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Read this last week and found it interesting:
"High fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is a nutritive sweetener similar to table sugar (sucrose). It's used by the food industry because of it's many qualities, including stability, broad functionability and abundant raw material in the (USA) Midwest. As a rise in obesity coincided with it's introduction, some people believed it must be the cause. But HFCS was soon shown to have no means of causing obesity that sucrose doesn't have, and their calories are the same. If it were removed from the market, consumers would simply find products more expensive." |
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On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 6:05:13 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> Read this last week and found it interesting: > > "High fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is a nutritive sweetener similar > to table sugar (sucrose). It's used by the food industry because > of it's many qualities, including stability, broad > functionability and abundant raw material in the (USA) Midwest. > As a rise in obesity coincided with it's introduction, some > people believed it must be the cause. > > But HFCS was soon shown to have no means of causing obesity that > sucrose doesn't have, and their calories are the same. If it were > removed from the market, consumers would simply find products > more expensive." It's widespread use in the food industry is simply because it's cheap. Americans are fat simply because food is cheap. It's all so very simple. :) |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 09:45:15 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote: >On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 6:05:13 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: >> Read this last week and found it interesting: >> >> "High fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is a nutritive sweetener similar >> to table sugar (sucrose). It's used by the food industry because >> of it's many qualities, including stability, broad >> functionability and abundant raw material in the (USA) Midwest. >> As a rise in obesity coincided with it's introduction, some >> people believed it must be the cause. >> >> But HFCS was soon shown to have no means of causing obesity that >> sucrose doesn't have, and their calories are the same. If it were >> removed from the market, consumers would simply find products >> more expensive." > >It's widespread use in the food industry is simply because it's cheap. Americans are fat simply because food is cheap. It's all so very simple. :) On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet something-or-other with a straw. |
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On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 1:17:19 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 09:45:15 -0800 (PST), dsi1 > > wrote: > > >On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 6:05:13 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: > >> Read this last week and found it interesting: > >> > >> "High fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is a nutritive sweetener similar > >> to table sugar (sucrose). It's used by the food industry because > >> of it's many qualities, including stability, broad > >> functionability and abundant raw material in the (USA) Midwest. > >> As a rise in obesity coincided with it's introduction, some > >> people believed it must be the cause. > >> > >> But HFCS was soon shown to have no means of causing obesity that > >> sucrose doesn't have, and their calories are the same. If it were > >> removed from the market, consumers would simply find products > >> more expensive." > > > >It's widespread use in the food industry is simply because it's cheap. Americans are fat simply because food is cheap. It's all so very simple. :) > > On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was > expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet > something-or-other with a straw. How unfortunate she did not research the local customs. Imagine the disappointment of a Texan visiting England and receiving a cup of hot tea. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 8:17:19 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 09:45:15 -0800 (PST), dsi1 > > wrote: > > >On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 6:05:13 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: > >> Read this last week and found it interesting: > >> > >> "High fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is a nutritive sweetener similar > >> to table sugar (sucrose). It's used by the food industry because > >> of it's many qualities, including stability, broad > >> functionability and abundant raw material in the (USA) Midwest. > >> As a rise in obesity coincided with it's introduction, some > >> people believed it must be the cause. > >> > >> But HFCS was soon shown to have no means of causing obesity that > >> sucrose doesn't have, and their calories are the same. If it were > >> removed from the market, consumers would simply find products > >> more expensive." > > > >It's widespread use in the food industry is simply because it's cheap. Americans are fat simply because food is cheap. It's all so very simple. :) > > On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was > expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet > something-or-other with a straw. What a shock that must have been. OTOH, you shouldn't expect to get the same stuff when ordering in a different land. You got to just eat like the locals do and shut the hell up. I once saw a couple dressed up like cowboys order some chili in a restaurant and boy, were they upset when they got their food! People should never order chili when they're outside of their country - especially if that country is Texas. That's just common sense. |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:21:31 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 1:17:19 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 09:45:15 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >> > wrote: >> >> >On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 6:05:13 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: >> >> Read this last week and found it interesting: >> >> >> >> "High fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is a nutritive sweetener similar >> >> to table sugar (sucrose). It's used by the food industry because >> >> of it's many qualities, including stability, broad >> >> functionability and abundant raw material in the (USA) Midwest. >> >> As a rise in obesity coincided with it's introduction, some >> >> people believed it must be the cause. >> >> >> >> But HFCS was soon shown to have no means of causing obesity that >> >> sucrose doesn't have, and their calories are the same. If it were >> >> removed from the market, consumers would simply find products >> >> more expensive." >> > >> >It's widespread use in the food industry is simply because it's cheap. Americans are fat simply because food is cheap. It's all so very simple. :) >> >> On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was >> expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet >> something-or-other with a straw. > >How unfortunate she did not research the local customs. Imagine the >disappointment of a Texan visiting England and receiving a cup of hot tea. There's nothing wrong with differences in local customs, of course. But that little scene was an indication of where all the diabetes in the US comes from. Too much of everything that's unhealthy. |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:29:46 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote: >On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 8:17:19 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: >> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 09:45:15 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >> > wrote: >> >> >It's widespread use in the food industry is simply because it's cheap. Americans are fat simply because food is cheap. It's all so very simple. :) >> >> On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was >> expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet >> something-or-other with a straw. > >What a shock that must have been. OTOH, you shouldn't expect to get the same stuff when ordering in a different land. You got to just eat like the locals do and shut the hell up. True. I just didn't realize "tea" means sweet, cold and a lot of it to y'all. And I don't understand why people don't change their ways knowing that half the country has diabetes. You're like lemmings, cluelessly wobbling towards the abyss. |
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On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 9:00:21 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:29:46 -0800 (PST), dsi1 > > wrote: > > >On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 8:17:19 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > >> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 09:45:15 -0800 (PST), dsi1 > >> > wrote: > >> > >> >It's widespread use in the food industry is simply because it's cheap. Americans are fat simply because food is cheap. It's all so very simple. :) > >> > >> On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was > >> expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet > >> something-or-other with a straw. > > > >What a shock that must have been. OTOH, you shouldn't expect to get the same stuff when ordering in a different land. You got to just eat like the locals do and shut the hell up. > > True. I just didn't realize "tea" means sweet, cold and a lot of it to > y'all. And I don't understand why people don't change their ways > knowing that half the country has diabetes. You're like lemmings, > cluelessly wobbling towards the abyss. Not all y'all but some of y'all. On some parts of the US, it does indeed mean iced, sweetened, tea. Over here, it means either hot or iced. You'll be asked which one you want. We also drink Asian tea which is hot and non-sweetened. |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 11:10:37 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote: >On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 9:00:21 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: >> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:29:46 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >> > wrote: >> >> >On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 8:17:19 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 09:45:15 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >It's widespread use in the food industry is simply because it's cheap. Americans are fat simply because food is cheap. It's all so very simple. :) >> >> >> >> On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was >> >> expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet >> >> something-or-other with a straw. >> > >> >What a shock that must have been. OTOH, you shouldn't expect to get the same stuff when ordering in a different land. You got to just eat like the locals do and shut the hell up. >> >> True. I just didn't realize "tea" means sweet, cold and a lot of it to >> y'all. And I don't understand why people don't change their ways >> knowing that half the country has diabetes. You're like lemmings, >> cluelessly wobbling towards the abyss. > >Not all y'all but some of y'all. On some parts of the US, it does indeed mean iced, sweetened, tea. Over here, it means either hot or iced. You'll be asked which one you want. We also drink Asian tea which is hot and non-sweetened. Yes, I guess Texas doesn't represent the whole country. |
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On 2020-02-14 12:16 p.m., Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 11:10:37 -0800 (PST), dsi1 > > wrote: > >> On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 9:00:21 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: >>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:29:46 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 8:17:19 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 09:45:15 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It's widespread use in the food industry is simply because it's cheap. Americans are fat simply because food is cheap. It's all so very simple. :) >>>>> >>>>> On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was >>>>> expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet >>>>> something-or-other with a straw. >>>> >>>> What a shock that must have been. OTOH, you shouldn't expect to get the same stuff when ordering in a different land. You got to just eat like the locals do and shut the hell up. >>> >>> True. I just didn't realize "tea" means sweet, cold and a lot of it to >>> y'all. And I don't understand why people don't change their ways >>> knowing that half the country has diabetes. You're like lemmings, >>> cluelessly wobbling towards the abyss. >> >> Not all y'all but some of y'all. On some parts of the US, it does indeed mean iced, sweetened, tea. Over here, it means either hot or iced. You'll be asked which one you want. We also drink Asian tea which is hot and non-sweetened. > > Yes, I guess Texas doesn't represent the whole country. > It thinks it does:-) |
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On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 2:21:30 PM UTC-5, graham wrote:
> On 2020-02-14 12:16 p.m., Bruce wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 11:10:37 -0800 (PST), dsi1 > > > wrote: > > > >> On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 9:00:21 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > >>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:29:46 -0800 (PST), dsi1 > >>> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 8:17:19 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > >>>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 09:45:15 -0800 (PST), dsi1 > >>>>> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> It's widespread use in the food industry is simply because it's cheap. Americans are fat simply because food is cheap. It's all so very simple. :) > >>>>> > >>>>> On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was > >>>>> expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet > >>>>> something-or-other with a straw. > >>>> > >>>> What a shock that must have been. OTOH, you shouldn't expect to get the same stuff when ordering in a different land. You got to just eat like the locals do and shut the hell up. > >>> > >>> True. I just didn't realize "tea" means sweet, cold and a lot of it to > >>> y'all. And I don't understand why people don't change their ways > >>> knowing that half the country has diabetes. You're like lemmings, > >>> cluelessly wobbling towards the abyss. > >> > >> Not all y'all but some of y'all. On some parts of the US, it does indeed mean iced, sweetened, tea. Over here, it means either hot or iced. You'll be asked which one you want. We also drink Asian tea which is hot and non-sweetened. > > > > Yes, I guess Texas doesn't represent the whole country. > > > It thinks it does:-) Texas is the rest of the country writ large. If an outsider wants to understand how Americans see ourselves, I recommend two works of speculative fiction: 1632 by Eric Flint Disruption Trilogy by R.E. McDermott Cindy Hamilton |
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On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 05:53:10 +1100, Bruce >
wrote: >On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:21:31 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton > wrote: > >>On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 1:17:19 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 09:45:15 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >>> > wrote: >>> >>> >On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 6:05:13 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: >>> >> Read this last week and found it interesting: >>> >> >>> >> "High fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is a nutritive sweetener similar >>> >> to table sugar (sucrose). It's used by the food industry because >>> >> of it's many qualities, including stability, broad >>> >> functionability and abundant raw material in the (USA) Midwest. >>> >> As a rise in obesity coincided with it's introduction, some >>> >> people believed it must be the cause. >>> >> >>> >> But HFCS was soon shown to have no means of causing obesity that >>> >> sucrose doesn't have, and their calories are the same. If it were >>> >> removed from the market, consumers would simply find products >>> >> more expensive." >>> > >>> >It's widespread use in the food industry is simply because it's cheap. Americans are fat simply because food is cheap. It's all so very simple. :) >>> >>> On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was >>> expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet >>> something-or-other with a straw. >> >>How unfortunate she did not research the local customs. Imagine the >>disappointment of a Texan visiting England and receiving a cup of hot tea. > >There's nothing wrong with differences in local customs, of course. >But that little scene was an indication of where all the diabetes in >the US comes from. Too much of everything that's unhealthy. When traveling in the US you must specify if you want hot tea or iced tea. Iced tea is a common beverage here, available at all times of the year and all venues. However, if you are traveling in the south, and want iced tea you must specify that you do not want your iced tea sweet if you want plain iced tea. Sweet-tea is (by long custom) a beverage of the American south. Janet US |
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On 2/14/2020 1:17 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was > expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet > something-or-other with a straw. > A hot cup of tea would likely have been some hot water sloshed into a thick, cold cup, with a teabag set on the saucer. This is why my mother never ordered tea in the US - she said that bad coffee was more tolerable than undrinkable tea-water. |
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Bruce wrote:
.... > True. I just didn't realize "tea" means sweet, cold and a lot of it to > y'all. And I don't understand why people don't change their ways > knowing that half the country has diabetes. You're like lemmings, > cluelessly wobbling towards the abyss. in the south, yes, up north here you get iced tea or hot tea and if you want sugar in it you can put it in yourself. i don't drink tea nearly as much now as i used to before when i was addicted to caffiene, but as the years went by i found out how much better i slept without having caffiene and how little was an addictive dose (half a cup of weak coffee two to three days in a row). songbird |
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On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 2:57:02 PM UTC-5, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 2/14/2020 1:17 PM, Bruce wrote: > > > On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was > > expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet > > something-or-other with a straw. > > > A hot cup of tea would likely have been some hot water sloshed into a > thick, cold cup, with a teabag set on the saucer. You're not entirely wrong. A decent tea culture has sprung up, but only in specialty venues. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 12:40:06 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote: >On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 05:53:10 +1100, Bruce > >wrote: > >>On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:21:31 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton > wrote: >> >>>On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 1:17:19 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 09:45:15 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> >On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 6:05:13 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: >>>> >> Read this last week and found it interesting: >>>> >> >>>> >> "High fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is a nutritive sweetener similar >>>> >> to table sugar (sucrose). It's used by the food industry because >>>> >> of it's many qualities, including stability, broad >>>> >> functionability and abundant raw material in the (USA) Midwest. >>>> >> As a rise in obesity coincided with it's introduction, some >>>> >> people believed it must be the cause. >>>> >> >>>> >> But HFCS was soon shown to have no means of causing obesity that >>>> >> sucrose doesn't have, and their calories are the same. If it were >>>> >> removed from the market, consumers would simply find products >>>> >> more expensive." >>>> > >>>> >It's widespread use in the food industry is simply because it's cheap. Americans are fat simply because food is cheap. It's all so very simple. :) >>>> >>>> On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was >>>> expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet >>>> something-or-other with a straw. >>> >>>How unfortunate she did not research the local customs. Imagine the >>>disappointment of a Texan visiting England and receiving a cup of hot tea. >> >>There's nothing wrong with differences in local customs, of course. >>But that little scene was an indication of where all the diabetes in >>the US comes from. Too much of everything that's unhealthy. > >When traveling in the US you must specify if you want hot tea or iced >tea. Iced tea is a common beverage here, available at all times of >the year and all venues. However, if you are traveling in the south, >and want iced tea you must specify that you do not want your iced tea >sweet if you want plain iced tea. Sweet-tea is (by long custom) a >beverage of the American south. I think I saw ice tea for the first time 30 years ago or so. I believe the first brand was Liptonice. If you want to order ice tea in the Netherlands (Europe?), you have to specify ICE tea, otherwise you get a hot cup of tea, which is much more common. |
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On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 2:10:43 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 9:00:21 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:29:46 -0800 (PST), dsi1 > > > wrote: > > > > >On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 8:17:19 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > >> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 09:45:15 -0800 (PST), dsi1 > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > >> >It's widespread use in the food industry is simply because it's cheap. Americans are fat simply because food is cheap. It's all so very simple. :) > > >> > > >> On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was > > >> expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet > > >> something-or-other with a straw. > > > > > >What a shock that must have been. OTOH, you shouldn't expect to get the same stuff when ordering in a different land. You got to just eat like the locals do and shut the hell up. > > > > True. I just didn't realize "tea" means sweet, cold and a lot of it to > > y'all. And I don't understand why people don't change their ways > > knowing that half the country has diabetes. You're like lemmings, > > cluelessly wobbling towards the abyss. > > Not all y'all but some of y'all. On some parts of the US, it does indeed mean iced, > sweetened, tea. Over here, it means either hot or iced. You'll be asked which one you > want. We also drink Asian tea which is hot and non-sweetened. That's the much older Hawai'i generation. When I was there in 2001, sweetened and non-sweetened green tea was the asian craze with everything, right on down to green tea ice cream. |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 14:56:54 -0500, S Viemeister
> wrote: >On 2/14/2020 1:17 PM, Bruce wrote: > >> On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was >> expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet >> something-or-other with a straw. >> >A hot cup of tea would likely have been some hot water sloshed into a >thick, cold cup, with a teabag set on the saucer. It's very often like that in the Netherlands too, although generally in a glass cup. Not that I've ever ordered tea myself. >This is why my mother never ordered tea in the US - she said that bad >coffee was more tolerable than undrinkable tea-water. "It's getting harder and harder to get a bad cup of coffee in the Los Angeles area." (Tom Waits) |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 11:07:11 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>Read this last week and found it interesting: > >"High fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is a nutritive sweetener "nutritive sweetener" ROTFL... unbelievable :) >similar >to table sugar (sucrose). It's used by the food industry because >of it's many qualities, including stability, broad >functionability and abundant raw material in the (USA) Midwest. >As a rise in obesity coincided with it's introduction, some >people believed it must be the cause. > >But HFCS was soon shown to have no means of causing obesity that >sucrose doesn't have, and their calories are the same. If it were >removed from the market, consumers would simply find products >more expensive." LOL, and where did you find this complete bullshit from? No link with your cite. But of course, it's obviously from either the FDA or the corn lobby. If there is any one 'food' item that has made America fat and diabetic, it's HFCS. |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 09:45:15 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote: >On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 6:05:13 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: >> Read this last week and found it interesting: >> >> "High fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is a nutritive sweetener similar >> to table sugar (sucrose). It's used by the food industry because >> of it's many qualities, including stability, broad >> functionability and abundant raw material in the (USA) Midwest. >> As a rise in obesity coincided with it's introduction, some >> people believed it must be the cause. >> >> But HFCS was soon shown to have no means of causing obesity that >> sucrose doesn't have, and their calories are the same. If it were >> removed from the market, consumers would simply find products >> more expensive." > >It's widespread use in the food industry is simply because it's cheap. Americans are fat simply because food is cheap. It's all so very simple. :) Cheap and full of empty carbohydrates. What and age we live in when you can be both simultaneously malnourished and obese. |
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On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 10:22:00 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 2:10:43 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote: > > On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 9:00:21 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:29:46 -0800 (PST), dsi1 > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 8:17:19 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 09:45:15 -0800 (PST), dsi1 > > > >> > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> >It's widespread use in the food industry is simply because it's cheap. Americans are fat simply because food is cheap. It's all so very simple. :) > > > >> > > > >> On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was > > > >> expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet > > > >> something-or-other with a straw. > > > > > > > >What a shock that must have been. OTOH, you shouldn't expect to get the same stuff when ordering in a different land. You got to just eat like the locals do and shut the hell up. > > > > > > True. I just didn't realize "tea" means sweet, cold and a lot of it to > > > y'all. And I don't understand why people don't change their ways > > > knowing that half the country has diabetes. You're like lemmings, > > > cluelessly wobbling towards the abyss. > > > > Not all y'all but some of y'all. On some parts of the US, it does indeed mean iced, > > sweetened, tea. Over here, it means either hot or iced. You'll be asked which one you > > want. We also drink Asian tea which is hot and non-sweetened. > > That's the much older Hawai'i generation. When I was there in 2001, sweetened and non-sweetened green tea was the asian craze with everything, right on down to green tea ice cream. You are correct. Bubble tea and iced drinks with tapioca balls other things in it were getting big back then. They're still popular with the younger set. I don't drink those things because they're better suited for the bodies of the young. I went with my son and grandkids to a place that the kids like. It was okay. I ordered a drink with reduced sugar. The kids like to order drinks with full on sugar. I can't say if it had any tea in it. https://www.yelp.com/biz/tea-home-kaneohe-kaneohe-4 |
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On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 4:07:18 PM UTC-5, Jeßus wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 11:07:11 -0500, Gary > wrote: > > >Read this last week and found it interesting: > > > >"High fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is a nutritive sweetener > > "nutritive sweetener" ROTFL... unbelievable :) That just means it has calories, as opposed to saccharin (for example). Cindy Hamilton |
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On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 10:28:10 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > "It's getting harder and harder to get a bad cup of coffee in the Los > Angeles area." > (Tom Waits) I can't get a stinkin' cup of coffee in this town that's any good. If I want one, I have to make it myself and I don't really enjoy my own cooking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49tTzEifY6M |
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On 2/14/2020 2:56 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 2/14/2020 1:17 PM, Bruce wrote: > >> On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was >> expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet >> something-or-other with a straw. >> > A hot cup of tea would likely have been some hot water sloshed into a > thick, cold cup, with a teabag set on the saucer. > > This is why my mother never ordered tea in the US - she said that bad > coffee was more tolerable than undrinkable tea-water. > I do the same. Only once did I have a good cup of tea in a restaurant. This morning I was talking with a friend and she takes her own tea bags with her to control one variable.Part of our conversation was cooking for one. |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:21:07 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote: >On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 10:28:10 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: >> >> "It's getting harder and harder to get a bad cup of coffee in the Los >> Angeles area." >> (Tom Waits) > >I can't get a stinkin' cup of coffee in this town that's any good. If I want one, I have to make it myself and I don't really enjoy my own cooking. Don't you have a place with decent espresso's, cappuccinos and all that? >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49tTzEifY6M :) |
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On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 11:49:22 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:21:07 -0800 (PST), dsi1 > > wrote: > > >On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 10:28:10 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > >> > >> "It's getting harder and harder to get a bad cup of coffee in the Los > >> Angeles area." > >> (Tom Waits) > > > >I can't get a stinkin' cup of coffee in this town that's any good. If I want one, I have to make it myself and I don't really enjoy my own cooking. > > Don't you have a place with decent espresso's, cappuccinos and all > that? > > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49tTzEifY6M > > :) I could go to Starbucks but I won't do that on general principle. |
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On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 12:53:14 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:21:31 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton > > wrote: > > >> On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was > >> expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet > >> something-or-other with a straw. > > > >How unfortunate she did not research the local customs. Imagine the > >disappointment of a Texan visiting England and receiving a cup of hot tea. > > There's nothing wrong with differences in local customs, of course. > But that little scene was an indication of where all the diabetes in > the US comes from. Too much of everything that's unhealthy. > I call bullshit on "I saw an English woman order tea." If said dunce wanted hot tea she should have asked for it. It's readily available and I've heard plenty of people order hot tea in restaurants. AND the choice is yours if you want sweet or unsweetened tea. All you have to do is indicate which you prefer. |
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On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 1:00:21 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> > And I don't understand why people don't change their ways > knowing that half the country has diabetes. > More clueless bullshit. Cite your source where "half the country has diabetes." |
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On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 1:40:14 PM UTC-6, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > When traveling in the US you must specify if you want hot tea or iced > tea. Iced tea is a common beverage here, available at all times of > the year and all venues. However, if you are traveling in the south, > and want iced tea you must specify that you do not want your iced tea > sweet if you want plain iced tea. Sweet-tea is (by long custom) a > beverage of the American south. > Janet US > Nailed it! |
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On 2020-02-14 2:43 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 2/14/2020 2:56 PM, S Viemeister wrote: >> On 2/14/2020 1:17 PM, Bruce wrote: >> >>> On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was >>> expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet >>> something-or-other with a straw. >>> >> A hot cup of tea would likely have been some hot water sloshed into a >> thick, cold cup, with a teabag set on the saucer. >> >> This is why my mother never ordered tea in the US - she said that bad >> coffee was more tolerable than undrinkable tea-water. >> > > I do the same.Â* Only once did I have a good cup of tea in a restaurant. > This morning I was talking with a friend and she takes her own tea bags > with her to control one variable.Part of our conversation was cooking > for one. I have a cookbook for singles by Delia Smith, La Doyenne of British cookery, called: "One is fun". It isn't!!!! |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:20:12 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 4:07:18 PM UTC-5, Jeßus wrote: >> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 11:07:11 -0500, Gary > wrote: >> >> >Read this last week and found it interesting: >> > >> >"High fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is a nutritive sweetener >> >> "nutritive sweetener" ROTFL... unbelievable :) > >That just means it has calories, as opposed to saccharin (for example). No quite. Calories are not all the same, far from it. |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 14:01:48 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote: >On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 12:53:14 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:21:31 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton >> > wrote: >> >> >> On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was >> >> expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet >> >> something-or-other with a straw. >> > >> >How unfortunate she did not research the local customs. Imagine the >> >disappointment of a Texan visiting England and receiving a cup of hot tea. >> >> There's nothing wrong with differences in local customs, of course. >> But that little scene was an indication of where all the diabetes in >> the US comes from. Too much of everything that's unhealthy. >> >I call bullshit on "I saw an English woman order tea." If said dunce wanted >hot tea she should have asked for it. It's readily available and I've heard >plenty of people order hot tea in restaurants. AND the choice is yours if you >want sweet or unsweetened tea. All you have to do is indicate which you prefer. Ok, to make a short story long... The English women said to the server: "Do you have tea." The server replied: "Only sweet tea". The English woman nodded as in "ok, if that's the only option" and got served what I described. When in Rome do as the Romans do, and all that. I was just surprised. |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 14:03:25 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote: >On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 1:00:21 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >> >> And I don't understand why people don't change their ways >> knowing that half the country has diabetes. >> >More clueless bullshit. Cite your source where "half the country has diabetes." "More than 100 million U.S. adults are now living with diabetes or prediabetes, according to a new report released today by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)." It's age related, of course. In highschools there will be few, in RFC there will be many. |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:57:39 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote: >On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 11:49:22 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: >> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:21:07 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >> > wrote: >> >> >On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 10:28:10 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: >> >> >> >> "It's getting harder and harder to get a bad cup of coffee in the Los >> >> Angeles area." >> >> (Tom Waits) >> > >> >I can't get a stinkin' cup of coffee in this town that's any good. If I want one, I have to make it myself and I don't really enjoy my own cooking. >> >> Don't you have a place with decent espresso's, cappuccinos and all >> that? >> >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49tTzEifY6M >> >> :) > >I could go to Starbucks but I won't do that on general principle. Nothing that's run by Italians, Greeks, Vietnamese etc? |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 22:00:52 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> wrote: >>LOL, and where did you find this complete bullshit from? No link with >>your cite. But of course, it's obviously from either the FDA or the >>corn lobby. >> >>If there is any one 'food' item that has made America fat and >>diabetic, it's HFCS. > >hmmm... no link, no citation ... PKB Well, it IS (somewhere) on the Net, hidden in the Dark Corner that is protected by Big Agra and Big Pharma, and all the other kookie consiracy garbage. Alex Jones, Rush Limberger, and Mike Adams all say so, so it MUST be true!! |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 14:01:48 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote: >On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 12:53:14 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:21:31 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton >> > wrote: >> >> >> On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was >> >> expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet >> >> something-or-other with a straw. >> > >> >How unfortunate she did not research the local customs. Imagine the >> >disappointment of a Texan visiting England and receiving a cup of hot tea. >> >> There's nothing wrong with differences in local customs, of course. >> But that little scene was an indication of where all the diabetes in >> the US comes from. Too much of everything that's unhealthy. >> >I call bullshit on "I saw an English woman order tea." If said dunce wanted >hot tea she should have asked for it. It's readily available and I've heard >plenty of people order hot tea in restaurants. AND the choice is yours if you >want sweet or unsweetened tea. All you have to do is indicate which you prefer. Ask for a CUP of tea, and you will almost certainly get hot tea. Ask for a GLASS of tea and you'll get that sickly sweet southern abomination. |
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On 2/14/2020 6:42 PM, Still Bud wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 14:01:48 -0800 (PST), " > > wrote: > >> On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 12:53:14 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:21:31 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton >>> > wrote: >>> >>>>> On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was >>>>> expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet >>>>> something-or-other with a straw. >>>> >>>> How unfortunate she did not research the local customs. Imagine the >>>> disappointment of a Texan visiting England and receiving a cup of hot tea. >>> >>> There's nothing wrong with differences in local customs, of course. >>> But that little scene was an indication of where all the diabetes in >>> the US comes from. Too much of everything that's unhealthy. >>> >> I call bullshit on "I saw an English woman order tea." If said dunce wanted >> hot tea she should have asked for it. It's readily available and I've heard >> plenty of people order hot tea in restaurants. AND the choice is yours if you >> want sweet or unsweetened tea. All you have to do is indicate which you prefer. > > Ask for a CUP of tea, and you will almost certainly get hot tea. > > Ask for a GLASS of tea and you'll get that sickly sweet southern > abomination. > Or just ask for a glass of unsweetened iced tea. It's not rocket science. Jill |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 18:45:39 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote: >On 2/14/2020 6:42 PM, Still Bud wrote: >> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 14:01:48 -0800 (PST), " >> > wrote: >> >>> On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 12:53:14 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >>>> >>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 10:21:31 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>>> On TV, I saw an English woman order a tea in Texas somewhere. She was >>>>>> expecting a cup of hot tea. She got a bucket of cold, sweet >>>>>> something-or-other with a straw. >>>>> >>>>> How unfortunate she did not research the local customs. Imagine the >>>>> disappointment of a Texan visiting England and receiving a cup of hot tea. >>>> >>>> There's nothing wrong with differences in local customs, of course. >>>> But that little scene was an indication of where all the diabetes in >>>> the US comes from. Too much of everything that's unhealthy. >>>> >>> I call bullshit on "I saw an English woman order tea." If said dunce wanted >>> hot tea she should have asked for it. It's readily available and I've heard >>> plenty of people order hot tea in restaurants. AND the choice is yours if you >>> want sweet or unsweetened tea. All you have to do is indicate which you prefer. >> >> Ask for a CUP of tea, and you will almost certainly get hot tea. >> >> Ask for a GLASS of tea and you'll get that sickly sweet southern >> abomination. >> >Or just ask for a glass of unsweetened iced tea. It's not rocket science. Whoosh. |
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