On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 2:06:50 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 2019-02-12 11:19 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 11:12:05 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:24:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> >>>> ...
> >>>>> On 2019-02-11 6:01 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> > wrote in message
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard
> >>>>>>> 18,
> >>>>>>> 20, 22
> >>>>>>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest
> >>>>>>> occupies.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> No. They are too tall.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Really? You know.. they come in different sizes. Oh yeah... we have
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> reject every suggestion.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No bigger.
> >>>> Not
> >>>> big enough. I know how to measure.
> >>>
> >>> so, your house doesn't have regulation ceilings?
> >>
> >> She probably has a cupboard over the fridge. My previous house
> >> had that, and my husband had to trim it a little the day the
> >> fridge was delivered.
> >>
> >> IIRC said she needs a fridge 64 inches tall, which is shorter
> >> than me. I'd have the gardener remove the cupboard and get a
> >> bigger fridge (when the old one dies, of course).
> >>
> >
> > Or.... go out shopping in a proper appliance store and find one that will
> > fit. How large a fridge does a single woman need?
>
> I don't know who posted above but as I said... The cabinet can't be moved.
> It's built in to the cabinets on either side.

Anything can be moved.

When we moved the fridge away from the stove, we took down all of the wall
cabinets, removed the screws that held them together, swapped the
right-hand set for the left hand set, and hung them back up.

Obviously, you can't perform those actions yourself. But your lack
of physical aptitude is exceeded only by your lack of imagination.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 23:09:01 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 11:40:24 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On 2019-02-12 11:19 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 11:12:05 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:24:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On 2019-02-11 6:01 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard
>>>>>>>>> 18,
>>>>>>>>> 20, 22
>>>>>>>>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest
>>>>>>>>> occupies.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No. They are too tall.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really? You know.. they come in different sizes. Oh yeah... we
>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>> reject every suggestion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No
>>>>>> bigger. Not
>>>>>> big enough. I know how to measure.
>>>>>
>>>>> so, your house doesn't have regulation ceilings?
>>>>
>>>> She probably has a cupboard over the fridge. My previous house
>>>> had that, and my husband had to trim it a little the day the
>>>> fridge was delivered.
>>>>
>>>> IIRC said she needs a fridge 64 inches tall, which is shorter
>>>> than me. I'd have the gardener remove the cupboard and get a
>>>> bigger fridge (when the old one dies, of course).
>>>>
>>>
>>>Or.... go out shopping in a proper appliance store and find one that
>>>will fit. How large a fridge does a single woman need?
>>
>> with a computer you can find almost anything that you want. I would
>> think that large stores around Seattle with Internet presence would
>> have the ability to order in and deliver whatever.
>
>Not when you need a certain color, size and other parameters. I wanted one
>to match the stove. The color is biscuit. I did not want an ice mater or
>water dispenser. I also didn't want to spend a fortune.

On the Internet you can do a month's worth of shopping in 30 minutes.
Then you have it narrowed down, who has biscuit, what size and what
features, also you know what you're going to have to pay. You pick
the model number you want and go to the store, check out the color
biscuit to see if it matched and then place an order. I am assuming
that you brought the oven door along with you so that you could be
sure of a color match to the stove?

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 23:09:01 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 11:40:24 -0500, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2019-02-12 11:19 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 11:12:05 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B.
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:24:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> On 2019-02-11 6:01 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a
>>>>>>>>>> standard
>>>>>>>>>> 18,
>>>>>>>>>> 20, 22
>>>>>>>>>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest
>>>>>>>>>> occupies.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No. They are too tall.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Really? You know.. they come in different sizes. Oh yeah... we
>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>> reject every suggestion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No
>>>>>>> bigger. Not
>>>>>>> big enough. I know how to measure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so, your house doesn't have regulation ceilings?
>>>>>
>>>>> She probably has a cupboard over the fridge. My previous house
>>>>> had that, and my husband had to trim it a little the day the
>>>>> fridge was delivered.
>>>>>
>>>>> IIRC said she needs a fridge 64 inches tall, which is shorter
>>>>> than me. I'd have the gardener remove the cupboard and get a
>>>>> bigger fridge (when the old one dies, of course).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Or.... go out shopping in a proper appliance store and find one that
>>>>will fit. How large a fridge does a single woman need?
>>>
>>> with a computer you can find almost anything that you want. I would
>>> think that large stores around Seattle with Internet presence would
>>> have the ability to order in and deliver whatever.
>>
>>Not when you need a certain color, size and other parameters. I wanted one
>>to match the stove. The color is biscuit. I did not want an ice mater or
>>water dispenser. I also didn't want to spend a fortune.
>
> On the Internet you can do a month's worth of shopping in 30 minutes.
> Then you have it narrowed down, who has biscuit, what size and what
> features, also you know what you're going to have to pay. You pick
> the model number you want and go to the store, check out the color
> biscuit to see if it matched and then place an order. I am assuming
> that you brought the oven door along with you so that you could be
> sure of a color match to the stove?

I'm not stupid. No need to bring the oven door. The oven door is black. The
rest of the stove is biscuit. Why in the world would you just assume that I
didn't know how to buy a fridge? I bought it all on my own. Have had it for
rears.

Julie Bove wrote:

>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:24:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> >>>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> On 2019-02-11 6:01 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>>>> > wrote in message
> >>> >
> >>>>>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a
> >>standard 18, >>>> 20, 22
> >>>>>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest
> >>>>>> occupies.
> >>> > >
> >>>>> No. They are too tall.
> >>> >
> >>>> Really? You know.. they come in different sizes. Oh yeah... we
> >>have to >> reject every suggestion.
> > > >
> >>> Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No
> >>> bigger. Not big enough. I know how to measure.
> > >
> > > so, your house doesn't have regulation ceilings?
> >
> > Julie posted a picture once and it's a box like area that can't be
> > expanded or taller with much ease. Like me, she has cabinets built
> > above it that don't allow for a taller unit and width issues that do
> > not allow for much wider.
> >
> > I have the tall restrictions but can go as wide as I want here if
> > willing to rearrange the rest of the kitchen. I'd have to measure
> > for exact but I am about 64 inches top height max. She mentioned it
> > about 3 years ago and I recall looking up units that fit the space.
> > There were not many choices at all that fit her space limits.
> >
> > Carol
>
> Thank you!!!

Welcome! I've not located the post but I recall it had a link to a
picture and it was clear that even if you spent a lot of money with a
major re-do, it was a difficult design issue.

Much like my kitchen and the lack of counter space. There are things I
'can' do but they only rob peter to pay paul. As it is, I have the
optimal use with a freestanding counter/cabinet that is lower than
traditional, but great for a 5ft1 person looking into a bread machine
or crockpot (both of which would be too tall on a regular counter).
Meat grinder at right level too when I bring it out.

I did check my fridge out since I was going on memory and I have a
little more top height than you before awkward upper cabinet issues (68
inches and current one is 66 inches). I can go as wide as I want to as
there is no cabinet to it's right (other than freestanding items).

The current unit is one I got before we moved to Japan and was used by
the renters as well as us later. Looks pretty bad but works fine.
It's about 22years old. I'm occasionally checking 66inch tall units
that are wider and maximize the regular fridge space (especially
crisper areas). I do NOT want an ice dispensor or water in the door
and don't have hookups on that wall for water anyways.

Do I recall the picture right of your kitchen that part of it was a
doorway issue? I could easily be wrong as it was a long time ago but I
seem to recall adapting the cabinet for the fridge area to be bigger,
created a storage problem to the side with no good solution. No place
for larger pots or something? THat or a lack of easily reached cabinet
area with too much 'way up there and need a ladder'.

Carol

Julie Bove wrote:

>
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 2019-02-12 1:45 p.m., Gary wrote:
> > > Julie Bove wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No
> > > > bigger. Not big enough. I know how to measure.
> > >
> > > But you don't know how to adapt. You live alone, a small
> > > apartment size would work well for you if you weren't so damn
> > > picky.
> > >
> >
> > We have a large fridge considering that there is just the two of
> > us. We need the room because there are lots of things we like
> > that we store in there. I can't imagine there would be any reason
> > for Julie to need a large fridge because there isn't much that she
> > likes.
>
> I like fresh veggies. I also like a variety of cheese and keep other
> things that need to be refrigerated. Chia seeds, flax seeds, wheat
> germ. Insulin... I get 90 days worth and I use very high doses.

For me it's the fresh veggies. We go through 5 cups a day between
lunch and dinner. I need far more crisper space than I have.

I love my over-fridge cabinet. I can reach everything with the use of a folding small
step stool. I keep KA mixer attachments, a large T' ware container with pasta in it,
my slow-cooker, my big rectangular two-part Wearever turkey roaster (used mostly
for caramel corn, because I can use the two parts for a big batch...the top and bottom
are mostly the same size and depth), and other stuff like that. Oh, and my new
deep rectangular electric frypan (love it!).

These are all things I don't use on a daily, or some of them, even a weekly basis, so
the cupboard is perfect because it is out of the way.

N.

On 2/14/2019 8:44 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> I love my over-fridge cabinet. I can reach everything with the use of a folding small
> step stool. I keep KA mixer attachments, a large T' ware container with pasta in it,
> my slow-cooker, my big rectangular two-part Wearever turkey roaster (used mostly
> for caramel corn, because I can use the two parts for a big batch...the top and bottom
> are mostly the same size and depth), and other stuff like that. Oh, and my new
> deep rectangular electric frypan (love it!).
>
> These are all things I don't use on a daily, or some of them, even a weekly basis, so
> the cupboard is perfect because it is out of the way.
>
> N.
>
I've not bothered hiding anything in ours yet. The fridge is fairly
deep and high (70") so it is a 23" reach to the doors. To the back is
35" so you cannot put anything that could not be grabbed from just
inside the door. Maybe some once a year thing would be OK, nothing used
even once a month.

On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 23:09:46 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 2/14/2019 8:44 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>> I love my over-fridge cabinet. I can reach everything with the use of a folding small
>> step stool. I keep KA mixer attachments, a large T' ware container with pasta in it,
>> my slow-cooker, my big rectangular two-part Wearever turkey roaster (used mostly
>> for caramel corn, because I can use the two parts for a big batch...the top and bottom
>> are mostly the same size and depth), and other stuff like that. Oh, and my new
>> deep rectangular electric frypan (love it!).
>>
>> These are all things I don't use on a daily, or some of them, even a weekly basis, so
>> the cupboard is perfect because it is out of the way.
>>
>> N.
>>
>I've not bothered hiding anything in ours yet. The fridge is fairly
>deep and high (70") so it is a 23" reach to the doors. To the back is
>35" so you cannot put anything that could not be grabbed from just
>inside the door. Maybe some once a year thing would be OK, nothing used
>even once a month.

exactly so

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>
>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:24:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> >>>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> >>> ...
>> >>>> On 2019-02-11 6:01 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>> >>> > >
>> >>>>> > wrote in message
>> >>> >
>> >>>>>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a
>> >>standard 18, >>>> 20, 22
>> >>>>>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest
>> >>>>>> occupies.
>> >>> > >
>> >>>>> No. They are too tall.
>> >>> >
>> >>>> Really? You know.. they come in different sizes. Oh yeah... we
>> >>have to >> reject every suggestion.
>> > > >
>> >>> Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No
>> >>> bigger. Not big enough. I know how to measure.
>> > >
>> > > so, your house doesn't have regulation ceilings?
>> >
>> > Julie posted a picture once and it's a box like area that can't be
>> > expanded or taller with much ease. Like me, she has cabinets built
>> > above it that don't allow for a taller unit and width issues that do
>> > not allow for much wider.
>> >
>> > I have the tall restrictions but can go as wide as I want here if
>> > willing to rearrange the rest of the kitchen. I'd have to measure
>> > for exact but I am about 64 inches top height max. She mentioned it
>> > about 3 years ago and I recall looking up units that fit the space.
>> > There were not many choices at all that fit her space limits.
>> >
>> > Carol
>>
>> Thank you!!!
>
> Welcome! I've not located the post but I recall it had a link to a
> picture and it was clear that even if you spent a lot of money with a
> major re-do, it was a difficult design issue.
>
> Much like my kitchen and the lack of counter space. There are things I
> 'can' do but they only rob peter to pay paul. As it is, I have the
> optimal use with a freestanding counter/cabinet that is lower than
> traditional, but great for a 5ft1 person looking into a bread machine
> or crockpot (both of which would be too tall on a regular counter).
> Meat grinder at right level too when I bring it out.
>
> I did check my fridge out since I was going on memory and I have a
> little more top height than you before awkward upper cabinet issues (68
> inches and current one is 66 inches). I can go as wide as I want to as
> there is no cabinet to it's right (other than freestanding items).
>
> The current unit is one I got before we moved to Japan and was used by
> the renters as well as us later. Looks pretty bad but works fine.
> It's about 22years old. I'm occasionally checking 66inch tall units
> that are wider and maximize the regular fridge space (especially
> crisper areas). I do NOT want an ice dispensor or water in the door
> and don't have hookups on that wall for water anyways.
>
> Do I recall the picture right of your kitchen that part of it was a
> doorway issue? I could easily be wrong as it was a long time ago but I
> seem to recall adapting the cabinet for the fridge area to be bigger,
> created a storage problem to the side with no good solution. No place
> for larger pots or something? THat or a lack of easily reached cabinet
> area with too much 'way up there and need a ladder'.
>
> Carol

No. That wasn't me. I have a pic on my phone but it's not saved to my
computer. My kitchen is a galley one. No doorway.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 2019-02-12 1:45 p.m., Gary wrote:
>> > > Julie Bove wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No
>> > > > bigger. Not big enough. I know how to measure.
>> > >
>> > > But you don't know how to adapt. You live alone, a small
>> > > apartment size would work well for you if you weren't so damn
>> > > picky.
>> > >
>> >
>> > We have a large fridge considering that there is just the two of
>> > us. We need the room because there are lots of things we like
>> > that we store in there. I can't imagine there would be any reason
>> > for Julie to need a large fridge because there isn't much that she
>> > likes.
>>
>> I like fresh veggies. I also like a variety of cheese and keep other
>> things that need to be refrigerated. Chia seeds, flax seeds, wheat
>> germ. Insulin... I get 90 days worth and I use very high doses.
>
> For me it's the fresh veggies. We go through 5 cups a day between
> lunch and dinner. I need far more crisper space than I have.

Me too.

On 2/14/2019 11:09 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 2/14/2019 8:44 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>> I love my over-fridge cabinet.Â* I can reach everything with the use of
>> a folding small
>> step stool.Â* I keep KA mixer attachments, a large T' ware container
>> with pasta in it,
>> my slow-cooker, my big rectangular two-part Wearever turkey roaster
>> (used mostly
>> for caramel corn, because I can use the two parts for a big
>> batch...the top and bottom
>> are mostly the same size and depth), and other stuff like that.Â* Oh,
>> and my new
>> deep rectangular electric frypan (love it!).
>>
>> These are all things I don't use on a daily, or some of them, even a
>> weekly basis, so
>> the cupboard is perfect because it is out of the way.

> I've not bothered hiding anything in ours yet.Â* The fridge is fairly
> deep and high (70") so it is a 23" reach to the doors.Â* To the back is
> 35" so you cannot put anything that could not be grabbed from just
> inside the door.Â* Maybe some once a year thing would be OK, nothing used
> even once a month.

Okay, you made me look. The Tall One was in the kitchen so I asked
to see what's up there. Some Tupperware thing I never use any more,
the large bail jar we use for iced tea in the summer, the rolling pin,
my banana hanger, and aluminum grease catcher pans for the grill.

I never would have found any of those things. I couldn't reach them
even with one of those Grab-Its even if I thought to search there.

nancy

On 2/15/2019 8:57 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> Okay, you made me look. The Tall One was in the kitchen so I asked
> to see what's up there.Â* Some Tupperware thing I never use any more,
> the large bail jar we use for iced tea in the summer, the rolling pin,
> my banana hanger, and aluminum grease catcher pans for the grill.
>
> I never would have found any of those things.Â* I couldn't reach them
> even with one of those Grab-Its even if I thought to search there.
>
> nancy

Made me look, too! I had to get up on the step-ladder to take a pic of
what is in the cabinet above the fridge. As I suspected, cocktail glasses.

https://i.postimg.cc/vBby5cdh/above-fridge-left.jpg

and

https://i.postimg.cc/ZK9GBrdZ/above-fridge-right.jpg

They're grimy. My mother packed them away when they moved here in 1987.
Looks like they're waiting to be washed and used on some 1950's old
movie set. Sorry, I'm not taking them out of the cabinet to wash them
then put them back. This is the sort of thing I don't care about.
That's why the cabinet over the fridge is there. (laughing)

Jill

On Friday, February 15, 2019 at 12:24:46 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 2/15/2019 8:57 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> > Okay, you made me look. The Tall One was in the kitchen so I asked
> > to see what's up there.Â* Some Tupperware thing I never use any more,
> > the large bail jar we use for iced tea in the summer, the rolling pin,
> > my banana hanger, and aluminum grease catcher pans for the grill.
> >
> > I never would have found any of those things.Â* I couldn't reach them
> > even with one of those Grab-Its even if I thought to search there.
> >
> > nancy
>
> Made me look, too! I had to get up on the step-ladder to take a pic of
> what is in the cabinet above the fridge. As I suspected, cocktail glasses.
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/vBby5cdh/above-fridge-left.jpg
>
> and
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/ZK9GBrdZ/above-fridge-right.jpg
>
> They're grimy. My mother packed them away when they moved here in 1987.
> Looks like they're waiting to be washed and used on some 1950's old
> movie set. Sorry, I'm not taking them out of the cabinet to wash them
> then put them back. This is the sort of thing I don't care about.
> That's why the cabinet over the fridge is there. (laughing)
>
> Jill

I've been trying to remove everything from the top tier of
cabinets and take it to the (gasp) basement. Instead of a
soffit, crown molding, etc., my kitchen has a row of short
(maybe 12") cabinets all around the top. When we moved in
in 2000 it seemed like a good idea to put the wine glasses
and other stuff we use only for entertaining in those cabinets.
They required washing every time they were used, anyway.

Cindy Hamilton

On Friday, February 15, 2019 at 11:24:46 AM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
> I had to get up on the step-ladder to take a pic of
> what is in the cabinet above the fridge. As I suspected, cocktail glasses.
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/vBby5cdh/above-fridge-left.jpg
>
> Jill
>
I've got your matching water glasses to those cocktail glasses.

On 2/15/2019 1:20 PM, wrote:
> On Friday, February 15, 2019 at 11:24:46 AM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>
>> I had to get up on the step-ladder to take a pic of
>> what is in the cabinet above the fridge. As I suspected, cocktail glasses.
>>
>> https://i.postimg.cc/vBby5cdh/above-fridge-left.jpg
>>
>> Jill
>>
> I've got your matching water glasses to those cocktail glasses.
>
The glasses with the gold leaves? I vaguely remember water (or were
they rocks glasses?) glasses but I guess they got broken over the years.
I've never had any use for this kind of glassware. But that's what is
in the cabinet above the fridge. Thanks, Mom! <wink>

Jill

On Friday, February 15, 2019 at 12:37:14 PM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
> On 2/15/2019 1:20 PM, wrote:
>
> > On Friday, February 15, 2019 at 11:24:46 AM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
> >>
> >> I had to get up on the step-ladder to take a pic of
> >> what is in the cabinet above the fridge. As I suspected, cocktail glasses.
> >>
> >> https://i.postimg.cc/vBby5cdh/above-fridge-left.jpg
> >>
> >> Jill
> >>
> > I've got your matching water glasses to those cocktail glasses.
> >
> The glasses with the gold leaves? I vaguely remember water (or were
> they rocks glasses?) glasses but I guess they got broken over the years.
> I've never had any use for this kind of glassware. But that's what is
> in the cabinet above the fridge. Thanks, Mom! <wink>
>
> Jill
>
Yes. If I remember correctly they are made by Libby Glass Company and are called 'Autumn Leaves.' (Imagine that!) I need to look up their value and
attempt to sell them as they are just taking up precious cabinet space.

On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 13:37:07 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 2/15/2019 1:20 PM, wrote:
>> On Friday, February 15, 2019 at 11:24:46 AM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>
>>> I had to get up on the step-ladder to take a pic of
>>> what is in the cabinet above the fridge. As I suspected, cocktail glasses.
>>>
>>> https://i.postimg.cc/vBby5cdh/above-fridge-left.jpg
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>> I've got your matching water glasses to those cocktail glasses.
>>
>The glasses with the gold leaves? I vaguely remember water (or were
>they rocks glasses?) glasses but I guess they got broken over the years.
> I've never had any use for this kind of glassware. But that's what is
>in the cabinet above the fridge. Thanks, Mom! <wink>
>
>Jill

I've got grandma's crystal up in that cabinet. ;-)

Julie Bove wrote:

>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > >
> >>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> >>> On 2019-02-12 1:45 p.m., Gary wrote:
> >>> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one.
> No >>> > > bigger. Not big enough. I know how to measure.
> >>> >
> >>> > But you don't know how to adapt. You live alone, a small
> >>> > apartment size would work well for you if you weren't so damn
> >>> > picky.
> >>> >
> > > >
> >>> We have a large fridge considering that there is just the two of
> >>> us. We need the room because there are lots of things we like
> >>> that we store in there. I can't imagine there would be any
> reason >>> for Julie to need a large fridge because there isn't much
> that she >>> likes.
> > >
> > > I like fresh veggies. I also like a variety of cheese and keep
> > > other things that need to be refrigerated. Chia seeds, flax
> > > seeds, wheat germ. Insulin... I get 90 days worth and I use very
> > > high doses.
> >
> > For me it's the fresh veggies. We go through 5 cups a day between
> > lunch and dinner. I need far more crisper space than I have.
>
> Me too.

I posted this to a lady who said she had 'too many mushrooms' (she'd
bought 2 packs and wanted to know what to do with them)

-----------
LOL! I can not IMAGINE having too many mushrooms but then with the
exception of fresh baked bread, they go in almost everything here.

Try this simple one out.

Veggie Medley:
2 cups diced leafy greens (spinach, mustard green, Asian broccoli
leaves)
2 cups thin sliced carrots
2 cups diced bell peppers
1 cup diced lotus root (leftovers steamed, and canned water chestnut is
an alternative)
1 cup chopped King Oyster mushroom
1 cup chopped red onion
4-6 cloves minced garlic

I bagged up 1/2 of that for tomorrow's lunch.

Now add olive oil and a little butter, a very simple stir fry results.
You can even add meats to make it a main dish.

3 adults here, 3-4 cups veggies total means 1 cup plus a bit each and
that is our norm for both lunch and dinner.
-----------

Although the exact items in your kitchen wouldn't probably be the same
(and mine vary with what is handy), it's apt to not be too terribly far
off some things I've seen you post. THat one can also be a salad
fixing.

I'd pair it with beans if looking for a veggie dish. We eat an average
of 2 cups of veggies (cooked or raw) a day per adult here.

Nancy2 wrote:

> I love my over-fridge cabinet. I can reach everything with the use
> of a folding small step stool. I keep KA mixer attachments, a large
> T' ware container with pasta in it, my slow-cooker, my big
> rectangular two-part Wearever turkey roaster (used mostly for caramel
> corn, because I can use the two parts for a big batch...the top and
> bottom are mostly the same size and depth), and other stuff like
> that. Oh, and my new deep rectangular electric frypan (love it!).
>
> These are all things I don't use on a daily, or some of them, even a
> weekly basis, so the cupboard is perfect because it is out of the way.
>
> N.

I have my duck pan with lid and the big pan for roasting turkeys up
there, plus cndlemaking supplies and things like that. It's a 5-5.5ft
upper section with fridge under one part by a pantry section.

Thats why I can go as wide in fridges as I want. What's under it now
next to the fridge is a thin cube-like wooden shelf unit (pastas and
flours are kept there along with dried beans and on top of it my
vertical rotisserrie) then to the side is my freestanding lower kitchen
cabinet with a butcher-block looking laminate top.

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
news
On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 13:37:07 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 2/15/2019 1:20 PM, wrote:
>> On Friday, February 15, 2019 at 11:24:46 AM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>
>>> I had to get up on the step-ladder to take a pic of
>>> what is in the cabinet above the fridge. As I suspected, cocktail
>>> glasses.
>>>
>>> https://i.postimg.cc/vBby5cdh/above-fridge-left.jpg
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>> I've got your matching water glasses to those cocktail glasses.
>>
>The glasses with the gold leaves? I vaguely remember water (or were
>they rocks glasses?) glasses but I guess they got broken over the years.
> I've never had any use for this kind of glassware. But that's what is
>in the cabinet above the fridge. Thanks, Mom! <wink>
>
>Jill

I've got grandma's crystal up in that cabinet. ;-)

==

I keep all mine on display on my Welsh dresser)

On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 13:37:07 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

> The glasses with the gold leaves? I vaguely remember water (or were
> they rocks glasses?) glasses but I guess they got broken over the years.
> I've never had any use for this kind of glassware. But that's what is
> in the cabinet above the fridge. Thanks, Mom! <wink>

I had to use a hammer claw to open the two little cabinets above the
range hood last week (no, I do not have a vent conduit inside
there). I found candles, shot glasses, and a pasta drying rack.

I didn't think about on top of the fridge. I'd need clear off the
top of the fridge first. Nah!

In my apartment in Columbus OH I found a half-ounce bag of dirt weed
and a car ashtray full of roaches. It looked like they had been up
for over 5 years - probably closer to 10. The dirt weed was
physically turning back into dirt.

-sw

-sw

On 2019-02-15 12:24 p.m., jmcquown wrote:

> https://i.postimg.cc/vBby5cdh/above-fridge-left.jpg
>
> and
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/ZK9GBrdZ/above-fridge-right.jpg
>
> They're grimy.Â* My mother packed them away when they moved here in 1987.
> Â*Looks like they're waiting to be washed and used on some 1950's old
> movie set.Â* Sorry, I'm not taking them out of the cabinet to wash them
> then put them back.Â* This is the sort of thing I don't care about.
> That's why the cabinet over the fridge is there. (laughing)
>


That's like the cupboard over our fridge. It is where we keep the good
crystal glasses that we rarely use. It is amazing how dirty they get
sitting on a closed cabinet. About once a year I take them down and give
them a wash.

On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 20:16:12 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
>news >

>
>I've got grandma's crystal up in that cabinet. ;-)
>
>==
>
>I keep all mine on display on my Welsh dresser)
>
that's where I have my mother's stuff.

On 2/15/2019 4:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-02-15 12:24 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>
>> https://i.postimg.cc/vBby5cdh/above-fridge-left.jpg
>>
>> and
>>
>> https://i.postimg.cc/ZK9GBrdZ/above-fridge-right.jpg
>>
>> They're grimy.Â* My mother packed them away when they moved here in
>> 1987. Â*Â*Looks like they're waiting to be washed and used on some
>> 1950's old movie set.Â* Sorry, I'm not taking them out of the cabinet
>> to wash them then put them back.Â* This is the sort of thing I don't
>> care about. That's why the cabinet over the fridge is there. (laughing)
>>
>
>
> That's like the cupboard over our fridge. It is where we keep the good
> crystal glasses that we rarely use. It is amazing how dirty they get
> sitting on a closed cabinet. About once a year I take them down and give
> them a wash.
>
Until this thread I hadn't really thought about what might be in those
cabinets over the fridge. Obviously not a place to store things that
get much use!

Jill

On 2/15/2019 3:16 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "U.S. Janet B."Â* wrote in message
> news >
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 13:37:07 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/15/2019 1:20 PM, wrote:
>>> On Friday, February 15, 2019 at 11:24:46 AM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I had to get up on the step-ladder to take a pic of
>>>> what is in the cabinet above the fridge.Â* As I suspected, cocktail
>>>> glasses.
>>>>
>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/vBby5cdh/above-fridge-left.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>> I've got your matching water glasses to those cocktail glasses.
>>>
>> The glasses with the gold leaves?Â* I vaguely remember water (or were
>> they rocks glasses?) glasses but I guess they got broken over the years.
>> Â*I've never had any use for this kind of glassware.Â* But that's what is
>> in the cabinet above the fridge.Â* Thanks, Mom! <wink>
>>
>> Jill
>
> I've got grandma'sÂ* crystal up in that cabinet. ;-)
>
> ==
>
> I keep all mine on display on my Welsh dresser)
>
>
I only have four glasses, actual glass, not crystal from my grandmother.
We use them on a regular basis.

I have a set of China that was hers too, but since it is not dishwasher
safe it is not used often, but the sugar bowl is on the counter and used
all the time.

We also have some Tyrone crystal that we bought, mostly about 30 years
ago. We use it all the time too. I just don't see the sense of buying
nice stuff to tuck away so the kids can sell it for cheap after we are
gone.

On 2/15/2019 1:54 PM, wrote:
> On Friday, February 15, 2019 at 12:37:14 PM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>
>> On 2/15/2019 1:20 PM, wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, February 15, 2019 at 11:24:46 AM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I had to get up on the step-ladder to take a pic of
>>>> what is in the cabinet above the fridge. As I suspected, cocktail glasses.
>>>>
>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/vBby5cdh/above-fridge-left.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>> I've got your matching water glasses to those cocktail glasses.
>>>
>> The glasses with the gold leaves? I vaguely remember water (or were
>> they rocks glasses?) glasses but I guess they got broken over the years.
>> I've never had any use for this kind of glassware. But that's what is
>> in the cabinet above the fridge. Thanks, Mom! <wink>
>>
>> Jill
>>
> Yes. If I remember correctly they are made by Libby Glass Company and are called 'Autumn Leaves.' (Imagine that!) I need to look up their value and
> attempt to sell them as they are just taking up precious cabinet space.
>
Maybe I should try to sell those little cocktail glasses. What kind of
cocktails would the those short-stemmed glasses be used for?

Jill

On 2/15/2019 6:49 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> We also have some Tyrone crystal that we bought, mostly about 30 years
> ago.Â* We use it all the time too.Â* I just don't see the sense of buying
> nice stuff to tuck away so the kids can sell it for cheap after we are
> gone.

My parents actually used the cocktail glasses I wound up with for a
goodly number of years. When I was very young and my dad was rising in
the military ranks they frequently hosted cocktail parties. On some
afternoons my mother hosted luncheons for the other O'wives. I'm
talking around 1965/66. The women all got dressed up (I remember hats
and gloves). I *know* they weren't drinking tea. LOL

Don't ask me why my mother continued to pack and move this glassware
around for *decades* until they finally settled in this house. She
probably never thought about what would happen to it after she died.
It's still here. Doesn't matter. It's not hurting anything sitting in
the cabinet above the fridge.

Jill

I have really sturdy "grabbers," and can even use one to tug out my electric frypan or slow
cooker if I don't feel like messing with the folding stool. I pull them forward until they are about
halfway out, and then ease it into my hands just above the top of the fridge. But I couldn't reach anything
in the back of the cupboard without the stool. When I need these things, I am glad I have them; but
I am glad they don't take up more accessible real estate in my cupboards.

N.

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
...

On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 20:16:12 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
>news >

>
>I've got grandma's crystal up in that cabinet. ;-)
>
>==
>
>I keep all mine on display on my Welsh dresser)
>
that's where I have my mother's stuff.

==

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>
>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> >>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> > > ...
>> >>> On 2019-02-12 1:45 p.m., Gary wrote:
>> >>> > Julie Bove wrote:
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one.
>> No >>> > > bigger. Not big enough. I know how to measure.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > But you don't know how to adapt. You live alone, a small
>> >>> > apartment size would work well for you if you weren't so damn
>> >>> > picky.
>> >>> >
>> > > >
>> >>> We have a large fridge considering that there is just the two of
>> >>> us. We need the room because there are lots of things we like
>> >>> that we store in there. I can't imagine there would be any
>> reason >>> for Julie to need a large fridge because there isn't much
>> that she >>> likes.
>> > >
>> > > I like fresh veggies. I also like a variety of cheese and keep
>> > > other things that need to be refrigerated. Chia seeds, flax
>> > > seeds, wheat germ. Insulin... I get 90 days worth and I use very
>> > > high doses.
>> >
>> > For me it's the fresh veggies. We go through 5 cups a day between
>> > lunch and dinner. I need far more crisper space than I have.
>>
>> Me too.
>
> I posted this to a lady who said she had 'too many mushrooms' (she'd
> bought 2 packs and wanted to know what to do with them)
>
> -----------
> LOL! I can not IMAGINE having too many mushrooms but then with the
> exception of fresh baked bread, they go in almost everything here.
>
> Try this simple one out.
>
> Veggie Medley:
> 2 cups diced leafy greens (spinach, mustard green, Asian broccoli
> leaves)
> 2 cups thin sliced carrots
> 2 cups diced bell peppers
> 1 cup diced lotus root (leftovers steamed, and canned water chestnut is
> an alternative)
> 1 cup chopped King Oyster mushroom
> 1 cup chopped red onion
> 4-6 cloves minced garlic
>
> I bagged up 1/2 of that for tomorrow's lunch.
>
> Now add olive oil and a little butter, a very simple stir fry results.
> You can even add meats to make it a main dish.
>
> 3 adults here, 3-4 cups veggies total means 1 cup plus a bit each and
> that is our norm for both lunch and dinner.
> -----------
>
> Although the exact items in your kitchen wouldn't probably be the same
> (and mine vary with what is handy), it's apt to not be too terribly far
> off some things I've seen you post. THat one can also be a salad
> fixing.
>
> I'd pair it with beans if looking for a veggie dish. We eat an average
> of 2 cups of veggies (cooked or raw) a day per adult here.

We eat more than that but very few mushrooms. I learned to add a few for
flavor. But too many and it won't get eaten.

Julie Bove wrote:

>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > >
> >>"cshenk" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> >>> Julie Bove wrote:
> > > >
> >>> >
> >>>>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> >>> > ...
> >>>>> On 2019-02-12 1:45 p.m., Gary wrote:
> >>>>> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > > Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one.
> >>No >>> > > bigger. Not big enough. I know how to measure.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > But you don't know how to adapt. You live alone, a small
> >>>>> > apartment size would work well for you if you weren't so damn
> >>>>> > picky.
> >>>>> >
> >>> > >
> >>>>> We have a large fridge considering that there is just the two of
> >>>>> us. We need the room because there are lots of things we like
> >>>>> that we store in there. I can't imagine there would be any
> >>reason >>> for Julie to need a large fridge because there isn't
> much >>that she >>> likes.
> >>> >
> >>> > I like fresh veggies. I also like a variety of cheese and keep
> >>> > other things that need to be refrigerated. Chia seeds, flax
> >>> > seeds, wheat germ. Insulin... I get 90 days worth and I use very
> >>> > high doses.
> > > >
> >>> For me it's the fresh veggies. We go through 5 cups a day between
> >>> lunch and dinner. I need far more crisper space than I have.
> > >
> > > Me too.
> >
> > I posted this to a lady who said she had 'too many mushrooms' (she'd
> > bought 2 packs and wanted to know what to do with them)
> >
> > -----------
> > LOL! I can not IMAGINE having too many mushrooms but then with the
> > exception of fresh baked bread, they go in almost everything here.
> >
> > Try this simple one out.
> >
> > Veggie Medley:
> > 2 cups diced leafy greens (spinach, mustard green, Asian broccoli
> > leaves)
> > 2 cups thin sliced carrots
> > 2 cups diced bell peppers
> > 1 cup diced lotus root (leftovers steamed, and canned water
> > chestnut is an alternative)
> > 1 cup chopped King Oyster mushroom
> > 1 cup chopped red onion
> > 4-6 cloves minced garlic
> >
> > I bagged up 1/2 of that for tomorrow's lunch.
> >
> > Now add olive oil and a little butter, a very simple stir fry
> > results. You can even add meats to make it a main dish.
> >
> > 3 adults here, 3-4 cups veggies total means 1 cup plus a bit each
> > and that is our norm for both lunch and dinner.
> > -----------
> >
> > Although the exact items in your kitchen wouldn't probably be the
> > same (and mine vary with what is handy), it's apt to not be too
> > terribly far off some things I've seen you post. THat one can also
> > be a salad fixing.
> >
> > I'd pair it with beans if looking for a veggie dish. We eat an
> > average of 2 cups of veggies (cooked or raw) a day per adult here.
>
> We eat more than that but very few mushrooms. I learned to add a few
> for flavor. But too many and it won't get eaten.

Thats fine! We eat more than that too but that's a main portion of it.
Paired would be bread or rice, beans possiby, small meat portion and
some fruits.

Although there are wild differences in our cooking, there are places of
similiarity as well.

I think the main difference is you are more apt to make different meals
for folks while I will just have a side dish one doesnt like (but the
other 2 do) so make one of the other side dishes have plenty extra to
make up (and something the other really likes).

Take Spinach for example. Don hates it because it was apparently at
every meal when he was a kid. Charlotte and I love it. He does not
mind it if it's just a bit in a soup and says the 'water spinach'
(Asian, Kangkoon or Kangkong and other names) is more tolerable as it's
a milder flavor to him. So if I steam up a bunch of greens for a meal,
I'll separate the Kangkoon from the asian broccoli spears with a row of
carrots and Charlotte and I will split the spinach and leave him more
of the spears.

It's a long weekend here so Don and I made up 'Rice Porridge' (similar
or Congee or Juk but more stuff added). It's got little tastey bits of
just about everything in the fridge/freezer that we put aside for this.

Dinner is Charlotte's promised pizza (and mini-break from dieting for
the Navy entry) so the Juk/Rice porridge balances over at a healthy
serving being about 200 calories for 2.33 cups.

On 2019-02-17 10:29 a.m., cshenk wrote:

> I think the main difference is you are more apt to make different meals
> for folks while I will just have a side dish one doesnt like (but the
> other 2 do) so make one of the other side dishes have plenty extra to
> make up (and something the other really likes).
>
> Take Spinach for example. Don hates it because it was apparently at
> every meal when he was a kid. Charlotte and I love it.

I am not interested in spinach as a side. I at it too many times as a
kid where it was overcooked and had that nasty flavour that spinach
develops when cooked too long. I have since had it barely steamed
(lightly steamed for Jill's benefit ;-) ) and I know that it is much
more palatable that way, but I still can't get over the years of
nastiness. However, I find it very pleasant as an ingredient. I love
spanakopita and similar dishes. One of my favourite egg dishes is
scrambled eggs with spinach with hot sauce. I also like Eggs
Florentine. I had tried it at a place that added chopped spinach to an
imitation Hollandaise sauce. I have tried it more recently as a couple
local restaurants that use a real Hollandaise sauce and blanched spinach.


One of the best soups I ever had was one I ordered as the lesser of two
evils in a restaurant two coarse menu. The first course was a choice of
Caesar salad or spinach soup. I opted for the soup and thought I would
have less qualms about leaving most of it. There was nothing left. It
was so good I ate it to the last drop.




He does not
> mind it if it's just a bit in a soup and says the 'water spinach'
> (Asian, Kangkoon or Kangkong and other names) is more tolerable as it's
> a milder flavor to him.

He and I would agree that it is okay as an ingredient but not as the
star ingredient. You might try the scrambled eggs and spinach with hot
sauce. That is a great combination.

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2019-02-17 10:29 a.m., cshenk wrote:
>
> > I think the main difference is you are more apt to make different
> > meals for folks while I will just have a side dish one doesnt like
> > (but the other 2 do) so make one of the other side dishes have
> > plenty extra to make up (and something the other really likes).
> >
> > Take Spinach for example. Don hates it because it was apparently at
> > every meal when he was a kid. Charlotte and I love it.
>
> I am not interested in spinach as a side. I at it too many times as a
> kid where it was overcooked and had that nasty flavour that spinach
> develops when cooked too long. I have since had it barely steamed
> (lightly steamed for Jill's benefit ;-) ) and I know that it is much
> more palatable that way, but I still can't get over the years of
> nastiness. However, I find it very pleasant as an ingredient. I love
> spanakopita and similar dishes. One of my favourite egg dishes is
> scrambled eggs with spinach with hot sauce. I also like Eggs
> Florentine. I had tried it at a place that added chopped spinach to
> an imitation Hollandaise sauce. I have tried it more recently as a
> couple local restaurants that use a real Hollandaise sauce and
> blanched spinach.
>
>
> One of the best soups I ever had was one I ordered as the lesser of
> two evils in a restaurant two coarse menu. The first course was a
> choice of Caesar salad or spinach soup. I opted for the soup and
> thought I would have less qualms about leaving most of it. There was
> nothing left. It was so good I ate it to the last drop.


Sounds good!


> He does not
> > mind it if it's just a bit in a soup and says the 'water spinach'
> > (Asian, Kangkoon or Kangkong and other names) is more tolerable as
> > it's a milder flavor to him.
>
> He and I would agree that it is okay as an ingredient but not as the
> star ingredient. You might try the scrambled eggs and spinach with
> hot sauce. That is a great combination.

Not a hot sauce fan set here but defininalty overall into spicy!

On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 12:26:26 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2019-02-17 10:29 a.m., cshenk wrote:
>
>> I think the main difference is you are more apt to make different meals
>> for folks while I will just have a side dish one doesnt like (but the
>> other 2 do) so make one of the other side dishes have plenty extra to
>> make up (and something the other really likes).
>>
>> Take Spinach for example. Don hates it because it was apparently at
>> every meal when he was a kid. Charlotte and I love it.
>
>I am not interested in spinach as a side. I at it too many times as a
>kid where it was overcooked and had that nasty flavour that spinach
>develops when cooked too long. I have since had it barely steamed
>(lightly steamed for Jill's benefit ;-) ) and I know that it is much
>more palatable that way, but I still can't get over the years of
>nastiness. However, I find it very pleasant as an ingredient. I love
>spanakopita and similar dishes. One of my favourite egg dishes is
>scrambled eggs with spinach with hot sauce. I also like Eggs
>Florentine. I had tried it at a place that added chopped spinach to an
>imitation Hollandaise sauce. I have tried it more recently as a couple
>local restaurants that use a real Hollandaise sauce and blanched spinach.
>
>
>One of the best soups I ever had was one I ordered as the lesser of two
>evils in a restaurant two coarse menu. The first course was a choice of
>Caesar salad or spinach soup. I opted for the soup and thought I would
>have less qualms about leaving most of it. There was nothing left. It
>was so good I ate it to the last drop.
>
>
>
>
> He does not
>> mind it if it's just a bit in a soup and says the 'water spinach'
>> (Asian, Kangkoon or Kangkong and other names) is more tolerable as it's
>> a milder flavor to him.
>
>He and I would agree that it is okay as an ingredient but not as the
>star ingredient. You might try the scrambled eggs and spinach with hot
>sauce. That is a great combination.

Creamed spinach a la Horn & Hardart is a very long time favorite...
since young childhood. I also like raw spinach in a tossed salad...
good in a sandwich in place of lettuce. The one think that trums
sspinach is fresh beet tops... it irks me how buy fresh beets, rip off
the tops and leave them. I ask the produce guy and he always says to
help myself before they go in the trash.

wrote:
>
> I also like raw spinach in a tossed salad...
> good in a sandwich in place of lettuce.

Raw leafy spinach "good in a sandwich in place of lettuce?"
You're really more messed up than I ever imagined.
Ask Squertz if you want to make a good sandwich.
You obviously don't know how.

On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 13:33:03 -0500, Gary > wrote:

wrote:
>>
>> I also like raw spinach in a tossed salad...
>> good in a sandwich in place of lettuce.
>
>Raw leafy spinach "good in a sandwich in place of lettuce?"
>You're really more messed up than I ever imagined.
>Ask Squertz if you want to make a good sandwich.
>You obviously don't know how.

Sqwertz constantly puts you down, calls you names and insults you. Yet
you continue to suck up to "Stevers" like a dependent doggie. Are you
into *** SM?

On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 1:33:15 PM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> wrote:
> >
> > I also like raw spinach in a tossed salad...
> > good in a sandwich in place of lettuce.
>
> Raw leafy spinach "good in a sandwich in place of lettuce?"
> You're really more messed up than I ever imagined.
> Ask Squertz if you want to make a good sandwich.
> You obviously don't know how.

It depends on the sandwich. Let's say, hummus, cucumber, tomato,
onion, and spinach.

Chicken with ranch dressing and spinach.

Pork with spinach, soy, scallions, and a bare smear of chili-garlic sauce.

Cindy Hamilton

wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 12:26:26 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2019-02-17 10:29 a.m., cshenk wrote:
>>
>>> I think the main difference is you are more apt to make different meals
>>> for folks while I will just have a side dish one doesnt like (but the
>>> other 2 do) so make one of the other side dishes have plenty extra to
>>> make up (and something the other really likes).
>>>
>>> Take Spinach for example. Don hates it because it was apparently at
>>> every meal when he was a kid. Charlotte and I love it.
>>
>> I am not interested in spinach as a side. I at it too many times as a
>> kid where it was overcooked and had that nasty flavour that spinach
>> develops when cooked too long. I have since had it barely steamed
>> (lightly steamed for Jill's benefit ;-) ) and I know that it is much
>> more palatable that way, but I still can't get over the years of
>> nastiness. However, I find it very pleasant as an ingredient. I love
>> spanakopita and similar dishes. One of my favourite egg dishes is
>> scrambled eggs with spinach with hot sauce. I also like Eggs
>> Florentine. I had tried it at a place that added chopped spinach to an
>> imitation Hollandaise sauce. I have tried it more recently as a couple
>> local restaurants that use a real Hollandaise sauce and blanched spinach.
>>
>>
>> One of the best soups I ever had was one I ordered as the lesser of two
>> evils in a restaurant two coarse menu. The first course was a choice of
>> Caesar salad or spinach soup. I opted for the soup and thought I would
>> have less qualms about leaving most of it. There was nothing left. It
>> was so good I ate it to the last drop.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> He does not
>>> mind it if it's just a bit in a soup and says the 'water spinach'
>>> (Asian, Kangkoon or Kangkong and other names) is more tolerable as it's
>>> a milder flavor to him.
>>
>> He and I would agree that it is okay as an ingredient but not as the
>> star ingredient. You might try the scrambled eggs and spinach with hot
>> sauce. That is a great combination.
>
> Creamed spinach a la Horn & Hardart is a very long time favorite...
> since young childhood. I also like raw spinach in a tossed salad...
> good in a sandwich in place of lettuce. The one think that trums
> sspinach is fresh beet tops... it irks me how buy fresh beets, rip off
> the tops and leave them. I ask the produce guy and he always says to
> help myself before they go in the trash.
>

No pic Popeye ... Yoose a liar and a faggot.

On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 12:33:15 PM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
>
> wrote:
> >
> > I also like raw spinach in a tossed salad...
> > good in a sandwich in place of lettuce.
>
> Raw leafy spinach "good in a sandwich in place of lettuce?"
> You're really more messed up than I ever imagined.
> Ask Squertz if you want to make a good sandwich.
> You obviously don't know how.
>
I've had spinach on a hamburger instead of lettuce m-a-n-y years ago and when
offered I thought the hostess was nuts but I was polite and put a few leaves
on my burger. Surprisingly it was very tasty! If you haven't tried it, don't
turn your nose up at something you have not experienced.

wrote:
> On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 12:33:15 PM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
>>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I also like raw spinach in a tossed salad...
>>> good in a sandwich in place of lettuce.
>>
>> Raw leafy spinach "good in a sandwich in place of lettuce?"
>> You're really more messed up than I ever imagined.
>> Ask Squertz if you want to make a good sandwich.
>> You obviously don't know how.
>>
> I've had spinach on a hamburger instead of lettuce m-a-n-y years ago and when
> offered I thought the hostess was nuts but I was polite and put a few leaves
> on my burger. Surprisingly it was very tasty! If you haven't tried it, don't
> turn your nose up at something you have not experienced.
>

If Popeye recommends it, it must be the cat's meow. He's the strongest
man in the world!

Spinachburgers.