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Julie Bove[_2_] 25-08-2020 02:59 AM

Can you smell when pasta is done?
 

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 16:17:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"graham" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 2020-08-23 11:29 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Democrats these days, at least in this area are left wing liberals who
>>>> are trying to convert us to socialism. They are anti capitalists. I
>>>> can't
>>>> speak for those in other areas.
>>>
>>> You wouldn't know a socialist if one bit you in the arse! Democrats are
>>> so
>>> far to the right of socialists, that Europeans see them as
>>> dyed-in-the-wool conservatives.

>>
>>Oh yeah? This woman ran as a Democrat twice and won. She's part of the
>>reason we had CHOP. She supported and helped them. We are trying to get
>>her
>>thrown out. She's bad news.
>>
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kshama_Sawant
>>
>>And what about Bernie Sanders? Another Socialist running as a Democrat.

>
> socialism
> a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates
> that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be
> owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
>
> In other words: individuals are not allowed to own companies,
> machines, distribution channels or anything else that's part of any
> kind of production.
>
> Is there any even slightly successful American politician who wants
> that? Does Bernie want that? Does Pocahontas want that?


I don't know about Pocahontas, but Sanders wants that. Yes.

This local woman who ran as a Democrat, said she will not stop until we are
a communist society. She is enabling the looters and rioters. She opened a
public building to let them in, and is leading them to other politician's
homes so they can vandalize them. There's a big push to stop her.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kshama_Sawant


Graham 25-08-2020 03:11 AM

Can you smell when pasta is done?
 
On 2020-08-24 7:37 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 15:44:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:43:26 -0700, Leo >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2020 Aug 24, , Bruce wrote
>>>>> (in >):
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yabbut, we don't have to agree about everything, but can we at least
>>>>>> agree that all y'all are right-wing and I, the enlightened one, and a
>>>>>> few other chosen ones, am left-wing?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm certainly right-wing. I can't speak for anyone else. If
>>>>> enlightenment
>>>>> is represented by a 100 Watt bulb, you would be a bright light,
>>>>> viewed at
>>>>> a
>>>>> hundred meters during a heavy snowstorm. Love ya, buddy!
>>>>
>>>> LOL. It's strange how this pandemic has become political. And it's not
>>>> only the right-wing who complain about their rights, their freedom and
>>>> their whatever. Parts of the anti-vaxxer, chemtrail, hippie crowd have
>>>> also been triggered and think that governments use covid to control
>>>> the people. I guess paranoia knows no political boundaries.
>>>
>>> It's very political in this country.Some people think the
>>> restrictions will
>>> be lifted once the election is over.

>>
>> do you even understand what the restrictions are for?Â* Why we have
>> them?

>
> Yes. It's a control thing by our Governor.


Gawd, woman! Haven't you heard? There's a pandemic raging that has
killed close to 180,000 people in the USA and you think it's a conspiracy?
You really are an idiot!

Bruce[_33_] 25-08-2020 03:19 AM

Can you smell when pasta is done?
 
On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 17:12:13 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 6:12:41 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > Gloves are a personal choice in every state. Besides, stupid, don't you
>> > think your hands are spreading germs when you pick up and item?

>>
>> If we pick up an item, we are supposed to buy it. We are not supposed to
>> look at something and then put it back. If we decide not to take an item ast
>> the check out stand. they can not put it back on the shrlf. I know people
>> violate. In fact they hsve proven that the virus is not likely spread from
>> touching things. Food handlers are required to wear gloves. Some of the
>> cashiers at Walmart wear them but they always have. It was never suggested
>> thst the rest of us wear them.
>> >>

>Yet a.n.o.t.h.e.r. l.i.e. Don't you get tired of just outright lying?
>You are going to burn in Hell with the number of lies you consistently
>tell.


If I believed in hell, I'd be more worried about you, considering how
you act here. What Julie says doesn't hurt anybody.

<snip>

>Do us all a favor, stick your head in your oven. Pronto.


Straight to hell.

[email protected][_2_] 25-08-2020 03:25 AM

Can you smell when pasta is done?
 
On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 8:34:13 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
>
> Although fancifully put, there *are* recommendations to not handle
> products if not sure you will buy them. If you need to check the
> nutrition label, supposed to minimally handle to turn it around.
>

No mandates here or anywhere that I've read of not handling packages.
Nor any of taking an item you've looked at to the cashier to return
to the shelf.
>
> *Preferred* in VA was to shop every 2 weeks if reasonably possible. No
> fines or checks on it and you could shop every day if you wanted to,
> but they *asked politely* that we minimize the number of trips per
> month. Recommended was every 2 weeks as optimal to still have fresh
> veggies and fruits.
>

Yeah, they suggested that at first but people found out they're not going
to die if they do shop for groceries every week. Nor are they dropping
like flies if they go to Home Depot, Lowe's, Target, Walmart, Dollar
Tree, etc.
>
> Julie exaggurates, but not as bad as some claim here.
>

Ju-Ju lies, flat out lies.
>
> Business *owners* here are subject to fines if a client is found
> inside, not wearing a mask. It's not all that enforced, but it's
> growing as folks start avoiding the 'mask free stores'. Some have
> literally lost their business (Bars that tried to stay open and were
> not abiding by the distancing). Those fines I am told can be 10,000$
> or more?
>

The only business owners here who are being fined are the bar owners.
Actually, a person can say they cannot wear a mask due to a medical
condition but the police are not allowed to question the person or
demand they wear one. ADA rules.

cshenk 25-08-2020 03:32 AM

Can you smell when pasta is done?
 
Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2020-08-24 8:03 a.m., Gary wrote:
> > Bruce wrote:

>
> > > Crap (fast) food will make you gain weight more than a bowl of
> > > quinoa with chia seeds and cranberries.

> >
> > I'm only talking calories vs calories. That's what matters
> > when it comes to gaining or losing weight. Equal calories
> > of either doesn't matter.
> >
> > You can gain or lose weight with either food.
> > Obviously, healthy calories are better.
> >

>
> I have been getting lots of dietery advicesthe last few days. It
> seems some of us who have heart issues get too much salt into our
> bodies and it sucks water. The water adds weight and volume. I have
> lost 8 pounds in three days.... all water.


It happens that way. Once you get a solid list with the actual
nutrition elements, if the list is too limited, I can toss you a link
to where you can look up alternatives that fit your palate better.

They won't list Bok Choy or Mustard greens for example but they
probably fit if you hanker for them.

Remember you still need to hydrate.

Hehehe Blue gatoraide can send you into a panic attack but it's just
the food dye that turns your toilet brilliant green.

Bruce[_33_] 25-08-2020 03:50 AM

Can you smell when pasta is done?
 
On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 18:09:44 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 12:15:55 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:43:13 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 9:58:46 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 12:28:16 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I don't think it's strange. Covid-19 just happened during a critical point in
>> >> >an election year. The 2020 election was always going to be a dirty,
>> >> >contentious, war.
>> >>
>> >> I wasn't just referring to the US.
>> >>
>> >> > It's a world war. The Ruskies want their man running the US because
>> >> > they love that America seems to in confused disarray and on the brink
>> >> > of a civil war. The Chinese are mostly looking for economic
>> >> > stability.
>> >>
>> >> If only that was all they wanted.
>> >
>> >What else do they want?

>>
>> World domination, and not just economical. Admiring the Chinese, like
>> you do, is like admiring the Nazis in the 30s.

>
>You don't know what I think of the Chinese. I do like to cook Chinese.


Me too.

>So what? I don't like to give out my personal feelings about things.


You could have fooled me.

> Mostly, I just stick with the facts and have been telling you
> numbskulls


Well, if that isn't a personal feeling.

> for a decade to never underestimate the Chinese.


I don't think anybody does. Their government has no scruples or
morals. That makes life a lot easier.

> All ya'alls just think they're funny lookin' people that talk funny.
> That's really dumb.


I don't think anybody thinks that. I sure don't.

Bruce[_33_] 25-08-2020 04:01 AM

Can you smell when pasta is done?
 
On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 18:43:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Bruce" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 15:44:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>It's very political in this country.Some people think the restrictions
>>>will
>>>be lifted once the election is over.

>>
>> But if the restrictions are lifted, covid goes rampant again. Every
>> country that tries to go back to normal, gets a new wave of it and
>> then has to lock down again. We need a vaccine.

>
>Ha There will not be an effective vaccine. I do understand the social
>distancing although I'm not sure that's effective. I don't understand why
>most large stores are allowed to be open, but smaller ones can not be. There
>is likely to be less customers in a small store. I don't understand why we
>could mow our own lawns, but not someone else's lawn for pay. That can be
>done totally contactless. I don't understand why nail salons and tattoo
>parlors are considered essential businesses. Too much of what they did here
>and are still doing, makes no sense.


You can always disagree about the details of the measures. For
instance, I don't understand why they'd say, at some stage, that you
can't throw a party for 30 people at your house, but 10 is ok. 30
infected people is worse than 10, but why would they even want 10?

But the measures do help. In Australia, Melbourne had a growing number
of cases, but after they introduced lockdown measures, the number went
down again and things are looking up.

Bruce[_33_] 25-08-2020 04:01 AM

Can you smell when pasta is done?
 
On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 18:37:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Bruce" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 15:42:11 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 17:16:24 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 8/24/2020 5:06 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Leo" > wrote in message
>>>>>> vidual.Net...
>>>>
>>>>>>> Aww, Julie, you just warmed the cockles of my heart. I wonder how
>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> people in Washington State feel the way you do?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quite a few! We've just had 4 families move out on this street within
>>>>>> 5
>>>>>> houses of me either direction and one more house up for sale. We have
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> call the cops almost daily for the drug deals. They might arrest them,
>>>>>> but they are back out on the streets the next day.
>>>>>
>>>>>I thought people weren't allowed to move? (oh wait, can't be evicted).
>>>>>You've always complained about drug dealers in your neighborhood.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if that's also a big problem in gated communities.
>>>
>>>Of course not. But I wouldn't live in a gated community. For one thing, I
>>>couldn't afford it. For another, you're not allowed much freedom.Too many
>>>rules to comply to.

>>
>> Yes, for one thing, they check how often you mow your grass.

>
>And what's in the grass. There is a community near here where you can't have
>clover.


Lol, that's sad.

cshenk 25-08-2020 04:38 AM

Can you smell when pasta is done?
 
wrote:

> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 8:34:13 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> >
> > Although fancifully put, there are recommendations to not handle
> > products if not sure you will buy them. If you need to check the
> > nutrition label, supposed to minimally handle to turn it around.
> >

> No mandates here or anywhere that I've read of not handling packages.
> Nor any of taking an item you've looked at to the cashier to return
> to the shelf.
> >
> > Preferred in VA was to shop every 2 weeks if reasonably possible.
> > No fines or checks on it and you could shop every day if you wanted
> > to, but they *asked politely* that we minimize the number of trips
> > per month. Recommended was every 2 weeks as optimal to still have
> > fresh veggies and fruits.
> >

> Yeah, they suggested that at first but people found out they're not
> going to die if they do shop for groceries every week. Nor are they
> dropping like flies if they go to Home Depot, Lowe's, Target,
> Walmart, Dollar Tree, etc.
> >
> > Julie exaggurates, but not as bad as some claim here.
> >

> Ju-Ju lies, flat out lies.
> >
> > Business owners here are subject to fines if a client is found
> > inside, not wearing a mask. It's not all that enforced, but it's
> > growing as folks start avoiding the 'mask free stores'. Some have
> > literally lost their business (Bars that tried to stay open and were
> > not abiding by the distancing). Those fines I am told can be
> > 10,000$ or more?
> >

> The only business owners here who are being fined are the bar owners.
> Actually, a person can say they cannot wear a mask due to a medical
> condition but the police are not allowed to question the person or
> demand they wear one. ADA rules.


Businesses are private property and can mandate 'no mask, no entry'.
ADA has no play this time, at least here. Same as 'no shoes, no shirt,
no entry'.

[email protected][_2_] 25-08-2020 04:44 AM

Can you smell when pasta is done?
 
On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 10:38:20 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
>
> wrote:
>
> > The only business owners here who are being fined are the bar owners.
> > Actually, a person can say they cannot wear a mask due to a medical
> > condition but the police are not allowed to question the person or
> > demand they wear one. ADA rules.

>
> Businesses are private property and can mandate 'no mask, no entry'.
> ADA has no play this time, at least here. Same as 'no shoes, no shirt,
> no entry'.
>

Here they cannot refuse entry if no mask is worn due to a medical condition.

U.S. Janet B. 25-08-2020 05:16 AM

Can you smell when pasta is done?
 
On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 18:37:55 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 15:44:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:43:26 -0700, Leo >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 2020 Aug 24, , Bruce wrote
>>>>>(in >):
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yabbut, we don't have to agree about everything, but can we at least
>>>>>> agree that all y'all are right-wing and I, the enlightened one, and a
>>>>>> few other chosen ones, am left-wing?
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm certainly right-wing. I can't speak for anyone else. If
>>>>>enlightenment
>>>>>is represented by a 100 Watt bulb, you would be a bright light, viewed
>>>>>at
>>>>>a
>>>>>hundred meters during a heavy snowstorm. Love ya, buddy!
>>>>
>>>> LOL. It's strange how this pandemic has become political. And it's not
>>>> only the right-wing who complain about their rights, their freedom and
>>>> their whatever. Parts of the anti-vaxxer, chemtrail, hippie crowd have
>>>> also been triggered and think that governments use covid to control
>>>> the people. I guess paranoia knows no political boundaries.
>>>
>>>It's very political in this country.Some people think the restrictions
>>>will
>>>be lifted once the election is over.

>>
>> do you even understand what the restrictions are for? Why we have
>> them?

>
>Yes. It's a control thing by our Governor.



Well, there you go.

U.S. Janet B. 25-08-2020 05:32 AM

Can you smell when pasta is done?
 
On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 18:59:12 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Bruce" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 16:17:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"graham" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On 2020-08-23 11:29 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Democrats these days, at least in this area are left wing liberals who
>>>>> are trying to convert us to socialism. They are anti capitalists. I
>>>>> can't
>>>>> speak for those in other areas.
>>>>
>>>> You wouldn't know a socialist if one bit you in the arse! Democrats are
>>>> so
>>>> far to the right of socialists, that Europeans see them as
>>>> dyed-in-the-wool conservatives.
>>>
>>>Oh yeah? This woman ran as a Democrat twice and won. She's part of the
>>>reason we had CHOP. She supported and helped them. We are trying to get
>>>her
>>>thrown out. She's bad news.
>>>
>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kshama_Sawant
>>>
>>>And what about Bernie Sanders? Another Socialist running as a Democrat.

>>
>> socialism
>> a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates
>> that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be
>> owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
>>
>> In other words: individuals are not allowed to own companies,
>> machines, distribution channels or anything else that's part of any
>> kind of production.
>>
>> Is there any even slightly successful American politician who wants
>> that? Does Bernie want that? Does Pocahontas want that?

>
>I don't know about Pocahontas, but Sanders wants that. Yes.
>
>This local woman who ran as a Democrat, said she will not stop until we are
>a communist society. She is enabling the looters and rioters. She opened a
>public building to let them in, and is leading them to other politician's
>homes so they can vandalize them. There's a big push to stop her.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kshama_Sawant


the article you provided indicated that she always ran as a Socialist.

Julie Bove[_2_] 25-08-2020 05:32 AM

Can you smell when pasta is done?
 

"graham" > wrote in message
...
> On 2020-08-24 7:37 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 15:44:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:43:26 -0700, Leo >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2020 Aug 24, , Bruce wrote
>>>>>> (in >):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yabbut, we don't have to agree about everything, but can we at least
>>>>>>> agree that all y'all are right-wing and I, the enlightened one, and
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> few other chosen ones, am left-wing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm certainly right-wing. I can't speak for anyone else. If
>>>>>> enlightenment
>>>>>> is represented by a 100 Watt bulb, you would be a bright light,
>>>>>> viewed at
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> hundred meters during a heavy snowstorm. Love ya, buddy!
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL. It's strange how this pandemic has become political. And it's not
>>>>> only the right-wing who complain about their rights, their freedom and
>>>>> their whatever. Parts of the anti-vaxxer, chemtrail, hippie crowd have
>>>>> also been triggered and think that governments use covid to control
>>>>> the people. I guess paranoia knows no political boundaries.
>>>>
>>>> It's very political in this country.Some people think the restrictions
>>>> will
>>>> be lifted once the election is over.
>>>
>>> do you even understand what the restrictions are for? Why we have
>>> them?

>>
>> Yes. It's a control thing by our Governor.

>
> Gawd, woman! Haven't you heard? There's a pandemic raging that has killed
> close to 180,000 people in the USA and you think it's a conspiracy?
> You really are an idiot!


There's a pandemic and it has killed people. Do I believe those numbers? No.
They've admitted that most of the people who died were listed as having it
if they were tested for it. They didn't bother to find the real cause of
death.

If they just were tested or even inquired about it at some Drs.. they were
listed as having it. We can't believe the numbers.

We've had other pandemics. Nobody was on lockdown there. Businesses were not
forced to close.

Keep buying into it. That's what they want.


Julie Bove[_2_] 25-08-2020 05:34 AM

Can you smell when pasta is done?
 

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 18:43:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 15:44:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>It's very political in this country.Some people think the restrictions
>>>>will
>>>>be lifted once the election is over.
>>>
>>> But if the restrictions are lifted, covid goes rampant again. Every
>>> country that tries to go back to normal, gets a new wave of it and
>>> then has to lock down again. We need a vaccine.

>>
>>Ha There will not be an effective vaccine. I do understand the social
>>distancing although I'm not sure that's effective. I don't understand why
>>most large stores are allowed to be open, but smaller ones can not be.
>>There
>>is likely to be less customers in a small store. I don't understand why we
>>could mow our own lawns, but not someone else's lawn for pay. That can be
>>done totally contactless. I don't understand why nail salons and tattoo
>>parlors are considered essential businesses. Too much of what they did
>>here
>>and are still doing, makes no sense.

>
> You can always disagree about the details of the measures. For
> instance, I don't understand why they'd say, at some stage, that you
> can't throw a party for 30 people at your house, but 10 is ok. 30
> infected people is worse than 10, but why would they even want 10?


Right. Or that people who live in your house are okay. But if they don't,
you need to stay away from them.
>
> But the measures do help. In Australia, Melbourne had a growing number
> of cases, but after they introduced lockdown measures, the number went
> down again and things are looking up.


Yes. I know. I have friends there.


Julie Bove[_2_] 25-08-2020 05:35 AM

Can you smell when pasta is done?
 

> wrote in message
...
> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 8:34:13 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
>>
>> Although fancifully put, there *are* recommendations to not handle
>> products if not sure you will buy them. If you need to check the
>> nutrition label, supposed to minimally handle to turn it around.
>>

> No mandates here or anywhere that I've read of not handling packages.
> Nor any of taking an item you've looked at to the cashier to return
> to the shelf.
>>
>> *Preferred* in VA was to shop every 2 weeks if reasonably possible. No
>> fines or checks on it and you could shop every day if you wanted to,
>> but they *asked politely* that we minimize the number of trips per
>> month. Recommended was every 2 weeks as optimal to still have fresh
>> veggies and fruits.
>>

> Yeah, they suggested that at first but people found out they're not going
> to die if they do shop for groceries every week. Nor are they dropping
> like flies if they go to Home Depot, Lowe's, Target, Walmart, Dollar
> Tree, etc.
>>
>> Julie exaggurates, but not as bad as some claim here.
>>

> Ju-Ju lies, flat out lies.
>>
>> Business *owners* here are subject to fines if a client is found
>> inside, not wearing a mask. It's not all that enforced, but it's
>> growing as folks start avoiding the 'mask free stores'. Some have
>> literally lost their business (Bars that tried to stay open and were
>> not abiding by the distancing). Those fines I am told can be 10,000$
>> or more?
>>

> The only business owners here who are being fined are the bar owners.
> Actually, a person can say they cannot wear a mask due to a medical
> condition but the police are not allowed to question the person or
> demand they wear one. ADA rules.


So... Every state is different. And here, every county is different.


Bruce[_33_] 25-08-2020 06:17 AM

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On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 21:34:10 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Bruce" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 18:43:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>Ha There will not be an effective vaccine. I do understand the social
>>>distancing although I'm not sure that's effective. I don't understand why
>>>most large stores are allowed to be open, but smaller ones can not be.
>>>There
>>>is likely to be less customers in a small store. I don't understand why we
>>>could mow our own lawns, but not someone else's lawn for pay. That can be
>>>done totally contactless. I don't understand why nail salons and tattoo
>>>parlors are considered essential businesses. Too much of what they did
>>>here
>>>and are still doing, makes no sense.

>>
>> You can always disagree about the details of the measures. For
>> instance, I don't understand why they'd say, at some stage, that you
>> can't throw a party for 30 people at your house, but 10 is ok. 30
>> infected people is worse than 10, but why would they even want 10?

>
>Right. Or that people who live in your house are okay. But if they don't,
>you need to stay away from them.


You can't ask people to stay away from people they live in one house
with, but you can ask them to keep a distance from everybody else.

U.S. Janet B. 25-08-2020 06:59 AM

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On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 21:32:12 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

snip
>
>There's a pandemic and it has killed people. Do I believe those numbers? No.
>They've admitted that most of the people who died were listed as having it
>if they were tested for it. They didn't bother to find the real cause of
>death.
>
>If they just were tested or even inquired about it at some Drs.. they were
>listed as having it. We can't believe the numbers.
>
>We've had other pandemics. Nobody was on lockdown there. Businesses were not
>forced to close.
>
>Keep buying into it. That's what they want.


I think you should move about freely in public and test your
hypothesis

dsi1[_2_] 25-08-2020 07:20 AM

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On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 3:51:14 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 17:10:26 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On 8/24/2020 1:36 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 22:02:12 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
> >>>> ...
> >>>>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 22:07:26 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> snip
> >>>>> Our diet has changed. Because I'm only supposed to shop
> >>>>>> once every two weeks,
> >>>>> snip
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We covered your "I'm only supposed to shop
> >>>>> once every two weeks" here, in rfc, many months ago. You may shop
> >>>>> whenever you want to, no one is checking on you. I know that you are
> >>>>> going out of your home for other reasons more than once every two
> >>>>> weeks. You don't get it -- it is advised that you limit your travel
> >>>>> from one place to another unless necessary. It has nothing to do with
> >>>>> food shopping.
> >>>>
> >>>> We are supposed to do the right thing. *I* eo not feel free to shop
> >>>> whenever
> >>>> I want .Do you listen to Governor Inslee? I can't see why you would as
> >>>> he's
> >>>> not your Governor. I don't know what you asre told to do or not to do
> >>>> where
> >>>> you live. I don't keep up with every state. I have no reason to.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Julie, you have the same shopping opportunities that others in the
> >>>>> Pacific Northwest do. There is no food shortage now. You can find
> >>>>> all varieties of raw, fresh meat and all goods now just as you could
> >>>>> before Covid-19.
> >>>>
> >>>> Not at the stores I shop at. I know what's there and what's not. I
> >>>> don't eat
> >>>> ham or pork unless it's bacon. I don't eat meat with salt water added.
> >>>> I
> >>>> won't buy giant packages. You don't know what's in my stores. You don't
> >>>> shop
> >>>> here!
> >>>>
> >>>> And no I *can't* find all goods. The Walmart Neighborhood Market had no
> >>>> laundry soap or cleaning products of any kind except for toilet bowl
> >>>> and
> >>>> glass cleaner the last time I was there. They had no one ply toilet
> >>>> paper.
> >>>> I can only use one ply. Anything else clogs the toilet.
> >>>> They are often out of the canned goods I want, the pasta sauce, no
> >>>> paper
> >>>> towels of any kind. And yes, they are still rationing paper and
> >>>> cleaning
> >>>> products.
> >>>>
> >>>>> You are sounding silly
> >>>>
> >>>> No. You are sounding silly as you seem to think every city in the PNW
> >>>> is the
> >>>> same. They're not.
> >>>
> >>> I am sorry for you.
> >>>
> >>She creates her own problems.
> >>
> >>Jill

> >
> > the only place her problems exist is in her own mind as she scrambles
> > to fix any loopholes in her insurmountable woes.
> > Janet US

>
> You people are pathetic. Get a life!


Get a life? Get a life? I love "Get a life!!!"

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmagzq

Ophelia[_7_] 25-08-2020 10:41 AM

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"graham" wrote in message ...

On 2020-08-23 11:36 p.m., U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 22:02:12 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 22:07:26 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> snip
>>> Our diet has changed. Because I'm only supposed to shop
>>>> once every two weeks,
>>> snip
>>>
>>> We covered your "I'm only supposed to shop
>>> once every two weeks" here, in rfc, many months ago. You may shop
>>> whenever you want to, no one is checking on you. I know that you are
>>> going out of your home for other reasons more than once every two
>>> weeks. You don't get it -- it is advised that you limit your travel
>>> from one place to another unless necessary. It has nothing to do with
>>> food shopping.

>>
>> We are supposed to do the right thing. *I* eo not feel free to shop
>> whenever
>> I want.Do you listen to Governor Inslee? I can't see why you would as
>> he's
>> not your Governor. I don't know what you asre told to do or not to do
>> where
>> you live. I don't keep up with every state. I have no reason to.
>>
>>> Julie, you have the same shopping opportunities that others in the
>>> Pacific Northwest do. There is no food shortage now. You can find
>>> all varieties of raw, fresh meat and all goods now just as you could
>>> before Covid-19.

>>
>> Not at the stores I shop at. I know what's there and what's not. I don't
>> eat
>> ham or pork unless it's bacon. I don't eat meat with salt water added. I
>> won't buy giant packages. You don't know what's in my stores. You don't
>> shop
>> here!
>>
>> And no I *can't* find all goods. The Walmart Neighborhood Market had no
>> laundry soap or cleaning products of any kind except for toilet bowl and
>> glass cleaner the last time I was there. They had no one ply toilet
>> paper.
>> I can only use one ply. Anything else clogs the toilet.
>> They are often out of the canned goods I want, the pasta sauce, no paper
>> towels of any kind. And yes, they are still rationing paper and cleaning
>> products.
>>
>>> You are sounding silly

>>
>> No. You are sounding silly as you seem to think every city in the PNW is
>> the
>> same. They're not.

>
> I am sorry for you.
>

I think that we're all sorry for her!

=====

Speak for yourself! You know what, Graham? I have never seen you speak
to her in a nice manner for say anything but bitching from you!!

What happened to you???? You used to be a lovely man and I am horribly
disappointed in you now!

I think I will put you in my bin. I can't bear to see this horrible
change in you!





Ophelia[_7_] 25-08-2020 10:47 AM

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"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
...

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 17:10:26 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 8/24/2020 1:36 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 22:02:12 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 22:07:26 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> snip
>>>> Our diet has changed. Because I'm only supposed to shop
>>>>> once every two weeks,
>>>> snip
>>>>
>>>> We covered your "I'm only supposed to shop
>>>> once every two weeks" here, in rfc, many months ago. You may shop
>>>> whenever you want to, no one is checking on you. I know that you are
>>>> going out of your home for other reasons more than once every two
>>>> weeks. You don't get it -- it is advised that you limit your travel
>>>> from one place to another unless necessary. It has nothing to do with
>>>> food shopping.
>>>
>>> We are supposed to do the right thing. *I* eo not feel free to shop
>>> whenever
>>> I want .Do you listen to Governor Inslee? I can't see why you would as
>>> he's
>>> not your Governor. I don't know what you asre told to do or not to do
>>> where
>>> you live. I don't keep up with every state. I have no reason to.
>>>
>>>> Julie, you have the same shopping opportunities that others in the
>>>> Pacific Northwest do. There is no food shortage now. You can find
>>>> all varieties of raw, fresh meat and all goods now just as you could
>>>> before Covid-19.
>>>
>>> Not at the stores I shop at. I know what's there and what's not. I don't
>>> eat
>>> ham or pork unless it's bacon. I don't eat meat with salt water added. I
>>> won't buy giant packages. You don't know what's in my stores. You don't
>>> shop
>>> here!
>>>
>>> And no I *can't* find all goods. The Walmart Neighborhood Market had no
>>> laundry soap or cleaning products of any kind except for toilet bowl and
>>> glass cleaner the last time I was there. They had no one ply toilet
>>> paper.
>>> I can only use one ply. Anything else clogs the toilet.
>>> They are often out of the canned goods I want, the pasta sauce, no paper
>>> towels of any kind. And yes, they are still rationing paper and cleaning
>>> products.
>>>
>>>> You are sounding silly
>>>
>>> No. You are sounding silly as you seem to think every city in the PNW is
>>> the
>>> same. They're not.

>>
>> I am sorry for you.
>>

>She creates her own problems.
>
>Jill


the only place her problems exist is in her own mind as she scrambles
to fix any loopholes in her insurmountable woes.
Janet US

====

Why does it bother you so much. You have changed, and not for the
better!!!

It seems that Julie and John are the constant targets! If they had done
something bad to you I could understand it, but I don't think so.

You could just stop reading them or is that beyond your control? And I
thought you were one of the clever ones here and I have always respected
you:(

Yes, I know others do it too, but I they are dim and I expect it from
them ... but not you!!!


Cindy Hamilton[_2_] 25-08-2020 10:59 AM

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On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 6:44:21 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:43:26 -0700, Leo >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On 2020 Aug 24, , Bruce wrote
> >>(in >):
> >>
> >>> Yabbut, we don't have to agree about everything, but can we at least
> >>> agree that all y'all are right-wing and I, the enlightened one, and a
> >>> few other chosen ones, am left-wing?
> >>
> >>Im certainly right-wing. I cant speak for anyone else.. If enlightenment
> >>is represented by a 100 Watt bulb, you would be a bright light, viewed at
> >>a
> >>hundred meters during a heavy snowstorm. Love ya, buddy!

> >
> > LOL. It's strange how this pandemic has become political. And it's not
> > only the right-wing who complain about their rights, their freedom and
> > their whatever. Parts of the anti-vaxxer, chemtrail, hippie crowd have
> > also been triggered and think that governments use covid to control
> > the people. I guess paranoia knows no political boundaries.

> It's very political in this country.Some people think the restrictions will
> be lifted once the election is over.


Some people think the world is flat.
Some people think the moon landing was faked.
Some people think a sinister left-wing conspiracy extracts fear from children
and makes a drug out of it.

Cindy Hamilton

Ophelia[_7_] 25-08-2020 11:00 AM

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"Gary" wrote in message ...

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Gloves? We're not supposed to wear gloves! Gloves pick up germs and spread
> them.


So do your fingers. I do agree
that gloves are worthless but wearing them has never been
recommended either. Just wash your hands after being out
in public before touching your eyes, nose, mouth.
>
> I have seen enough evidence to know that the masks are worthless when it
> comes to Covid.


No you haven't.
Even the best N95 masks are not fail safe. They were never
intended to protect from a virus. However, they certainly
do help so no need to shun them. They are not worthless.
It's the best defense we have right now.

====

I read that they are not to protect us, but to protect others
from us ! Who knows? I don't, but I always wear mine anyway!



Cindy Hamilton[_2_] 25-08-2020 11:04 AM

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On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 7:31:34 PM UTC-4, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 8/24/2020 4:01 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 15:44:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:43:26 -0700, Leo >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 2020 Aug 24, , Bruce wrote
> >>>> (in >):
> >>>>
> >>>>> Yabbut, we don't have to agree about everything, but can we at least
> >>>>> agree that all y'all are right-wing and I, the enlightened one, and a
> >>>>> few other chosen ones, am left-wing?
> >>>>
> >>>> Im certainly right-wing. I cant speak for anyone else. If enlightenment
> >>>> is represented by a 100 Watt bulb, you would be a bright light, viewed at
> >>>> a
> >>>> hundred meters during a heavy snowstorm. Love ya, buddy!
> >>>
> >>> LOL. It's strange how this pandemic has become political. And it's not
> >>> only the right-wing who complain about their rights, their freedom and
> >>> their whatever. Parts of the anti-vaxxer, chemtrail, hippie crowd have
> >>> also been triggered and think that governments use covid to control
> >>> the people. I guess paranoia knows no political boundaries.
> >>
> >> It's very political in this country.Some people think the restrictions will
> >> be lifted once the election is over.

> >
> > But if the restrictions are lifted, covid goes rampant again. Every
> > country that tries to go back to normal, gets a new wave of it and
> > then has to lock down again. We need a vaccine.
> >

> I haven't seen Covid going "rampant" in the US, except possibly in NYC
> at the outset. Cases does not equate to rampant.
>
> Need herd immunity. We are ruining the economy and people lives to try
> to stamp out every last infection, and that was never the goal.
>
> Need to replace the narrow minded immunologist with an honest to
> goodness epidemiologist.
>
> Need to get the news media to STFU if they don't have any FACTS to provide.


I'm with you on that last one. I'd also like to prohibit journalists from interviewing
other journalists. It happens with every crisis before they have any real information
and after the news cycle is pretty much spun out.

"So, Bob, what can you tell us about the situation on the ground there in East Snake Navel?"
"Not much, Carol. The police are still keeping us journalists outside the barricades."

Cindy Hamilton

Bruce[_33_] 25-08-2020 12:31 PM

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On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 02:59:02 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 6:44:21 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > LOL. It's strange how this pandemic has become political. And it's not
>> > only the right-wing who complain about their rights, their freedom and
>> > their whatever. Parts of the anti-vaxxer, chemtrail, hippie crowd have
>> > also been triggered and think that governments use covid to control
>> > the people. I guess paranoia knows no political boundaries.

>> It's very political in this country.Some people think the restrictions will
>> be lifted once the election is over.

>
>Some people think the world is flat.
>Some people think the moon landing was faked.


That's true, though. There's an empty coca cola can in the background
in the footage of the moon landing.

>Some people think a sinister left-wing conspiracy extracts fear from children
>and makes a drug out of it.


Renegade mountain hippies think it's the right-wing doing that when
they take a break from creating chemtrails.

Dave Smith[_1_] 25-08-2020 12:38 PM

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On 2020-08-24 10:11 p.m., graham wrote:
> On 2020-08-24 7:37 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:


>>> do you even understand what the restrictions are for?Â* Why we have
>>> them?

>>
>> Yes. It's a control thing by our Governor.

>
> Gawd, woman! Haven't you heard? There's a pandemic raging that has
> killed close to 180,000 people in the USA and you think it's a conspiracy?
> You really are an idiot!


We have known that for years. She keeps giving us more evidence.

Bruce[_33_] 25-08-2020 12:48 PM

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On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 07:38:01 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2020-08-24 10:11 p.m., graham wrote:
>> On 2020-08-24 7:37 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:

>
>>>> do you even understand what the restrictions are for?Â* Why we have
>>>> them?
>>>
>>> Yes. It's a control thing by our Governor.

>>
>> Gawd, woman! Haven't you heard? There's a pandemic raging that has
>> killed close to 180,000 people in the USA and you think it's a conspiracy?
>> You really are an idiot!

>
>We have known that for years. She keeps giving us more evidence.


One would think you had something more important on your mind than
your usual petty bitching. But noooooo...

Gary 25-08-2020 01:04 PM

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Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Bruce" wrote:


> > "Julie Bove" wrote:
> >> But I wouldn't live in a gated community. For one thing, I
> >>couldn't afford it. For another, you're not allowed much freedom.Too many
> >>rules to comply to.

> >
> > Yes, for one thing, they check how often you mow your grass.

>
> And what's in the grass. There is a community near here where you can't have
> clover.


No clover allowed in yards? Now that's funny.
I guess they have no bees either. Honey bees and bumble kids
love to collect clover pollen.

That must be a pollen thing...nothing to do with any virus.

How does one get rid of clover in their yard? Is that on
the weed list of Roundup weed killer?

Gary 25-08-2020 01:06 PM

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Bruce wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> >Trump is not all that, but he also isn't Biden. Once again,
> >we have a choice of the lesser of two evils.

>
> Trump is a narcissistic moron.


I guess it's true, "takes one to know one."
You also just described yourself, pal.

> I'd vote for Bush or Reagan if they
> were up against Trump.


So would I.

> What did I just say?


For a moment there, I thought there was hope for you yet.
Reagan won a landslide victory in 1980, proved himself to
be a good and effective president, then nailed the 1994
re-election. IMO, the best one in my lifetime.

Funny how Biden is now seen as the great savior to the
democrats. They didn't like him all that much 4 years
ago and nominated Hillary of all people.

Anyway, Biden (very predictably) chose a black woman
as a running mate. Good political move.

Still sad to me that none of the 3rd party candidates get
news coverage at all and aren't even invited to the
final debates any more.

Cindy Hamilton[_2_] 25-08-2020 01:41 PM

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On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 8:04:54 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > "Bruce" wrote:
> > > "Julie Bove" wrote:
> > >> But I wouldn't live in a gated community. For one thing, I
> > >>couldn't afford it. For another, you're not allowed much freedom.Too many
> > >>rules to comply to.
> > >
> > > Yes, for one thing, they check how often you mow your grass.

> >
> > And what's in the grass. There is a community near here where you can't have
> > clover.

> No clover allowed in yards? Now that's funny.
> I guess they have no bees either. Honey bees and bumble kids
> love to collect clover pollen.
>
> That must be a pollen thing...nothing to do with any virus.
>
> How does one get rid of clover in their yard? Is that on
> the weed list of Roundup weed killer?


Roundup would also kill any grass. The usual broadleaf weed killers would do it.
Those "weed and feed" chemicals that Chemlawn keeps offering to put on
my yard.

However, clover is a sign that your soil is poor. Clover also fixes nitrogen, thus
improving the soil. Before chemical fertilizers, clover was prized for this ability.

Cindy Hamilton

Graham 25-08-2020 02:42 PM

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On 2020-08-24 11:59 p.m., U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 21:32:12 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> snip
>>
>> There's a pandemic and it has killed people. Do I believe those numbers? No.
>> They've admitted that most of the people who died were listed as having it
>> if they were tested for it. They didn't bother to find the real cause of
>> death.
>>
>> If they just were tested or even inquired about it at some Drs.. they were
>> listed as having it. We can't believe the numbers.
>>
>> We've had other pandemics. Nobody was on lockdown there. Businesses were not
>> forced to close.
>>
>> Keep buying into it. That's what they want.

>
> I think you should move about freely in public and test your
> hypothesis
>

Without a mask, of course!

Ed Pawlowski[_5_] 25-08-2020 03:13 PM

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On 8/25/2020 12:32 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 18:59:12 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:



>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kshama_Sawant
>>>>
>>>> And what about Bernie Sanders? Another Socialist running as a Democrat.
>>>
>>> socialism
>>> a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates
>>> that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be
>>> owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
>>>
>>> In other words: individuals are not allowed to own companies,
>>> machines, distribution channels or anything else that's part of any
>>> kind of production.
>>>
>>> Is there any even slightly successful American politician who wants
>>> that? Does Bernie want that? Does Pocahontas want that?

>>
>> I don't know about Pocahontas, but Sanders wants that. Yes.
>>
>> This local woman who ran as a Democrat, said she will not stop until we are
>> a communist society. She is enabling the looters and rioters. She opened a
>> public building to let them in, and is leading them to other politician's
>> homes so they can vandalize them. There's a big push to stop her.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kshama_Sawant

>
> the article you provided indicated that she always ran as a Socialist.
>


Yes, and she is way left of Bernie.

Dave Smith[_1_] 25-08-2020 03:38 PM

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On 2020-08-25 8:41 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> How does one get rid of clover in their yard? Is that on
>> the weed list of Roundup weed killer?

>
> Roundup would also kill any grass. The usual broadleaf weed killers would do it.
> Those "weed and feed" chemicals that Chemlawn keeps offering to put on
> my yard.
>
> However, clover is a sign that your soil is poor. Clover also fixes nitrogen, thus
> improving the soil. Before chemical fertilizers, clover was prized for this ability.
>


A much cheaper treatment is Borax. Get a half dozen boxes, available in
the laundry detergeent department of the grocery store. Scatter it
across the lawn. if clover is still there, apply a second layer. You
won't have clover there for at lest 10 years.



Cindy Hamilton[_2_] 25-08-2020 03:47 PM

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On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 10:38:42 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-08-25 8:41 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> >> How does one get rid of clover in their yard? Is that on
> >> the weed list of Roundup weed killer?

> >
> > Roundup would also kill any grass. The usual broadleaf weed killers would do it.
> > Those "weed and feed" chemicals that Chemlawn keeps offering to put on
> > my yard.
> >
> > However, clover is a sign that your soil is poor. Clover also fixes nitrogen, thus
> > improving the soil. Before chemical fertilizers, clover was prized for this ability.
> >

> A much cheaper treatment is Borax. Get a half dozen boxes, available in
> the laundry detergeent department of the grocery store. Scatter it
> across the lawn. if clover is still there, apply a second layer. You
> won't have clover there for at lest 10 years.


Thanks. Now I know what to avoid doing. If my entire yard were clover (or creeping
Charlie), I would be very happy.

If I didn't mow, though, it would be a hellscape of thistles and black walnut trees.

Cindy Hamilton

Gary 25-08-2020 03:53 PM

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Gary wrote:
>
> Reagan won a landslide victory in 1980, proved himself to
> be a good and effective president, then nailed the 1994
> re-election.


oops! An obvious typo. Meant 1984

tert in seattle 25-08-2020 04:17 PM

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writes:

>>> Yes. It's a control thing by our Governor.

>>
>> Gawd, woman! Haven't you heard? There's a pandemic raging that has killed
>> close to 180,000 people in the USA and you think it's a conspiracy?
>> You really are an idiot!

>
>There's a pandemic and it has killed people. Do I believe those numbers? No.
>They've admitted that most of the people who died were listed as having it
>if they were tested for it. They didn't bother to find the real cause of
>death.
>
>If they just were tested or even inquired about it at some Drs.. they were
>listed as having it. We can't believe the numbers.
>
>We've had other pandemics. Nobody was on lockdown there. Businesses were not
>forced to close.
>
>Keep buying into it. That's what they want.


Of course you are wrong about how cause of death is determined. There
are plenty of issues with death statistics but the main issue with
COVID-19 death reporting is that it is mostly likely UNDERreported
in the U.S. Belgium has a more responsible approach.

Julie, please read this page carefully. There are a lot of words and it
may be difficult to understand, but there is a graph at the bottom of
the page that shows clearly what all the words are saying.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ess_deaths.htm

The idea is that there is a certain number of deaths that can be
expected from all causes. This number is remarkably stable (like
toilet paper consumption) and you can see from the graph that it
has some annual patterns where the death rate is higher in winter
than summer.

You will see from the graph that starting in the week ending March 28,
2020, the observed number of deaths exceeded the expected number of
deaths. This has been the case for every week since March 28.

This doesn't say that all of the excess deaths are from COVID-19 but
that is the most likely suspect in the absence of any other known cause.

I will suspect you will find some paranoid reason to reject this
explanation. I'm not sure what harm all of you snowflakes find in
wearing a mask. I can understand why a 3-year-old might not get it,
but adults should know better.


Gary 25-08-2020 04:20 PM

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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Dave Smith wrote:
> > A much cheaper treatment is Borax. Get a half dozen boxes, available in
> > the laundry detergeent department of the grocery store. Scatter it
> > across the lawn. if clover is still there, apply a second layer. You
> > won't have clover there for at lest 10 years.

>
> Thanks. Now I know what to avoid doing. If my entire yard were clover (or creeping
> Charlie), I would be very happy.


I had a yard full of clover and regular grass mixed. It looked
very nice and soft to walk on barefoot. Why would anyone want
to get rid of clover???

Gary 25-08-2020 04:26 PM

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cshenk wrote:
> Hehehe Blue gatoraide can send you into a panic attack but it's just
> the food dye that turns your toilet brilliant green.


That really did happen to me once but not from Gatorade.

One day at the grocery store, I saw a large box of
Froot Loops cereal on sale. Hadn't had that in like
30 years and (impulse buy) I bought one. It just
sounded good. Also bought fresh milk.

Anyway, once at home, I had large bowl for lunch, my first
meal of the day. So tasty, I had another. Later in the
day, had one for a snack...then dinner later and on and on.

Ended up eating the entire box that day and nothing else.
That got the odd craving out of my system. Haven't had any
since then.

Next morning came my regular morning poop.
Didn't consider what I had eaten the day before but I
totally freaked out when my toilet had very bright green
turds...almost glow in the dark green ones.

WTH? I panicked and ran right to the computer and googled
"green feces." Big mistake. I read about some rare and
deadly condition that caused that.

I was in a panic all morning until it dawned on me about
all the dyes in Fruit Loops. Maybe that's it? I still worried
until the next morning until "things" all back to normal brown
again. WHEW!

Ophelia[_7_] 25-08-2020 05:03 PM

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"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...


"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 16:17:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"graham" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 2020-08-23 11:29 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Democrats these days, at least in this area are left wing liberals who
>>>> are trying to convert us to socialism. They are anti capitalists. I
>>>> can't
>>>> speak for those in other areas.
>>>
>>> You wouldn't know a socialist if one bit you in the arse! Democrats are
>>> so
>>> far to the right of socialists, that Europeans see them as
>>> dyed-in-the-wool conservatives.

>>
>>Oh yeah? This woman ran as a Democrat twice and won. She's part of the
>>reason we had CHOP. She supported and helped them. We are trying to get
>>her
>>thrown out. She's bad news.
>>
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kshama_Sawant
>>
>>And what about Bernie Sanders? Another Socialist running as a Democrat.

>
> socialism
> a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates
> that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be
> owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
>
> In other words: individuals are not allowed to own companies,
> machines, distribution channels or anything else that's part of any
> kind of production.
>
> Is there any even slightly successful American politician who wants
> that? Does Bernie want that? Does Pocahontas want that?


I don't know about Pocahontas, but Sanders wants that. Yes.

This local woman who ran as a Democrat, said she will not stop until we are
a communist society. She is enabling the looters and rioters. She opened a
public building to let them in, and is leading them to other politician's
homes so they can vandalize them. There's a big push to stop her.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kshama_Sawant

===

My goodness!!!!



Ophelia[_7_] 25-08-2020 05:12 PM

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"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 21:34:10 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Bruce" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 18:43:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>Ha There will not be an effective vaccine. I do understand the social
>>>distancing although I'm not sure that's effective. I don't understand why
>>>most large stores are allowed to be open, but smaller ones can not be.
>>>There
>>>is likely to be less customers in a small store. I don't understand why
>>>we
>>>could mow our own lawns, but not someone else's lawn for pay. That can be
>>>done totally contactless. I don't understand why nail salons and tattoo
>>>parlors are considered essential businesses. Too much of what they did
>>>here
>>>and are still doing, makes no sense.

>>
>> You can always disagree about the details of the measures. For
>> instance, I don't understand why they'd say, at some stage, that you
>> can't throw a party for 30 people at your house, but 10 is ok. 30
>> infected people is worse than 10, but why would they even want 10?

>
>Right. Or that people who live in your house are okay. But if they don't,
>you need to stay away from them.


You can't ask people to stay away from people they live in one house
with, but you can ask them to keep a distance from everybody else.

====

Here, along with many other oddities, no one is allowed in a pub garden
but not in a pub etc etc etc!



Gary 25-08-2020 05:19 PM

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Sheldon Martin wrote:
>


> Here between the
> two of us we barely go through a quart jar of mayo in a year.


One quart per year for 2 people? Why bother?
I use 5-6 quarts per year just for me.
Healthy (or healthful)? Ask me if I care.

> It's
> easy to prepare a healthful mayo substitute oneself from a little
> EVOO, plain yogurt, lemon juice, and spices...


You've never made that. If you did, you would never say it's
a good substitute.


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