I've heard about this place and finally go there today.
https://www.mazzarosmarket.com/

It is quite a place with mostly Italian foods. They have not only just
about every ingredient you can imagine to make an Italian meal you can
also buy many prepared items, ready to cook.

Many places have provolone cheese, but this is the first time I've seen
provolone stravecchio (extra aged) outside of Italy. Had to get some.

I bought enough for three of us for dinner tonight. Lasagna was good,
but I had better. Tomato and mozzarella salad was delicious, bread
good. The cannoli were the best I remember ever having.

The wine was good too. I passed on the $85 stuff and bought a more
sensibly priced one. They carry wine from every region of Italy as well
as Spain and Portugal that I saw.

Meat counter has some great looking steaks. I got veal chops for
another night. Also chicken parm for tomorrow.

Now you could go crazy in there and easily spend $120. That would be
foolish and frivolous. I only spent $119.

On 2019-08-26 8:58 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> I've heard about this place and finally go there today.
> https://www.mazzarosmarket.com/
>
> It is quite a place with mostly Italian foods.Â* They have not only just
> about every ingredient you can imagine to make an Italian meal you can
> also buy many prepared items, ready toÂ* cook.
>
> Many places have provolone cheese, but this is the first time I've seen
> provolone stravecchio (extra aged) outside of Italy.Â* Had to get some.
>
> I bought enough for three of us for dinner tonight.Â* Lasagna was good,
> but I had better.Â* Tomato and mozzarella salad was delicious, bread
> good. The cannoli were the best I remember ever having.
>
> The wine was good too.Â* I passed on the $85 stuff and bought a more
> sensibly priced one.Â* They carry wine from every region of Italy as well
> as Spain and Portugal that I saw.
>
> Meat counter has some great looking steaks.Â* I got veal chops for
> another night. Also chicken parm for tomorrow.
>
> Now you could go crazy in there and easily spend $120. That would be
> foolish and frivolous.Â*Â* I only spent $119.

There's a place like that here, sans wine as we have strange liquor
laws. You can judge the place by the huge display case that contains
about 2 dozen complete wheels of Parmigiano Reggiano.

On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 9:58:51 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> I've heard about this place and finally go there today.
> https://www.mazzarosmarket.com/
>
> Now you could go crazy in there and easily spend $120. That would be
> foolish and frivolous. I only spent $119.
>
I'm proud of you for holding yourself back and not blowing a wad of cash.

On 8/26/2019 11:34 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 9:58:51 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> I've heard about this place and finally go there today.
>> https://www.mazzarosmarket.com/
>>
>> Now you could go crazy in there and easily spend $120. That would be
>> foolish and frivolous. I only spent $119.
>>
> I'm proud of you for holding yourself back and not blowing a wad of cash.
>

Oh, it was not easy showing restraint.

Tonight I had the chicken parm. I probably should not buy it again. It
is big enough for two, but I ended up eating the whole damned thing.
Damn, it was good! The chicken was tender, tasty and had a nice breding
on it.

I had a piece of rum cake too. Made the mistake of sharing it with may
daughter when she topped by today. Should have been greedy and ate all
of that too!

On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 6:29:18 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> I had a piece of rum cake too. Made the mistake of sharing it with may
> daughter when she topped by today. Should have been greedy and ate all
> of that too!
>
I used to make rum cakes around Christmas all the time. Don't know why, but I
got out of the habit of making them and they're easy to make.

On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>
>I used to make rum cakes around Christmas all the time. Don't know why, but I
>got out of the habit of making them and they're easy to make.

Likely you prefered to drink all the rum and then was too sloshed to
bake a cake. LOL

On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 6:53:46 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
> On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 itsjoannotjoann wrote:
> >
> >I used to make rum cakes around Christmas all the time. Don't know why, but I
> >got out of the habit of making them and they're easy to make.
>
> Likely you prefered to drink all the rum and then was too sloshed to
> bake a cake. LOL
>
I like rum cakes but don't really care to drink it as an idiot 20 something I
got sick as dog drinking it. I've got a couple of bottles sitting on a shelf
that haven't been touched for umpteen years. BUT, when I decide to make a
rum cake again I'm all set!

In article >,
"> wrote:

> I used to make rum cakes around Christmas all the time. Don't know why, but I
> got out of the habit of making them and they're easy to make.

About twenty years ago, I made my mom's Christmas cheese, and feeling
especially generous that year, I took a container to my next-door
neighbor lady. I caught her completely by surprise. I gave here a half
pint of cheese and a box of wheat thins, and she immediately gave me a
rum soaked pineapple upside down cake right out of the oven. I didn't
mean to, but I won!
That was a fabulous cake. I'd never eaten one before nor since. Why try
to duplicate the memory of that delight and time? I can't.

leo

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 8/26/2019 11:34 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 9:58:51 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> I've heard about this place and finally go there today.
>> https://www.mazzarosmarket.com/
>>
>> Now you could go crazy in there and easily spend $120. That would be
>> foolish and frivolous. I only spent $119.
>>
> I'm proud of you for holding yourself back and not blowing a wad of cash.
>

Oh, it was not easy showing restraint.

Tonight I had the chicken parm. I probably should not buy it again. It
is big enough for two, but I ended up eating the whole damned thing.
Damn, it was good! The chicken was tender, tasty and had a nice breding
on it.

I had a piece of rum cake too. Made the mistake of sharing it with may
daughter when she topped by today. Should have been greedy and ate all
of that too!

===

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Pamela wrote:
> I would skip the wine and stick to the foods.

I've always claimed here that having wine with dinner is TIAD to
the max. I still mean it too. I like wine but not with food.
Separate nice events, imo. Same with food only, surf and turf
dinners. Two good foods but best to enjoy separately, not
combined.

When eating a good meal, I have no desire to interrupt that taste
with a sip of beer or wine. yuk. Cleansing your pallette? Yeah,
right. IMO, if you want a cleansing thing, eat your dinner all
at once and not served in separate courses. IOW, eat one thing
then something else and alternate. Also (for me), some cold
gramma's applesauce gives a good cleansing and a nice break
without deadening your taste buds and your brain with an
alcoholic beverage.

I've gone to annoying restaurants where they will serve you a
salad, then watch and wait until you are done before bringing the
entree. Nonsense. I prefer to eat them both together so I can
alternate tastes.

On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 8:18:57 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Pamela wrote:
> > I would skip the wine and stick to the foods.
>
> I've always claimed here that having wine with dinner is TIAD to
> the max.

You don't get to decide what tastes good to other people. "TIAD" is
judgmental to the max. "Taste in ass disease" implies that you know
better than anyone else.

Mayonnaise mixed with ketchup is TIAD.

See how nice a thing that is to say?

> I still mean it too. I like wine but not with food.
> Separate nice events, imo. Same with food only, surf and turf
> dinners. Two good foods but best to enjoy separately, not
> combined.

Then don't combine them, for ****'s sake, but shut up about what
and how other people eat.

> When eating a good meal, I have no desire to interrupt that taste
> with a sip of beer or wine. yuk. Cleansing your pallette? Yeah,
> right. IMO, if you want a cleansing thing, eat your dinner all
> at once and not served in separate courses. IOW, eat one thing
> then something else and alternate. Also (for me), some cold
> gramma's applesauce gives a good cleansing and a nice break
> without deadening your taste buds and your brain with an
> alcoholic beverage.
>
> I've gone to annoying restaurants where they will serve you a
> salad, then watch and wait until you are done before bringing the
> entree. Nonsense. I prefer to eat them both together so I can
> alternate tastes.

Everybody's different. I always eat my salad first at home.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> You don't get to decide what tastes good to other people. "TIAD" is
> judgmental to the max. "Taste in ass disease" implies that you know
> better than anyone else.

No - TIAD implies to me what I don't like. That's all.
I'm expressing my personal opinion, not dictating.
I only speak for myself, Cindy.

> Mayonnaise mixed with ketchup is TIAD.

Now you are doing the same.
You only speak for yourself, Cindy

> Then don't combine them, for ****'s sake, but shut up about what
> and how other people eat.

It's usenet. I speak my opinion. Not meant to be any other's.

> Everybody's different.

So don't bitch about my choices either. My stated comments are
about what I like and not what others should like. I happen to
like friendy possums but you don't. Each to their own.

> I always eat my salad first at home.

I'm so happy for you.

On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 9:19:23 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > You don't get to decide what tastes good to other people. "TIAD" is
> > judgmental to the max. "Taste in ass disease" implies that you know
> > better than anyone else.
>
> No - TIAD implies to me what I don't like. That's all.
> I'm expressing my personal opinion, not dictating.
> I only speak for myself, Cindy.

Then make that clear. Saying TIAD tells other people that you think
"Anybody who likes this has their taste in their ass."

> > Mayonnaise mixed with ketchup is TIAD.
>
> Now you are doing the same.
> You only speak for yourself, Cindy
>

It was an example to show you how it comes across.

Apparently you got the message but didn't get the real message.

I respectfully request that you consider eliminating TIAD from your
vocabulary and switch to "I don't think that would work out for me"
or "My experience suggests that I wouldn't like it".

TIAD makes you sound like Bruce.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 02:47:53 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 9:19:23 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > You don't get to decide what tastes good to other people. "TIAD" is
>> > judgmental to the max. "Taste in ass disease" implies that you know
>> > better than anyone else.
>>
>> No - TIAD implies to me what I don't like. That's all.
>> I'm expressing my personal opinion, not dictating.
>> I only speak for myself, Cindy.
>
>Then make that clear. Saying TIAD tells other people that you think
>"Anybody who likes this has their taste in their ass."
>
>> > Mayonnaise mixed with ketchup is TIAD.
>>
>> Now you are doing the same.
>> You only speak for yourself, Cindy
>>
>
>It was an example to show you how it comes across.
>
>Apparently you got the message but didn't get the real message.
>
>I respectfully request that you consider eliminating TIAD from your
>vocabulary and switch to "I don't think that would work out for me"
>or "My experience suggests that I wouldn't like it".
>
>TIAD makes you sound like Bruce.

I only inform people about science projects that aren't fit for
consumption.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 9:19:23 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> You don't get to decide what tastes good to other people. "TIAD" is
>>> judgmental to the max. "Taste in ass disease" implies that you know
>>> better than anyone else.
>>
>> No - TIAD implies to me what I don't like. That's all.
>> I'm expressing my personal opinion, not dictating.
>> I only speak for myself, Cindy.
>
> Then make that clear. Saying TIAD tells other people that you think
> "Anybody who likes this has their taste in their ass."
>
>>> Mayonnaise mixed with ketchup is TIAD.
>>
>> Now you are doing the same.
>> You only speak for yourself, Cindy
>>
>
> It was an example to show you how it comes across.
>
> Apparently you got the message but didn't get the real message.
>
> I respectfully request that you consider eliminating TIAD from your
> vocabulary and switch to "I don't think that would work out for me"
> or "My experience suggests that I wouldn't like it".
>
> TIAD makes you sound like Bruce.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Popeye uses tiad more than everyone else put together.

On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 06:02:24 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 8:18:57 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> Pamela wrote:
>> > I would skip the wine and stick to the foods.
>>
>> I've always claimed here that having wine with dinner is TIAD to
>> the max.
>
>You don't get to decide what tastes good to other people. "TIAD" is
>judgmental to the max. "Taste in ass disease" implies that you know
>better than anyone else.
>
>Mayonnaise mixed with ketchup is TIAD.
>
>See how nice a thing that is to say?
>
>> I still mean it too. I like wine but not with food.
>> Separate nice events, imo. Same with food only, surf and turf
>> dinners. Two good foods but best to enjoy separately, not
>> combined.
>
>Then don't combine them, for ****'s sake, but shut up about what
>and how other people eat.
>
>> When eating a good meal, I have no desire to interrupt that taste
>> with a sip of beer or wine. yuk. Cleansing your pallette? Yeah,
>> right. IMO, if you want a cleansing thing, eat your dinner all
>> at once and not served in separate courses. IOW, eat one thing
>> then something else and alternate. Also (for me), some cold
>> gramma's applesauce gives a good cleansing and a nice break
>> without deadening your taste buds and your brain with an
>> alcoholic beverage.
>>
>> I've gone to annoying restaurants where they will serve you a
>> salad, then watch and wait until you are done before bringing the
>> entree. Nonsense. I prefer to eat them both together so I can
>> alternate tastes.
>
>Everybody's different. I always eat my salad first at home.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

At home salad is our entire meal; veggies, meat, and carbos.... a big
bowlful of all kinds of veggies, sliced meat, cheese, and pasta/beans.
Btw. I never eat restaurant salads anymore, they don't properly wash
the veggies nor are they fresh, nowadays most eateries serve those
plastic bagged greens shipped up from those chicano factories, no
thank you... they're the greens that are the salvage that the tractor
ran over, rinsed in murky pond water.

On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 10:57:48 AM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 06:02:24 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 8:18:57 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >> Pamela wrote:
> >> > I would skip the wine and stick to the foods.
> >>
> >> I've always claimed here that having wine with dinner is TIAD to
> >> the max.
> >
> >You don't get to decide what tastes good to other people. "TIAD" is
> >judgmental to the max. "Taste in ass disease" implies that you know
> >better than anyone else.
> >
> >Mayonnaise mixed with ketchup is TIAD.
> >
> >See how nice a thing that is to say?
> >
> >> I still mean it too. I like wine but not with food.
> >> Separate nice events, imo. Same with food only, surf and turf
> >> dinners. Two good foods but best to enjoy separately, not
> >> combined.
> >
> >Then don't combine them, for ****'s sake, but shut up about what
> >and how other people eat.
> >
> >> When eating a good meal, I have no desire to interrupt that taste
> >> with a sip of beer or wine. yuk. Cleansing your pallette? Yeah,
> >> right. IMO, if you want a cleansing thing, eat your dinner all
> >> at once and not served in separate courses. IOW, eat one thing
> >> then something else and alternate. Also (for me), some cold
> >> gramma's applesauce gives a good cleansing and a nice break
> >> without deadening your taste buds and your brain with an
> >> alcoholic beverage.
> >>
> >> I've gone to annoying restaurants where they will serve you a
> >> salad, then watch and wait until you are done before bringing the
> >> entree. Nonsense. I prefer to eat them both together so I can
> >> alternate tastes.
> >
> >Everybody's different. I always eat my salad first at home.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> At home salad is our entire meal; veggies, meat, and carbos.... a big
> bowlful of all kinds of veggies, sliced meat, cheese, and pasta/beans.
> Btw. I never eat restaurant salads anymore, they don't properly wash
> the veggies nor are they fresh, nowadays most eateries serve those
> plastic bagged greens shipped up from those chicano factories, no
> thank you... they're the greens that are the salvage that the tractor
> ran over, rinsed in murky pond water.

Salad frequently is an entire meal for us. When it isn't, a smaller
salad precedes the main meal.

It's obvious that the restaurant in which I eat the most salads (every
Thursday for lunch) cuts their own romaine.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 08:04:09 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 10:57:48 AM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 06:02:24 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 8:18:57 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> >> Pamela wrote:
>> >> > I would skip the wine and stick to the foods.
>> >>
>> >> I've always claimed here that having wine with dinner is TIAD to
>> >> the max.
>> >
>> >You don't get to decide what tastes good to other people. "TIAD" is
>> >judgmental to the max. "Taste in ass disease" implies that you know
>> >better than anyone else.
>> >
>> >Mayonnaise mixed with ketchup is TIAD.
>> >
>> >See how nice a thing that is to say?
>> >
>> >> I still mean it too. I like wine but not with food.
>> >> Separate nice events, imo. Same with food only, surf and turf
>> >> dinners. Two good foods but best to enjoy separately, not
>> >> combined.
>> >
>> >Then don't combine them, for ****'s sake, but shut up about what
>> >and how other people eat.
>> >
>> >> When eating a good meal, I have no desire to interrupt that taste
>> >> with a sip of beer or wine. yuk. Cleansing your pallette? Yeah,
>> >> right. IMO, if you want a cleansing thing, eat your dinner all
>> >> at once and not served in separate courses. IOW, eat one thing
>> >> then something else and alternate. Also (for me), some cold
>> >> gramma's applesauce gives a good cleansing and a nice break
>> >> without deadening your taste buds and your brain with an
>> >> alcoholic beverage.
>> >>
>> >> I've gone to annoying restaurants where they will serve you a
>> >> salad, then watch and wait until you are done before bringing the
>> >> entree. Nonsense. I prefer to eat them both together so I can
>> >> alternate tastes.
>> >
>> >Everybody's different. I always eat my salad first at home.
>> >
>> >Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> At home salad is our entire meal; veggies, meat, and carbos.... a big
>> bowlful of all kinds of veggies, sliced meat, cheese, and pasta/beans.
>> Btw. I never eat restaurant salads anymore, they don't properly wash
>> the veggies nor are they fresh, nowadays most eateries serve those
>> plastic bagged greens shipped up from those chicano factories, no
>> thank you... they're the greens that are the salvage that the tractor
>> ran over, rinsed in murky pond water.
>
>Salad frequently is an entire meal for us. When it isn't, a smaller
>salad precedes the main meal.
>
>It's obvious that the restaurant in which I eat the most salads (every
>Thursday for lunch) cuts their own romaine.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I don't eat in restaurants anymore, not for several years now... ALL
restaurant food is filthy crap, especially fast food with all their
mystery meat. Actually the higher rated the restaurant the worse the
food and the dirtier... any knowlegable cook can make garbage taste
great, it's mostly in the presentation. People eat with their eyes,
and by cost, the higher the price the better they believe it is. I
think people who boast about how they paid $100+ for a steak dinner
are more dollars than brains Shmucks. I've never eaten a steak out
that was better than what I chose from a local market and cooked
myself.

We have salads made with produce from our garden or out of season from
whole heads of greens, never that pre-chopped plastic bagged dreck.
Most salad produce sold at market here is marked "Locally Grown"... no
way to prove it but still I buy entire heads and do my own prep. Right
now our garden is producing a glut of gorgeous Big Girl tomatoes, very
soon the Romas will be coming in. Yesterday I picked a small
cantaloupe, ate half for lunch, pure sweetness. Soon the end of the
garden season but still there are a ton of green beans and lots of
greens and winter squash.

On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 16:15:14 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 16:04 28 Aug 2019, Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 10:57:48 AM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 06:02:24 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 8:18:57 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>> >> Pamela wrote:
>>> >> > I would skip the wine and stick to the foods.
>>> >>
>>> >> I've always claimed here that having wine with dinner is TIAD to
>>> >> the max.
>>> >
>>> >You don't get to decide what tastes good to other people. "TIAD" is
>>> >judgmental to the max. "Taste in ass disease" implies that you know
>>> >better than anyone else.
>>> >
>>> >Mayonnaise mixed with ketchup is TIAD.
>>> >
>>> >See how nice a thing that is to say?
>>> >
>>> >> I still mean it too. I like wine but not with food.
>>> >> Separate nice events, imo. Same with food only, surf and turf
>>> >> dinners. Two good foods but best to enjoy separately, not
>>> >> combined.
>>> >
>>> >Then don't combine them, for ****'s sake, but shut up about what
>>> >and how other people eat.
>>> >
>>> >> When eating a good meal, I have no desire to interrupt that taste
>>> >> with a sip of beer or wine. yuk. Cleansing your pallette? Yeah,
>>> >> right. IMO, if you want a cleansing thing, eat your dinner all
>>> >> at once and not served in separate courses. IOW, eat one thing
>>> >> then something else and alternate. Also (for me), some cold
>>> >> gramma's applesauce gives a good cleansing and a nice break
>>> >> without deadening your taste buds and your brain with an
>>> >> alcoholic beverage.
>>> >>
>>> >> I've gone to annoying restaurants where they will serve you a
>>> >> salad, then watch and wait until you are done before bringing the
>>> >> entree. Nonsense. I prefer to eat them both together so I can
>>> >> alternate tastes.
>>> >
>>> >Everybody's different. I always eat my salad first at home.
>>> >
>>> >Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> At home salad is our entire meal; veggies, meat, and carbos.... a big
>>> bowlful of all kinds of veggies, sliced meat, cheese, and pasta/beans.
>>> Btw. I never eat restaurant salads anymore, they don't properly wash
>>> the veggies nor are they fresh, nowadays most eateries serve those
>>> plastic bagged greens shipped up from those chicano factories, no
>>> thank you... they're the greens that are the salvage that the tractor
>>> ran over, rinsed in murky pond water.
>>
>> Salad frequently is an entire meal for us. When it isn't, a smaller
>> salad precedes the main meal.
>>
>> It's obvious that the restaurant in which I eat the most salads (every
>> Thursday for lunch) cuts their own romaine.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>I was taught ripping lettuce is better than cutting to hold the dressing.
>Now I always rip it.

With torn greens there's far less bruising. But sometimes I prefer a
chiffonade, which is fine when eaten immediately, before the ruptured
cells oxidize;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiffonade

wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 06:02:24 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 8:18:57 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>> Pamela wrote:
>>>> I would skip the wine and stick to the foods.
>>>
>>> I've always claimed here that having wine with dinner is TIAD to
>>> the max.
>>
>> You don't get to decide what tastes good to other people. "TIAD" is
>> judgmental to the max. "Taste in ass disease" implies that you know
>> better than anyone else.
>>
>> Mayonnaise mixed with ketchup is TIAD.
>>
>> See how nice a thing that is to say?
>>
>>> I still mean it too. I like wine but not with food.
>>> Separate nice events, imo. Same with food only, surf and turf
>>> dinners. Two good foods but best to enjoy separately, not
>>> combined.
>>
>> Then don't combine them, for ****'s sake, but shut up about what
>> and how other people eat.
>>
>>> When eating a good meal, I have no desire to interrupt that taste
>>> with a sip of beer or wine. yuk. Cleansing your pallette? Yeah,
>>> right. IMO, if you want a cleansing thing, eat your dinner all
>>> at once and not served in separate courses. IOW, eat one thing
>>> then something else and alternate. Also (for me), some cold
>>> gramma's applesauce gives a good cleansing and a nice break
>>> without deadening your taste buds and your brain with an
>>> alcoholic beverage.
>>>
>>> I've gone to annoying restaurants where they will serve you a
>>> salad, then watch and wait until you are done before bringing the
>>> entree. Nonsense. I prefer to eat them both together so I can
>>> alternate tastes.
>>
>> Everybody's different. I always eat my salad first at home.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> At home salad is our entire meal; veggies, meat, and carbos.... a big
> bowlful of all kinds of veggies, sliced meat, cheese, and pasta/beans.
> Btw. I never eat restaurant salads anymore, they don't properly wash
> the veggies nor are they fresh, nowadays most eateries serve those
> plastic bagged greens shipped up from those chicano factories, no
> thank you... they're the greens that are the salvage that the tractor
> ran over, rinsed in murky pond water.
>

Right on Popeye, plus, when they see yoose coming, they always ****
in yoose salad dressing.

On 8/28/2019 8:17 AM, Gary wrote:

> I've gone to annoying restaurants where they will serve you a
> salad, then watch and wait until you are done before bringing the
> entree. Nonsense. I prefer to eat them both together so I can
> alternate tastes.
>

The purpose of the salad is to shut you up and give you something to do
while your dinner is being cooked. Even at home, I sometimes eat part
of the salad while finishing up the rest of the meal.

On 8/28/2019 9:29 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/28/2019 8:17 AM, Gary wrote:
>
>> I've gone to annoying restaurants where they will serve you a
>> salad, then watch and wait until you are done before bringing the
>> entree.Â* Nonsense. I prefer to eat them both together so I can
>> alternate tastes.
>>
>
> The purpose of the salad is to shut you up and give you something to do
> while your dinner is being cooked.Â* Even at home, I sometimes eat part
> of the salad while finishing up the rest of the meal.

Shut up and eat your salad! Thanks, Ed. In a restaurant setting
there is also usually a soup option or two. One will be 'soup of the
day' and the other will be a staple soup, always on the menu. It's up
to you and your party to choose. Or simply pass on both.

Jill

On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 08:17:51 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Pamela wrote:
>> I would skip the wine and stick to the foods.
>
>I've always claimed here that having wine with dinner is TIAD to
>the max. I still mean it too. I like wine but not with food.
>Separate nice events, imo. Same with food only, surf and turf
>dinners. Two good foods but best to enjoy separately, not
>combined.
>
>When eating a good meal, I have no desire to interrupt that taste
>with a sip of beer or wine. yuk.

Gary, we get it.

>I've gone to annoying restaurants where they will serve you a
>salad, then watch and wait until you are done before bringing the
>entree. Nonsense. I prefer to eat them both together so I can
>alternate tastes.

You're starting to sound like Dave Smith. This is a SERIOUS warning.

On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 16:13:38 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 13:17 28 Aug 2019, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Pamela wrote:
>>> I would skip the wine and stick to the foods.
>>
>> I've always claimed here that having wine with dinner is TIAD to the
>> max. I still mean it too. I like wine but not with food. Separate nice
>> events, imo. Same with food only, surf and turf dinners. Two good foods
>> but best to enjoy separately, not combined.
>>
>> When eating a good meal, I have no desire to interrupt that taste with a
>> sip of beer or wine. yuk. Cleansing your pallette? Yeah, right. IMO,
>> if you want a cleansing thing, eat your dinner all at once and not
>> served in separate courses. IOW, eat one thing then something else and
>> alternate. Also (for me), some cold gramma's applesauce gives a good
>> cleansing and a nice break without deadening your taste buds and your
>> brain with an alcoholic beverage.
>>
>> I've gone to annoying restaurants where they will serve you a salad,
>> then watch and wait until you are done before bringing the entree.
>> Nonsense. I prefer to eat them both together so I can alternate tastes.
>
>I have drunk my fair share of alcohol and used to enjoy getting merry on a
>regular basis. In time I grew up. Luckily I don't have any dependency on
>alcohol and will regularly go without a drop for 6 months without noticing
>it. I drink when it suits me.
>
>I've come to see that wine enthusiasts kid themselves that wine enhances
>the flavour of food. They are essentially dipsomaniacs who want an excuse
>to indulge their habit under the cloak of fine wines, chateaux, vintage
>years, clarity, rarity and all that guff. I have a friend who is very
>wealthy and forever ordering expensive wines at restaurants -- not to show
>off but as an excuse for drinking yet another bottle of some "connoisseur"
>wine. There's always some fantastic wine which goes fantastically with
>the food he's ordered. We consider him a alcoholic, he says he's not.
>
>If you took the alcohol content out of wine, it would lose it's appeal to
>self-appointed oenophiles who drink and eat together.
>
>I remember having a pizza with an Italian friend who had come over to the
>UK for a few weeks. The waiter offered us wine and was told "Where I am
>in Italy we have pizza with Coca Cola not wine".
>
>Of course people can drink what they like with their food -- but they kid
>themselves if they think a meal is incomplete or substandard without wine.
>
>If I went to an Italian food store, I would buy the gorgeous foods and
>ingredients I couldn't find elsewhere -- not more damn vino.

I'm not a wine person. I mostly gave up on wines since I left
Brooklyn. There the old Italian bocci players made their own Dago Red
in huge wooden barrels, the heavenly aroma permeated the neighborhood
as it wafted up from nearly every basement. To me that was the best
wine, had to be from the Guinea Stinkers they constantly puffed. Now
if a pot roast calls for wine I instead use beer, I think beer goes
much better with stewed beef than any wine. At home we don't drink
much, my wife occasionally enjoys a rum and Coke and I'll join her
with a vodka-Sprite. With any mixed drink I find no difference
whether top or bottom shelf. If I had to choose my favorite wine it
would be cashew fruit wine:
https://ambergriscaye.com/BzLibrary/trust152.html

On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 14:06:19 -0400, wrote:

>On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 16:13:38 +0100, Pamela >
>wrote:
>
>>If I went to an Italian food store, I would buy the gorgeous foods and
>>ingredients I couldn't find elsewhere -- not more damn vino.
>
>I'm not a wine person.

Your palate isn't sophisticated enough. You have the taste buds of a
child.

On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 16:13:38 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>I have drunk my fair share of alcohol and used to enjoy getting merry on a
>regular basis. In time I grew up. Luckily I don't have any dependency on
>alcohol and will regularly go without a drop for 6 months without noticing
>it. I drink when it suits me.
>
>I've come to see that wine enthusiasts kid themselves that wine enhances
>the flavour of food. They are essentially dipsomaniacs who want an excuse
>to indulge their habit under the cloak of fine wines, chateaux, vintage
>years, clarity, rarity and all that guff. I have a friend who is very
>wealthy and forever ordering expensive wines at restaurants -- not to show
>off but as an excuse for drinking yet another bottle of some "connoisseur"
>wine. There's always some fantastic wine which goes fantastically with
>the food he's ordered. We consider him a alcoholic, he says he's not.
>
>If you took the alcohol content out of wine, it would lose it's appeal to
>self-appointed oenophiles who drink and eat together.
>
>I remember having a pizza with an Italian friend who had come over to the
>UK for a few weeks. The waiter offered us wine and was told "Where I am
>in Italy we have pizza with Coca Cola not wine".
>
>Of course people can drink what they like with their food -- but they kid
>themselves if they think a meal is incomplete or substandard without wine.
>
>If I went to an Italian food store, I would buy the gorgeous foods and
>ingredients I couldn't find elsewhere -- not more damn vino.

This message was brought to you by Reverend Pamela.

> On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 16:13:38 +0100, Pamela >
> wrote:
>
>> I have drunk my fair share of alcohol and used to enjoy getting merry on a
>> regular basis. In time I grew up. Luckily I don't have any dependency on
>> alcohol and will regularly go without a drop for 6 months without noticing
>> it. I drink when it suits me.

Well, we differ a bit. Many years ago I did drink and got merry and
never did that again. It was a learning experience and unintentional.

>>
>> I've come to see that wine enthusiasts kid themselves that wine enhances
>> the flavour of food. They are essentially dipsomaniacs who want an excuse
>> to indulge their habit under the cloak of fine wines, chateaux, vintage
>> years, clarity, rarity and all that guff. I have a friend who is very
>> wealthy and forever ordering expensive wines at restaurants -- not to show
>> off but as an excuse for drinking yet another bottle of some "connoisseur"
>> wine. There's always some fantastic wine which goes fantastically with
>> the food he's ordered. We consider him a alcoholic, he says he's not.

I would have no idea if he is an alcoholic but that aside, you just
don't appreciate wine and food pairings. Yes, some tend to show off
with the way they choose a wine. I have a simple system. Anything is
the $10 to $15 range is good. I've had some more costly but the value
does not go up linear with price.


>>
>> If you took the alcohol content out of wine, it would lose it's appeal to
>> self-appointed oenophiles who drink and eat together.
>>
>> I remember having a pizza with an Italian friend who had come over to the
>> UK for a few weeks. The waiter offered us wine and was told "Where I am
>> in Italy we have pizza with Coca Cola not wine".

I'd consider a beer. I have about one beer a month and it goes well
with pizza. I never buy soda so it is either beer or just water for me. \\
>>
>> Of course people can drink what they like with their food -- but they kid
>> themselves if they think a meal is incomplete or substandard without wine.
>>
>> If I went to an Italian food store, I would buy the gorgeous foods and
>> ingredients I couldn't find elsewhere -- not more damn vino.

I prefer plain vanilla ice cream over a sundae with lots of syrups and
fruit gook on it. So what? Water is my choice at most meals but
certain ones are enhanced with a good wine, IMO. The fact that you
don't enjoy it does not make the people that do kidding themselves.

A nice aged cheese, a good steak, an Italian meal with red sauce and all
enhanced with wine. My wine cooler holds 30+ bottles so I have a
variety to choose from, most all bought when on sale.

Lunch today was a Beemster cheese that I never had before. Had
breadsticks with it and yes, a glass of wine. Great combo, really
enjoyed it.

Some day I' have you and Gary for dinner. It will be cheap as I'd be
the only one e joying a bottle of wine.

On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 21:37:05 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 16:13:38 +0100, Pamela >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If I went to an Italian food store, I would buy the gorgeous foods and
>>> ingredients I couldn't find elsewhere -- not more damn vino.
>
>I prefer plain vanilla ice cream over a sundae with lots of syrups and
>fruit gook on it. So what? Water is my choice at most meals but
>certain ones are enhanced with a good wine, IMO. The fact that you
>don't enjoy it does not make the people that do kidding themselves.

Strange how people sometimes turn what happens to be their personal
preference into a moral rule.

>A nice aged cheese, a good steak, an Italian meal with red sauce and all
>enhanced with wine. My wine cooler holds 30+ bottles so I have a
>variety to choose from, most all bought when on sale.
>
>Lunch today was a Beemster cheese that I never had before.

How Dutch of you.

>Had breadsticks with it and yes, a glass of wine. Great combo, really
>enjoyed it.
>
>Some day I' have you and Gary for dinner. It will be cheap as I'd be
>the only one e joying a bottle of wine.

Reverend Pamela will judge you for being an alcoholic and Cheeseburger
Gary will judge your for having TIAD.

On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 11:53:12 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 02:49 29 Aug 2019, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>> Reverend Pamela will judge you for being an alcoholic and Cheeseburger
>> Gary will judge your for having TIAD.
>>
>
>I don't judge alcoholics but I feel sad for their plight.

There's a difference between people who drink and alcoholics.

>I lost my best friend from childhood to alcohol and know what a struggle it can be for
>them.

I'm losing a good friend to the same thing. It's terrible, but it
doesn't stop me from enjoying wine, whiskey etc.

>Out of interest Bruce, do you think I would have had a better life if I had
>tried cocaine and heroin?

I don't think so. I never did.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Some day I' have you and Gary for dinner. It will be cheap as I'd be
> the only one enjoying a bottle of wine.

heh heh Yeah, water for me - right from the tap too, none of
this bottled water nonsense.

Looks you're in for a bit of weather soon, Ed.

On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 04:53:25 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> Some day I' have you and Gary for dinner. It will be cheap as I'd be
>> the only one enjoying a bottle of wine.
>
>heh heh Yeah, water for me - right from the tap too, none of
>this bottled water nonsense.

Whether that's nonsense very much depends on what's coming out of your
taps.

But I see your point: bottled water isn't free.

On 8/29/2019 4:53 AM, Gary wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> Some day I' have you and Gary for dinner. It will be cheap as I'd be
>> the only one enjoying a bottle of wine.
>
> heh heh Yeah, water for me - right from the tap too, none of
> this bottled water nonsense.
>
> Looks you're in for a bit of weather soon, Ed.
>

Looks like Monday. East coast should get the brunt of it looking at
present forecasts but we certainly will get something.

Got gas in the car, also for the generator, cash in my pocket. The
house. being new, was built to the latest codes.