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On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 22:58:20 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2020-08-26 9:40 p.m., cshenk wrote: >> Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >>> Don't drink milkshakes, bad for you. So I asked is milk OK? Sure >>> that is OK. Is a little ice cream OK? Yes, that is OK. >>> >>> Hamburgers? No bad. Ground beef? Sure, lean is OK. >>> >>> A couple of the others caught on but the professional dietician never >>> did. >> >> Sad smile, sometimes, you get a bad one. Lets hope Dave gets a good one. >> > I was not impressed with this one. She had a good script but had a >hard time answering questions. > >I am going to have to get used to being hungry. I damned near starved >in the hospital. I was missed a number of meals due to fasting for tests >and miscommunication. When I did get meal they were tiny portions, >typically 3-4 oz of meat and a large serving of one vegetable. In night >it was peas, one night corn and one night a mixture of broccoli and >cauliflower, sometimes a small bowl of applesauce or Jello. Hey, it's free! |
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On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 12:10:52 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-08-26 11:49 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote: > > On 8/26/2020 12:28 AM, Bruce wrote: > > >>> A couple of the others caught on but the professional dietician never > >>> did. > >> > >> Maybe they caught on better than you realised :) > >> > > If not in her book she had no clue. > > The dietitian I spoke with today was pretty clueless. She was pretty > good at her normal presentation but it was really hard to get her to > answer. For instance, she talked about using skim milk instead of > homo. My son has issues with me using homo, so she suggested 1%. I told > her I use it only on cereal. Oh, well if that's all you use it on and > don't sit around drinking milk a little homo should be okay. You found the dietitian to be less than helpful? I can relate to that. Those guys think they're doctors. They are not. |
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On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 10:58:26 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-08-26 9:40 p.m., cshenk wrote: > > Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >> Don't drink milkshakes, bad for you. So I asked is milk OK? Sure > >> that is OK. Is a little ice cream OK? Yes, that is OK. > >> > >> Hamburgers? No bad. Ground beef? Sure, lean is OK. > >> > >> A couple of the others caught on but the professional dietician never > >> did. > > > > Sad smile, sometimes, you get a bad one. Lets hope Dave gets a good one. > > > I was not impressed with this one. She had a good script but had a > hard time answering questions. > > I am going to have to get used to being hungry. I damned near starved > in the hospital. I was missed a number of meals due to fasting for tests > and miscommunication. When I did get meal they were tiny portions, > typically 3-4 oz of meat and a large serving of one vegetable. In night > it was peas, one night corn and one night a mixture of broccoli and > cauliflower, sometimes a small bowl of applesauce or Jello. Sounds like a typical meal for me. How much food do you need if you're sitting around in the hospital? Cindy Hamilton |
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On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 6:30:11 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 18:11:47 -0400, Dave Smith > > wrote: > > >On 2020-08-26 11:49 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >> On 8/26/2020 12:28 AM, Bruce wrote: > > > >>>> A couple of the others caught on but the professional dietician never > >>>> did. > >>> > >>> Maybe they caught on better than you realised :) > >>> > >> If not in her book she had no clue. > > > >The dietitian I spoke with today was pretty clueless. She was pretty > >good at her normal presentation but it was really hard to get her to > >answer. For instance, she talked about using skim milk instead of > >homo. My son has issues with me using homo, so she suggested 1%. I told > >her I use it only on cereal. Oh, well if that's all you use it on and > >don't sit around drinking milk a little homo should be okay. > We might have to delve a bit more into the meaning of "homo". Homogenized. I imagine Dave is using it to refer to "full fat" milk, which is about 3.5% fat, IIRC. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 03:02:39 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 6:30:11 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote: >> On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 18:11:47 -0400, Dave Smith >> > wrote: >> >> >On 2020-08-26 11:49 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> >> On 8/26/2020 12:28 AM, Bruce wrote: >> > >> >>>> A couple of the others caught on but the professional dietician never >> >>>> did. >> >>> >> >>> Maybe they caught on better than you realised :) >> >>> >> >> If not in her book she had no clue. >> > >> >The dietitian I spoke with today was pretty clueless. She was pretty >> >good at her normal presentation but it was really hard to get her to >> >answer. For instance, she talked about using skim milk instead of >> >homo. My son has issues with me using homo, so she suggested 1%. I told >> >her I use it only on cereal. Oh, well if that's all you use it on and >> >don't sit around drinking milk a little homo should be okay. >> We might have to delve a bit more into the meaning of "homo". > >Homogenized. I imagine Dave is using it to refer to "full fat" milk, >which is about 3.5% fat, IIRC. Ok, I thought he finally realised he was into little homos. |
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 03:01:02 -0700, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> How much food do you need if you're sitting around in the hospital? Depends if you are planning to break out. You might want to put together some field rations and spare clothes, etc. Be sure to steal someone's shoes so the dogs cannot track you. |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:40:24 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >> On 8/25/2020 11:09 PM, cshenk wrote: >> >> > You will get dietician assistance but the inital may be so >> > 'mainstream USA' that they don't work very well for you. It's very >> > common. >> > >> > The Doctor may not know how to see if papaya or eels (just a random >> > thing you may or may not like I typed in) are good for you. >> > >> > The recommended diet is apt to be just 4-6 vegetables, 3-4 fruits, 3 >> > meats, and 3 'dairy'. 2-4 grains. Until you get with the dietician, >> > you can't get enough specifics for your MG sodium, protein, >> > potassium etc. per day. Once you have them, you can look up a >> > about 10K worth of items for those details. >> > >> > Then you take them (probably email) to your dietician and they >> > validate. >> > >> > It's probably not recalled well, but I helped a kidney cancer and >> > stomach cancer patient out here in the newsgroup. Both were told to >> > run my findings through medical to make sure I was right and they >> > panned out from medical. >> > >> > Now to find that link again.... Win10 is being a little akward but >> > I'll find it and have posted it before. >> > >> >> I have little regard for dieticians. When my wife had CHF they had >> her go to a Dietician meeting with a handful of others in similar >> situation. >> >> Dietician said do not eat sausage as it is bad for you. So, I >> asked, "is it OK to eat ground pork?" Yes. OK to season it with >> oregano, rosemary, pepper and a few other herbs? Yes, that is OK. >> >> Don't drink milkshakes, bad for you. So I asked is milk OK? Sure >> that is OK. Is a little ice cream OK? Yes, that is OK. >> >> Hamburgers? No bad. Ground beef? Sure, lean is OK. >> >> A couple of the others caught on but the professional dietician never >> did. > >Sad smile, sometimes, you get a bad one. Lets hope Dave gets a good one. A diatician is not a medical doctor, and most who claim to be a dietician are charletans. There are thousands of books written on the subject of diet, most authored by people who haven't a clue about proper diet. Most diets that are touted are fads and fakery. There's plenty of legitimate information available for free about what nutrition is contained in foods, in fact food labels are an excellent source. MDs who diagnose a medical condition are able to suggest which foods to add/subtract and which suppliments can help. For a while I was experiencing night leg cramps so that I was unable to sleep. I asked my doctor what can help and he suggested I eat a banana every day for the potasium and to take a magnesium tablet... like magic no more night leg cramps... bananas are cheap as are magnesium tablets, and no Rx needed. I think that most people know on their own what constitutes a proper diet. People know automatically that to lose weight to cut back on carbs and fats... no one needs a dietician to tell them to cut back on bread and butter, beer and wings, mystery meat burgers and fries. |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 20:40:24 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >> On 8/25/2020 11:09 PM, cshenk wrote: >> >> > You will get dietician assistance but the inital may be so >> > 'mainstream USA' that they don't work very well for you. It's very >> > common. >> > >> > The Doctor may not know how to see if papaya or eels (just a random >> > thing you may or may not like I typed in) are good for you. >> > >> > The recommended diet is apt to be just 4-6 vegetables, 3-4 fruits, 3 >> > meats, and 3 'dairy'. 2-4 grains. Until you get with the dietician, >> > you can't get enough specifics for your MG sodium, protein, >> > potassium etc. per day. Once you have them, you can look up a >> > about 10K worth of items for those details. >> > >> > Then you take them (probably email) to your dietician and they >> > validate. >> > >> > It's probably not recalled well, but I helped a kidney cancer and >> > stomach cancer patient out here in the newsgroup. Both were told to >> > run my findings through medical to make sure I was right and they >> > panned out from medical. >> > >> > Now to find that link again.... Win10 is being a little akward but >> > I'll find it and have posted it before. >> > >> >> I have little regard for dieticians. When my wife had CHF they had >> her go to a Dietician meeting with a handful of others in similar >> situation. >> >> Dietician said do not eat sausage as it is bad for you. So, I >> asked, "is it OK to eat ground pork?" Yes. OK to season it with >> oregano, rosemary, pepper and a few other herbs? Yes, that is OK. >> >> Don't drink milkshakes, bad for you. So I asked is milk OK? Sure >> that is OK. Is a little ice cream OK? Yes, that is OK. >> >> Hamburgers? No bad. Ground beef? Sure, lean is OK. The only way to know the fat content of ground beef is to grind it yourself. >> A couple of the others caught on but the professional dietician never >> did. > >Sad smile, sometimes, you get a bad one. Lets hope Dave gets a good one. |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 22:58:20 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2020-08-26 9:40 p.m., cshenk wrote: >> Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >>> Don't drink milkshakes, bad for you. So I asked is milk OK? Sure >>> that is OK. Is a little ice cream OK? Yes, that is OK. >>> >>> Hamburgers? No bad. Ground beef? Sure, lean is OK. >>> >>> A couple of the others caught on but the professional dietician never >>> did. >> >> Sad smile, sometimes, you get a bad one. Lets hope Dave gets a good one. >> > I was not impressed with this one. She had a good script but had a >hard time answering questions. > >I am going to have to get used to being hungry. I damned near starved >in the hospital. I was missed a number of meals due to fasting for tests >and miscommunication. When I did get meal they were tiny portions, >typically 3-4 oz of meat and a large serving of one vegetable. In night >it was peas, one night corn and one night a mixture of broccoli and >cauliflower, sometimes a small bowl of applesauce or Jello. Hospital diets go to the extremes because they can't prepare a custom meal for each patient, instead they prepare a starvation meal for all patients. At home it's easy to prepare proper foods and not be hungry, there are lots of fresh veggies and fruit to choose from, and it's easy to eliminate fat/sugar laden dressings by making your own. I usually dress my salad with plain fat free yogurt mixed with herbs, fresh lemon juice, and a small drizzle of EVOO, sometimes a few drops of toasted sesame seed oil. For burgers I grind my own, choose a lean cut like top round, and trim away all visible fat... I can have a larger amount with no guilt, a large burger with no bun is called a chopped steak, instead of ketchup or bbq sauce a drizzle of soy sauce adds flavor with zero calories. Sometimes I'll turn the ground meat into a sloppy joe/chile, canned tomato sauce contains no fat, neither do canned beans and bell peppers, onions and garlic. To save time I keep an assortment of dehy veggies in the cupboard, and minced dehy onions don't bother my wife. |
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 13:01:01 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 22:58:20 -0400, Dave Smith > wrote: > >>On 2020-08-26 9:40 p.m., cshenk wrote: >>> Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> >>>> Don't drink milkshakes, bad for you. So I asked is milk OK? Sure >>>> that is OK. Is a little ice cream OK? Yes, that is OK. There's low/no fat milk and ice cream. My wife uses 2% milk in her tea and coffee. >>>> Hamburgers? No bad. Ground beef? Sure, lean is OK. >>>> >>>> A couple of the others caught on but the professional dietician never >>>> did. >>> >>> Sad smile, sometimes, you get a bad one. Lets hope Dave gets a good one. >>> >> I was not impressed with this one. She had a good script but had a >>hard time answering questions. >> >>I am going to have to get used to being hungry. I damned near starved >>in the hospital. I was missed a number of meals due to fasting for tests >>and miscommunication. When I did get meal they were tiny portions, >>typically 3-4 oz of meat and a large serving of one vegetable. In night >>it was peas, one night corn and one night a mixture of broccoli and >>cauliflower, sometimes a small bowl of applesauce or Jello. > >Hey, it's free! |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 22:52:43 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote: >On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 12:10:52 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote: >> On 2020-08-26 11:49 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> > On 8/26/2020 12:28 AM, Bruce wrote: >> >> >>> A couple of the others caught on but the professional dietician never >> >>> did. >> >> >> >> Maybe they caught on better than you realised :) >> >> >> > If not in her book she had no clue. >> >> The dietitian I spoke with today was pretty clueless. She was pretty >> good at her normal presentation but it was really hard to get her to >> answer. For instance, she talked about using skim milk instead of >> homo. My son has issues with me using homo, so she suggested 1%. I told >> her I use it only on cereal. Oh, well if that's all you use it on and >> don't sit around drinking milk a little homo should be okay. Wouldn't "Homo" milk refer to faggot milk... perhaps you mean skim milk or 2% milk? Milk is homogenized to keep it from separating. >You found the dietitian to be less than helpful? I can relate to that. Those guys think they're doctors. They are not. |
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Sheldon wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 22:52:43 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 > > wrote: > > >On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 12:10:52 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote: > >> On 2020-08-26 11:49 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >> > On 8/26/2020 12:28 AM, Bruce wrote: > >> > >> >>> A couple of the others caught on but the professional dietician never > >> >>> did. > >> >> > >> >> Maybe they caught on better than you realised :) > >> >> > >> > If not in her book she had no clue. > >> > >> The dietitian I spoke with today was pretty clueless. She was pretty > >> good at her normal presentation but it was really hard to get her to > >> answer. For instance, she talked about using skim milk instead of > >> homo. My son has issues with me using homo, so she suggested 1%. I told > >> her I use it only on cereal. Oh, well if that's all you use it on and > >> don't sit around drinking milk a little homo should be okay. > > Wouldn't "Homo" milk refer to faggot milk... perhaps you mean skim > milk or 2% milk? Milk is homogenized to keep it from separating. I remember as a kid seeing "homo" milk in the stores and advertised (50's into the the 60's), my grandparents used it...thought it was an odd name even then...didn't see it by the later 60's... Kinda like that diet aid "Ayds", ;memba that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayds "Ayds (pronounced as "aids") Reducing Plan Candy is a discontinued appetite-suppressant candy that enjoyed strong sales in the 1970s and early 1980s and was originally manufactured by The Carlay Company. It was available in chocolate, chocolate mint, butterscotch, and caramel flavors, and later a peanut butter flavor was introduced. The original packaging used the phrase "Ayds Reducing Plan vitamin and mineral Candy"; a later version used the phrase "appetite suppressant candy". The active ingredient was originally benzocaine, presumably to reduce the sense of taste to reduce eating, later changed in the candy (as reported by The New York Times) to phenylpropanolamine. By the mid-1980s, public awareness of the disease AIDS caused problems for the brand due to the phonetic similarity of names and the fact that the disease caused immense weight loss in patients. While initially sales were not affected, by 1988 the chair of Dep Corporation announced that the company was seeking a new name because sales had dropped as much as 50% due to publicity about the disease. While the product's name was changed to Diet Ayds (Aydslim in Britain), it was eventually withdrawn from the market..." -- Best Greg |
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Bruce wrote:
> > On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 18:11:47 -0400, Dave Smith > > wrote: > > >On 2020-08-26 11:49 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >> On 8/26/2020 12:28 AM, Bruce wrote: > > > >>>> A couple of the others caught on but the professional dietician never > >>>> did. > >>> > >>> Maybe they caught on better than you realised :) > >>> > >> If not in her book she had no clue. > > > >The dietitian I spoke with today was pretty clueless. She was pretty > >good at her normal presentation but it was really hard to get her to > >answer. For instance, she talked about using skim milk instead of > >homo. My son has issues with me using homo, so she suggested 1%. I told > >her I use it only on cereal. Oh, well if that's all you use it on and > >don't sit around drinking milk a little homo should be okay. > > We might have to delve a bit more into the meaning of "homo". Nothing wrong with homo as long as his wife doesn't hear about his alt life choices. ;) |
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 03:02:39 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 6:30:11 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote: >> On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 18:11:47 -0400, Dave Smith >> > wrote: >> >> >On 2020-08-26 11:49 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> >> On 8/26/2020 12:28 AM, Bruce wrote: >> > >> >>>> A couple of the others caught on but the professional dietician never >> >>>> did. >> >>> >> >>> Maybe they caught on better than you realised :) >> >>> >> >> If not in her book she had no clue. >> > >> >The dietitian I spoke with today was pretty clueless. She was pretty >> >good at her normal presentation but it was really hard to get her to >> >answer. For instance, she talked about using skim milk instead of >> >homo. My son has issues with me using homo, so she suggested 1%. I told >> >her I use it only on cereal. Oh, well if that's all you use it on and >> >don't sit around drinking milk a little homo should be okay. >> We might have to delve a bit more into the meaning of "homo". > >Homogenized. I imagine Dave is using it to refer to "full fat" milk, >which is about 3.5% fat, IIRC. > >Cindy Hamilton Full fat milk contains 4% fat, Skim containss 0% fat, low fat contains 2% or 1% fat but 1% is not readily found. All milk today is homogenized to prevent it from separating into it's liquid and solid portions... even fat free milk contains solids and water. |
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On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 5:12:36 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 22:52:43 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 > > wrote: > > >On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 12:10:52 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote: > >> On 2020-08-26 11:49 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >> > On 8/26/2020 12:28 AM, Bruce wrote: > >> > >> >>> A couple of the others caught on but the professional dietician never > >> >>> did. > >> >> > >> >> Maybe they caught on better than you realised :) > >> >> > >> > If not in her book she had no clue. > >> > >> The dietitian I spoke with today was pretty clueless. She was pretty > >> good at her normal presentation but it was really hard to get her to > >> answer. For instance, she talked about using skim milk instead of > >> homo. My son has issues with me using homo, so she suggested 1%. I told > >> her I use it only on cereal. Oh, well if that's all you use it on and > >> don't sit around drinking milk a little homo should be okay. > > Wouldn't "Homo" milk refer to faggot milk... perhaps you mean skim > milk or 2% milk? Milk is homogenized to keep it from separating. > > >You found the dietitian to be less than helpful? I can relate to that. Those guys think they're doctors. They are not. Learn how to trim posts to get your attributions correct or don't even try, pal. Sound attributions are so important. Hopefully you don't butcher your meats like you do your posts. |
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 11:43:41 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>Bruce wrote: >> >> On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 18:11:47 -0400, Dave Smith >> > wrote: >> >> >On 2020-08-26 11:49 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> >>> >> >> If not in her book she had no clue. >> > >> >The dietitian I spoke with today was pretty clueless. She was pretty >> >good at her normal presentation but it was really hard to get her to >> >answer. For instance, she talked about using skim milk instead of >> >homo. My son has issues with me using homo, so she suggested 1%. I told >> >her I use it only on cereal. Oh, well if that's all you use it on and >> >don't sit around drinking milk a little homo should be okay. >> >> We might have to delve a bit more into the meaning of "homo". > >Nothing wrong with homo as long as his wife doesn't hear about >his alt life choices. ;) The wife could be a carpet shark. |
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Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 11:43:41 -0400, Gary > wrote: > >> Bruce wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 18:11:47 -0400, Dave Smith >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> On 2020-08-26 11:49 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> If not in her book she had no clue. >>>> >>>> The dietitian I spoke with today was pretty clueless. She was pretty >>>> good at her normal presentation but it was really hard to get her to >>>> answer. For instance, she talked about using skim milk instead of >>>> homo. My son has issues with me using homo, so she suggested 1%. I told >>>> her I use it only on cereal. Oh, well if that's all you use it on and >>>> don't sit around drinking milk a little homo should be okay. >>> >>> We might have to delve a bit more into the meaning of "homo". >> >> Nothing wrong with homo as long as his wife doesn't hear about >> his alt life choices. ;) > > The wife could be a carpet shark. > <*SNIFF*> |
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Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-08-26 9:40 p.m., cshenk wrote: > > Ed Pawlowski wrote: > > > > Don't drink milkshakes, bad for you. So I asked is milk OK? Sure > > > that is OK. Is a little ice cream OK? Yes, that is OK. > > > > > > Hamburgers? No bad. Ground beef? Sure, lean is OK. > > > > > > A couple of the others caught on but the professional dietician > > > never did. > > > > Sad smile, sometimes, you get a bad one. Lets hope Dave gets a good > > one. > > > I was not impressed with this one. She had a good script but had a > hard time answering questions. > > I am going to have to get used to being hungry. I damned near > starved in the hospital. I was missed a number of meals due to > fasting for tests and miscommunication. When I did get meal they were > tiny portions, typically 3-4 oz of meat and a large serving of one > vegetable. In night it was peas, one night corn and one night a > mixture of broccoli and cauliflower, sometimes a small bowl of > applesauce or Jello. I remember when I was in the hospital after Charlotte was born by C-section. They forgot to feed me. No tests involved, just got missed 4 times. Twice on the first day then breakfast next day and lunch the one after that. Military (taxpayers) got billed for all 4 and was released day 5 and they billed tax payers for lunch and dinner (which I didn't get). |
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On 2020-08-28 11:05 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote: > >> I am going to have to get used to being hungry. I damned near >> starved in the hospital. I was missed a number of meals due to >> fasting for tests and miscommunication. When I did get meal they were >> tiny portions, typically 3-4 oz of meat and a large serving of one >> vegetable. In night it was peas, one night corn and one night a >> mixture of broccoli and cauliflower, sometimes a small bowl of >> applesauce or Jello. > > I remember when I was in the hospital after Charlotte was born by > C-section. They forgot to feed me. No tests involved, just got missed > 4 times. Twice on the first day then breakfast next day and lunch the > one after that. Military (taxpayers) got billed for all 4 and was > released day 5 and they billed tax payers for lunch and dinner (which I > didn't get). > Since they had scheduled that inversion for 11 am I had to fast, so no breakfast. After having missed so many meals over the previous 5 days I was pretty well used to being hungry. Since the meals were so bad I was not too concerned. The inversion did not happen until about 11:45 and I wasn't allowed to eat it for an hour. If I had known for sure that I would be discharged I would not have minded waiting until I got home. |
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On 2020-08-28 9:19 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-08-28 11:05 p.m., cshenk wrote: >> Dave Smith wrote: >> >>> I am going to have to get used to being hungry.Â* I damned near >>> starved in the hospital. I was missed a number of meals due to >>> fasting for tests and miscommunication. When I did get meal they were >>> tiny portions, typically 3-4 oz of meat and a large serving of one >>> vegetable. In night it was peas, one night corn and one night a >>> mixture of broccoli and cauliflower, sometimes a small bowl of >>> applesauce or Jello. >> >> I remember when I was in the hospital after Charlotte was born by >> C-section.Â* They forgot to feed me.Â* No tests involved, just got missed >> 4 times. Twice on the first day then breakfast next day and lunch the >> one after that.Â* Military (taxpayers) got billed for all 4 and was >> released day 5 and they billed tax payers for lunch and dinner (which I >> didn't get). >> > > Since they had scheduled that inversion for 11 am I had to fast, so no > breakfast. After having missed so many meals over the previous 5 days I > was pretty well used to being hungry. Since the meals were so bad I was > not too concerned. The inversion did not happen until about 11:45 and I > wasn't allowed to eat it for an hour. If I had known for sure that I > would be discharged I would not have minded waiting until I got home. 43 years ago I had back surgery and 22 years ago I had prostate cancer surgery in the same hospital. The food during the first stay was excellent and prepared on site. Sometime after that the Conservative government outsourced it to Cana, the company that makes airline meals. I'm not too fussy about food but there was a marked deterioration in quality. |
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On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 23:19:11 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2020-08-28 11:05 p.m., cshenk wrote: >> Dave Smith wrote: >> >>> I am going to have to get used to being hungry. I damned near >>> starved in the hospital. I was missed a number of meals due to >>> fasting for tests and miscommunication. When I did get meal they were >>> tiny portions, typically 3-4 oz of meat and a large serving of one >>> vegetable. In night it was peas, one night corn and one night a >>> mixture of broccoli and cauliflower, sometimes a small bowl of >>> applesauce or Jello. >> >> I remember when I was in the hospital after Charlotte was born by >> C-section. They forgot to feed me. No tests involved, just got missed >> 4 times. Twice on the first day then breakfast next day and lunch the >> one after that. Military (taxpayers) got billed for all 4 and was >> released day 5 and they billed tax payers for lunch and dinner (which I >> didn't get). >> > >Since they had scheduled that inversion for 11 am I had to fast, so no >breakfast. After having missed so many meals over the previous 5 days I >was pretty well used to being hungry. Since the meals were so bad I was >not too concerned. The inversion did not happen until about 11:45 and I >wasn't allowed to eat it for an hour. If I had known for sure that I >would be discharged I would not have minded waiting until I got home. I somehow missed when you first posted about your heart problems, Dave. I'm glad things are getting sorted out for you. My MIL had heart failure combined with kidney failure before she died. The diet restrictions can be really hard to take. Before anyone suggested that she should see a dietitian, all we were told was that she should avoid salt. The dietitian advised us that she should avoid anything with potassium or phosphorus - we hadn't known about that, and I'd been cooking her stuff that she liked, including butternut squash soup, banana bread, pumpkin bread, and all manner of potassium-rich things. Fortunately, we didn't kill her with that stuff. Last time I was in the hospital, my husband brought me food. Sandwiches, a couple of yogurt, some fruit, banana bread, etc. I knew I was going to be in there for the better part of a week, so I stocked up the kitchen for him. I knew how bad the food would be in the hospital, and I knew I wouldn't eat any of it. (It was a bowel resection surgery to deal with diverticulitis complications. Take it from me: don't get diverticulitis.) Doris |
A little setback
On 2020-08-28 11:38 p.m., graham wrote:
> On 2020-08-28 9:19 p.m., Dave Smith wrote: >> Since they had scheduled that inversion for 11 am I had to fast, so no >> breakfast. After having missed so many meals over the previous 5 days >> I was pretty well used to being hungry. Since the meals were so bad I >> was not too concerned. The inversion did not happen until about 11:45 >> and I wasn't allowed to eat it for an hour. If I had known for sure >> that I would be discharged I would not have minded waiting until I got >> home. > > 43 years ago I had back surgery and 22 years ago I had prostate cancer > surgery in the same hospital. The food during the first stay was > excellent and prepared on site. Sometime after that the Conservative > government outsourced it to Cana, the company that makes airline meals. > I'm not too fussy about food but there was a marked deterioration in > quality. Ten years ago I spent a week in Hamilton General and the food was pretty darned tasty. I was surprised at how good it was. This time, at the St.Catharines General, I was terribly disappointed with every meal. Lunches were generally a few ounces of meat and then a huge serving of one vegetable, like corn, peas or a combo of broccoli and cauliflower and sometimes a cup of Jello or applesauce. They included a cup and either a tea bag or packet of instant coffee. The water was tepid. I could put a tea bag in the cup and it would take a couple minutes before there was even a hint of colour to it. |
A little setback
On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 "cshenk" wrote:
> >I remember when I was in the hospital after Charlotte was born by >C-section. They forgot to feed me. No tests involved, just got missed >4 times. Twice on the first day then breakfast next day and lunch the >one after that. Military (taxpayers) got billed for all 4 and was >released day 5 and they billed tax payers for lunch and dinner (which I >didn't get). So what did you do about it? |
A little setback
Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 "cshenk" wrote: > > > > I remember when I was in the hospital after Charlotte was born by > > C-section. They forgot to feed me. No tests involved, just got > > missed 4 times. Twice on the first day then breakfast next day and > > lunch the one after that. Military (taxpayers) got billed for all > > 4 and was released day 5 and they billed tax payers for lunch and > > dinner (which I didn't get). > > So what did you do about it? Filed a complaint with the Navy and the hospital. I never heard more. |
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