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On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 22:20:52 -0500, jmcquown >
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>On 11/11/2019 11:39 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Gary wrote:
>>>
>>> Look more at the grocery store McCormack spices. Many sell for
>>> up to $100 per pound. No wonder in the old days, ships went
>>> to China for spices. Worth more than gold back then.

>>
>> Correction: sell for up to $100 per OUNCE, not per pound.
>>

>It's still a lot of money. And you're absolutely right. In the
>ancient mists of time, spices were worth their weight in gold. Ships
>sailed the seas on a very active spice trade route. Also imported were
>silks and other exotic things, but spices were highly prized.



Even salt was once something worth going to war over:
https://www.nps.gov/gumo/learn/histo...re/saltwar.htm
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>On 11/10/2019 5:16 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>> On 11/10/2019 3:03 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 12:59:19 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 3:39:00 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 12:15:51 -0800 (PST), "
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 1:51:34 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>> I was in BJ's the other day and one of the item they were sampling
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> Jimmy Dean precooked sausage links.Â* I like JD sausage and have it
>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>> or twice a week.Â* The sample tasted just as good as what I make
>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>> chub package.Â* I wonder what the price is?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I had over to the case as one of the things I was picking up
>>>>>>> was JD
>>>>>>> sausage.Â* Of course, I looked at the price per pound.Â* OMG!Â* The
>>>>>>> precooked came out to $23 per pounds as compared to the DIY at $3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> To me, Jimmy Dean is one of the worst tasting breakfast sausages to
>>>>>> be had.
>>>>>> But you like it, and that's great.
>>>>> It's also surprising.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jimmy Dean Breakfast Bowls, Sausage
>>>>>
>>>>> PRECOOKED SCRAMBLED EGGS (WHOLE EGGS, SKIM MILK, SOYBEAN OIL, MODIFIED
>>>>> CORN STARCH, XANTHAN GUM, LIQUID PEPPER EXTRACT, SALT, CITRIC ACID,
>>>>> BUTTER FLAVOR [BUTTER {CREAM, MILK}, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED SOYBEAN
>>>>> AND COTTONSEED OIL, SOYBEAN OIL, LIPOLYZED BUTTER OIL, NATURAL AND
>>>>> ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS]), DICED POTATOES (POTATOES, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED
>>>>> VEGETABLE OIL [SOYBEAN AND/OR COTTONSEED OILS], AND/OR VEGETABLE OIL
>>>>> [CANOLA, SOYBEAN AND/OR SUNFLOWER OILS], MALTODEXTRIN, SALT, DEXTROSE,
>>>>> TETRASODIUM PYROPHOSPHATE AND DISODIUM DIHYDROGEN PYROPHOSPHATE [TO
>>>>> MAINTAIN NATURAL COLOR]),COOKED PORK SAUSAGE CRUMBLES (PORK, WATER,
>>>>> CONTAINS 2% OR LESS OF: SALT, SUGAR, SPICES, NATURAL FLAVOR (WITH
>>>>> MALTODEXTRIN, SUCCINIC ACID), SODIUM PHOSPHATE, CARAMEL
>>>>> COLOR).SHREDDED MILD CHEDDAR CHEESE (PASTEURIZED MILK, CHEESE CULTURE,
>>>>> SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO COLOR), WATER."
>>>>>
>>>>> Eeeeeeewwwwwwww. "TO MAINTAIN NATURAL COLOR" YOHO!
>>>> That's not the stuff we're talking about.Â* It's almost as if you're
>>>> trying
>>>> to come up with the worst possible outcome.Â* I would appreciate some
>>>> intellectual honesty from you.
>>>>
>>>> Here's what we're talking about:
>>>>
>>>> pork, water, contains 2% or less of the following: corn syrup, salt,
>>>> spices, sugar, monosodium glutamate, flavorings.
>>> I went with the first JD breakfast sausage that I found. No dishonesty
>>> involved.

>>
>> Â* That's bullshit and we all know it . You looked for the JD product
>> with the most unpronounceable ingredients , just like always .
>>

>Yes, we do indeed know it. Bruce tries to make it sound like everyone
>(especially in the U.S.) is eating the worst possible crap all the time.


It's not bullshit and I explained that but "Snag" doesn't have the
balls to reply anymore. Maybe "Weasel" would be more appropriate.
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On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 22:01:57 -0500, jmcquown >
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>On 11/10/2019 5:16 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>> On 11/10/2019 3:03 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 12:59:19 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 3:39:00 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 12:15:51 -0800 (PST), "
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 1:51:34 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>> I was in BJ's the other day and one of the item they were sampling
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> Jimmy Dean precooked sausage links.Â* I like JD sausage and have it
>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>> or twice a week.Â* The sample tasted just as good as what I make
>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>> chub package.Â* I wonder what the price is?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I had over to the case as one of the things I was picking up
>>>>>>> was JD
>>>>>>> sausage.Â* Of course, I looked at the price per pound.Â* OMG!Â* The
>>>>>>> precooked came out to $23 per pounds as compared to the DIY at $3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> To me, Jimmy Dean is one of the worst tasting breakfast sausages to
>>>>>> be had.
>>>>>> But you like it, and that's great.
>>>>> It's also surprising.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jimmy Dean Breakfast Bowls, Sausage
>>>>>
>>>>> PRECOOKED SCRAMBLED EGGS (WHOLE EGGS, SKIM MILK, SOYBEAN OIL, MODIFIED
>>>>> CORN STARCH, XANTHAN GUM, LIQUID PEPPER EXTRACT, SALT, CITRIC ACID,
>>>>> BUTTER FLAVOR [BUTTER {CREAM, MILK}, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED SOYBEAN
>>>>> AND COTTONSEED OIL, SOYBEAN OIL, LIPOLYZED BUTTER OIL, NATURAL AND
>>>>> ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS]), DICED POTATOES (POTATOES, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED
>>>>> VEGETABLE OIL [SOYBEAN AND/OR COTTONSEED OILS], AND/OR VEGETABLE OIL
>>>>> [CANOLA, SOYBEAN AND/OR SUNFLOWER OILS], MALTODEXTRIN, SALT, DEXTROSE,
>>>>> TETRASODIUM PYROPHOSPHATE AND DISODIUM DIHYDROGEN PYROPHOSPHATE [TO
>>>>> MAINTAIN NATURAL COLOR]),COOKED PORK SAUSAGE CRUMBLES (PORK, WATER,
>>>>> CONTAINS 2% OR LESS OF: SALT, SUGAR, SPICES, NATURAL FLAVOR (WITH
>>>>> MALTODEXTRIN, SUCCINIC ACID), SODIUM PHOSPHATE, CARAMEL
>>>>> COLOR).SHREDDED MILD CHEDDAR CHEESE (PASTEURIZED MILK, CHEESE CULTURE,
>>>>> SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO COLOR), WATER."
>>>>>
>>>>> Eeeeeeewwwwwwww. "TO MAINTAIN NATURAL COLOR" YOHO!
>>>> That's not the stuff we're talking about.Â* It's almost as if you're
>>>> trying
>>>> to come up with the worst possible outcome.Â* I would appreciate some
>>>> intellectual honesty from you.
>>>>
>>>> Here's what we're talking about:
>>>>
>>>> pork, water, contains 2% or less of the following: corn syrup, salt,
>>>> spices, sugar, monosodium glutamate, flavorings.
>>> I went with the first JD breakfast sausage that I found. No dishonesty
>>> involved.

>>
>> Â* That's bullshit and we all know it . You looked for the JD product
>> with the most unpronounceable ingredients , just like always .
>>

>Yes, we do indeed know it. Bruce tries to make it sound like everyone
>(especially in the U.S.) is eating the worst possible crap all the time.


It has nothing specifically to do with Americans. I have no idea if
Australian prefab food is any better. And I only look up ingredients
of products that RFC people say they eat or like.
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On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 5:23:39 PM UTC-5, pamela wrote:
> On 19:19 11 Nov 2019, dsi1 > wrote:
>
> > On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 8:35:50 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm not familiar with "Breakfast Bowls". I saw breakfast and sausage
> >> and Jimmy Dean and that was enough.
> >>
> >> Remember that my posting of ingredient lists is a voluntary community
> >> service, not a paid activity.

> >
> > You get to bait the bull, that's payment enough!
> >
> > Jimmy Dean was a famous American singer, entertainer, and sausage king.
> > You might know him from famous movies such as "Diamonds Are Forever"
> > and... and... you know... others!
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbwDGtj84YY

>
> Sean Connery was always a great James Bond.


I thought Timothy Dalton was more like the Bond in the original books.

Cindy Hamilton


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On Tuesday, November 12, 2019 at 1:56:43 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 22:01:57 -0500, jmcquown >


> It's not bullshit and I explained that but "Snag" doesn't have the
> balls to reply anymore. Maybe "Weasel" would be more appropriate.


You missed your opportunity to say "Oh, my goodness! I apologize for
my carelessness in attempting to post ingredients for breakfast
sausage."

It would have done you no harm and would have made everybody here
less angry at you. Unless anger was your intention, of course.

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On 11/12/2019 12:56 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 22:01:57 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/10/2019 5:16 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>>> On 11/10/2019 3:03 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 12:59:19 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 3:39:00 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 12:15:51 -0800 (PST), "
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 1:51:34 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>> I was in BJ's the other day and one of the item they were sampling
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> Jimmy Dean precooked sausage links.Â* I like JD sausage and have it
>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>> or twice a week.Â* The sample tasted just as good as what I make
>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>> chub package.Â* I wonder what the price is?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I had over to the case as one of the things I was picking up
>>>>>>>> was JD
>>>>>>>> sausage.Â* Of course, I looked at the price per pound.Â* OMG!Â* The
>>>>>>>> precooked came out to $23 per pounds as compared to the DIY at $3.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To me, Jimmy Dean is one of the worst tasting breakfast sausages to
>>>>>>> be had.
>>>>>>> But you like it, and that's great.
>>>>>> It's also surprising.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jimmy Dean Breakfast Bowls, Sausage
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PRECOOKED SCRAMBLED EGGS (WHOLE EGGS, SKIM MILK, SOYBEAN OIL, MODIFIED
>>>>>> CORN STARCH, XANTHAN GUM, LIQUID PEPPER EXTRACT, SALT, CITRIC ACID,
>>>>>> BUTTER FLAVOR [BUTTER {CREAM, MILK}, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED SOYBEAN
>>>>>> AND COTTONSEED OIL, SOYBEAN OIL, LIPOLYZED BUTTER OIL, NATURAL AND
>>>>>> ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS]), DICED POTATOES (POTATOES, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED
>>>>>> VEGETABLE OIL [SOYBEAN AND/OR COTTONSEED OILS], AND/OR VEGETABLE OIL
>>>>>> [CANOLA, SOYBEAN AND/OR SUNFLOWER OILS], MALTODEXTRIN, SALT, DEXTROSE,
>>>>>> TETRASODIUM PYROPHOSPHATE AND DISODIUM DIHYDROGEN PYROPHOSPHATE [TO
>>>>>> MAINTAIN NATURAL COLOR]),COOKED PORK SAUSAGE CRUMBLES (PORK, WATER,
>>>>>> CONTAINS 2% OR LESS OF: SALT, SUGAR, SPICES, NATURAL FLAVOR (WITH
>>>>>> MALTODEXTRIN, SUCCINIC ACID), SODIUM PHOSPHATE, CARAMEL
>>>>>> COLOR).SHREDDED MILD CHEDDAR CHEESE (PASTEURIZED MILK, CHEESE CULTURE,
>>>>>> SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO COLOR), WATER."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eeeeeeewwwwwwww. "TO MAINTAIN NATURAL COLOR" YOHO!
>>>>> That's not the stuff we're talking about.Â* It's almost as if you're
>>>>> trying
>>>>> to come up with the worst possible outcome.Â* I would appreciate some
>>>>> intellectual honesty from you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's what we're talking about:
>>>>>
>>>>> pork, water, contains 2% or less of the following: corn syrup, salt,
>>>>> spices, sugar, monosodium glutamate, flavorings.
>>>> I went with the first JD breakfast sausage that I found. No dishonesty
>>>> involved.
>>> Â* That's bullshit and we all know it . You looked for the JD product
>>> with the most unpronounceable ingredients , just like always .
>>>

>> Yes, we do indeed know it. Bruce tries to make it sound like everyone
>> (especially in the U.S.) is eating the worst possible crap all the time.

> It's not bullshit and I explained that but "Snag" doesn't have the
> balls to reply anymore. Maybe "Weasel" would be more appropriate.


Â* Go **** yourself with a wooden shoe . You're well known to cherry
pick and this is no different . You picked the worst-case just because
it included the one ingredient under discussion . You're pathetic in
your efforts to draw attention to yourself .

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On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 03:20:02 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, November 12, 2019 at 1:56:43 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 22:01:57 -0500, jmcquown >

>
>> It's not bullshit and I explained that but "Snag" doesn't have the
>> balls to reply anymore. Maybe "Weasel" would be more appropriate.

>
>You missed your opportunity to say "Oh, my goodness! I apologize for
>my carelessness in attempting to post ingredients for breakfast
>sausage."
>
>It would have done you no harm and would have made everybody here
>less angry at you. Unless anger was your intention, of course.


I already explained what happened. I also started the ingredients with
the correct title. I wouldn't have done that if I wanted to deceive
anybody. Anger wasn't my intention, but since the anger's unjustified,
I don't care.
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 05:56:59 -0600, Terry Coombs >
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>On 11/12/2019 12:56 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 22:01:57 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/10/2019 5:16 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>>>> On 11/10/2019 3:03 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 12:59:19 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 3:39:00 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 12:15:51 -0800 (PST), "
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 1:51:34 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I was in BJ's the other day and one of the item they were sampling
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> Jimmy Dean precooked sausage links.Â* I like JD sausage and have it
>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>> or twice a week.Â* The sample tasted just as good as what I make
>>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>>> chub package.Â* I wonder what the price is?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So I had over to the case as one of the things I was picking up
>>>>>>>>> was JD
>>>>>>>>> sausage.Â* Of course, I looked at the price per pound.Â* OMG!Â* The
>>>>>>>>> precooked came out to $23 per pounds as compared to the DIY at $3.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To me, Jimmy Dean is one of the worst tasting breakfast sausages to
>>>>>>>> be had.
>>>>>>>> But you like it, and that's great.
>>>>>>> It's also surprising.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jimmy Dean Breakfast Bowls, Sausage
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PRECOOKED SCRAMBLED EGGS (WHOLE EGGS, SKIM MILK, SOYBEAN OIL, MODIFIED
>>>>>>> CORN STARCH, XANTHAN GUM, LIQUID PEPPER EXTRACT, SALT, CITRIC ACID,
>>>>>>> BUTTER FLAVOR [BUTTER {CREAM, MILK}, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED SOYBEAN
>>>>>>> AND COTTONSEED OIL, SOYBEAN OIL, LIPOLYZED BUTTER OIL, NATURAL AND
>>>>>>> ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS]), DICED POTATOES (POTATOES, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED
>>>>>>> VEGETABLE OIL [SOYBEAN AND/OR COTTONSEED OILS], AND/OR VEGETABLE OIL
>>>>>>> [CANOLA, SOYBEAN AND/OR SUNFLOWER OILS], MALTODEXTRIN, SALT, DEXTROSE,
>>>>>>> TETRASODIUM PYROPHOSPHATE AND DISODIUM DIHYDROGEN PYROPHOSPHATE [TO
>>>>>>> MAINTAIN NATURAL COLOR]),COOKED PORK SAUSAGE CRUMBLES (PORK, WATER,
>>>>>>> CONTAINS 2% OR LESS OF: SALT, SUGAR, SPICES, NATURAL FLAVOR (WITH
>>>>>>> MALTODEXTRIN, SUCCINIC ACID), SODIUM PHOSPHATE, CARAMEL
>>>>>>> COLOR).SHREDDED MILD CHEDDAR CHEESE (PASTEURIZED MILK, CHEESE CULTURE,
>>>>>>> SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO COLOR), WATER."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eeeeeeewwwwwwww. "TO MAINTAIN NATURAL COLOR" YOHO!
>>>>>> That's not the stuff we're talking about.Â* It's almost as if you're
>>>>>> trying
>>>>>> to come up with the worst possible outcome.Â* I would appreciate some
>>>>>> intellectual honesty from you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's what we're talking about:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pork, water, contains 2% or less of the following: corn syrup, salt,
>>>>>> spices, sugar, monosodium glutamate, flavorings.
>>>>> I went with the first JD breakfast sausage that I found. No dishonesty
>>>>> involved.
>>>> Â* That's bullshit and we all know it . You looked for the JD product
>>>> with the most unpronounceable ingredients , just like always .
>>>>
>>> Yes, we do indeed know it. Bruce tries to make it sound like everyone
>>> (especially in the U.S.) is eating the worst possible crap all the time.

>> It's not bullshit and I explained that but "Snag" doesn't have the
>> balls to reply anymore. Maybe "Weasel" would be more appropriate.

>
> Â* Go **** yourself with a wooden shoe . You're well known to cherry
>pick and this is no different . You picked the worst-case just because
>it included the one ingredient under discussion . You're pathetic in
>your efforts to draw attention to yourself .


You're lying. Oh, you're also a weasel. Or did I already say that?
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On 11/12/2019 11:13 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 05:56:59 -0600, Terry Coombs >
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/12/2019 12:56 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 22:01:57 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/10/2019 5:16 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>>>>> On 11/10/2019 3:03 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 12:59:19 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 3:39:00 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 12:15:51 -0800 (PST), "
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 1:51:34 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I was in BJ's the other day and one of the item they were sampling
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> Jimmy Dean precooked sausage links.Â* I like JD sausage and have it
>>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>>> or twice a week.Â* The sample tasted just as good as what I make
>>>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>>>> chub package.Â* I wonder what the price is?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So I had over to the case as one of the things I was picking up
>>>>>>>>>> was JD
>>>>>>>>>> sausage.Â* Of course, I looked at the price per pound.Â* OMG!Â* The
>>>>>>>>>> precooked came out to $23 per pounds as compared to the DIY at $3.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To me, Jimmy Dean is one of the worst tasting breakfast sausages to
>>>>>>>>> be had.
>>>>>>>>> But you like it, and that's great.
>>>>>>>> It's also surprising.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Jimmy Dean Breakfast Bowls, Sausage
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PRECOOKED SCRAMBLED EGGS (WHOLE EGGS, SKIM MILK, SOYBEAN OIL, MODIFIED
>>>>>>>> CORN STARCH, XANTHAN GUM, LIQUID PEPPER EXTRACT, SALT, CITRIC ACID,
>>>>>>>> BUTTER FLAVOR [BUTTER {CREAM, MILK}, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED SOYBEAN
>>>>>>>> AND COTTONSEED OIL, SOYBEAN OIL, LIPOLYZED BUTTER OIL, NATURAL AND
>>>>>>>> ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS]), DICED POTATOES (POTATOES, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED
>>>>>>>> VEGETABLE OIL [SOYBEAN AND/OR COTTONSEED OILS], AND/OR VEGETABLE OIL
>>>>>>>> [CANOLA, SOYBEAN AND/OR SUNFLOWER OILS], MALTODEXTRIN, SALT, DEXTROSE,
>>>>>>>> TETRASODIUM PYROPHOSPHATE AND DISODIUM DIHYDROGEN PYROPHOSPHATE [TO
>>>>>>>> MAINTAIN NATURAL COLOR]),COOKED PORK SAUSAGE CRUMBLES (PORK, WATER,
>>>>>>>> CONTAINS 2% OR LESS OF: SALT, SUGAR, SPICES, NATURAL FLAVOR (WITH
>>>>>>>> MALTODEXTRIN, SUCCINIC ACID), SODIUM PHOSPHATE, CARAMEL
>>>>>>>> COLOR).SHREDDED MILD CHEDDAR CHEESE (PASTEURIZED MILK, CHEESE CULTURE,
>>>>>>>> SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO COLOR), WATER."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eeeeeeewwwwwwww. "TO MAINTAIN NATURAL COLOR" YOHO!
>>>>>>> That's not the stuff we're talking about.Â* It's almost as if you're
>>>>>>> trying
>>>>>>> to come up with the worst possible outcome.Â* I would appreciate some
>>>>>>> intellectual honesty from you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's what we're talking about:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pork, water, contains 2% or less of the following: corn syrup, salt,
>>>>>>> spices, sugar, monosodium glutamate, flavorings.
>>>>>> I went with the first JD breakfast sausage that I found. No dishonesty
>>>>>> involved.
>>>>> Â* That's bullshit and we all know it . You looked for the JD product
>>>>> with the most unpronounceable ingredients , just like always .
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, we do indeed know it. Bruce tries to make it sound like everyone
>>>> (especially in the U.S.) is eating the worst possible crap all the time.
>>> It's not bullshit and I explained that but "Snag" doesn't have the
>>> balls to reply anymore. Maybe "Weasel" would be more appropriate.

>> Â* Go **** yourself with a wooden shoe . You're well known to cherry
>> pick and this is no different . You picked the worst-case just because
>> it included the one ingredient under discussion . You're pathetic in
>> your efforts to draw attention to yourself .

> You're lying. Oh, you're also a weasel. Or did I already say that?


Â* And now we're into ad hominem attacks . Sad , truly sad that you
can't refute my statement so you attack me .

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>On 11/12/2019 11:13 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 05:56:59 -0600, Terry Coombs >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/12/2019 12:56 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 22:01:57 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/10/2019 5:16 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/10/2019 3:03 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 12:59:19 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 3:39:00 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 12:15:51 -0800 (PST), "
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 1:51:34 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I was in BJ's the other day and one of the item they were sampling
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> Jimmy Dean precooked sausage links.Â* I like JD sausage and have it
>>>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>>>> or twice a week.Â* The sample tasted just as good as what I make
>>>>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>>>>> chub package.Â* I wonder what the price is?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So I had over to the case as one of the things I was picking up
>>>>>>>>>>> was JD
>>>>>>>>>>> sausage.Â* Of course, I looked at the price per pound.Â* OMG!Â* The
>>>>>>>>>>> precooked came out to $23 per pounds as compared to the DIY at $3.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To me, Jimmy Dean is one of the worst tasting breakfast sausages to
>>>>>>>>>> be had.
>>>>>>>>>> But you like it, and that's great.
>>>>>>>>> It's also surprising.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Jimmy Dean Breakfast Bowls, Sausage
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> PRECOOKED SCRAMBLED EGGS (WHOLE EGGS, SKIM MILK, SOYBEAN OIL, MODIFIED
>>>>>>>>> CORN STARCH, XANTHAN GUM, LIQUID PEPPER EXTRACT, SALT, CITRIC ACID,
>>>>>>>>> BUTTER FLAVOR [BUTTER {CREAM, MILK}, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED SOYBEAN
>>>>>>>>> AND COTTONSEED OIL, SOYBEAN OIL, LIPOLYZED BUTTER OIL, NATURAL AND
>>>>>>>>> ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS]), DICED POTATOES (POTATOES, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED
>>>>>>>>> VEGETABLE OIL [SOYBEAN AND/OR COTTONSEED OILS], AND/OR VEGETABLE OIL
>>>>>>>>> [CANOLA, SOYBEAN AND/OR SUNFLOWER OILS], MALTODEXTRIN, SALT, DEXTROSE,
>>>>>>>>> TETRASODIUM PYROPHOSPHATE AND DISODIUM DIHYDROGEN PYROPHOSPHATE [TO
>>>>>>>>> MAINTAIN NATURAL COLOR]),COOKED PORK SAUSAGE CRUMBLES (PORK, WATER,
>>>>>>>>> CONTAINS 2% OR LESS OF: SALT, SUGAR, SPICES, NATURAL FLAVOR (WITH
>>>>>>>>> MALTODEXTRIN, SUCCINIC ACID), SODIUM PHOSPHATE, CARAMEL
>>>>>>>>> COLOR).SHREDDED MILD CHEDDAR CHEESE (PASTEURIZED MILK, CHEESE CULTURE,
>>>>>>>>> SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO COLOR), WATER."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eeeeeeewwwwwwww. "TO MAINTAIN NATURAL COLOR" YOHO!
>>>>>>>> That's not the stuff we're talking about.Â* It's almost as if you're
>>>>>>>> trying
>>>>>>>> to come up with the worst possible outcome.Â* I would appreciate some
>>>>>>>> intellectual honesty from you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's what we're talking about:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> pork, water, contains 2% or less of the following: corn syrup, salt,
>>>>>>>> spices, sugar, monosodium glutamate, flavorings.
>>>>>>> I went with the first JD breakfast sausage that I found. No dishonesty
>>>>>>> involved.
>>>>>> Â* That's bullshit and we all know it . You looked for the JD product
>>>>>> with the most unpronounceable ingredients , just like always .
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, we do indeed know it. Bruce tries to make it sound like everyone
>>>>> (especially in the U.S.) is eating the worst possible crap all the time.
>>>> It's not bullshit and I explained that but "Snag" doesn't have the
>>>> balls to reply anymore. Maybe "Weasel" would be more appropriate.
>>> Â* Go **** yourself with a wooden shoe . You're well known to cherry
>>> pick and this is no different . You picked the worst-case just because
>>> it included the one ingredient under discussion . You're pathetic in
>>> your efforts to draw attention to yourself .

>> You're lying. Oh, you're also a weasel. Or did I already say that?

>
> Â* And now we're into ad hominem attacks . Sad , truly sad that you
>can't refute my statement so you attack me .


I have already refuted your statement. And the ad hominems started
when you said I was lying. So stick that up your weasel.
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Bruce wrote:
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>Terry Coombs wrote:
> > Â Go **** yourself with a wooden shoe . You're well known to cherry
> >pick and this is no different . You picked the worst-case just because
> >it included the one ingredient under discussion . You're pathetic in
> >your efforts to draw attention to yourself .

>
> You're lying. Oh, you're also a weasel. Or did I already say that?


Just for your information, weasels are pretty cool creatures.
Calling someone a weasel is not a bad thing. Try again.
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<ingredient lists in general>

Dude, your ingredients lists aren't bad. They can be
informative for those that don't bother to look it up.

It's your personal opinions and criticism that makes you
a flaming troll. No one cares that you feel superior
for not eating certain items.

Want to be helpful? Stick to the lists without your
personal opinions.
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 13:36:53 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>

> <ingredient lists in general>
>
>Dude, your ingredients lists aren't bad. They can be
>informative for those that don't bother to look it up.
>
>It's your personal opinions and criticism that makes you
>a flaming troll. No one cares that you feel superior
>for not eating certain items.
>
>Want to be helpful? Stick to the lists without your
>personal opinions.


-I don't feel superior.
-We eat more prefab food than we should. Convenience, time
constraints, laziness, the usual.
-When the list is very long and scienceprojectish, it's hard to
suppress an eew. Is the eew that offensive? Don't you go eew too?
-At least you didn't say it has anything to do with Americans, because
it doesn't. I haven't checked but I bet the whole western world is
full of xanthan gum.
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 13:35:23 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>>Terry Coombs wrote:
>> > Â Go **** yourself with a wooden shoe . You're well known to cherry
>> >pick and this is no different . You picked the worst-case just because
>> >it included the one ingredient under discussion . You're pathetic in
>> >your efforts to draw attention to yourself .

>>
>> You're lying. Oh, you're also a weasel. Or did I already say that?

>
>Just for your information, weasels are pretty cool creatures.
>Calling someone a weasel is not a bad thing. Try again.


I was already doing you a favour by not calling him a ferret. I guess
weasels are too close to ferrets. I'll have to think of something
else.


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jmcquown wrote:

> On 11/11/2019 12:24 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Gary wrote:
> >
> > > Gary wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Look more at the grocery store McCormack spices. Many sell for
> > > > up to $100 per pound. No wonder in the old days, ships went
> > > > to China for spices. Worth more than gold back then.
> > >
> > > Correction: sell for up to $100 per OUNCE, not per pound.

> >
> > Thats why many of the locals here have been using savory spice shop.
> > We used to use Penzey's until the owner abused our trust by using
> > our email addresses to spam us with political views (no relation to
> > spices).
> >

> I didn't like that about Penzey's, either, Carol. Don't drag
> customers into your politics.
>
> I don't have a spice shop nor any sort of international market near
> where I live now. At one time I did live near an actual Penzey's
> Market. They opened a store in Germantown, TN. A hop, skip and a
> jump from my apartment. And I was taking some classes for work
> practically across the street shortly after they opened. So I went
> in there one day on the lunch break. OMG... the heavenly scent of
> herbs and spices was amazing. They had little baskets set out like
> potpourri. I spent an entire hour in there. I have to say, Penzey's
> shops smell wonderful. I didn't walk out empty handed.
>
> Jill


Smile, they have one in Richmond I gather (nearest place to me).
Meantime, we mail order. Small cadre of scratch cooks who tend to be a
bit fancier than a diner sort of cook fare. Folks who know what
Charnushka is and what it goes with. The sort who make their own
vanilla extract.
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On 11/16/2019 9:20 PM, cshenk wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 11/11/2019 12:24 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Look more at the grocery store McCormack spices. Many sell for
>>>>> up to $100 per pound. No wonder in the old days, ships went
>>>>> to China for spices. Worth more than gold back then.
>>>>
>>>> Correction: sell for up to $100 per OUNCE, not per pound.
>>>
>>> Thats why many of the locals here have been using savory spice shop.
>>> We used to use Penzey's until the owner abused our trust by using
>>> our email addresses to spam us with political views (no relation to
>>> spices).
>>>

>> I didn't like that about Penzey's, either, Carol. Don't drag
>> customers into your politics.
>>
>> I don't have a spice shop nor any sort of international market near
>> where I live now. At one time I did live near an actual Penzey's
>> Market. They opened a store in Germantown, TN. A hop, skip and a
>> jump from my apartment. And I was taking some classes for work
>> practically across the street shortly after they opened. So I went
>> in there one day on the lunch break. OMG... the heavenly scent of
>> herbs and spices was amazing. They had little baskets set out like
>> potpourri. I spent an entire hour in there. I have to say, Penzey's
>> shops smell wonderful. I didn't walk out empty handed.
>>
>> Jill

>
> Smile, they have one in Richmond I gather (nearest place to me).
> Meantime, we mail order. Small cadre of scratch cooks who tend to be a
> bit fancier than a diner sort of cook fare. Folks who know what
> Charnushka is and what it goes with. The sort who make their own
> vanilla extract.
>

Uh, okay. I was merely saying how great it smells when you walk into an
actual Penzey's shop.

Jill
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jmcquown wrote:

> On 11/16/2019 9:20 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > > On 11/11/2019 12:24 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > > Gary wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Gary wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Look more at the grocery store McCormack spices. Many sell
> > > > > > for up to $100 per pound. No wonder in the old days, ships
> > > > > > went to China for spices. Worth more than gold back then.
> > > > >
> > > > > Correction: sell for up to $100 per OUNCE, not per pound.
> > > >
> > > > Thats why many of the locals here have been using savory spice
> > > > shop. We used to use Penzey's until the owner abused our trust
> > > > by using our email addresses to spam us with political views
> > > > (no relation to spices).
> > > >
> > > I didn't like that about Penzey's, either, Carol. Don't drag
> > > customers into your politics.
> > >
> > > I don't have a spice shop nor any sort of international market
> > > near where I live now. At one time I did live near an actual
> > > Penzey's Market. They opened a store in Germantown, TN. A hop,
> > > skip and a jump from my apartment. And I was taking some classes
> > > for work practically across the street shortly after they opened.
> > > So I went in there one day on the lunch break. OMG... the
> > > heavenly scent of herbs and spices was amazing. They had little
> > > baskets set out like potpourri. I spent an entire hour in there.
> > > I have to say, Penzey's shops smell wonderful. I didn't walk
> > > out empty handed.
> > >
> > > Jill

> >
> > Smile, they have one in Richmond I gather (nearest place to me).
> > Meantime, we mail order. Small cadre of scratch cooks who tend to
> > be a bit fancier than a diner sort of cook fare. Folks who know
> > what Charnushka is and what it goes with. The sort who make their
> > own vanilla extract.
> >

> Uh, okay. I was merely saying how great it smells when you walk into
> an actual Penzey's shop.
>
> Jill


It's ok, I know. I just added more in. That type of shop is one of
the very few things we don't have here. I somehow resist driving a 400
mile round distance just to sniff a spice shop (grin).
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