On Sat, 06 Jul 2019 00:45:30 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> wrote:

>In article >, Bruce
> wrote:
>
>> The whole western world has that problem. They all want to come to
>> Europe and Australia too. If I was a poor sod in a 3rd world hellhole
>> country, I'd also want to move to EU, US or AU.
>
>If we can just crush capitalism completely, emigration will cease to
>exist, and we can all join the poor sods in their misery without anyone
>having to move around. Helluva deal!
>We all know that capitalism is evil. We're told it everyday by a
>socialist media. More envy! Less greed! The hell with work! That's what
>I say!

You probably call everything you disagree with "socialism". For
instance, there's no socialist country in Europe. Fortunately.

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On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 22:00:11 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>
>
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>"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 09:54:18 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 20:46:16 +1000, Bruce >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 11:00:35 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I don't know anyone who sees USA and Trump as a laughing stock. I
>>>>certainly don't!
>>>
>>>Not the USA as a whole, but I don't know anyone, European or
>>>Australian, left wing or right wing, who takes Trump seriously.
>>>Everybody thinks he's a lying buffoon who finds his own ego more
>>>important than his country.
>>>
>>>Of course this could be different in the UK or in your part thereof
>>
>>You're overlooking the fact she was/is a UKipper and Farage follower!
>
>What's wrong with that? To each their own.
>
>===
>
>LOL I suspect Madam know it all, has never heard of the Brexit Party???
>
>I know I have said this before, but I warn anyone who ever thinks of
>chatting to her €¦ Never trust her. Nothing will remain confidential or
>private. At the first chance she will get, she will use anything at all,
>you have ever mentioned, to put you down ?
>
>In case she is too thick to know it, even though she is (apparently) hot on
>their tail, The Brexit Party won the most MEPs in the Euro elections in UK
>?
>
>They are doing pretty well, after only 6 weeks, and they getting a whole
>party together to stand in elections. So she can stick that in her pipe €¦
>LOL

Well, I hope the whole Brexit drama will be over soon. In or out, just
get it over with. Then the euro can settle. Because I get paid in
euros

====

Fingers crossed then! I am heartily sick of it all!

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On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 21:46:35 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
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>
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>"Bruce" wrote in message
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>
>On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 16:50:41 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>
>>http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>"S Viemeister" wrote in message ...
>>
>>On 7/5/2019 1:11 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> Of course, but *I* haven't heard anyone saying anything like that
>>> about him.
>>>
>>> The only place I have seen anything like that is here! All I hear
>>> about him is how he is helping 'the people'!
>>>
>>Most of the people I know in the US, find Trump embarrassing - and
>>terrifying.
>>
>>====
>>
>> Oh dear((( As bad as that! Well, I can only speak as I find and I
>>repeat, I haven't heard anyone here bad mouthing him!
>
>Not even on the BBC, for instance? Or in decent newspapers?
>
>===
>
> I always listen to the news and no I haven't!
>
> Maybe in comment progs but I don't often listen/watch.

I guess when you're reporting, you keep your opinion out of it. You
just try to report unbiased facts. But they should also not be
praising Trump then.

====

I guess so. So perhaps they do and just don't see it. But I never
hear anything.

In article >, Bruce
> wrote:

> You probably call everything you disagree with "socialism". For
> instance, there's no socialist country in Europe. Fortunately.

Of course I do. I disagree with the neighbor's dog. He looks like a
Commie to me. I blame Otto von Bismarck for starting all this gimme,
gimme, gimme crap. He was European, I've been told.
The Great God, JFK, of the U.S. Democrats once stated the opposite of
todays mantra which is now:
"Ask not what you can do for your country. Ask what your country can do
for you."

leo

On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 09:56:27 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>
>
>--
>http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>"Bruce" wrote in message ...
>
>On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 22:00:11 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>
>>In case she is too thick to know it, even though she is (apparently) hot on
>>their tail, The Brexit Party won the most MEPs in the Euro elections in UK
>>?
>>
>>They are doing pretty well, after only 6 weeks, and they getting a whole
>>party together to stand in elections. So she can stick that in her pipe €¦
>>LOL
>
>Well, I hope the whole Brexit drama will be over soon. In or out, just
>get it over with. Then the euro can settle. Because I get paid in
>euros
>
>====
>
> Fingers crossed then! I am heartily sick of it all!

I can imagine.

> "Bruce" wrote:
> Well, I hope the whole Brexit drama will be over soon. In or out, just
> get it over with. Then the euro can settle. Because I get paid in
> euros

Come live in the USA. Legal citizenship comes with a free handgun
and 24 rounds of ammo and you can get paid in Confederate
dollars. Compliments of the deep south.

Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

> The Great God, JFK, of the U.S. Democrats once stated the opposite of
> todays mantra which is now:
> "Ask not what you can do for your country. Ask what your country can do
> for you."

Good for you, Leo. I've been planning to mention exactly that for
a long time.

JFK would be a republican these days.

Bruce wrote:
>
> Yes, deplorables tend to think that the more unpopular Trump is
> abroad, the better he must be defending America's interests.

You sure do cry often. You must buy tissues by the carton.

Bruce wrote:
>
> Hahaha. You could never handle a female president. Hahaha. Even this
> post shows that. Hahaha. It wouldn't fit into your Beavis and Butthead
> world. Huh huh.

You are speculating/gossiping again and that's always 99% wrong.
I vote for the best candidate. Don't care about party or race or
gender.

I *always* vote for the best person running. Sadly, it often ends
up just voting for the lesser of 2 evils.

On 2019-07-06 6:21 a.m., Gary wrote:
> Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>
>> The Great God, JFK, of the U.S. Democrats once stated the opposite of
>> todays mantra which is now:
>> "Ask not what you can do for your country. Ask what your country can do
>> for you."
>
> Good for you, Leo. I've been planning to mention exactly that for
> a long time.
>
> JFK would be a republican these days.
>

And Barry Goldwater would now be a Democrat judging by these quotes of his:

"Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the
[Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a
terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and
governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are
acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know,
I've tried to deal with them."

"I am a conservative Republican, but I believe in democracy and the
separation of church and state. The conservative movement is founded on
the simple tenet that people have the right to live life as they please
as long as they don't hurt anyone else in the process."

"When you say 'radical right' today, I think of these moneymaking
ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take
the Republican Party away from the Republican Party, and make a
religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics
goodbye."

"A woman has a right to an abortion. That's a decision that's up to the
pregnant woman, not up to the pope or some do-gooders or the Religious
Right."

On Saturday, July 6, 2019 at 1:54:40 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
> On 2019-07-06 6:21 a.m., Gary wrote:
> > Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> >
> >> The Great God, JFK, of the U.S. Democrats once stated the opposite of
> >> todays mantra which is now:
> >> "Ask not what you can do for your country. Ask what your country can do
> >> for you."
> >
> > Good for you, Leo. I've been planning to mention exactly that for
> > a long time.
> >
> > JFK would be a republican these days.
> >
>
> And Barry Goldwater would now be a Democrat judging by these quotes of his:
>
> "Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the
> [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a
> terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and
> governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are
> acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know,
> I've tried to deal with them."
>
> "I am a conservative Republican, but I believe in democracy and the
> separation of church and state. The conservative movement is founded on
> the simple tenet that people have the right to live life as they please
> as long as they don't hurt anyone else in the process."
>
> "When you say 'radical right' today, I think of these moneymaking
> ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take
> the Republican Party away from the Republican Party, and make a
> religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics
> goodbye."
>
> "A woman has a right to an abortion. That's a decision that's up to the
> pregnant woman, not up to the pope or some do-gooders or the Religious
> Right."

Thanks. I recently saw some far right-winger call Harry Truman a RINO.
I had to laugh, since I couldn't reach through the computer and shake
him until his teeth rattled.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Saturday, July 6, 2019 at 1:54:40 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
> > On 2019-07-06 6:21 a.m., Gary wrote:
> > > Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> > >
> > >> The Great God, JFK, of the U.S. Democrats once stated the opposite of
> > >> todays mantra which is now:
> > >> "Ask not what you can do for your country. Ask what your country can do
> > >> for you."
> > >
> > > Good for you, Leo. I've been planning to mention exactly that for
> > > a long time.
> > >
> > > JFK would be a republican these days.
> > >
> >
> > And Barry Goldwater would now be a Democrat judging by these quotes of his:
> >
> > "Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the
> > [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a
> > terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and
> > governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are
> > acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know,
> > I've tried to deal with them."
> >
> > "I am a conservative Republican, but I believe in democracy and the
> > separation of church and state. The conservative movement is founded on
> > the simple tenet that people have the right to live life as they please
> > as long as they don't hurt anyone else in the process."
> >
> > "When you say 'radical right' today, I think of these moneymaking
> > ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take
> > the Republican Party away from the Republican Party, and make a
> > religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics
> > goodbye."
> >
> > "A woman has a right to an abortion. That's a decision that's up to the
> > pregnant woman, not up to the pope or some do-gooders or the Religious
> > Right."
>
> Thanks. I recently saw some far right-winger call Harry Truman a RINO.
> I had to laugh, since I couldn't reach through the computer and shake
> him until his teeth rattled.


Now *that* is funny, lol, thanx fer the laff...

;-D

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Greg

On Sat, 06 Jul 2019 08:49:46 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Hahaha. You could never handle a female president. Hahaha. Even this
>> post shows that. Hahaha. It wouldn't fit into your Beavis and Butthead
>> world. Huh huh.
>
>You are speculating/gossiping again and that's always 99% wrong.
>I vote for the best candidate. Don't care about party or race or
>gender.
>
>I *always* vote for the best person running.

And miraculously, that is never and never will be a woman. "A
president with tits Huh Huh."

On Sat, 06 Jul 2019 08:21:16 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>
>> "Bruce" wrote:
>> Well, I hope the whole Brexit drama will be over soon. In or out, just
>> get it over with. Then the euro can settle. Because I get paid in
>> euros
>
>Come live in the USA. Legal citizenship comes with a free handgun
>and 24 rounds of ammo and you can get paid in Confederate
>dollars. Compliments of the deep south.

No, I bet the moment I move there, y'all will start the Texit and we
get the whole drama all over again.

On Sat, 06 Jul 2019 08:23:45 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Yes, deplorables tend to think that the more unpopular Trump is
>> abroad, the better he must be defending America's interests.
>
>You sure do cry often. You must buy tissues by the carton.

Not crying, commenting. And he's very entertaining, the way he blows
his own horn during the Independence speech. And the deplorables love
it. They're all laughing and showing their one tooth

On Sat, 06 Jul 2019 08:21:32 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>
>> The Great God, JFK, of the U.S. Democrats once stated the opposite of
>> todays mantra which is now:
>> "Ask not what you can do for your country. Ask what your country can do
>> for you."
>
>Good for you, Leo. I've been planning to mention exactly that for
>a long time.
>
>JFK would be a republican these days.

Would he still be sending his henchmen out to find him a new woman to
bonk every day, in this age of #MeToo?

Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Jul 2019 08:21:16 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>>
>>> "Bruce" wrote:
>>> Well, I hope the whole Brexit drama will be over soon. In or out, just
>>> get it over with. Then the euro can settle. Because I get paid in
>>> euros
>>
>> Come live in the USA. Legal citizenship comes with a free handgun
>> and 24 rounds of ammo and you can get paid in Confederate
>> dollars. Compliments of the deep south.
>
> No, I bet the moment I move there, y'all will start the Texit and we
> get the whole drama all over again.
>

Yoose wouldn't last a week in the deep south or in texas. Yoose
would shoot off yoose big mouth and end up in the hospital. The
south ain't gonna rebel again, and fight a war, but they ain't gonna
put up with assholes like yoose.

Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Jul 2019 08:23:45 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, deplorables tend to think that the more unpopular Trump is
>>> abroad, the better he must be defending America's interests.
>>
>> You sure do cry often. You must buy tissues by the carton.
>
> Not crying

No, It's called whining Druce, and yoose are an expert.

On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 09:57:51 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>"Bruce" wrote in message ...
>
>On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 21:46:35 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>
>>http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>>Oh dear((( As bad as that! Well, I can only speak as I find and I
>>>repeat, I haven't heard anyone here bad mouthing him!
>>
>>Not even on the BBC, for instance? Or in decent newspapers?
>>
>>===
>>
>> I always listen to the news and no I haven't!
>>
>> Maybe in comment progs but I don't often listen/watch.
>
>I guess when you're reporting, you keep your opinion out of it. You
>just try to report unbiased facts. But they should also not be
>praising Trump then.
>
>====
>
> I guess so. So perhaps they do and just don't see it. But I never
>hear anything.

Well, here are some quotes from the British ambassador to the US.
Doesn't he speak on behalf of your queen and you?

-Trump's administration is "inept", "insecure", "incompetent" and
"uniquely disfunctional".

-Trump's presidency could "crash and burn" and "end in disgrace".

-"We don't really believe this administration is going to become
substantially more normal; less dysfunctional; less unpredictable;
less faction riven; less diplomatically clumsy and inept."

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 09:57:51 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 21:46:35 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>
>>http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>>Oh dear((( As bad as that! Well, I can only speak as I find and I
>>>repeat, I haven't heard anyone here bad mouthing him!
>>
>>Not even on the BBC, for instance? Or in decent newspapers?
>>
>>===
>>
>> I always listen to the news and no I haven't!
>>
>> Maybe in comment progs but I don't often listen/watch.
>
>I guess when you're reporting, you keep your opinion out of it. You
>just try to report unbiased facts. But they should also not be
>praising Trump then.
>
>====
>
> I guess so. So perhaps they do and just don't see it. But I never
>hear anything.

Well, here are some quotes from the British ambassador to the US.
Doesn't he speak on behalf of your queen and you?

-Trump's administration is "inept", "insecure", "incompetent" and
"uniquely disfunctional".

-Trump's presidency could "crash and burn" and "end in disgrace".

-"We don't really believe this administration is going to become
substantially more normal; less dysfunctional; less unpredictable;
less faction riven; less diplomatically clumsy and inept."

=======

He doesn't speak for me and I doubt he is speaking for the Queen.
Isn't he a political figure?

Anyway, you know I am not comfortable discussing politics here. I am
here to discuss cooking ... if it were possible.

On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 08:26:11 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>>====
>>
>> I guess so. So perhaps they do and just don't see it. But I never
>>hear anything.
>
>Well, here are some quotes from the British ambassador to the US.
>Doesn't he speak on behalf of your queen and you?
>
>-Trump's administration is "inept", "insecure", "incompetent" and
>"uniquely disfunctional".
>
>-Trump's presidency could "crash and burn" and "end in disgrace".
>
>-"We don't really believe this administration is going to become
>substantially more normal; less dysfunctional; less unpredictable;
>less faction riven; less diplomatically clumsy and inept."
>
>=======
>
> He doesn't speak for me and I doubt he is speaking for the Queen.
>Isn't he a political figure?
>
> Anyway, you know I am not comfortable discussing politics here. I am
>here to discuss cooking ... if it were possible.

We'll just call it thread drift

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"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 08:26:11 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>>====
>>
>> I guess so. So perhaps they do and just don't see it. But I never
>>hear anything.
>
>Well, here are some quotes from the British ambassador to the US.
>Doesn't he speak on behalf of your queen and you?
>
>-Trump's administration is "inept", "insecure", "incompetent" and
>"uniquely disfunctional".
>
>-Trump's presidency could "crash and burn" and "end in disgrace".
>
>-"We don't really believe this administration is going to become
>substantially more normal; less dysfunctional; less unpredictable;
>less faction riven; less diplomatically clumsy and inept."
>
>=======
>
> He doesn't speak for me and I doubt he is speaking for the Queen.
>Isn't he a political figure?
>
> Anyway, you know I am not comfortable discussing politics here. I am
>here to discuss cooking ... if it were possible.

We'll just call it thread drift

====

Oh go on then ... ;P

Are you doing any cooking today?

I have to be very careful, because D. has been told he has high iron
levels in his blood. So (for the the time being at least) no red meat,
shell fish and a bunch of other stuff. I am making mostly chicken and fish.
Today I have a casserole cooking with chicken and a load of veggies. I have
also roasted a chicken so he can have that in sandwiches or salads. I
usually cook beef, gammon, lamb etc. which we slice and freezer for
sandwiches, salads etc. Let's hope he doesn't get totally fed up with
chicken if or before he is allowed the other stuff.

On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 11:38:41 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>
>
>--
>http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>"Bruce" wrote in message ...
>
>On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 08:26:11 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>>====
>>>
>>> I guess so. So perhaps they do and just don't see it. But I never
>>>hear anything.
>>
>>Well, here are some quotes from the British ambassador to the US.
>>Doesn't he speak on behalf of your queen and you?
>>
>>-Trump's administration is "inept", "insecure", "incompetent" and
>>"uniquely disfunctional".
>>
>>-Trump's presidency could "crash and burn" and "end in disgrace".
>>
>>-"We don't really believe this administration is going to become
>>substantially more normal; less dysfunctional; less unpredictable;
>>less faction riven; less diplomatically clumsy and inept."
>>
>>=======
>>
>> He doesn't speak for me and I doubt he is speaking for the Queen.
>>Isn't he a political figure?
>>
>> Anyway, you know I am not comfortable discussing politics here. I am
>>here to discuss cooking ... if it were possible.
>
>We'll just call it thread drift
>
>====
>
> Oh go on then ... ;P
>
> Are you doing any cooking today?

No, but I'll be cooking beans again tomorrow Adzuki beans, a new
type for me.

> I have to be very careful, because D. has been told he has high iron
>levels in his blood. So (for the the time being at least) no red meat,
>shell fish and a bunch of other stuff. I am making mostly chicken and fish.
>Today I have a casserole cooking with chicken and a load of veggies. I have
>also roasted a chicken so he can have that in sandwiches or salads. I
>usually cook beef, gammon, lamb etc. which we slice and freezer for
>sandwiches, salads etc. Let's hope he doesn't get totally fed up with
>chicken if or before he is allowed the other stuff.

I've only heard of too low levels of iron, except for a pharmacist who
warned against taking too many iron pills.

Isn't pork or rabbit low in iron?

graham wrote:
>
> On 2019-07-06 6:21 a.m., Gary wrote:
> > Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> >
> >> The Great God, JFK, of the U.S. Democrats once stated the opposite of
> >> todays mantra which is now:
> >> "Ask not what you can do for your country. Ask what your country can do
> >> for you."
> >
> > Good for you, Leo. I've been planning to mention exactly that for
> > a long time.
> >
> > JFK would be a republican these days.
> >
>
> And Barry Goldwater would now be a Democrat judging by these quotes of his:
>
> "Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the
> [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a
> terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and
> governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are
> acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know,
> I've tried to deal with them."
>
> "I am a conservative Republican, but I believe in democracy and the
> separation of church and state. The conservative movement is founded on
> the simple tenet that people have the right to live life as they please
> as long as they don't hurt anyone else in the process."
>
> "When you say 'radical right' today, I think of these moneymaking
> ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take
> the Republican Party away from the Republican Party, and make a
> religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics
> goodbye."
>
> "A woman has a right to an abortion. That's a decision that's up to the
> pregnant woman, not up to the pope or some do-gooders or the Religious
> Right."

I'll tell you what, Graham. Barry Goldwater nailed it way back
then. I agree completely with all the above.

I always supported the republican party for economic reasons and
belief. When they merged with the religious nutcases, they lost
me.

Bruce wrote:
>
> I've only heard of too low levels of iron, except for a pharmacist who
> warned against taking too many iron pills.

One-A-Day brand vitamins eliminated iron in their old guy formula
as it's not so good. The heart maybe. I do know that liver and
maybe spinach is high in iron.

As for me, I avoid the iron. Better just to just shake and hang
wet shirts up before they wrinkle.

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I have to be very careful, because D. has been told he has high iron
> levels in his blood. So (for the the time being at least) no red meat,
> shell fish and a bunch of other stuff. I am making mostly chicken and fish.
> Today I have a casserole cooking with chicken and a load of veggies. I have
> also roasted a chicken so he can have that in sandwiches or salads. I
> usually cook beef, gammon, lamb etc. which we slice and freezer for
> sandwiches, salads etc. Let's hope he doesn't get totally fed up with
> chicken if or before he is allowed the other stuff.

Wishing you the best of luck with keeping most valuable D.alive.
I know he counts on you for the menu. Damn doctors always like to
scare the hell out of people.

Gary wrote:

> graham wrote:
> >
> > On 2019-07-06 6:21 a.m., Gary wrote:
> > > Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> > >
> > >> The Great God, JFK, of the U.S. Democrats once stated the opposite of
> > >> todays mantra which is now:
> > >> "Ask not what you can do for your country. Ask what your country can do
> > >> for you."
> > >
> > > Good for you, Leo. I've been planning to mention exactly that for
> > > a long time.
> > >
> > > JFK would be a republican these days.
> > >
> >
> > And Barry Goldwater would now be a Democrat judging by these quotes of his:
> >
> > "Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the
> > [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a
> > terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and
> > governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are
> > acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know,
> > I've tried to deal with them."
> >
> > "I am a conservative Republican, but I believe in democracy and the
> > separation of church and state. The conservative movement is founded on
> > the simple tenet that people have the right to live life as they please
> > as long as they don't hurt anyone else in the process."
> >
> > "When you say 'radical right' today, I think of these moneymaking
> > ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take
> > the Republican Party away from the Republican Party, and make a
> > religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics
> > goodbye."
> >
> > "A woman has a right to an abortion. That's a decision that's up to the
> > pregnant woman, not up to the pope or some do-gooders or the Religious
> > Right."
>
> I'll tell you what, Graham. Barry Goldwater nailed it way back
> then. I agree completely with all the above.
>
> I always supported the republican party for economic reasons and
> belief. When they merged with the religious nutcases, they lost
> me.


Exactly...

Goldwater did not support federally - sponsored civil rights legislation, he said that economics would eventually erase racial barriers, e.g. business would see that to be viable they would have to include minorities in hiring, accomodations, etc....interesting!

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On Sun, 07 Jul 2019 11:42:49 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> I have to be very careful, because D. has been told he has high iron
>> levels in his blood. So (for the the time being at least) no red meat,
>> shell fish and a bunch of other stuff. I am making mostly chicken and fish.
>> Today I have a casserole cooking with chicken and a load of veggies. I have
>> also roasted a chicken so he can have that in sandwiches or salads. I
>> usually cook beef, gammon, lamb etc. which we slice and freezer for
>> sandwiches, salads etc. Let's hope he doesn't get totally fed up with
>> chicken if or before he is allowed the other stuff.

He can probably have 'the other white meat, pork... I much prefer pork
to poultry. We eat very little chicken, and turkey only once a year
for tradition, but we eat many cuts of pork. I often grind pork for
burgers or bulk saw-seege. Meat loaf is very good with 50/50 ground
beef and pork. Boneless pork loin is very lean but mixed with ground
beef chuck (fatty) makes for purfect burgers/meat loaf, also
meat-a-balles. Even better with ground veal, if you can find it. Near
NYC I found veal every day but I never see any upstate. My mom's
favorite dish to cook was braised breast of veal, a scrumptious stew,
naturally anything breast is scrumptious.

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"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 11:38:41 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>
>
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>"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 08:26:11 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>>====
>>>
>>> I guess so. So perhaps they do and just don't see it. But I never
>>>hear anything.
>>
>>Well, here are some quotes from the British ambassador to the US.
>>Doesn't he speak on behalf of your queen and you?
>>
>>-Trump's administration is "inept", "insecure", "incompetent" and
>>"uniquely disfunctional".
>>
>>-Trump's presidency could "crash and burn" and "end in disgrace".
>>
>>-"We don't really believe this administration is going to become
>>substantially more normal; less dysfunctional; less unpredictable;
>>less faction riven; less diplomatically clumsy and inept."
>>
>>=======
>>
>> He doesn't speak for me and I doubt he is speaking for the Queen.
>>Isn't he a political figure?
>>
>> Anyway, you know I am not comfortable discussing politics here. I am
>>here to discuss cooking ... if it were possible.
>
>We'll just call it thread drift
>
>====
>
> Oh go on then ... ;P
>
> Are you doing any cooking today?

No, but I'll be cooking beans again tomorrow Adzuki beans, a new
type for me.

> I have to be very careful, because D. has been told he has high iron
>levels in his blood. So (for the the time being at least) no red meat,
>shell fish and a bunch of other stuff. I am making mostly chicken and
>fish.
>Today I have a casserole cooking with chicken and a load of veggies. I
>have
>also roasted a chicken so he can have that in sandwiches or salads. I
>usually cook beef, gammon, lamb etc. which we slice and freezer for
>sandwiches, salads etc. Let's hope he doesn't get totally fed up with
>chicken if or before he is allowed the other stuff.

I've only heard of too low levels of iron, except for a pharmacist who
warned against taking too many iron pills.

Isn't pork or rabbit low in iron?

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I don't actually know about rabbit. I hadn't thought of that (hmm I have
some in the freezer) Thanks for that idea))

But pork is banished for the moment.

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"Gary" wrote in message ...

Bruce wrote:
>
> I've only heard of too low levels of iron, except for a pharmacist who
> warned against taking too many iron pills.

One-A-Day brand vitamins eliminated iron in their old guy formula
as it's not so good. The heart maybe. I do know that liver and
maybe spinach is high in iron.

As for me, I avoid the iron. Better just to just shake and hang
wet shirts up before they wrinkle.

==

Heh I am with you there))

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"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I have to be very careful, because D. has been told he has high iron
> levels in his blood. So (for the the time being at least) no red meat,
> shell fish and a bunch of other stuff. I am making mostly chicken and
> fish.
> Today I have a casserole cooking with chicken and a load of veggies. I
> have
> also roasted a chicken so he can have that in sandwiches or salads. I
> usually cook beef, gammon, lamb etc. which we slice and freezer for
> sandwiches, salads etc. Let's hope he doesn't get totally fed up with
> chicken if or before he is allowed the other stuff.

Wishing you the best of luck with keeping most valuable D.alive.
I know he counts on you for the menu. Damn doctors always like to
scare the hell out of people.

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Thanks very much, Gary! Yes, he is very valuable