also can't find "American-Chinese" food like General Tso's chicken which
> > > > > I crave every now and then.
> > > > >
> > > > > Even some ingredients are hard to come by. There's no shortage of the
> > > > > staples: bread, milk, flour, eggs, salt, or sugar, etc. but canned good
> > > > > for example, Cream of chicken soup or cream of any kind of soup is
> > > > > unheard of. It's the same with canned broth and a dozen other things
> > > > > unless I order it from overseas and that's really expensive.
> > > > >
> > > > > This article isn't to complain, it's just to talk about some of the
> > > > > differences that I see here that I didn't have in the US. On the plus
> > > > > side, it's amazing that I can walk out of the subway in almost any part
> > > > > of the city and buy a hot slice of decent pizza or a box of hot gnocchi
> > > > > for less than $2 (at least I could before covid). Knowing a little of the
> > > > > local language, I really can go to restaurants where beer is cheaper than
> > > > > water.
> > > > >
> > > > > My question to the group is, does anyone here live away from home and
> > > > > what food changes do you see any what do you miss? If you have any
> > > > > questions for me about food here, please let ask.
> > > > When people from Hawaii visit the mainland, they're at a loss for finding/eating Hawaiian kine food. Their search for this food pretty much starts as soon as the airplane wheels touch the landing strip. If we can't find local style food, Japanese food, would do in a pinch. The first time we were on the mainland, we were delighted to find a place called "Hawaiian Barbecue." As it goes, it wasn't Hawaiian at all - it was pretty much a standard Korean restaurant. My wife liked that since she was raised on Korean food.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilhyv5MmoJU
> > >
> > > Why on earth do people travel and eat the same stuff they can get at home? It's different if
> > > you're living in a foreign place (like the OP). But it seems like a wasted opportunity to
> > > visit a place and not take advantage of regional specialities. You may as well just
> > > stay at home.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> > Regional specialties are fine with me. My favorite place to eat on the mainland was the IHOP or chain restaurants. They serve popular American cuisine. I've gone to Denny's in our little town because they serve stuff that's different from the local food. Stuff like biscuits and gravy and chicken fried steak and grits. I'd like to try some Southern regional foods without actually going down South. East coast specialties would be great but I've yet to reach that side of the country.
>
> Oh. My. God.
>
> Nothing at chain restaurants remotely resembles the real, regional cooking of the U.S. It's homogenized
> slop that comes right from the food service supplier.
>
> It may be "popular", but it's like a Waikiki luau compared with the real thing.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

A chain restaurant food item could also be an archetype example of a dish. The distillation of the essence of a regional food item. Perhaps not the best example, but a very recognizable one.

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 4:18:18 AM UTC-10, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 22/10/2020 11:56, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > When we were in the UK, we spent some time looking for fish and chips. It was okay. The next time we're there, I'll be sure to hunt down some pasties and try to find haggis. Hopefully, it'll haggis in a safe environment like a hotel.
> >
> Haggis used to be readily available year-round - I could even get it at
> the Woolworth cafeteria. If you want to be sure of finding some, visit
> Scotland in January for Burns Night, or late November for St Andrew's Day.

Sounds like you're saying that haggis might be difficult to find in Scotland these days. I can't say when we'd be there.

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 4:55:27 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > On 2020-10-22 7:06 a.m., Gary wrote:
> > > Bruce wrote:
> > >> An Australian woman once said to me: "We went on a holiday to
> > >> Singapore. They eat all kinds of weird things there, but at least they
> > >> also had a McDonalds".
> > >
> > > lol If I went to Singapore, I would try their cuisine and
> > > look forward to it. Good to know there's always a McD
> > > backup though. heh eheh
> > >
> >
> > I would rather take my changes with the strangest of local dishes than
> > to eat at McDonalds.
>
> Yes, you've made that clear.
>
> Funny old "Drew Carey Show" ep. He was in China and lost his
> wallet, ID's and money. He didn't know where to turn then he
> spotted a familiar McDonalds in the distance.
>
> So he went in and asked for a free Big Mac. The cashier called
> the manager out to deal with him. He explained and asked if he
> could get a free Big Mac.
>
> The manager looked back at the menu and said, "Sorry, we
> don't seem to have any free Big Macs on the menu today."
> It was funny. You had to see it.
>
> Drew Carey was a very funny comedian and I was sad when he
> sold out to host "The Price Is Right" show. Can't blame him
> though as that's a favorite and a steady high paycheck.
>
> No more comedy from him since though. Guess that was a
> condition for his steady new job.

That reminds of that bit in "Back to the Future."

"Lou: You gonna order something, kid?

Marty McFly: Ah, yeah. Give me- Give me a Tab.

Lou: Tab? I can't give you a tab unless you order something.

Marty McFly: Right. Give me a Pepsi Free.

Lou: You want a Pepsi, pal, you're gonna pay for it."

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 11:48:51 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 3:02:11 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 6:50:57 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:22:04 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:37:59 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 1:57:03 AM UTC-10, Jason Evans wrote:
> > > > > > I've been living in Prague for the past 5 years. I'm originally from the
> > > > > > midwest US with a 15-year stint in NC.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There's a lot of "American" or "American-ized" foods that I miss that I
> > > > > > can't get here. Don't get me wrong, I've learned to love Czech goulash,
> > > > > > svÃ*Ä�ková, sausages, and rizek (schnitzel). My wife is Ukrainian and I get
> > > > > > my fill of holupsy (cabbage rolls) and kotlets (mini burgers without
> > > > > > bread). However I can't find real fried chicken unless I cook it myself,
> > > > > > smoked BBQ (aka pulled pork) or briskit, black-eyed peas, chicken and
> > > > > > dumplins, and especially not biscuits and gravy or deep dish pizza. I
> > > > > > also can't find "American-Chinese" food like General Tso's chicken which
> > > > > > I crave every now and then.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Even some ingredients are hard to come by. There's no shortage of the
> > > > > > staples: bread, milk, flour, eggs, salt, or sugar, etc. but canned good
> > > > > > for example, Cream of chicken soup or cream of any kind of soup is
> > > > > > unheard of. It's the same with canned broth and a dozen other things
> > > > > > unless I order it from overseas and that's really expensive.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This article isn't to complain, it's just to talk about some of the
> > > > > > differences that I see here that I didn't have in the US. On the plus
> > > > > > side, it's amazing that I can walk out of the subway in almost any part
> > > > > > of the city and buy a hot slice of decent pizza or a box of hot gnocchi
> > > > > > for less than $2 (at least I could before covid). Knowing a little of the
> > > > > > local language, I really can go to restaurants where beer is cheaper than
> > > > > > water.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My question to the group is, does anyone here live away from home and
> > > > > > what food changes do you see any what do you miss? If you have any
> > > > > > questions for me about food here, please let ask.
> > > > > When people from Hawaii visit the mainland, they're at a loss for finding/eating Hawaiian kine food. Their search for this food pretty much starts as soon as the airplane wheels touch the landing strip. If we can't find local style food, Japanese food, would do in a pinch. The first time we were on the mainland, we were delighted to find a place called "Hawaiian Barbecue." As it goes, it wasn't Hawaiian at all - it was pretty much a standard Korean restaurant. My wife liked that since she was raised on Korean food.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilhyv5MmoJU
> > > >
> > > > Why on earth do people travel and eat the same stuff they can get at home? It's different if
> > > > you're living in a foreign place (like the OP). But it seems like a wasted opportunity to
> > > > visit a place and not take advantage of regional specialities. You may as well just
> > > > stay at home.
> > > >
> > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > Regional specialties are fine with me. My favorite place to eat on the mainland was the IHOP or chain restaurants. They serve popular American cuisine. I've gone to Denny's in our little town because they serve stuff that's different from the local food. Stuff like biscuits and gravy and chicken fried steak and grits. I'd like to try some Southern regional foods without actually going down South. East coast specialties would be great but I've yet to reach that side of the country.
> >
> > Oh. My. God.
> >
> > Nothing at chain restaurants remotely resembles the real, regional cooking of the U.S. It's homogenized
> > slop that comes right from the food service supplier.
> >
> > It may be "popular", but it's like a Waikiki luau compared with the real thing.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> A chain restaurant food item could also be an archetype example of a dish.. The distillation of the essence of a
> regional food item. Perhaps not the best example, but a very recognizable one.

Sure. If you distill all the goodness out of it, leaving only the bland, least-common denominator.

I'm not sure it's worth it to keep pressing my point. I suspect you're too indiscriminate an eater
to appreciate the difference between, say, the biscuits made at a local eatery by someone who's
been making them all her life and the biscuits at McDonald's.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 6:46:07 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 11:48:51 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 3:02:11 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 6:50:57 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:22:04 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:37:59 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 1:57:03 AM UTC-10, Jason Evans wrote:
> > > > > > > I've been living in Prague for the past 5 years. I'm originally from the
> > > > > > > midwest US with a 15-year stint in NC.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There's a lot of "American" or "American-ized" foods that I miss that I
> > > > > > > can't get here. Don't get me wrong, I've learned to love Czech goulash,
> > > > > > > svÃ*Ä�ková, sausages, and rizek (schnitzel). My wife is Ukrainian and I get
> > > > > > > my fill of holupsy (cabbage rolls) and kotlets (mini burgers without
> > > > > > > bread). However I can't find real fried chicken unless I cook it myself,
> > > > > > > smoked BBQ (aka pulled pork) or briskit, black-eyed peas, chicken and
> > > > > > > dumplins, and especially not biscuits and gravy or deep dish pizza. I
> > > > > > > also can't find "American-Chinese" food like General Tso's chicken which
> > > > > > > I crave every now and then.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Even some ingredients are hard to come by. There's no shortage of the
> > > > > > > staples: bread, milk, flour, eggs, salt, or sugar, etc. but canned good
> > > > > > > for example, Cream of chicken soup or cream of any kind of soup is
> > > > > > > unheard of. It's the same with canned broth and a dozen other things
> > > > > > > unless I order it from overseas and that's really expensive.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This article isn't to complain, it's just to talk about some of the
> > > > > > > differences that I see here that I didn't have in the US. On the plus
> > > > > > > side, it's amazing that I can walk out of the subway in almost any part
> > > > > > > of the city and buy a hot slice of decent pizza or a box of hot gnocchi
> > > > > > > for less than $2 (at least I could before covid). Knowing a little of the
> > > > > > > local language, I really can go to restaurants where beer is cheaper than
> > > > > > > water.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My question to the group is, does anyone here live away from home and
> > > > > > > what food changes do you see any what do you miss? If you have any
> > > > > > > questions for me about food here, please let ask.
> > > > > > When people from Hawaii visit the mainland, they're at a loss for finding/eating Hawaiian kine food. Their search for this food pretty much starts as soon as the airplane wheels touch the landing strip. If we can't find local style food, Japanese food, would do in a pinch. The first time we were on the mainland, we were delighted to find a place called "Hawaiian Barbecue." As it goes, it wasn't Hawaiian at all - it was pretty much a standard Korean restaurant. My wife liked that since she was raised on Korean food.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilhyv5MmoJU
> > > > >
> > > > > Why on earth do people travel and eat the same stuff they can get at home? It's different if
> > > > > you're living in a foreign place (like the OP). But it seems like a wasted opportunity to
> > > > > visit a place and not take advantage of regional specialities. You may as well just
> > > > > stay at home.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > > Regional specialties are fine with me. My favorite place to eat on the mainland was the IHOP or chain restaurants. They serve popular American cuisine. I've gone to Denny's in our little town because they serve stuff that's different from the local food. Stuff like biscuits and gravy and chicken fried steak and grits. I'd like to try some Southern regional foods without actually going down South. East coast specialties would be great but I've yet to reach that side of the country.
> > >
> > > Oh. My. God.
> > >
> > > Nothing at chain restaurants remotely resembles the real, regional cooking of the U.S. It's homogenized
> > > slop that comes right from the food service supplier.
> > >
> > > It may be "popular", but it's like a Waikiki luau compared with the real thing.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> > A chain restaurant food item could also be an archetype example of a dish. The distillation of the essence of a
> > regional food item. Perhaps not the best example, but a very recognizable one.
>
> Sure. If you distill all the goodness out of it, leaving only the bland, least-common denominator.
>
> I'm not sure it's worth it to keep pressing my point. I suspect you're too indiscriminate an eater
> to appreciate the difference between, say, the biscuits made at a local eatery by someone who's
> been making them all her life and the biscuits at McDonald's.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

If you believe that you're of a higher class than I because you're so picky, I believe that you're wrong. Mostly, it means that you're a picky eater - big deal!

Most regional specialties are going to be simple fare. If it gets duded-up to suit your higher class tastes, it becomes something else. I don't mind going to a local diner to eat but if you think that the food will automatically be better, you're living in a dream world.

As far as biscuits goes, I know how to make biscuits. It's not a big deal. A biscuit is a biscuit is a biscuit. I don't care if it's made by Loulou in the back. All I care about is that it's not gummy or pasty and not funky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKVI...l=IvyLevanVEVO

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 2:07:51 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 6:46:07 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 11:48:51 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 3:02:11 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 6:50:57 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:22:04 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:37:59 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 1:57:03 AM UTC-10, Jason Evans wrote:
> > > > > > > > I've been living in Prague for the past 5 years. I'm originally from the
> > > > > > > > midwest US with a 15-year stint in NC.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There's a lot of "American" or "American-ized" foods that I miss that I
> > > > > > > > can't get here. Don't get me wrong, I've learned to love Czech goulash,
> > > > > > > > svÃ*Ä�ková, sausages, and rizek (schnitzel). My wife is Ukrainian and I get
> > > > > > > > my fill of holupsy (cabbage rolls) and kotlets (mini burgers without
> > > > > > > > bread). However I can't find real fried chicken unless I cook it myself,
> > > > > > > > smoked BBQ (aka pulled pork) or briskit, black-eyed peas, chicken and
> > > > > > > > dumplins, and especially not biscuits and gravy or deep dish pizza. I
> > > > > > > > also can't find "American-Chinese" food like General Tso's chicken which
> > > > > > > > I crave every now and then.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Even some ingredients are hard to come by. There's no shortage of the
> > > > > > > > staples: bread, milk, flour, eggs, salt, or sugar, etc. but canned good
> > > > > > > > for example, Cream of chicken soup or cream of any kind of soup is
> > > > > > > > unheard of. It's the same with canned broth and a dozen other things
> > > > > > > > unless I order it from overseas and that's really expensive..
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This article isn't to complain, it's just to talk about some of the
> > > > > > > > differences that I see here that I didn't have in the US. On the plus
> > > > > > > > side, it's amazing that I can walk out of the subway in almost any part
> > > > > > > > of the city and buy a hot slice of decent pizza or a box of hot gnocchi
> > > > > > > > for less than $2 (at least I could before covid). Knowing a little of the
> > > > > > > > local language, I really can go to restaurants where beer is cheaper than
> > > > > > > > water.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My question to the group is, does anyone here live away from home and
> > > > > > > > what food changes do you see any what do you miss? If you have any
> > > > > > > > questions for me about food here, please let ask.
> > > > > > > When people from Hawaii visit the mainland, they're at a loss for finding/eating Hawaiian kine food. Their search for this food pretty much starts as soon as the airplane wheels touch the landing strip. If we can't find local style food, Japanese food, would do in a pinch. The first time we were on the mainland, we were delighted to find a place called "Hawaiian Barbecue." As it goes, it wasn't Hawaiian at all - it was pretty much a standard Korean restaurant. My wife liked that since she was raised on Korean food.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilhyv5MmoJU
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why on earth do people travel and eat the same stuff they can get at home? It's different if
> > > > > > you're living in a foreign place (like the OP). But it seems like a wasted opportunity to
> > > > > > visit a place and not take advantage of regional specialities. You may as well just
> > > > > > stay at home.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > Regional specialties are fine with me. My favorite place to eat on the mainland was the IHOP or chain restaurants. They serve popular American cuisine. I've gone to Denny's in our little town because they serve stuff that's different from the local food. Stuff like biscuits and gravy and chicken fried steak and grits. I'd like to try some Southern regional foods without actually going down South. East coast specialties would be great but I've yet to reach that side of the country.
> > > >
> > > > Oh. My. God.
> > > >
> > > > Nothing at chain restaurants remotely resembles the real, regional cooking of the U.S. It's homogenized
> > > > slop that comes right from the food service supplier.
> > > >
> > > > It may be "popular", but it's like a Waikiki luau compared with the real thing.
> > > >
> > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > A chain restaurant food item could also be an archetype example of a dish. The distillation of the essence of a
> > > regional food item. Perhaps not the best example, but a very recognizable one.
> >
> > Sure. If you distill all the goodness out of it, leaving only the bland, least-common denominator.
> >
> > I'm not sure it's worth it to keep pressing my point. I suspect you're too indiscriminate an eater
> > to appreciate the difference between, say, the biscuits made at a local eatery by someone who's
> > been making them all her life and the biscuits at McDonald's.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> If you believe that you're of a higher class than I because you're so picky, I believe that you're wrong. Mostly, it means that you're a picky eater - big deal!

Class has nothing to do with it. It's about paying attention to details, and to a certain extent educating
one's palate. I look to James Beard as the standard in this.

> Most regional specialties are going to be simple fare.

The simpler food is, the more difficult it is to get it right.

> If it gets duded-up to suit your higher class tastes, it becomes something else. I don't mind going to a local diner to eat but if you think that the food will automatically be better, you're living in a dream world.

Not automatically. But there's a chance it will be wonderful. A chain will always be mediocre.

> As far as biscuits goes, I know how to make biscuits. It's not a big deal.. A biscuit is a biscuit is a biscuit. I
> don't care if it's made by Loulou in the back. All I care about is that it's not gummy or pasty and not funky.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKVI...l=IvyLevanVEVO

Oh, my dear. There is a world of difference between an excellent biscuit and a merely adequate one.
Gummy, pasty, or funky would not even rate "adequate".

Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 5:56:16 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:23:26 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > > When people from Hawaii visit the mainland, they're at a loss
> > > for finding/eating Hawaiian kine food. Their search for this
> > > food pretty much starts as soon as the airplane wheels touch
> > > the landing strip. If we can't find local style food,
> > > Japanese food, would do in a pinch.
> >
> > I would think that when visiting far away places, you should
> > go for the local cuisine, not your normal food.
> When we were in the UK, we spent some time looking for fish and chips. It was okay. The next time we're there, I'll be sure to hunt down some pasties and try to find haggis. Hopefully, it'll haggis in a safe environment like a hotel.

I could eat fish & chips darned near every day as long as I've got lemon juice.
Same with pinto beans & cheese, as long as I have good salsa.

--Bryan

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 8:43:00 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> On 10/22/2020 9:02 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 6:50:57 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >> On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:22:04 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:37:59 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >>>> On Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 1:57:03 AM UTC-10, Jason Evans wrote:
> >>>>> I've been living in Prague for the past 5 years. I'm originally from the
> >>>>> midwest US with a 15-year stint in NC.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There's a lot of "American" or "American-ized" foods that I miss that I
> >>>>> can't get here. Don't get me wrong, I've learned to love Czech goulash,
> >>>>> svÃ*Ä�ková, sausages, and rizek (schnitzel). My wife is Ukrainian and I get
> >>>>> my fill of holupsy (cabbage rolls) and kotlets (mini burgers without
> >>>>> bread). However I can't find real fried chicken unless I cook it myself,
> >>>>> smoked BBQ (aka pulled pork) or briskit, black-eyed peas, chicken and
> >>>>> dumplins, and especially not biscuits and gravy or deep dish pizza. I
> >>>>> also can't find "American-Chinese" food like General Tso's chicken which
> >>>>> I crave every now and then.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Even some ingredients are hard to come by. There's no shortage of the
> >>>>> staples: bread, milk, flour, eggs, salt, or sugar, etc. but canned good
> >>>>> for example, Cream of chicken soup or cream of any kind of soup is
> >>>>> unheard of. It's the same with canned broth and a dozen other things
> >>>>> unless I order it from overseas and that's really expensive.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This article isn't to complain, it's just to talk about some of the
> >>>>> differences that I see here that I didn't have in the US. On the plus
> >>>>> side, it's amazing that I can walk out of the subway in almost any part
> >>>>> of the city and buy a hot slice of decent pizza or a box of hot gnocchi
> >>>>> for less than $2 (at least I could before covid). Knowing a little of the
> >>>>> local language, I really can go to restaurants where beer is cheaper than
> >>>>> water.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My question to the group is, does anyone here live away from home and
> >>>>> what food changes do you see any what do you miss? If you have any
> >>>>> questions for me about food here, please let ask.
> >>>> When people from Hawaii visit the mainland, they're at a loss for finding/eating Hawaiian kine food. Their search for this food pretty much starts as soon as the airplane wheels touch the landing strip. If we can't find local style food, Japanese food, would do in a pinch. The first time we were on the mainland, we were delighted to find a place called "Hawaiian Barbecue." As it goes, it wasn't Hawaiian at all - it was pretty much a standard Korean restaurant. My wife liked that since she was raised on Korean food.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilhyv5MmoJU
> >>>
> >>> Why on earth do people travel and eat the same stuff they can get at home? It's different if
> >>> you're living in a foreign place (like the OP). But it seems like a wasted opportunity to
> >>> visit a place and not take advantage of regional specialities. You may as well just
> >>> stay at home.
> >>>
> >>> Cindy Hamilton
> >> Regional specialties are fine with me. My favorite place to eat on the mainland was the IHOP or chain restaurants. They serve popular American cuisine. I've gone to Denny's in our little town because they serve stuff that's different from the local food. Stuff like biscuits and gravy and chicken fried steak and grits. I'd like to try some Southern regional foods without actually going down South. East coast specialties would be great but I've yet to reach that side of the country.
> >
> > Oh. My. God.
> >
> > Nothing at chain restaurants remotely resembles the real, regional cooking of the U.S. It's homogenized
> > slop that comes right from the food service supplier.
> >
> > It may be "popular", but it's like a Waikiki luau compared with the real thing.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> Yeah, likely Sysco. No wonder he has such a poor opinion of food on the
> mainland.

Using Sysco products is no worse than using jarred mayo and condensed
"cream of" soups.
>
> Jill

--Bryan

On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 07:06:49 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>> An Australian woman once said to me: "We went on a holiday to
>> Singapore. They eat all kinds of weird things there, but at least they
>> also had a McDonalds".
>
>lol If I went to Singapore, I would try their cuisine and
>look forward to it. Good to know there's always a McD
>backup though. heh eheh

I'm sure they'll also have something for the more conservative taste
buds in Singapore, but I've only tried their beer at the airport.

On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 06:57:20 +1100, Bruce wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 07:06:49 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>>Bruce wrote:
>>> An Australian woman once said to me: "We went on a holiday to
>>> Singapore. They eat all kinds of weird things there, but at least they
>>> also had a McDonalds".
>>
>>lol If I went to Singapore, I would try their cuisine and
>>look forward to it. Good to know there's always a McD
>>backup though. heh eheh
>
> I'm sure they'll also have something for the more conservative taste
> buds in Singapore, but I've only tried their beer at the airport.

I spent 3 weeks there in 1975 and regarding food, the cuisines available
reflect the Malay, Chinese, Indian et al. inhabitants. We fed our infant
son on the fantastic array of street food then available and dined at
restaurants that specialised in the food of different regions of China. We
also experienced what can only be described as Indian "haute cuisine".

On 10/22/2020 3:59 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 22/10/2020 03:11, Leo wrote:
>> On 2020 Oct 21, , Jason Evans wrote
>> (in article >):
>>
>>> My question to the group is, does anyone here live away from home and
>>> what food changes do you see any what do you miss? If you have any
>>> questions for me about food here, please let ask.
>>
>> I hope that people who can answer, do answer. I have no experience and
>> have
>> never lived elsewhere than my home state.
>>
>>
> When I'm in Scotland, I can't find blocks of cream cheese, just the
> watery 'spreadable' stuff, which doesn't work well in my baking recipes.
>
> It's also difficult to find nice big sweet onions, like Vidalias. I've
> sometimes found them at Lidl, but it's hit and miss.
>
> Good flat egg noodles can be difficult to find, too, but they're easy to
> make at home.
>
> I also miss Idaho baking potatoes. There's quite a variety of tasty
> potatoes available here, but I've found no good substitute for Idahos.

I would surely miss Idaho potatoes!

Jill

Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 07:06:49 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Bruce wrote:
>>> An Australian woman once said to me: "We went on a holiday to
>>> Singapore. They eat all kinds of weird things there, but at least they
>>> also had a McDonalds".
>>
>> lol If I went to Singapore, I would try their cuisine and
>> look forward to it. Good to know there's always a McD
>> backup though. heh eheh
>
> I'm sure they'll also have something for the more conservative taste
> buds in Singapore, but I've only tried their beer at the airport.
>

They threw you out pretty quick Druce.

Graham wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 06:57:20 +1100, Bruce wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 07:06:49 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>> An Australian woman once said to me: "We went on a holiday to
>>>> Singapore. They eat all kinds of weird things there, but at least they
>>>> also had a McDonalds".
>>>
>>> lol If I went to Singapore, I would try their cuisine and
>>> look forward to it. Good to know there's always a McD
>>> backup though. heh eheh
>>
>> I'm sure they'll also have something for the more conservative taste
>> buds in Singapore, but I've only tried their beer at the airport.
>
> I spent 3 weeks there in 1975 and regarding food, the cuisines available
> reflect the Malay, Chinese, Indian et al. inhabitants. We fed our infant
> son on the fantastic array of street food then available and dined at
> restaurants that specialised in the food of different regions of China. We
> also experienced what can only be described as Indian "haute cuisine".
>

Apache or Cherokee?

On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 16:47:15 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 10/22/2020 3:59 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 22/10/2020 03:11, Leo wrote:
>>> On 2020 Oct 21, , Jason Evans wrote
>>> (in article >):
>>>
>>>> My question to the group is, does anyone here live away from home and
>>>> what food changes do you see any what do you miss? If you have any
>>>> questions for me about food here, please let ask.
>>>
>>> I hope that people who can answer, do answer. I have no experience and
>>> have
>>> never lived elsewhere than my home state.
>>>
>>>
>> When I'm in Scotland, I can't find blocks of cream cheese, just the
>> watery 'spreadable' stuff, which doesn't work well in my baking recipes.
>>
>> It's also difficult to find nice big sweet onions, like Vidalias. I've
>> sometimes found them at Lidl, but it's hit and miss.
>>
>> Good flat egg noodles can be difficult to find, too, but they're easy to
>> make at home.
>>
>> I also miss Idaho baking potatoes. There's quite a variety of tasty
>> potatoes available here, but I've found no good substitute for Idahos.
>
>I would surely miss Idaho potatoes!
>
>Jill

On 2020-10-22 11:52 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 4:18:18 AM UTC-10, S Viemeister
>
>> Haggis used to be readily available year-round - I could even get
>> it at the Woolworth cafeteria. If you want to be sure of finding
>> some, visit Scotland in January for Burns Night, or late November
>> for St Andrew's Day.
>
> Sounds like you're saying that haggis might be difficult to find in
> Scotland these days. I can't say when we'd be there.
>

I have never had it. I would likely try it if the opportunity presented
itself. However, my expectations would probably be low. I have seen lots
of national foods spread across they world and be adapted by other
countries and cultures, like spaghetti, tacos, perogies, curry. Haggis
never seemed to make it out of Scotland. Despite the incredible number
of Scots who emigrated to the US, Canada and Australia, you will only
find it in these countries when a small group of Scots will gather for
Robbie Burns Day.

On 10/22/2020 5:44 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-10-22 11:52 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
>> On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 4:18:18 AM UTC-10, S Viemeister
>>
>>> Haggis used to be readily available year-round - I could even get
>>> it at the Woolworth cafeteria. If you want to be sure of finding
>>> some, visit Scotland in January for Burns Night, or late November
>>> for St Andrew's Day.
>>
>> Sounds like you're saying that haggis might be difficult to find in
>> Scotland these days. I can't say when we'd be there.
>>
>
> I have never had it. I would likely try it if the opportunity presented
> itself. However, my expectations would probably be low. I have seen lots
> of national foods spread across they world and be adapted by other
> countries and cultures, like spaghetti, tacos, perogies,Â* curry.Â* Haggis
> never seemed to make it out of Scotland.Â* Despite the incredible number
> of Scots who emigrated to the US, Canada and Australia, you will only
> find it in these countries when a small group of Scots will gather for
> Robbie Burns Day.

I do believe my maternal grandparents ate Haggis at a gathering in Ohio
on Rabbie Burns' birthday a few times but that would have been in the
1930's. It's a clannish thing.

Jill

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> dsi1 wrote:
> > If you believe that you're of a higher class than I because
> > you're so picky, I believe that you're wrong. Mostly, it
> > means that you're a picky eater - big deal!
>
> Class has nothing to do with it. It's about paying attention
> to details, and to a certain extent educating one's palate.

heheh "educating one's palate." I've heard that so many
times and it cracks me up every time.

I guess my palate was born smart. I've always known
what I like to eat or drink.

On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 7:51:00 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > dsi1 wrote:
> > > If you believe that you're of a higher class than I because
> > > you're so picky, I believe that you're wrong. Mostly, it
> > > means that you're a picky eater - big deal!
> >
> > Class has nothing to do with it. It's about paying attention
> > to details, and to a certain extent educating one's palate.
> heheh "educating one's palate." I've heard that so many
> times and it cracks me up every time.

Why? It's really a matter of educating your brain and its
perceptions of what's good. Did you have to educate yourself
to know the difference between good, mediocre, and bad in
any other aspect of life? How can you tell a good paint job
from a crappy one? Because you trained yourself to know
what to look for.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 7:51:00 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >
> > > dsi1 wrote:
> > > > If you believe that you're of a higher class than I because
> > > > you're so picky, I believe that you're wrong. Mostly, it
> > > > means that you're a picky eater - big deal!
> > >
> > > Class has nothing to do with it. It's about paying attention
> > > to details, and to a certain extent educating one's palate.
> > heheh "educating one's palate." I've heard that so many
> > times and it cracks me up every time.
>
> Why? It's really a matter of educating your brain and its
> perceptions of what's good. Did you have to educate yourself
> to know the difference between good, mediocre, and bad in
> any other aspect of life? How can you tell a good paint job
> from a crappy one? Because you trained yourself to know
> what to look for.

Apples and oranges. I've always known what tastes good or
not to me. Doesn't matter what others think.
No training required.

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 4:47:26 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On 10/22/2020 3:59 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> > On 22/10/2020 03:11, Leo wrote:
> >> On 2020 Oct 21, , Jason Evans wrote
> >> (in article >):
> >>
> >>> My question to the group is, does anyone here live away from home and
> >>> what food changes do you see any what do you miss? If you have any
> >>> questions for me about food here, please let ask.
> >>
> >> I hope that people who can answer, do answer. I have no experience and
> >> have
> >> never lived elsewhere than my home state.
> >>
> >>
> > When I'm in Scotland, I can't find blocks of cream cheese, just the
> > watery 'spreadable' stuff, which doesn't work well in my baking recipes.
> >
> > It's also difficult to find nice big sweet onions, like Vidalias. I've
> > sometimes found them at Lidl, but it's hit and miss.
> >
> > Good flat egg noodles can be difficult to find, too, but they're easy to
> > make at home.
> >
> > I also miss Idaho baking potatoes. There's quite a variety of tasty
> > potatoes available here, but I've found no good substitute for Idahos.
> I would surely miss Idaho potatoes!

How do you know? How do you know if the potato didn't reallyk come from Nebraska, Washington State or Iowa? Like with a maryland crab cake. How do you know if Maryland crabs didn't really come from the gulf of Mexico?

On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 10:37:44 AM UTC-4, Transition Zone wrote:
> On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 4:47:26 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> > On 10/22/2020 3:59 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> > > On 22/10/2020 03:11, Leo wrote:
> > >> On 2020 Oct 21, , Jason Evans wrote
> > >> (in article >):
> > >>
> > >>> My question to the group is, does anyone here live away from home and
> > >>> what food changes do you see any what do you miss? If you have any
> > >>> questions for me about food here, please let ask.
> > >>
> > >> I hope that people who can answer, do answer. I have no experience and
> > >> have
> > >> never lived elsewhere than my home state.
> > >>
> > >>
> > > When I'm in Scotland, I can't find blocks of cream cheese, just the
> > > watery 'spreadable' stuff, which doesn't work well in my baking recipes.
> > >
> > > It's also difficult to find nice big sweet onions, like Vidalias. I've
> > > sometimes found them at Lidl, but it's hit and miss.
> > >
> > > Good flat egg noodles can be difficult to find, too, but they're easy to
> > > make at home.
> > >
> > > I also miss Idaho baking potatoes. There's quite a variety of tasty
> > > potatoes available here, but I've found no good substitute for Idahos.
> > I would surely miss Idaho potatoes!
> How do you know? How do you know if the potato didn't reallyk come from Nebraska, Washington State or Iowa? Like with a maryland crab cake. How do you know if Maryland crabs didn't really come from the gulf of Mexico?

The "Idaho potato" they're talking about was possibly grown in Idaho, but the important thing is that
it's a Russet potato.

Idaho claims it grows the best Russets, but that's just marketing hype.

Cindy Hamilton

Transition Zone wrote:
>
> Jill wrote:
> > > I also miss Idaho baking potatoes. There's quite a variety of tasty
> > > potatoes available here, but I've found no good substitute for Idahos.
> > I would surely miss Idaho potatoes!
>
> How do you know? How do you know if the potato didn't really
> come from Nebraska, Washington State or Iowa? Like with a
> maryland crab cake. How do you know if Maryland crabs didn't
> really come from the gulf of Mexico?

lol Well said! Nothing special about Idaho potatoes. Taste
the same no matter were they are grown. That was just the
main crop grown in that state.

Same as Nebraska is known as the "cornhuskers state."
Nothing special about Nebraska corn. That's just their
main crop, or used to be.

Maryland crabs taste just like Virginia crabs or any
other blue crabs.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> The "Idaho potato" they're talking about was possibly grown in Idaho, but the important thing is that
> it's a Russet potato.
>
> Idaho claims it grows the best Russets, but that's just marketing hype.

And a Russet potato is my least favorite of all.
Way too dry, imo. I don't even buy them when they
are the cheapest 'on sale' potatoes.

My favorite is the red potatoes.