I got this set of mixing bowls when I got my first apartment.

https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Pyrex...teway&sr=8-135

The listing says they were made in the 80's. That could be. I thought I got
mine in the late 70's, but at any rate, they are about 40 years old. The
blue one had an accident within the first two weeks. I took bread dough from
it, put the dough in the pan, washed the bowl, went in the other room, heard
a crash and found the bowl on the floor, cracked in a few pieces. It was
replaced with a clear blue bowl. Still have that.

Fast forward to yesterday. My gardener asked for gluten free blueberry
pastry and some chocolate fudge. I have to do more research on the pastry so
he's getting gluten free oatmeal blueberry bars. I used the red bowl to make
those. Put them in the oven, washed the bowl, then used it to make microwave
chocolate fudge.

Washed the bowl again and set it in the dish drainer. Apparently I placed it
too close to the edge because it slipped into the sink. I tried to catch it
but was too slow. Mind you, it did not drop from a great height. The drainer
is shallow and is right next to the sink. So it just kind of slid.

Now I have never seen this happen before but perhaps it is because the glass
is so old. It did not break into large pieces. I'd say about half formed
small flakes, or tiny bits like sand. It was as if it broke off in layers!
The largest of the bits were not even as big as a dime.

The worst part is that I have a garbage disposal. I watched the bowl land on
the bottom at the opening to the disposal. I'm sure some glass went down it
right off the bat but I watched as if in slow motion as the pile of bits
collapsed and went down the sink. And then I went fishing.

I have cuts all over my right hand and arm and somehow both knees. A sharp
bit landed on the floor and I guess my knees went on it as I got down under
the sink to unplug and fiddle with the disposal. I spent 5 hours removing
glass. I finally saw advice online about using a shop vac. I do have one but
the gardener was using it but I don't know where he put it.

The wrench that came with the disposal is missing and none of my Allen
wrenches seem to be the right size. The gardener has more. Meanwhile, I
ordered the correct wrench from Amazon and hopefully he can get it going
again.

But in thinking about Steve and his accident, it's a wonder this didn't
happen in the microwave! That's a scary thought!

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...

I got this set of mixing bowls when I got my first apartment.

https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Pyrex...teway&sr=8-135

The listing says they were made in the 80's. That could be. I thought I got
mine in the late 70's, but at any rate, they are about 40 years old. The
blue one had an accident within the first two weeks. I took bread dough from
it, put the dough in the pan, washed the bowl, went in the other room, heard
a crash and found the bowl on the floor, cracked in a few pieces. It was
replaced with a clear blue bowl. Still have that.

Fast forward to yesterday. My gardener asked for gluten free blueberry
pastry and some chocolate fudge. I have to do more research on the pastry so
he's getting gluten free oatmeal blueberry bars. I used the red bowl to make
those. Put them in the oven, washed the bowl, then used it to make microwave
chocolate fudge.

Washed the bowl again and set it in the dish drainer. Apparently I placed it
too close to the edge because it slipped into the sink. I tried to catch it
but was too slow. Mind you, it did not drop from a great height. The drainer
is shallow and is right next to the sink. So it just kind of slid.

Now I have never seen this happen before but perhaps it is because the glass
is so old. It did not break into large pieces. I'd say about half formed
small flakes, or tiny bits like sand. It was as if it broke off in layers!
The largest of the bits were not even as big as a dime.

The worst part is that I have a garbage disposal. I watched the bowl land on
the bottom at the opening to the disposal. I'm sure some glass went down it
right off the bat but I watched as if in slow motion as the pile of bits
collapsed and went down the sink. And then I went fishing.

I have cuts all over my right hand and arm and somehow both knees. A sharp
bit landed on the floor and I guess my knees went on it as I got down under
the sink to unplug and fiddle with the disposal. I spent 5 hours removing
glass. I finally saw advice online about using a shop vac. I do have one but
the gardener was using it but I don't know where he put it.

The wrench that came with the disposal is missing and none of my Allen
wrenches seem to be the right size. The gardener has more. Meanwhile, I
ordered the correct wrench from Amazon and hopefully he can get it going
again.

But in thinking about Steve and his accident, it's a wonder this didn't
happen in the microwave! That's a scary thought!

====

Oh my!!! You have put me off Pyrex for good. I don't have a lot and
have been using it for decades but ...

On 8/31/2019 10:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> Oh my!!! You have put me off Pyrex for good. I don't have a lot and
> have been using it for decades but ...
>
The _European-made_ Pyrex is still borosilicate - currently, it's just
the _US_ stuff which explodes...

"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/31/2019 10:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> Oh my!!! You have put me off Pyrex for good. I don't have a lot and
>> have been using it for decades but ...
>>
> The _European-made_ Pyrex is still borosilicate - currently, it's just the
> _US_ stuff which explodes...

Mine was old enough to be the good stuff. I think it just aged out.

S Viemeister wrote:
>
> On 8/31/2019 10:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > Oh my!!! You have put me off Pyrex for good. I don't have a lot and
> > have been using it for decades but ...
> >
> The _European-made_ Pyrex is still borosilicate - currently, it's just
> the _US_ stuff which explodes...

Even in the US with the very old borosilicate Pyrex, it can
happen. The glass gets stressed over the years just from normal
use. What doesn't break it at the time, accumulates as pent up
energy. Eventually one event will release that energy and it
explodes. Earthquakes are very similar. A little movement does
nothing but add more stress. Eventually the stress is too much
and....earthquake.

I had an old Pyrex baking dish literally explode on me years ago
when I didn't use it properly. It ruined my entire dinner as near
the stove were dishes of other food. I'll tell that in another
post sometime.

On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 08:19:31 -0400, Gary wrote:

> What doesn't break it at the time accumulates as pent up energy.

The 'pent-up' energy is from mechanical stress due to thermal or chemical
expansion of the surface during manufactu

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempered_glass

"S Viemeister" wrote in message ...

On 8/31/2019 10:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> Oh my!!! You have put me off Pyrex for good. I don't have a lot and
> have been using it for decades but ...
>
The _European-made_ Pyrex is still borosilicate - currently, it's just
the _US_ stuff which explodes...

===

OH!! Thanks, Sheila!!!

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 4:12:44 AM UTC-5, S Viemeister wrote:
>
> On 8/31/2019 10:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > Oh my!!! You have put me off Pyrex for good. I don't have a lot and
> > have been using it for decades but ...
> >
> The _European-made_ Pyrex is still borosilicate - currently, it's just
> the _US_ stuff which explodes...
>
Yes, it's just the junk that's made here. But when you're dealing with OhFeelMe
you're not dealing with someone who is playing with a full deck.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
> I got this set of mixing bowls when I got my first apartment.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Pyrex...teway&sr=8-135
>
> The listing says they were made in the 80's. That could be. I thought I
> got
> mine in the late 70's, but at any rate, they are about 40 years old. The
> blue one had an accident within the first two weeks. I took bread dough
> from
> it, put the dough in the pan, washed the bowl, went in the other room,
> heard
> a crash and found the bowl on the floor, cracked in a few pieces. It was
> replaced with a clear blue bowl. Still have that.
>
> Fast forward to yesterday. My gardener asked for gluten free blueberry
> pastry and some chocolate fudge. I have to do more research on the pastry
> so
> he's getting gluten free oatmeal blueberry bars. I used the red bowl to
> make
> those. Put them in the oven, washed the bowl, then used it to make
> microwave
> chocolate fudge.
>
> Washed the bowl again and set it in the dish drainer. Apparently I placed
> it
> too close to the edge because it slipped into the sink. I tried to catch
> it
> but was too slow. Mind you, it did not drop from a great height. The
> drainer
> is shallow and is right next to the sink. So it just kind of slid.
>
> Now I have never seen this happen before but perhaps it is because the
> glass
> is so old. It did not break into large pieces. I'd say about half formed
> small flakes, or tiny bits like sand. It was as if it broke off in layers!
> The largest of the bits were not even as big as a dime.
>
> The worst part is that I have a garbage disposal. I watched the bowl land
> on
> the bottom at the opening to the disposal. I'm sure some glass went down
> it
> right off the bat but I watched as if in slow motion as the pile of bits
> collapsed and went down the sink. And then I went fishing.
>
> I have cuts all over my right hand and arm and somehow both knees. A sharp
> bit landed on the floor and I guess my knees went on it as I got down
> under
> the sink to unplug and fiddle with the disposal. I spent 5 hours removing
> glass. I finally saw advice online about using a shop vac. I do have one
> but
> the gardener was using it but I don't know where he put it.
>
> The wrench that came with the disposal is missing and none of my Allen
> wrenches seem to be the right size. The gardener has more. Meanwhile, I
> ordered the correct wrench from Amazon and hopefully he can get it going
> again.
>
> But in thinking about Steve and his accident, it's a wonder this didn't
> happen in the microwave! That's a scary thought!
>
> ====
>
> Oh my!!! You have put me off Pyrex for good. I don't have a lot and
> have been using it for decades but ...

What do you use then?

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...


"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
> I got this set of mixing bowls when I got my first apartment.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Pyrex...teway&sr=8-135
>
> The listing says they were made in the 80's. That could be. I thought I
> got
> mine in the late 70's, but at any rate, they are about 40 years old. The
> blue one had an accident within the first two weeks. I took bread dough
> from
> it, put the dough in the pan, washed the bowl, went in the other room,
> heard
> a crash and found the bowl on the floor, cracked in a few pieces. It was
> replaced with a clear blue bowl. Still have that.
>
> Fast forward to yesterday. My gardener asked for gluten free blueberry
> pastry and some chocolate fudge. I have to do more research on the pastry
> so
> he's getting gluten free oatmeal blueberry bars. I used the red bowl to
> make
> those. Put them in the oven, washed the bowl, then used it to make
> microwave
> chocolate fudge.
>
> Washed the bowl again and set it in the dish drainer. Apparently I placed
> it
> too close to the edge because it slipped into the sink. I tried to catch
> it
> but was too slow. Mind you, it did not drop from a great height. The
> drainer
> is shallow and is right next to the sink. So it just kind of slid.
>
> Now I have never seen this happen before but perhaps it is because the
> glass
> is so old. It did not break into large pieces. I'd say about half formed
> small flakes, or tiny bits like sand. It was as if it broke off in layers!
> The largest of the bits were not even as big as a dime.
>
> The worst part is that I have a garbage disposal. I watched the bowl land
> on
> the bottom at the opening to the disposal. I'm sure some glass went down
> it
> right off the bat but I watched as if in slow motion as the pile of bits
> collapsed and went down the sink. And then I went fishing.
>
> I have cuts all over my right hand and arm and somehow both knees. A sharp
> bit landed on the floor and I guess my knees went on it as I got down
> under
> the sink to unplug and fiddle with the disposal. I spent 5 hours removing
> glass. I finally saw advice online about using a shop vac. I do have one
> but
> the gardener was using it but I don't know where he put it.
>
> The wrench that came with the disposal is missing and none of my Allen
> wrenches seem to be the right size. The gardener has more. Meanwhile, I
> ordered the correct wrench from Amazon and hopefully he can get it going
> again.
>
> But in thinking about Steve and his accident, it's a wonder this didn't
> happen in the microwave! That's a scary thought!
>
> ====
>
> Oh my!!! You have put me off Pyrex for good. I don't have a lot and
> have been using it for decades but ...

What do you use then?

===

I have been using my Pyrex but I have plenty of metal oven pans.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...

>
> What do you use then?
>
> ===
>
> I have been using my Pyrex but I have plenty of metal oven pans.

This was a mixing bowl.

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...


"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...

>
> What do you use then?
>
> ===
>
> I have been using my Pyrex but I have plenty of metal oven pans.

This was a mixing bowl.

-----

My mixing bowl isn't pyrex. These are mine.

https://www.lakeland.co.uk/32210/Mas...g!296910689003!

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Julie Bove" wrote:
> But in thinking about Steve and his accident, it's a wonder this didn't
> happen in the microwave! That's a scary thought!
>
> ====
>
> Oh my!!! You have put me off Pyrex for good. I don't have a lot and
> have been using it for decades but ...

No worries about using old or new pyrex, just treat them
properly.
With old ones, they have been used for years and maybe even some
scratches so not quite as durable as brand new.

In Steve's case, he put his right into an instantly hot microwave
from the refrigerator with no warming up a bit time. I don't know
about all microwaves but most don't actually heat with half power
when using the thaw setting. They run at full power for so many
seconds, then turn off for so many seconds. They rotate from on
to off even though the turntable is still turning. To try to go
from very cold to very hot in a minute or two is stressful for
any glass product.

Anyone that ever took a chemistry class in school first learned
to "temper" their glassware (test tubes, beakers, Erlenmeyer
flasks, etc) by passing it over the bunsen burner a few times
before setting it in a rack right over the constant flame.

In Julie's cases (2 of them), both times, she washed then set
them both where one fell on the floor and the other fell into her
sink. That's not Pyrex fault, that's just Julie not putting them
somewhere properly.

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Julie Bove" wrote:
> But in thinking about Steve and his accident, it's a wonder this didn't
> happen in the microwave! That's a scary thought!
>
> ====
>
> Oh my!!! You have put me off Pyrex for good. I don't have a lot and
> have been using it for decades but ...

No worries about using old or new pyrex, just treat them
properly.
With old ones, they have been used for years and maybe even some
scratches so not quite as durable as brand new.

In Steve's case, he put his right into an instantly hot microwave
from the refrigerator with no warming up a bit time. I don't know
about all microwaves but most don't actually heat with half power
when using the thaw setting. They run at full power for so many
seconds, then turn off for so many seconds. They rotate from on
to off even though the turntable is still turning. To try to go
from very cold to very hot in a minute or two is stressful for
any glass product.

Ahh yes! I would never that. Too much stress!!!

Anyone that ever took a chemistry class in school first learned
to "temper" their glassware (test tubes, beakers, Erlenmeyer
flasks, etc) by passing it over the bunsen burner a few times
before setting it in a rack right over the constant flame.

In Julie's cases (2 of them), both times, she washed then set
them both where one fell on the floor and the other fell into her
sink. That's not Pyrex fault, that's just Julie not putting them
somewhere properly.

"Bud Frede" wrote in message ...

Gary > writes:

> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>> But in thinking about Steve and his accident, it's a wonder this didn't
>> happen in the microwave! That's a scary thought!
>>
>> ====
>>
>> Oh my!!! You have put me off Pyrex for good. I don't have a lot and
>> have been using it for decades but ...
>
> No worries about using old or new pyrex, just treat them
> properly.
> With old ones, they have been used for years and maybe even some
> scratches so not quite as durable as brand new.

Many years ago I was told that pyrex beakers and other labware should be
disposed of when they get a lot of scratches or surface
abrasion. Supposedly it weakened them and made them prone to shattering
or cracking.

I wonder if this could be what happened with this old pyrex?

====

Sheila did explain that the Pyrex in USA is different to that in UK.,
although I would never put any Pyrex which is very cold directly into heat
anyway.

"Bud Frede" > wrote in message
...
> Gary > writes:
>
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>> But in thinking about Steve and his accident, it's a wonder this didn't
>>> happen in the microwave! That's a scary thought!
>>>
>>> ====
>>>
>>> Oh my!!! You have put me off Pyrex for good. I don't have a lot
>>> and
>>> have been using it for decades but ...
>>
>> No worries about using old or new pyrex, just treat them
>> properly.
>> With old ones, they have been used for years and maybe even some
>> scratches so not quite as durable as brand new.
>
> Many years ago I was told that pyrex beakers and other labware should be
> disposed of when they get a lot of scratches or surface
> abrasion. Supposedly it weakened them and made them prone to shattering
> or cracking.
>
> I wonder if this could be what happened with this old pyrex?

Some of the paint was coming off, but no scratches.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Bud Frede" wrote:
> > Many years ago I was told that pyrex beakers and other labware should be
> > disposed of when they get a lot of scratches or surface
> > abrasion. Supposedly it weakened them and made them prone to shattering
> > or cracking.
> > I wonder if this could be what happened with this old pyrex?
>
> Some of the paint was coming off, but no scratches.

Paint? I've got quite a bit of the Pyrex from the early 1980s.
All of my various Pyrex is clear glass. No paint.

Regardless, you carelessly dropped yours, Julie. That speaks
nothing about the pyrex quality.

On 9/1/2019 9:11 AM, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Bud Frede" wrote:
>>> Many years ago I was told that pyrex beakers and other labware should be
>>> disposed of when they get a lot of scratches or surface
>>> abrasion. Supposedly it weakened them and made them prone to shattering
>>> or cracking.
>>> I wonder if this could be what happened with this old pyrex?
>>
>> Some of the paint was coming off, but no scratches.
>
> Paint? I've got quite a bit of the Pyrex from the early 1980s.
> All of my various Pyrex is clear glass. No paint.
>
I think she means glaze. The colour is painted on, then it's fired.

> Regardless, you carelessly dropped yours, Julie. That speaks
> nothing about the pyrex quality.
>
She said she put it in the dish drainer but it slid off into the sink
and shattered. I'm trying to picture a dish drainer that a mixing bowl
could slide out of...

Jill

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Bud Frede" wrote:
>> > Many years ago I was told that pyrex beakers and other labware should
>> > be
>> > disposed of when they get a lot of scratches or surface
>> > abrasion. Supposedly it weakened them and made them prone to shattering
>> > or cracking.
>> > I wonder if this could be what happened with this old pyrex?
>>
>> Some of the paint was coming off, but no scratches.
>
> Paint? I've got quite a bit of the Pyrex from the early 1980s.
> All of my various Pyrex is clear glass. No paint.
>
> Regardless, you carelessly dropped yours, Julie. That speaks
> nothing about the pyrex quality.

Mine has color on the outside but is clear on the inside.

On 8/30/19 7:42 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I got this set of mixing bowls when I got my first apartment.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Pyrex...teway&sr=8-135
>
>
> The listing says they were made in the 80's. That could be. I thought I
> got mine in the late 70's, but at any rate, they are about 40 years old.
> The blue one had an accident within the first two weeks. I took bread
> dough from it, put the dough in the pan, washed the bowl, went in the
> other room, heard a crash and found the bowl on the floor, cracked in a
> few pieces. It was replaced with a clear blue bowl. Still have that.
>
> Fast forward to yesterday. My gardener asked for gluten free blueberry
> pastry and some chocolate fudge. I have to do more research on the
> pastry so he's getting gluten free oatmeal blueberry bars. I used the
> red bowl to make those. Put them in the oven, washed the bowl, then used
> it to make microwave chocolate fudge.
>
> Washed the bowl again and set it in the dish drainer. Apparently I
> placed it too close to the edge because it slipped into the sink. I
> tried to catch it but was too slow. Mind you, it did not drop from a
> great height. The drainer is shallow and is right next to the sink. So
> it just kind of slid.
>
> Now I have never seen this happen before but perhaps it is because the
> glass is so old. It did not break into large pieces. I'd say about half
> formed small flakes, or tiny bits like sand. It was as if it broke off
> in layers! The largest of the bits were not even as big as a dime.
>
> The worst part is that I have a garbage disposal. I watched the bowl
> land on the bottom at the opening to the disposal. I'm sure some glass
> went down it right off the bat but I watched as if in slow motion as the
> pile of bits collapsed and went down the sink. And then I went fishing.
>
> I have cuts all over my right hand and arm and somehow both knees. A
> sharp bit landed on the floor and I guess my knees went on it as I got
> down under the sink to unplug and fiddle with the disposal. I spent 5
> hours removing glass. I finally saw advice online about using a shop
> vac. I do have one but the gardener was using it but I don't know where
> he put it.
>
> The wrench that came with the disposal is missing and none of my Allen
> wrenches seem to be the right size. The gardener has more. Meanwhile, I
> ordered the correct wrench from Amazon and hopefully he can get it going
> again.
>
> But in thinking about Steve and his accident, it's a wonder this didn't
> happen in the microwave! That's a scary thought!
>
>
a good garbage disposal should be able to crunch glass. I just had the
same thing happen and had no problem grinding it away

ZZyXX wrote:
> On 8/30/19 7:42 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I got this set of mixing bowls when I got my first apartment.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Pyrex...teway&sr=8-135
>>
>>
>> The listing says they were made in the 80's. That could be. I
>> thought I got mine in the late 70's, but at any rate, they are
>> about 40 years old. The blue one had an accident within the first
>> two weeks. I took bread dough from it, put the dough in the pan,
>> washed the bowl, went in the other room, heard a crash and found
>> the bowl on the floor, cracked in a few pieces. It was replaced
>> with a clear blue bowl. Still have that.
>>
>> Fast forward to yesterday. My gardener asked for gluten free
>> blueberry pastry and some chocolate fudge. I have to do more
>> research on the pastry so he's getting gluten free oatmeal
>> blueberry bars. I used the red bowl to make those. Put them in the
>> oven, washed the bowl, then used it to make microwave chocolate
>> fudge.
>>
>> Washed the bowl again and set it in the dish drainer. Apparently I
>> placed it too close to the edge because it slipped into the sink.
>> I tried to catch it but was too slow. Mind you, it did not drop
>> from a great height. The drainer is shallow and is right next to
>> the sink. So it just kind of slid.
>>
>> Now I have never seen this happen before but perhaps it is because
>> the glass is so old. It did not break into large pieces. I'd say
>> about half formed small flakes, or tiny bits like sand. It was as
>> if it broke off in layers! The largest of the bits were not even
>> as big as a dime.
>>
>> The worst part is that I have a garbage disposal. I watched the
>> bowl land on the bottom at the opening to the disposal. I'm sure
>> some glass went down it right off the bat but I watched as if in
>> slow motion as the pile of bits collapsed and went down the sink.
>> And then I went fishing.
>>
>> I have cuts all over my right hand and arm and somehow both knees.
>> A sharp bit landed on the floor and I guess my knees went on it as
>> I got down under the sink to unplug and fiddle with the disposal.
>> I spent 5 hours removing glass. I finally saw advice online about
>> using a shop vac. I do have one but the gardener was using it but
>> I don't know where he put it.
>>
>> The wrench that came with the disposal is missing and none of my
>> Allen wrenches seem to be the right size. The gardener has more.
>> Meanwhile, I ordered the correct wrench from Amazon and hopefully
>> he can get it going again.
>>
>> But in thinking about Steve and his accident, it's a wonder this
>> didn't happen in the microwave! That's a scary thought!
>>
>>
> a good garbage disposal should be able to crunch glass. I just had
> the same thing happen and had no problem grinding it away

Yeah, but she's in Bothel. I lived nearby in south Tacoma and
Tillicum a few years in the army stationed at Ft. Lewis. It's
normal there. Weird shit happens in her area. It's like the twilight
zone in Bothel.

Tacoma and seattle are fairly normal, but when you get close to
bothel, weird shit starts happening. It's just weird there.

"ZZyXX" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/30/19 7:42 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I got this set of mixing bowls when I got my first apartment.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Pyrex...teway&sr=8-135
>> The listing says they were made in the 80's. That could be. I thought I
>> got mine in the late 70's, but at any rate, they are about 40 years old.
>> The blue one had an accident within the first two weeks. I took bread
>> dough from it, put the dough in the pan, washed the bowl, went in the
>> other room, heard a crash and found the bowl on the floor, cracked in a
>> few pieces. It was replaced with a clear blue bowl. Still have that.
>>
>> Fast forward to yesterday. My gardener asked for gluten free blueberry
>> pastry and some chocolate fudge. I have to do more research on the pastry
>> so he's getting gluten free oatmeal blueberry bars. I used the red bowl
>> to make those. Put them in the oven, washed the bowl, then used it to
>> make microwave chocolate fudge.
>>
>> Washed the bowl again and set it in the dish drainer. Apparently I placed
>> it too close to the edge because it slipped into the sink. I tried to
>> catch it but was too slow. Mind you, it did not drop from a great height.
>> The drainer is shallow and is right next to the sink. So it just kind of
>> slid.
>>
>> Now I have never seen this happen before but perhaps it is because the
>> glass is so old. It did not break into large pieces. I'd say about half
>> formed small flakes, or tiny bits like sand. It was as if it broke off in
>> layers! The largest of the bits were not even as big as a dime.
>>
>> The worst part is that I have a garbage disposal. I watched the bowl land
>> on the bottom at the opening to the disposal. I'm sure some glass went
>> down it right off the bat but I watched as if in slow motion as the pile
>> of bits collapsed and went down the sink. And then I went fishing.
>>
>> I have cuts all over my right hand and arm and somehow both knees. A
>> sharp bit landed on the floor and I guess my knees went on it as I got
>> down under the sink to unplug and fiddle with the disposal. I spent 5
>> hours removing glass. I finally saw advice online about using a shop vac.
>> I do have one but the gardener was using it but I don't know where he put
>> it.
>>
>> The wrench that came with the disposal is missing and none of my Allen
>> wrenches seem to be the right size. The gardener has more. Meanwhile, I
>> ordered the correct wrench from Amazon and hopefully he can get it going
>> again.
>>
>> But in thinking about Steve and his accident, it's a wonder this didn't
>> happen in the microwave! That's a scary thought!
>>
>>
> a good garbage disposal should be able to crunch glass. I just had the
> same thing happen and had no problem grinding it away

Dunno.

On 8/31/2019 7:34 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "ZZyXX" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 8/30/19 7:42 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I got this set of mixing bowls when I got my first apartment.
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Pyrex...teway&sr=8-135
>>> The listing says they were made in the 80's. That could be. I thought
>>> I got mine in the late 70's, but at any rate, they are about 40 years
>>> old. The blue one had an accident within the first two weeks. I took
>>> bread dough from it, put the dough in the pan, washed the bowl, went
>>> in the other room, heard a crash and found the bowl on the floor,
>>> cracked in a few pieces. It was replaced with a clear blue bowl.
>>> Still have that.
>>>
>>> Fast forward to yesterday. My gardener asked for gluten free
>>> blueberry pastry and some chocolate fudge. I have to do more research
>>> on the pastry so he's getting gluten free oatmeal blueberry bars. I
>>> used the red bowl to make those. Put them in the oven, washed the
>>> bowl, then used it to make microwave chocolate fudge.
>>>
>>> Washed the bowl again and set it in the dish drainer. Apparently I
>>> placed it too close to the edge because it slipped into the sink. I
>>> tried to catch it but was too slow. Mind you, it did not drop from a
>>> great height. The drainer is shallow and is right next to the sink.
>>> So it just kind of slid.
>>>
>>> Now I have never seen this happen before but perhaps it is because
>>> the glass is so old. It did not break into large pieces. I'd say
>>> about half formed small flakes, or tiny bits like sand. It was as if
>>> it broke off in layers! The largest of the bits were not even as big
>>> as a dime.
>>>
>>> The worst part is that I have a garbage disposal. I watched the bowl
>>> land on the bottom at the opening to the disposal. I'm sure some
>>> glass went down it right off the bat but I watched as if in slow
>>> motion as the pile of bits collapsed and went down the sink. And then
>>> I went fishing.
>>>
>>> I have cuts all over my right hand and arm and somehow both knees. A
>>> sharp bit landed on the floor and I guess my knees went on it as I
>>> got down under the sink to unplug and fiddle with the disposal. I
>>> spent 5 hours removing glass. I finally saw advice online about using
>>> a shop vac. I do have one but the gardener was using it but I don't
>>> know where he put it.
>>>
>>> The wrench that came with the disposal is missing and none of my
>>> Allen wrenches seem to be the right size. The gardener has more.
>>> Meanwhile, I ordered the correct wrench from Amazon and hopefully he
>>> can get it going again.
>>>
>>> But in thinking about Steve and his accident, it's a wonder this
>>> didn't happen in the microwave! That's a scary thought!
>>>
>>>
>> a good garbage disposal should be able to crunch glass. I just had the
>> same thing happen and had no problem grinding it away
>
> Dunno.

Some years ago a neighbor accidentally dropped a beer bottle in the
disposal. He said it ran better after that and put a bottle in every
few months.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/31/2019 7:34 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "ZZyXX" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 8/30/19 7:42 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> I got this set of mixing bowls when I got my first apartment.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Pyrex...teway&sr=8-135
>>>> The listing says they were made in the 80's. That could be. I thought I
>>>> got mine in the late 70's, but at any rate, they are about 40 years
>>>> old. The blue one had an accident within the first two weeks. I took
>>>> bread dough from it, put the dough in the pan, washed the bowl, went in
>>>> the other room, heard a crash and found the bowl on the floor, cracked
>>>> in a few pieces. It was replaced with a clear blue bowl. Still have
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> Fast forward to yesterday. My gardener asked for gluten free blueberry
>>>> pastry and some chocolate fudge. I have to do more research on the
>>>> pastry so he's getting gluten free oatmeal blueberry bars. I used the
>>>> red bowl to make those. Put them in the oven, washed the bowl, then
>>>> used it to make microwave chocolate fudge.
>>>>
>>>> Washed the bowl again and set it in the dish drainer. Apparently I
>>>> placed it too close to the edge because it slipped into the sink. I
>>>> tried to catch it but was too slow. Mind you, it did not drop from a
>>>> great height. The drainer is shallow and is right next to the sink. So
>>>> it just kind of slid.
>>>>
>>>> Now I have never seen this happen before but perhaps it is because the
>>>> glass is so old. It did not break into large pieces. I'd say about half
>>>> formed small flakes, or tiny bits like sand. It was as if it broke off
>>>> in layers! The largest of the bits were not even as big as a dime.
>>>>
>>>> The worst part is that I have a garbage disposal. I watched the bowl
>>>> land on the bottom at the opening to the disposal. I'm sure some glass
>>>> went down it right off the bat but I watched as if in slow motion as
>>>> the pile of bits collapsed and went down the sink. And then I went
>>>> fishing.
>>>>
>>>> I have cuts all over my right hand and arm and somehow both knees. A
>>>> sharp bit landed on the floor and I guess my knees went on it as I got
>>>> down under the sink to unplug and fiddle with the disposal. I spent 5
>>>> hours removing glass. I finally saw advice online about using a shop
>>>> vac. I do have one but the gardener was using it but I don't know where
>>>> he put it.
>>>>
>>>> The wrench that came with the disposal is missing and none of my Allen
>>>> wrenches seem to be the right size. The gardener has more. Meanwhile, I
>>>> ordered the correct wrench from Amazon and hopefully he can get it
>>>> going again.
>>>>
>>>> But in thinking about Steve and his accident, it's a wonder this didn't
>>>> happen in the microwave! That's a scary thought!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> a good garbage disposal should be able to crunch glass. I just had the
>>> same thing happen and had no problem grinding it away
>>
>> Dunno.
>
> Some years ago a neighbor accidentally dropped a beer bottle in the
> disposal. He said it ran better after that and put a bottle in every few
> months.

Weird!

I suppose it's possible that something else got in there that I don't know
about.

I got the wrench from Amazon today. Got it working, but the next time I
tried to use it, it made the whirring sound then went silent. Got down under
the sink and not only had some little metal part with two screws come off
and was just hanging on the cord, but the cord was no longer in the socket.
Put those things straight, used the wrench again and got it working.

On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 1:01:45 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 8/31/2019 7:34 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>
> >> "ZZyXX" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On 8/30/19 7:42 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>> I got this set of mixing bowls when I got my first apartment.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Pyrex...teway&sr=8-135
> >>>> The listing says they were made in the 80's. That could be. I thought I
> >>>> got mine in the late 70's, but at any rate, they are about 40 years
> >>>> old. The blue one had an accident within the first two weeks. I took
> >>>> bread dough from it, put the dough in the pan, washed the bowl, went in
> >>>> the other room, heard a crash and found the bowl on the floor, cracked
> >>>> in a few pieces. It was replaced with a clear blue bowl. Still have
> >>>> that.
> >>>>
> >>>> Fast forward to yesterday. My gardener asked for gluten free blueberry
> >>>> pastry and some chocolate fudge. I have to do more research on the
> >>>> pastry so he's getting gluten free oatmeal blueberry bars. I used the
> >>>> red bowl to make those. Put them in the oven, washed the bowl, then
> >>>> used it to make microwave chocolate fudge.
> >>>>
> >>>> Washed the bowl again and set it in the dish drainer. Apparently I
> >>>> placed it too close to the edge because it slipped into the sink. I
> >>>> tried to catch it but was too slow. Mind you, it did not drop from a
> >>>> great height. The drainer is shallow and is right next to the sink. So
> >>>> it just kind of slid.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now I have never seen this happen before but perhaps it is because the
> >>>> glass is so old. It did not break into large pieces. I'd say about half
> >>>> formed small flakes, or tiny bits like sand. It was as if it broke off
> >>>> in layers! The largest of the bits were not even as big as a dime.
> >>>>
> >>>> The worst part is that I have a garbage disposal. I watched the bowl
> >>>> land on the bottom at the opening to the disposal. I'm sure some glass
> >>>> went down it right off the bat but I watched as if in slow motion as
> >>>> the pile of bits collapsed and went down the sink. And then I went
> >>>> fishing.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have cuts all over my right hand and arm and somehow both knees. A
> >>>> sharp bit landed on the floor and I guess my knees went on it as I got
> >>>> down under the sink to unplug and fiddle with the disposal. I spent 5
> >>>> hours removing glass. I finally saw advice online about using a shop
> >>>> vac. I do have one but the gardener was using it but I don't know where
> >>>> he put it.
> >>>>
> >>>> The wrench that came with the disposal is missing and none of my Allen
> >>>> wrenches seem to be the right size. The gardener has more. Meanwhile, I
> >>>> ordered the correct wrench from Amazon and hopefully he can get it
> >>>> going again.
> >>>>
> >>>> But in thinking about Steve and his accident, it's a wonder this didn't
> >>>> happen in the microwave! That's a scary thought!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> a good garbage disposal should be able to crunch glass. I just had the
> >>> same thing happen and had no problem grinding it away
> >>
> >> Dunno.
> >
> > Some years ago a neighbor accidentally dropped a beer bottle in the
> > disposal. He said it ran better after that and put a bottle in every few
> > months.
>
> Weird!
>
> I suppose it's possible that something else got in there that I don't know
> about.
>
> I got the wrench from Amazon today. Got it working, but the next time I
> tried to use it, it made the whirring sound then went silent. Got down under
> the sink and not only had some little metal part with two screws come off
> and was just hanging on the cord, but the cord was no longer in the socket.
> Put those things straight, used the wrench again and got it working.

Perhaps you should call your kitchen the "Chaotic Kitchen" as you have such
strange problems within its walls.
====

On 03:34 1 Sep 2019, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 8/31/2019 7:34 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "ZZyXX" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 8/30/19 7:42 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> I got this set of mixing bowls when I got my first apartment.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Pyrex-Primary-Mixing-
Bottom/dp/B00RV6OV
>>>> D8/ref=sr_1_135?keywords=vintage+pyrex+mixing+bowls&q id=1567218158
&s=g
>>>> ateway&sr=8-135 The listing says they were made in the 80's. That
>>>> could be. I thought I got mine in the late 70's, but at any rate,
>>>> they are about 40 years old. The blue one had an accident within the
>>>> first two weeks. I took bread dough from it, put the dough in the
>>>> pan, washed the bowl, went in the other room, heard a crash and found
>>>> the bowl on the floor, cracked in a few pieces. It was replaced with
>>>> a clear blue bowl. Still have that.
>>>>
>>>> Fast forward to yesterday. My gardener asked for gluten free
>>>> blueberry pastry and some chocolate fudge. I have to do more research
>>>> on the pastry so he's getting gluten free oatmeal blueberry bars. I
>>>> used the red bowl to make those. Put them in the oven, washed the
>>>> bowl, then used it to make microwave chocolate fudge.
>>>>
>>>> Washed the bowl again and set it in the dish drainer. Apparently I
>>>> placed it too close to the edge because it slipped into the sink. I
>>>> tried to catch it but was too slow. Mind you, it did not drop from a
>>>> great height. The drainer is shallow and is right next to the sink.
>>>> So it just kind of slid.
>>>>
>>>> Now I have never seen this happen before but perhaps it is because
>>>> the glass is so old. It did not break into large pieces. I'd say
>>>> about half formed small flakes, or tiny bits like sand. It was as if
>>>> it broke off in layers! The largest of the bits were not even as big
>>>> as a dime.
>>>>
>>>> The worst part is that I have a garbage disposal. I watched the bowl
>>>> land on the bottom at the opening to the disposal. I'm sure some
>>>> glass went down it right off the bat but I watched as if in slow
>>>> motion as the pile of bits collapsed and went down the sink. And then
>>>> I went fishing.
>>>>
>>>> I have cuts all over my right hand and arm and somehow both knees. A
>>>> sharp bit landed on the floor and I guess my knees went on it as I
>>>> got down under the sink to unplug and fiddle with the disposal. I
>>>> spent 5 hours removing glass. I finally saw advice online about using
>>>> a shop vac. I do have one but the gardener was using it but I don't
>>>> know where he put it.
>>>>
>>>> The wrench that came with the disposal is missing and none of my
>>>> Allen wrenches seem to be the right size. The gardener has more.
>>>> Meanwhile, I ordered the correct wrench from Amazon and hopefully he
>>>> can get it going again.
>>>>
>>>> But in thinking about Steve and his accident, it's a wonder this
>>>> didn't happen in the microwave! That's a scary thought!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> a good garbage disposal should be able to crunch glass. I just had the
>>> same thing happen and had no problem grinding it away
>>
>> Dunno.
>
> Some years ago a neighbor accidentally dropped a beer bottle in the
> disposal. He said it ran better after that and put a bottle in every
> few months.

Some people put sandpaper in their document shredder as it's said to
sharpen the blades. Maybe bottles in the garbage disposal unit does
something similar.

Pamela wrote:
>
> Some people put sandpaper in their document shredder as it's said to
> sharpen the blades. Maybe bottles in the garbage disposal unit does
> something similar.

Recommended is to dump a tray of ice cubes into your drain, turn
on cold water, then use the garbage disposal. That hard ice
supposedly will sharpen blades. If one gets caught, it will melt
with no worries. Putting glass in one is the stupidest thing I've
ever heard.

Pamela wrote:
> Some people put sandpaper in their document shredder as it's said to
> sharpen the blades.

Unbelievable, the claims posted here. LOL

Most if not all of the ovenware I have is older than I am I'm old.