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On 5/17/2019 5:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:39:41 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2019 5:11 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:08:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2019 4:44 PM, Bruce wrote:


When I graduated high school the minimum was was $1.55. Adjusted for
inflation, today it would be $10.41 Obviously, many states did not keep
up.

If you've been in the workforce for a number of years, plug in some
numbers to see how well you've fared over the years.
https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

over the past 40 years most people working in the U.S. have seen no
increase in pay after accounting for inflation

Meanwhile, the fat cats were getting fatter. You guys need Sanders
bad.


The President controls wages? I did not know that.

Sanders and others who think like him, at all levels. A change of
regime.

OK, Socialist would control wages


Anytime someone suggests an improvement to the American system, y'all
go "Aaargh, socialism!" Y'all are a funny lot and nothing will ever
get better


Not sure what you want to improve that will change wages for the average
person. I controlled mine by education, hard work, doing a good job.

We are not a perfect nation, but wage and price controls have not worked
well anywhere. Our tax code needs major overhaul though.

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On Fri, 17 May 2019 18:04:05 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2019 5:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:39:41 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2019 5:11 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:08:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2019 4:44 PM, Bruce wrote:


When I graduated high school the minimum was was $1.55. Adjusted for
inflation, today it would be $10.41 Obviously, many states did not keep
up.

If you've been in the workforce for a number of years, plug in some
numbers to see how well you've fared over the years.
https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

over the past 40 years most people working in the U.S. have seen no
increase in pay after accounting for inflation

Meanwhile, the fat cats were getting fatter. You guys need Sanders
bad.


The President controls wages? I did not know that.

Sanders and others who think like him, at all levels. A change of
regime.

OK, Socialist would control wages


Anytime someone suggests an improvement to the American system, y'all
go "Aaargh, socialism!" Y'all are a funny lot and nothing will ever
get better


Not sure what you want to improve that will change wages for the average
person. I controlled mine by education, hard work, doing a good job.

We are not a perfect nation, but wage and price controls have not worked
well anywhere. Our tax code needs major overhaul though.


No nation's perfect, but only in America do people think that
improvement means socialism
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On 5/17/2019 5:43 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
writes:
On 5/17/2019 5:11 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:08:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2019 4:44 PM, Bruce wrote:


When I graduated high school the minimum was was $1.55. Adjusted for
inflation, today it would be $10.41 Obviously, many states did not keep
up.

If you've been in the workforce for a number of years, plug in some
numbers to see how well you've fared over the years.
https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

over the past 40 years most people working in the U.S. have seen no
increase in pay after accounting for inflation

Meanwhile, the fat cats were getting fatter. You guys need Sanders
bad.


The President controls wages? I did not know that.

Sanders and others who think like him, at all levels. A change of
regime.

OK, Socialist would control wages


"socialist would control wages"

hmm... say it with a Russian accent

I think Ed is a double agent


We WILL control wages! ! !


in Soviet Russia, wages control YOU!!

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Ed Pawlowski wrote in response to some blithering cretin:

Not sure what you want to improve that will change wages for the average
person. I controlled mine by education, hard work, doing a good job.



Exactly, and one should not aim to be "average", but strive to "excel" - which is what you and countless millions have managed to do in order to be successful in life...

Just this week five peeps I know got hired for good manufacturing jobs, they are starting at $19.00 - $23.00/hour, plus good bennies/overtime and such.. Some of these folks will enter apprenticeships (Pipefitters...), etc...even though all were new to manufacturing, they all got *multiple* offers...Illannoy alone has *25,000* vacancies for skilled manufacturing jobs...

Until very recently they were unemployed, doing shit menial jobs, or just released from prison even...they got free short - term manufacturing skills trainings and worked like hell to get ahead. They are on the road to a solid middle - class life of asset - building and financial security...no more food stamps, Medicaid, WIC, having to report to "social workers" ("social workers" I consider enabling --- PARASITES ---) or other handouts for them, they will pay their own way through life and be "productive members of society" as the auld saying goes...

To those who think they are "owed" a "living", my reply is "No one owes you ****..." - and the above - mentioned people will tell you the same thing....

One of my hobbies (or "obssessions", lol) is the economic history of the old Soviet Bloc states, specifically the former "German Democratic Repbublic" aka East Germany, which was considered the "showcase of socialism". Those who pine for "equality" would be wise to study the histories of those vanished states, what Bernie and OAC and their lot are pushing is the exact same failed "socialist" policies that brought the old Soviet Bloc states and the USSR to ruin...or look at present - day Cuba*, DPRK or Venezuela...

[*Cuba just tightened their food rations, the government announced "We will strive to have enough cooking oil - one cup per week - for our citizens..." LOL...!!! ]


We are not a perfect nation, but wage and price controls have not worked
well anywhere. Our tax code needs major overhaul though.



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On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 4:14:25 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 10:56:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 1:47:27 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 03:38:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 12:55:04 AM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
On Thu, 16 May 2019 20:34:53 -0500, Sqwertz
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snip
Nobody had Corned Beef on sale here for St Patricks Day. It used to
be $.99/$1.29 10 for St Pats 10 years ago. I think we're (Central
Texas) being punished for sucking up all the beef brisket from the
U.S. other times of the year. Smoked and trimmed brisket packer
brisket here comes with a 1000%-1200% markup from BBQ trailers and
restaurants ($2/lb raw retail, $24/lb smoked).

-sw
Back in those days you could buy a whole brisket for $.89/pound.
Prices just aren't what they used to be.
Janet US

And wages are higher, too. Food costs in general are quite low,
even if meat prices have increased a lot in the past few years.


Cindy Hamilton

wages are higher for some people


Wages are higher for everybody. Not as much at the bottom end
as the top, of course.

Do you have an example of someone making less money for the
same work now compared to 10 years ago?

Cindy Hamilton


Most of the highly paid skilled trades jobs no longer exist in the
US... most jobs in the US are now low paid desk driving jobs - answer
the phone and know nothing faker jobs.


Sheldon, you are completely out of touch. Most companies don't
have anyone answering the phone; it's done by a computer.

Cindy Hamilton


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On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 5:39:43 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/17/2019 5:11 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:08:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2019 4:44 PM, Bruce wrote:


When I graduated high school the minimum was was $1.55. Adjusted for
inflation, today it would be $10.41 Obviously, many states did not keep
up.

If you've been in the workforce for a number of years, plug in some
numbers to see how well you've fared over the years.
https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

over the past 40 years most people working in the U.S. have seen no
increase in pay after accounting for inflation

Meanwhile, the fat cats were getting fatter. You guys need Sanders
bad.


The President controls wages? I did not know that.


Sanders and others who think like him, at all levels. A change of
regime.

OK, Socialist would control wages


Don't you think it's a little odd that executives in other countries
can get by on something like 20 times the average wage at their
company while U.S. executives get something like 400-500 times the
median wage?

Cindy Hamilton
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In article , says...

writes:
On 5/17/2019 5:43 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
writes:
On 5/17/2019 5:11 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:08:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2019 4:44 PM, Bruce wrote:


When I graduated high school the minimum was was $1.55. Adjusted for
inflation, today it would be $10.41 Obviously, many states did not keep
up.

If you've been in the workforce for a number of years, plug in some
numbers to see how well you've fared over the years.
https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

over the past 40 years most people working in the U.S. have seen no
increase in pay after accounting for inflation

Meanwhile, the fat cats were getting fatter. You guys need Sanders
bad.


The President controls wages? I did not know that.

Sanders and others who think like him, at all levels. A change of
regime.

OK, Socialist would control wages

"socialist would control wages"

hmm... say it with a Russian accent

I think Ed is a double agent


We WILL control wages! ! !


in Soviet Russia, wages control YOU!!


Perhaps US Fox News hasn't told America yet, but Soviet Russia ended
in 1991.

Janet UK
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On Sat, 18 May 2019 03:15:14 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 5:39:43 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/17/2019 5:11 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:08:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

The President controls wages? I did not know that.

Sanders and others who think like him, at all levels. A change of
regime.

OK, Socialist would control wages


Don't you think it's a little odd that executives in other countries
can get by on something like 20 times the average wage at their
company while U.S. executives get something like 400-500 times the
median wage?


Good point.
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In article , says...

On 5/17/2019 5:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:39:41 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2019 5:11 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:08:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2019 4:44 PM, Bruce wrote:


When I graduated high school the minimum was was $1.55. Adjusted for
inflation, today it would be $10.41 Obviously, many states did not keep
up.

If you've been in the workforce for a number of years, plug in some
numbers to see how well you've fared over the years.
https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

over the past 40 years most people working in the U.S. have seen no
increase in pay after accounting for inflation

Meanwhile, the fat cats were getting fatter. You guys need Sanders
bad.


The President controls wages? I did not know that.

Sanders and others who think like him, at all levels. A change of
regime.

OK, Socialist would control wages


Anytime someone suggests an improvement to the American system, y'all
go "Aaargh, socialism!" Y'all are a funny lot and nothing will ever
get better


Not sure what you want to improve that will change wages for the average
person. I controlled mine by education, hard work, doing a good job.

We are not a perfect nation, but wage and price controls have not worked
well anywhere.


Really? In UK, Walmart supermarkets ( trading as "ASDA") are forced
by law to pay their employees UK minimum wage and comply with other UK
employment legislation. Consequently, Walmart employees in UK, do not
suffer like their US counterparts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walmart#Labor_relations

Janet UK




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On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 9:43:23 AM UTC-4, Janet wrote:
In article , says...

On 5/17/2019 5:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:39:41 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2019 5:11 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:08:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2019 4:44 PM, Bruce wrote:


When I graduated high school the minimum was was $1.55. Adjusted for
inflation, today it would be $10.41 Obviously, many states did not keep
up.

If you've been in the workforce for a number of years, plug in some
numbers to see how well you've fared over the years.
https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

over the past 40 years most people working in the U.S. have seen no
increase in pay after accounting for inflation

Meanwhile, the fat cats were getting fatter. You guys need Sanders
bad.


The President controls wages? I did not know that.

Sanders and others who think like him, at all levels. A change of
regime.

OK, Socialist would control wages

Anytime someone suggests an improvement to the American system, y'all
go "Aaargh, socialism!" Y'all are a funny lot and nothing will ever
get better


Not sure what you want to improve that will change wages for the average
person. I controlled mine by education, hard work, doing a good job.

We are not a perfect nation, but wage and price controls have not worked
well anywhere.


Really? In UK, Walmart supermarkets ( trading as "ASDA") are forced
by law to pay their employees UK minimum wage and comply with other UK
employment legislation. Consequently, Walmart employees in UK, do not
suffer like their US counterparts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walmart#Labor_relations

Janet UK


The business of America is business. The government does
relatively little to ensure the welfare of those near the
bottom of the ladder. People vote against their own interests.

Cindy Hamilton


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On 5/18/2019 6:15 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 5:39:43 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/17/2019 5:11 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:08:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2019 4:44 PM, Bruce wrote:


When I graduated high school the minimum was was $1.55. Adjusted for
inflation, today it would be $10.41 Obviously, many states did not keep
up.

If you've been in the workforce for a number of years, plug in some
numbers to see how well you've fared over the years.
https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

over the past 40 years most people working in the U.S. have seen no
increase in pay after accounting for inflation

Meanwhile, the fat cats were getting fatter. You guys need Sanders
bad.


The President controls wages? I did not know that.

Sanders and others who think like him, at all levels. A change of
regime.

OK, Socialist would control wages


Don't you think it's a little odd that executives in other countries
can get by on something like 20 times the average wage at their
company while U.S. executives get something like 400-500 times the
median wage?

Cindy Hamilton


It is wrong. How would you change it? Make a law?
It seems to have gotten worse starting about the 1980s when CEO
compensation was a game of one upsmanship. The board of directors has to
approve that sort of thing too. Stock holders also have a say but
choose to ignore it. Start writing to the board of directors if you own
stock in a company.

We also pay crazy sums of money to celebrities and athletes too. What
gets me, when a pitcher signs a multi-million $ contract, Joe Sixpack
will say something like "but he's worth it"

In a small way I do my part. I don't go to movies or pro sporting
events. I see no reason to support them. I did go to a hockey game
last night. Championship game between two teams of 9 to 12 year olds.
It was a damned fun game to watch, those kids are pretty good.
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On 5/18/2019 9:43 AM, Janet wrote:
In article , says...

On 5/17/2019 5:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:39:41 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2019 5:11 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:08:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2019 4:44 PM, Bruce wrote:


When I graduated high school the minimum was was $1.55. Adjusted for
inflation, today it would be $10.41 Obviously, many states did not keep
up.

If you've been in the workforce for a number of years, plug in some
numbers to see how well you've fared over the years.
https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

over the past 40 years most people working in the U.S. have seen no
increase in pay after accounting for inflation

Meanwhile, the fat cats were getting fatter. You guys need Sanders
bad.


The President controls wages? I did not know that.

Sanders and others who think like him, at all levels. A change of
regime.

OK, Socialist would control wages

Anytime someone suggests an improvement to the American system, y'all
go "Aaargh, socialism!" Y'all are a funny lot and nothing will ever
get better


Not sure what you want to improve that will change wages for the average
person. I controlled mine by education, hard work, doing a good job.

We are not a perfect nation, but wage and price controls have not worked
well anywhere.


Really? In UK, Walmart supermarkets ( trading as "ASDA") are forced
by law to pay their employees UK minimum wage and comply with other UK
employment legislation. Consequently, Walmart employees in UK, do not
suffer like their US counterparts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walmart#Labor_relations

Janet UK





read what I wrote. Wage AND price controls.
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On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 10:56:13 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/18/2019 6:15 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 5:39:43 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/17/2019 5:11 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:08:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2019 4:44 PM, Bruce wrote:


When I graduated high school the minimum was was $1.55. Adjusted for
inflation, today it would be $10.41 Obviously, many states did not keep
up.

If you've been in the workforce for a number of years, plug in some
numbers to see how well you've fared over the years.
https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

over the past 40 years most people working in the U.S. have seen no
increase in pay after accounting for inflation

Meanwhile, the fat cats were getting fatter. You guys need Sanders
bad.


The President controls wages? I did not know that.

Sanders and others who think like him, at all levels. A change of
regime.

OK, Socialist would control wages


Don't you think it's a little odd that executives in other countries
can get by on something like 20 times the average wage at their
company while U.S. executives get something like 400-500 times the
median wage?

Cindy Hamilton


It is wrong. How would you change it? Make a law?


That's a tough one. I'm not sure it can be changed.

It seems to have gotten worse starting about the 1980s when CEO
compensation was a game of one upsmanship.


Absolutely. At a certain point it's just a way of keeping score
against other CEOs. They should just whip them out and measure
them.

The board of directors has to
approve that sort of thing too.


Boards of Directors and CEOs are all scratching each others' backs.

Stock holders also have a say but
choose to ignore it. Start writing to the board of directors if you own
stock in a company.


They don't want to hear from someone who owns a fraction of a share
through a mutual fund.

We also pay crazy sums of money to celebrities and athletes too. What
gets me, when a pitcher signs a multi-million $ contract, Joe Sixpack
will say something like "but he's worth it"


Yep, that's just crazy, too. Some big-name star gets $20 million
and all of the people who make his paycheck possible get union
scale.

In a small way I do my part. I don't go to movies or pro sporting
events. I see no reason to support them. I did go to a hockey game
last night. Championship game between two teams of 9 to 12 year olds.
It was a damned fun game to watch, those kids are pretty good.


I very rarely go to movies. Depending on the residuals, they make
a pinch off me when I buy a DVD.

Cindy Hamilton
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On 5/16/2019 6:51 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
Corned beef just went on sale at the supermarket I shop for $2.99/lb. I
bought a three pound flat. I generally eat corned beef once a year for
St. Pat's Day. Other times, the price is generally atrocious.
It turns out that their St. Pat's corned beef has a sell by date of
5/21 at this supermarket. They didn't sell it all for the big day and
upped the price afterward until the sell by date approached. I'll have
to remember the sell by date next year and plan accordingly.
So I'm going to cook it today, refrigerate it and figure out what to do
with it tomorrow. There's lots of stuff I "could do". I just haven't
decided what yet. It won't go to waste.

leo

Both of the nearby grocery stores sold out of corned beef brisket right
before March 17th this year.

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On 5/16/2019 8:27 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
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You bought just one? I'd probably have snapped another 2 and froze them for
a later date. Anyway, let us know how you prepare it.


That would have been a good idea. Doh!

leo

Doh! is right! When I can find it at a good price I buy at least two of
them and freeze one. Sheldon claims you can't freeze corned beef
brisket, something about the brine, but he'd be wrong about that.

Jill


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