My wife had picked up a package of ground lamb and we had planned to use
it for Shepherds pie. I had some potatoes boiling to be mashed for the
topping. I chopped up the onion,a little garlic and a carrot stick. I
heated up the pan and threw the lamb into it to brown. I was using a
spatula to break it up and it smelled really good, but I realized that
it was not the lamb, but herbs. I checked the package and sure enough it
said that it was herbed ground lamb, but not in lettering that was large
enough our bright enough to notice.

We were committed to the Shepherds Pie. Luckily, the herb seasoning was
on the light side and it did not overpower the flavour ingredients I was
using... Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth. It worked. It turned
out to be the best Shepherds Pie I ever made.

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 12:06:44 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> My wife had picked up a package of ground lamb and we had planned to use
> it for Shepherds pie. I had some potatoes boiling to be mashed for the
> topping. I chopped up the onion,a little garlic and a carrot stick. I
> heated up the pan and threw the lamb into it to brown. I was using a
> spatula to break it up and it smelled really good, but I realized that
> it was not the lamb, but herbs. I checked the package and sure enough it
> said that it was herbed ground lamb, but not in lettering that was large
> enough our bright enough to notice.
>
> We were committed to the Shepherds Pie. Luckily, the herb seasoning was
> on the light side and it did not overpower the flavour ingredients I was
> using... Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth. It worked. It turned
> out to be the best Shepherds Pie I ever made.

shepherds pie was initially invented by the bavarian germans in 1922. they stole the lambs from the jews along with carrots, corn(stolen from the new americas) and peas. they cooked it with jewish hare sauce and topped with irish jewish mashed potatoes.
der lenin hatt gesagt does menschen so wie du sind notwendigen idioten. aber du bist ja kein mensch so wie kannst du ein idiot sein?

On 2/27/2019 10:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

> We were committed to the Shepherds Pie. Luckily, the herb seasoning was
> on the light side and it did not overpower the flavour ingredients I was
> using... Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth.Â*Â* It worked. It turned
> out to be the best Shepherds Pie I ever made.

Sounds good, to me!

nb

On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 10:39:59 -0700, notbob > wrote:

>On 2/27/2019 10:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> We were committed to the Shepherds Pie. Luckily, the herb seasoning was
>> on the light side and it did not overpower the flavour ingredients I was
>> using... Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth.** It worked. It turned
>> out to be the best Shepherds Pie I ever made.
>
>Sounds good, to me!
>
>nb

Never heard of Shepherds Pie with KETCHUP in it Must be some NA
thing.

On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 15:20:28 -0400, wrote:

>On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 10:39:59 -0700, notbob > wrote:
>
>>On 2/27/2019 10:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> We were committed to the Shepherds Pie. Luckily, the herb seasoning was
>>> on the light side and it did not overpower the flavour ingredients I was
>>> using... Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth.** It worked. It turned
>>> out to be the best Shepherds Pie I ever made.
>>
>>Sounds good, to me!
>>
>>nb
>
>Never heard of Shepherds Pie with KETCHUP in it Must be some NA
>thing.

Besides, beef?

On 2019-02-27 2:20 p.m., wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 10:39:59 -0700, notbob > wrote:
>
>> On 2/27/2019 10:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> We were committed to the Shepherds Pie. Luckily, the herb seasoning was
>>> on the light side and it did not overpower the flavour ingredients I was
>>> using... Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth.Â*Â* It worked. It turned
>>> out to be the best Shepherds Pie I ever made.
>>
>> Sounds good, to me!
>>
>> nb
>
> Never heard of Shepherds Pie with KETCHUP in it Must be some NA
> thing.
>

Just a little.

On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 06:24:10 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 15:20:28 -0400, wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 10:39:59 -0700, notbob > wrote:
>>
>>>On 2/27/2019 10:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> We were committed to the Shepherds Pie. Luckily, the herb seasoning was
>>>> on the light side and it did not overpower the flavour ingredients I was
>>>> using... Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth.** It worked. It turned
>>>> out to be the best Shepherds Pie I ever made.
>>>
>>>Sounds good, to me!
>>>
>>>nb
>>
>>Never heard of Shepherds Pie with KETCHUP in it Must be some NA
>>thing.
>
>Besides, beef?

He was correct in that it was lamb, hence Shepherds Pie, but
ketchup????

On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 19:05:50 -0400, wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 06:24:10 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 15:20:28 -0400, wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 10:39:59 -0700, notbob > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2/27/2019 10:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We were committed to the Shepherds Pie. Luckily, the herb seasoning was
>>>>> on the light side and it did not overpower the flavour ingredients I was
>>>>> using... Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth.** It worked. It turned
>>>>> out to be the best Shepherds Pie I ever made.
>>>>
>>>>Sounds good, to me!
>>>>
>>>>nb
>>>
>>>Never heard of Shepherds Pie with KETCHUP in it Must be some NA
>>>thing.
>>
>>Besides, beef?
>
>He was correct in that it was lamb, hence Shepherds Pie, but
>ketchup????

Above I only see mention of beef.

On 2019-02-27 6:05 p.m., wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 06:24:10 +1100, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 15:20:28 -0400, wrote:

>>>>> We were committed to the Shepherds Pie. Luckily, the herb seasoning was
>>>>> on the light side and it did not overpower the flavour ingredients I was
>>>>> using... Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth.Â*Â* It worked. It turned
>>>>> out to be the best Shepherds Pie I ever made.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds good, to me!
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>
>>> Never heard of Shepherds Pie with KETCHUP in it Must be some NA
>>> thing.
>>
>> Besides, beef?
>
> He was correct in that it was lamb, hence Shepherds Pie, but
> ketchup????
>

I got that from a recipe that I found online and there seems to be no
end to variations in Shepherds Pie recipes. Some of the have ingredients
like ketchup, tomato paste, tomato juice, milk, Dijon mustard (obviously
the traditional ingredient), milk, coriander, paprika, mushrooms and
canned tomatoes. I have done it with and without ketchup and it is
better with.

On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 18:48:41 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2019-02-27 6:05 p.m., wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 06:24:10 +1100, Bruce >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 15:20:28 -0400, wrote:
>
>>>>>> We were committed to the Shepherds Pie. Luckily, the herb seasoning was
>>>>>> on the light side and it did not overpower the flavour ingredients I was
>>>>>> using... Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth.** It worked. It turned
>>>>>> out to be the best Shepherds Pie I ever made.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds good, to me!
>>>>>
>>>>> nb
>>>>
>>>> Never heard of Shepherds Pie with KETCHUP in it Must be some NA
>>>> thing.
>>>
>>> Besides, beef?
>>
>> He was correct in that it was lamb, hence Shepherds Pie, but
>> ketchup????
>>
>
>I got that from a recipe that I found online and there seems to be no
>end to variations in Shepherds Pie recipes. Some of the have ingredients
>like ketchup, tomato paste, tomato juice, milk, Dijon mustard (obviously
>the traditional ingredient)

Where did a good old English shepherd get fancy Dijon mustard from?

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 6:16:36 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 19:05:50 -0400, wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 06:24:10 +1100, Bruce >
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 15:20:28 -0400, wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 10:39:59 -0700, notbob > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On 2/27/2019 10:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> We were committed to the Shepherds Pie. Luckily, the herb seasoning was
> >>>>> on the light side and it did not overpower the flavour ingredients I was
> >>>>> using... Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth.Â*Â* It worked. It turned
> >>>>> out to be the best Shepherds Pie I ever made.
> >>>>
> >>>>Sounds good, to me!
> >>>>
> >>>>nb
> >>>
> >>>Never heard of Shepherds Pie with KETCHUP in it Must be some NA
> >>>thing.
> >>
> >>Besides, beef?
> >
> >He was correct in that it was lamb, hence Shepherds Pie, but
> >ketchup????
>
> Above I only see mention of beef.

Quite a bit has been snipped:

"My wife had picked up a package of ground lamb and we had planned to use
it for Shepherds pie."

and

"Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth"

Beef broth, not beef.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2019-02-28 6:03 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 6:16:36 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 19:05:50 -0400, wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 06:24:10 +1100, Bruce >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 15:20:28 -0400, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 10:39:59 -0700, notbob > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/27/2019 10:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We were committed to the Shepherds Pie. Luckily, the herb seasoning was
>>>>>>> on the light side and it did not overpower the flavour ingredients I was
>>>>>>> using... Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth.Â*Â* It worked. It turned
>>>>>>> out to be the best Shepherds Pie I ever made.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds good, to me!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nb
>>>>>
>>>>> Never heard of Shepherds Pie with KETCHUP in it Must be some NA
>>>>> thing.
>>>>
>>>> Besides, beef?
>>>
>>> He was correct in that it was lamb, hence Shepherds Pie, but
>>> ketchup????
>>
>> Above I only see mention of beef.
>
> Quite a bit has been snipped:
>
> "My wife had picked up a package of ground lamb and we had planned to use
> it for Shepherds pie."
>
> and
>
> "Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth"
>
> Beef broth, not beef.


You have to excuse Bruce. He's Bruce. That is reason enough.

On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 03:03:26 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 6:16:36 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 19:05:50 -0400, wrote:
>>
>> >On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 06:24:10 +1100, Bruce >
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 15:20:28 -0400, wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 10:39:59 -0700, notbob > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>On 2/27/2019 10:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> We were committed to the Shepherds Pie. Luckily, the herb seasoning was
>> >>>>> on the light side and it did not overpower the flavour ingredients I was
>> >>>>> using... Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth.** It worked. It turned
>> >>>>> out to be the best Shepherds Pie I ever made.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Sounds good, to me!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>nb
>> >>>
>> >>>Never heard of Shepherds Pie with KETCHUP in it Must be some NA
>> >>>thing.
>> >>
>> >>Besides, beef?
>> >
>> >He was correct in that it was lamb, hence Shepherds Pie, but
>> >ketchup????
>>
>> Above I only see mention of beef.
>
>Quite a bit has been snipped:
>
>"My wife had picked up a package of ground lamb and we had planned to use
>it for Shepherds pie."
>
>and
>
>"Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth"
>
>Beef broth, not beef.

That's still beef.

On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 11:08:54 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2019-02-28 6:03 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 6:16:36 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 19:05:50 -0400, wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 06:24:10 +1100, Bruce >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 15:20:28 -0400, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 10:39:59 -0700, notbob > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/27/2019 10:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We were committed to the Shepherds Pie. Luckily, the herb seasoning was
>>>>>>>> on the light side and it did not overpower the flavour ingredients I was
>>>>>>>> using... Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth.** It worked. It turned
>>>>>>>> out to be the best Shepherds Pie I ever made.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sounds good, to me!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> nb
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Never heard of Shepherds Pie with KETCHUP in it Must be some NA
>>>>>> thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Besides, beef?
>>>>
>>>> He was correct in that it was lamb, hence Shepherds Pie, but
>>>> ketchup????
>>>
>>> Above I only see mention of beef.
>>
>> Quite a bit has been snipped:
>>
>> "My wife had picked up a package of ground lamb and we had planned to use
>> it for Shepherds pie."
>>
>> and
>>
>> "Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth"
>>
>> Beef broth, not beef.
>
>
>You have to excuse Bruce. He's Bruce. That is reason enough.

That's sweet of you.

On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 11:31:22 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 03:03:26 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 6:16:36 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 19:05:50 -0400, wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 06:24:10 +1100, Bruce >
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 15:20:28 -0400, wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 10:39:59 -0700, notbob > wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>On 2/27/2019 10:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> We were committed to the Shepherds Pie. Luckily, the herb seasoning was
> >> >>>>> on the light side and it did not overpower the flavour ingredients I was
> >> >>>>> using... Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth.Â*Â* It worked. It turned
> >> >>>>> out to be the best Shepherds Pie I ever made.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Sounds good, to me!
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>nb
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Never heard of Shepherds Pie with KETCHUP in it Must be some NA
> >> >>>thing.
> >> >>
> >> >>Besides, beef?
> >> >
> >> >He was correct in that it was lamb, hence Shepherds Pie, but
> >> >ketchup????
> >>
> >> Above I only see mention of beef.
> >
> >Quite a bit has been snipped:
> >
> >"My wife had picked up a package of ground lamb and we had planned to use
> >it for Shepherds pie."
> >
> >and
> >
> >"Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth"
> >
> >Beef broth, not beef.
>
> That's still beef.

Perhaps he didn't have any lamb broth on hand and had to make
a substitution.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 09:47:15 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 11:31:22 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 03:03:26 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 6:16:36 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 19:05:50 -0400, wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 06:24:10 +1100, Bruce >
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 15:20:28 -0400, wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 10:39:59 -0700, notbob > wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>On 2/27/2019 10:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> We were committed to the Shepherds Pie. Luckily, the herb seasoning was
>> >> >>>>> on the light side and it did not overpower the flavour ingredients I was
>> >> >>>>> using... Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth.** It worked. It turned
>> >> >>>>> out to be the best Shepherds Pie I ever made.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>Sounds good, to me!
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>nb
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Never heard of Shepherds Pie with KETCHUP in it Must be some NA
>> >> >>>thing.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Besides, beef?
>> >> >
>> >> >He was correct in that it was lamb, hence Shepherds Pie, but
>> >> >ketchup????
>> >>
>> >> Above I only see mention of beef.
>> >
>> >Quite a bit has been snipped:
>> >
>> >"My wife had picked up a package of ground lamb and we had planned to use
>> >it for Shepherds pie."
>> >
>> >and
>> >
>> >"Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth"
>> >
>> >Beef broth, not beef.
>>
>> That's still beef.
>
>Perhaps he didn't have any lamb broth on hand and had to make
>a substitution.

I didn't know that was allowed.

On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 09:47:15 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 11:31:22 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 03:03:26 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 6:16:36 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 19:05:50 -0400, wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 06:24:10 +1100, Bruce >
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 15:20:28 -0400, wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 10:39:59 -0700, notbob > wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>On 2/27/2019 10:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> We were committed to the Shepherds Pie. Luckily, the herb seasoning was
>> >> >>>>> on the light side and it did not overpower the flavour ingredients I was
>> >> >>>>> using... Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth.** It worked. It turned
>> >> >>>>> out to be the best Shepherds Pie I ever made.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>Sounds good, to me!
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>nb
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Never heard of Shepherds Pie with KETCHUP in it Must be some NA
>> >> >>>thing.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Besides, beef?
>> >> >
>> >> >He was correct in that it was lamb, hence Shepherds Pie, but
>> >> >ketchup????
>> >>
>> >> Above I only see mention of beef.
>> >
>> >Quite a bit has been snipped:
>> >
>> >"My wife had picked up a package of ground lamb and we had planned to use
>> >it for Shepherds pie."
>> >
>> >and
>> >
>> >"Worcestershire, ketchup and beef broth"
>> >
>> >Beef broth, not beef.
>>
>> That's still beef.
>
>Perhaps he didn't have any lamb broth on hand and had to make
>a substitution.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I make it in traditional fashion and it doesn't require broth.