"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2019-02-11 6:27 p.m., wrote:
>> On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 5:01:50 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18,
>>>> 20,
>>>> 22
>>>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest
>>>> occupies.
>>>
>>> No. They are too tall.
>>>
>> You are an idiot; an absolute dumbest of the dumb. No wonder your
>> husband
>> dumped your stupid ass.
>>
> Having bought three appliances in the last 6 weeks I have spend a fair
> amount of time looking at the different makes and models. There is an
> amazing variety of configurations and sizes. There are tall ones short
> ones, wide ones, skinny ones and every combination there of.

Yes. And at the time I got this, this was the only one that would fit my
space.

> wrote in message
...
> On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 10:10:42 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 15:27:59 -0800 (PST), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >You are an idiot; an absolute dumbest of the dumb. No wonder your
>> >husband
>> >dumped your stupid ass.
>>
>> Hey Jo-Jo, tell us about YOUR husband.
>>
> I killed him, chopped him up, cooked him, and then fed him to the hogs.
> Anymore
> questions? I also cleaned out his bank account, sold his prized pickup
> truck,
> and got a nice settlement from his life insurance policy.

You probably did!

On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 11:55:18 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
> On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 7:19:53 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > The new fridge arrived yesterday. To my wife's delight, this one has
> > the bottom mount freezer. I ordered it on Monday and was told it would
> > likely be 2-3 weeks before delivery, depending on the manufacturer's
> > warehouse stock. I was surprised to get a call on Thursday saying it was
> > scheduled for delivery on Saturday.
> >
> > I had asked about changing the door to open from the right because it
> > sits in the corner with the wall to the left. I was told there is a $20
> > charge for that. I thought it was a little much but agreed.
> >
> > When the fridge came I checked about the door and was by the lead guy
> > told it was the standard open to the right and I would have to contact
> > the service department. I called up and was on hold waiting to talk to
> > them about having paid for the left mount and it not being done.
> > Meanwhile, the guys had removed the door to get it into the kitchen. I
> > told them I was still on hold. The guy said he could mount it on the
> > other side for me but that I would have to move the handle. Then the
> > third guy said he would do the handle. The job that I was being charged
> > for was about 2 minutes more work than just remounted it to the factory
> > spec. They had a socket on a drill. The hinge bracket was already off.
> > All he had to do was to pop out three plugs, turn the bracket upside
> > down, screw the bolts in on the other side and then plug the holes from
> > the original spot. The handle came off with an Allen key and two bolts.
> > Meanwhile, my wife dug out the bill and it turned out the reason it had
> > not been reversed at the warehouse was that the saleswoman had forgotten
> > to put it on the bill and I had nor paid for it after all, so I ended up
> > getting that little extra for free.
> >
> >
> > I had to let it sit level for an hour before we started it up. Glad to
> > say it came on with no problem. When we loaded the food into it I stuck
> > in some freshly filled ice cube trays. They were frozen solid within two
> > hours.
> >
> > I have to agree with my wife about the convenience of the bottom mounted
> > freezer. It may be a bit of an issue to have to crouch to get stuff
> > out of the freezer, but everything in the fridge is much more accessible.
>
> Congrats on your new fridge. Hopefully, it will prove to be relatively
> trouble free.
>
> My wife and I were working on our fridge yesterday. The nylon bushing on the
> hinge pin on one side had crapped out causing a bunch of problems: the
> center door seal wouldn't engage, the ice maker to ice dispenser seal
> wouldn't seal, the freezer gasket wouldn't wouldn't seal because rust from
> the hinge pin grinding itself to death would clump on the magnetic gasket.
> This machine has been just a bunch of trouble for us. It's one unlucky
> machine!
>
> ---
>
> I've never had one with an ice maker. As a kid, my friend had one. It made
> somewhat largish half circles that tended to melt slightly and stick
> together. One day we went to her house after school. When she opened the
> freezer door, all these cubes tumbled out. It was chock full and still
> producing. My friend was a math whiz but apparently not too bright in other
> departments. She climbed up to the top shelf of the cupboard and got down
> her dad's favorite bar type glasses. I remember my dad having some that we
> weren't allowed to touch. All dads seemed to in those days.
>
> She tried filling the glasses repeatedly then dumping them down the sink. Of
> course this was taking forever. I knew nothing about ice makers but assumed
> that it could be shut off and mentioned it. She said it could but she needed
> to get the cubes out first. I told her to get a bucket. She said she
> couldn't because it was in the other room. So I said to use the dishpan. She
> said she couldn't because it had some dishes in it. I then told her to use a
> mixing bowl or something but she was hell bent on using those glasses. I
> didn't know where stuff was kept in the kitchen but I did find a big bowl.
> And just as I was taking it out of the cupboard, her dad came home from
> work. He saw her with the glasses, ice all over the floor.Yelled at her for
> touching the glasses. This startled her and she dropped them. They broke,
> adding to the mess.
>
> Meanwhile, her dad grabbed the bowl from me and managed to get enough ice
> out fairly quickly using the bowl, then shut off the ice maker.
>
> I think I was 7 or 8 at the time. Put me right off of that type of ice
> maker.

I can see how that would be a traumatizing experience.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2019-02-12 6:17 a.m., Nancy Young wrote:
> On 2/11/2019 10:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-02-11 8:11 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> When we got a new fridge in the last house I had to cut down the
>>> cabinet about 2" for it to fit.Â* You could not tell it no longer had
>>> a bottom.
>>
>>
>> I had a similar problem with our previous fridge. It turned out to be
>> about 1/16 inch too high for the space. Fortunately there was a bit of
>> a lip on the cupboard above it and I was able to shave it down and get
>> the fridge in under it. There was enough space on each side for
>> ventilation. Â*Â*A few years ago we remodeled the kitchen shortened the
>> cupboard a bit and there is now about a 2" gap.Â* This time I made sure
>> to measure before ordering the fridge.
>
> When we had the kitchen remodeled, we kept the old refrigerator for
> some time as it still worked fine.Â* However, it was on the small side
> so it fit into the space no problem.
>
> When it came time to replace it, we got one as big as would fit, the
> way it was meant to be.Â* On delivery day, Ron was measuring, he knew
> something was off.Â* Well, the countertop on one side stuck out.Â* Seems
> so obvious.Â* Of course the truck is pulling in the driveway.
>
> I quick grabbed a screwdriver and took that counter off, so all's well
> that ends well, good thing I didn't have stone countertops.Â* A local
> cabinet maker cut an inch off the countertop so it worked out.
>
> I am not sure that thing is screwed down or just sitting there, now
> that I think about it.
>
When we had our kitchen done a few years ago my wife insisted on a
countertop to slide the portable dishwasher under. It restricted the
width of the passage into the kitchen. The contractor had constructed
it to have a backing and a narrow cupboard on one end to hold baking
pans. It is secured to the wall with three screws. I simply had to
unscrew the them and slide it over a few inches to move the things in
and out and then screw it back later. Since I recently got a dryer, a
stove and a fridge it has been unscrewed and moved three times in the
last 6 weeks.

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:24:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
>> On 2019-02-11 6:01 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> > wrote in message
>>
>>>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18,
>>>> 20, 22
>>>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest
>>>> occupies.
>>>
>>> No. They are too tall.
>>
>> Really? You know.. they come in different sizes. Oh yeah... we have to
>> reject every suggestion.
>
>Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No bigger. Not
>big enough. I know how to measure.

so, your house doesn't have regulation ceilings?

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 06:17:26 -0500, Nancy Young >
wrote:
snip
>
>When it came time to replace it, we got one as big as would fit, the
>way it was meant to be. On delivery day, Ron was measuring, he knew
>something was off. Well, the countertop on one side stuck out. Seems
>so obvious. Of course the truck is pulling in the driveway.
>
>I quick grabbed a screwdriver and took that counter off, so all's well
>that ends well, good thing I didn't have stone countertops. A local
>cabinet maker cut an inch off the countertop so it worked out.
>
>I am not sure that thing is screwed down or just sitting there, now
>that I think about it.
>
>nancy
we sawed off the 2 inch overhang on the adjacent counter so that we
could get a wider fridge. Refrigerators now come deeper than they
used so more space that way as well.

On 2/12/2019 9:39 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-02-12 6:17 a.m., Nancy Young wrote:

>> I quick grabbed a screwdriver and took that counter off, so all's well
>> that ends well, good thing I didn't have stone countertops.Â* A local
>> cabinet maker cut an inch off the countertop so it worked out.
>>
>> I am not sure that thing is screwed down or just sitting there, now
>> that I think about it.
>>
> When we had our kitchen done a few years ago my wife insisted on a
> countertop to slide the portable dishwasher under. It restricted the
> width of the passage into the kitchen.Â* The contractor had constructed
> it to have a backing and a narrow cupboard on one end to hold baking
> pans.Â* It is secured to the wall with three screws. I simply had to
> unscrew the them and slide it over a few inches to move the things in
> and out and then screw it back later.Â* Since I recently got a dryer, a
> stove and a fridge it has been unscrewed and moved three times in the
> last 6 weeks.

Ha, the next owner is going to go crazy, how did they get the
appliances in here???

nancy

On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 11:12:05 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:24:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> On 2019-02-11 6:01 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > wrote in message
> >>
> >>>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18,
> >>>> 20, 22
> >>>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest
> >>>> occupies.
> >>>
> >>> No. They are too tall.
> >>
> >> Really? You know.. they come in different sizes. Oh yeah... we have to
> >> reject every suggestion.
> >
> >Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No bigger. Not
> >big enough. I know how to measure.
>
> so, your house doesn't have regulation ceilings?

She probably has a cupboard over the fridge. My previous house
had that, and my husband had to trim it a little the day the
fridge was delivered.

IIRC said she needs a fridge 64 inches tall, which is shorter
than me. I'd have the gardener remove the cupboard and get a
bigger fridge (when the old one dies, of course).

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 08:19:50 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 11:12:05 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:24:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> On 2019-02-11 6:01 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > wrote in message
>> >>
>> >>>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18,
>> >>>> 20, 22
>> >>>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest
>> >>>> occupies.
>> >>>
>> >>> No. They are too tall.
>> >>
>> >> Really? You know.. they come in different sizes. Oh yeah... we have to
>> >> reject every suggestion.
>> >
>> >Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No bigger. Not
>> >big enough. I know how to measure.
>>
>> so, your house doesn't have regulation ceilings?
>
>She probably has a cupboard over the fridge. My previous house
>had that, and my husband had to trim it a little the day the
>fridge was delivered.
>
>IIRC said she needs a fridge 64 inches tall, which is shorter
>than me. I'd have the gardener remove the cupboard and get a
>bigger fridge (when the old one dies, of course).
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I have a cabinet up there too, I hadn't considered a larger cabinet
over the fridge. Those cabinets (IMO) are largely spaces for stuff
you don't want to see again.

On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 11:26:11 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 08:19:50 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 11:12:05 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:24:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> On 2019-02-11 6:01 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> > wrote in message
> >> >>
> >> >>>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18,
> >> >>>> 20, 22
> >> >>>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest
> >> >>>> occupies.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> No. They are too tall.
> >> >>
> >> >> Really? You know.. they come in different sizes. Oh yeah... we have to
> >> >> reject every suggestion.
> >> >
> >> >Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No bigger. Not
> >> >big enough. I know how to measure.
> >>
> >> so, your house doesn't have regulation ceilings?
> >
> >She probably has a cupboard over the fridge. My previous house
> >had that, and my husband had to trim it a little the day the
> >fridge was delivered.
> >
> >IIRC said she needs a fridge 64 inches tall, which is shorter
> >than me. I'd have the gardener remove the cupboard and get a
> >bigger fridge (when the old one dies, of course).
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> I have a cabinet up there too, I hadn't considered a larger cabinet
> over the fridge. Those cabinets (IMO) are largely spaces for stuff
> you don't want to see again.

Agreed. IIRC my in-laws kept the "good" flatware up there,
so it was only used on Thanksgiving (and they had 5 sons to
retrieve it).

Still, it's very odd to have such a large cabinet over the
fridge. Then again, we know Julie has a very odd house.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2019-02-12 11:18 a.m., Nancy Young wrote:
> On 2/12/2019 9:39 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-02-12 6:17 a.m., Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>> I quick grabbed a screwdriver and took that counter off, so all's well
>>> that ends well, good thing I didn't have stone countertops.Â* A local
>>> cabinet maker cut an inch off the countertop so it worked out.
>>>
>>> I am not sure that thing is screwed down or just sitting there, now
>>> that I think about it.
>>>
>> When we had our kitchen done a few years ago my wife insisted on a
>> countertop to slide the portable dishwasher under. It restricted the
>> width of the passage into the kitchen.Â* The contractor had constructed
>> it to have a backing and a narrow cupboard on one end to hold baking
>> pans.Â* It is secured to the wall with three screws. I simply had to
>> unscrew the them and slide it over a few inches to move the things in
>> and out and then screw it back later.Â* Since I recently got a dryer, a
>> stove and a fridge it has been unscrewed and moved three times in the
>> last 6 weeks.
>
> Ha, the next owner is going to go crazy, how did they get the
> appliances in here???
>

We will have to move the counter over to get our stuff out. It's three
screws.

On 2019-02-12 11:19 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 11:12:05 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:24:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 2019-02-11 6:01 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18,
>>>>>> 20, 22
>>>>>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest
>>>>>> occupies.
>>>>>
>>>>> No. They are too tall.
>>>>
>>>> Really? You know.. they come in different sizes. Oh yeah... we have to
>>>> reject every suggestion.
>>>
>>> Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No bigger. Not
>>> big enough. I know how to measure.
>>
>> so, your house doesn't have regulation ceilings?
>
> She probably has a cupboard over the fridge. My previous house
> had that, and my husband had to trim it a little the day the
> fridge was delivered.
>
> IIRC said she needs a fridge 64 inches tall, which is shorter
> than me. I'd have the gardener remove the cupboard and get a
> bigger fridge (when the old one dies, of course).
>

Or.... go out shopping in a proper appliance store and find one that
will fit. How large a fridge does a single woman need?

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 11:40:24 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2019-02-12 11:19 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 11:12:05 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:24:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 2019-02-11 6:01 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18,
>>>>>>> 20, 22
>>>>>>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest
>>>>>>> occupies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. They are too tall.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? You know.. they come in different sizes. Oh yeah... we have to
>>>>> reject every suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No bigger. Not
>>>> big enough. I know how to measure.
>>>
>>> so, your house doesn't have regulation ceilings?
>>
>> She probably has a cupboard over the fridge. My previous house
>> had that, and my husband had to trim it a little the day the
>> fridge was delivered.
>>
>> IIRC said she needs a fridge 64 inches tall, which is shorter
>> than me. I'd have the gardener remove the cupboard and get a
>> bigger fridge (when the old one dies, of course).
>>
>
>Or.... go out shopping in a proper appliance store and find one that
>will fit. How large a fridge does a single woman need?

with a computer you can find almost anything that you want. I would
think that large stores around Seattle with Internet presence would
have the ability to order in and deliver whatever.

On 2/12/2019 11:26 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:

>>
>> IIRC said she needs a fridge 64 inches tall, which is shorter
>> than me. I'd have the gardener remove the cupboard and get a
>> bigger fridge (when the old one dies, of course).
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> I have a cabinet up there too, I hadn't considered a larger cabinet
> over the fridge. Those cabinets (IMO) are largely spaces for stuff
> you don't want to see again.
>

I mentioned I took the bottom out of the cabinet in the old house. The
stuff that was in it had been there for year. It went directly to the
donation box. There is a nice cabinet over the fridge here. Empty, but
I may stiff a couple of things in there to hide forever. Impractical to
get to.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On 2/12/2019 11:26 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> >>
> >> IIRC said she needs a fridge 64 inches tall, which is shorter
> >> than me. I'd have the gardener remove the cupboard and get a
> >> bigger fridge (when the old one dies, of course).
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > I have a cabinet up there too, I hadn't considered a larger cabinet
> > over the fridge. Those cabinets (IMO) are largely spaces for stuff
> > you don't want to see again.
> >
>
> I mentioned I took the bottom out of the cabinet in the old house. The
> stuff that was in it had been there for year. It went directly to the
> donation box. There is a nice cabinet over the fridge here. Empty, but
> I may stiff a couple of things in there to hide forever. Impractical to
> get to.

Places like that are good to store rarely used things.

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 12:38:13 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> On 2/12/2019 11:26 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> >>
>> >> IIRC said she needs a fridge 64 inches tall, which is shorter
>> >> than me. I'd have the gardener remove the cupboard and get a
>> >> bigger fridge (when the old one dies, of course).
>> >>
>> >> Cindy Hamilton
>> >
>> > I have a cabinet up there too, I hadn't considered a larger cabinet
>> > over the fridge. Those cabinets (IMO) are largely spaces for stuff
>> > you don't want to see again.
>> >
>>
>> I mentioned I took the bottom out of the cabinet in the old house. The
>> stuff that was in it had been there for year. It went directly to the
>> donation box. There is a nice cabinet over the fridge here. Empty, but
>> I may stiff a couple of things in there to hide forever. Impractical to
>> get to.
>
>Places like that are good to store rarely used things.

Upper cabinets become quite usable if one has a proper ladder, that's
the sole reason why just last week I ordered this, sure beats standing
on a chair or dragging the 6' wooden ladder in from the garage each
time... this hides behind my office door... extremely stable:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0043X1JBY...0043X1JBY&th=1
We have deep cabinets over the stove and over the fridge. The cabinet
over the fridge is where I store a ton of plastic freezer containers,
just neatened them up and tossed a bunch I never use... cabinet over
the stove holds paper goods; coffee filters, napkins, paper towels,
and lots of disposable picnic stuff.
That handy dandy ladder has already convinced me to change smoke alarm
batteries that were due months ago.... next new flourescent tubes in
the kitchen fixture, one of the four is already out.

writes:
>On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 10:41:47 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> The only reason I got the second side by side is that due to the design of
>> my kitchen, nothing else will fit. Well that's not quite true. I could get a
>> very small as in apartment sized top freezer model but it would leave a lot
>> of space on either side and would be too small for my needs.
>>
>If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18, 20, 22
>inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest occupies.

you mean 18, 20, 22 cu. ft.

writes:
>On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 11:26:11 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:

>> I have a cabinet up there too, I hadn't considered a larger cabinet
>> over the fridge. Those cabinets (IMO) are largely spaces for stuff
>> you don't want to see again.
>
>Agreed. IIRC my in-laws kept the "good" flatware up there,
>so it was only used on Thanksgiving (and they had 5 sons to
>retrieve it).
>
>Still, it's very odd to have such a large cabinet over the
>fridge. Then again, we know Julie has a very odd house.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I know first hand after house shopping in this town that there are
plenty of odd houses, tiny garages, etc. But there's nothing special
about our snow.

On 2/12/2019 11:18 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 06:17:26 -0500, Nancy Young >
> wrote:

>> When it came time to replace it, we got one as big as would fit, the
>> way it was meant to be. On delivery day, Ron was measuring, he knew
>> something was off. Well, the countertop on one side stuck out. Seems
>> so obvious. Of course the truck is pulling in the driveway.

> we sawed off the 2 inch overhang on the adjacent counter so that we
> could get a wider fridge. Refrigerators now come deeper than they
> used so more space that way as well.

It seemed fine until you get the newer refrigerator. I blame the
cabinet guy who left the space for the future larger one but then
measured the countertop an inch too wide.

nancy

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No bigger. Not
> big enough. I know how to measure.

But you don't know how to adapt. You live alone, a small
apartment size would work well for you if you weren't so damn
picky.

On 2019-02-12 1:45 p.m., Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No bigger. Not
>> big enough. I know how to measure.
>
> But you don't know how to adapt. You live alone, a small
> apartment size would work well for you if you weren't so damn
> picky.
>

We have a large fridge considering that there is just the two of us. We
need the room because there are lots of things we like that we store in
there. I can't imagine there would be any reason for Julie to need a
large fridge because there isn't much that she likes.

On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 12:08:52 AM UTC-6, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>
> In article >,
> "> wrote:
>
> > On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 10:10:42 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>
> > > Hey Jo-Jo, tell us about YOUR husband.
>
> > I killed him, chopped him up, cooked him, and then fed him to the hogs.
> > Anymore
> > questions? I also cleaned out his bank account, sold his prized pickup truck,
> > and got a nice settlement from his life insurance policy.
>
> Yawn. It's the repetitive old story that starts with, "A married guy
> gets a life insurance policy..." The end result is inevitable. How
> does Bruce not know this? ;-)
>
> leo
>
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA, he is a bit slow on the uptake, isn't he?

On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 12:23:45 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> "> wrote:
> >
> >> On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 10:10:42 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> >
> >> > Hey Jo-Jo, tell us about YOUR husband.
> >
> >> I killed him, chopped him up, cooked him, and then fed him to the hogs.
> >> Anymore
> >> questions? I also cleaned out his bank account, sold his prized pickup truck,
> >> and got a nice settlement from his life insurance policy.
> >
> The hogs would have eaten him uncooked as well, so she made it up.
>
No, no, no. I have gourmand hogs.

On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 10:19:53 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> She probably has a cupboard over the fridge. My previous house
> had that, and my husband had to trim it a little the day the
> fridge was delivered.
>
> IIRC said she needs a fridge 64 inches tall, which is shorter
> than me. I'd have the gardener remove the cupboard and get a
> bigger fridge (when the old one dies, of course).
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Stop! Stop! You're using common sense and muddying up the waters, how dare
you?!?

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:30:42 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 12:08:52 AM UTC-6, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>
>> In article >,
>> "> wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 10:10:42 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> > > Hey Jo-Jo, tell us about YOUR husband.
>>
>> > I killed him, chopped him up, cooked him, and then fed him to the hogs.
>> > Anymore
>> > questions? I also cleaned out his bank account, sold his prized pickup truck,
>> > and got a nice settlement from his life insurance policy.
>>
>> Yawn. It's the repetitive old story that starts with, "A married guy
>> gets a life insurance policy..." The end result is inevitable. How
>> does Bruce not know this? ;-)
>>
>> leo
>>
>HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA, he is a bit slow on the uptake, isn't he?

I actually hear these stories more often the other way around, where
the husband's the evil doer. Lucretia will agree.

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:38:59 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 10:19:53 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> She probably has a cupboard over the fridge. My previous house
>> had that, and my husband had to trim it a little the day the
>> fridge was delivered.
>>
>> IIRC said she needs a fridge 64 inches tall, which is shorter
>> than me. I'd have the gardener remove the cupboard and get a
>> bigger fridge (when the old one dies, of course).
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>Stop! Stop! You're using common sense and muddying up the waters, how dare
>you?!?

I believe you can pick up a 64 inch fridge on Amazon. Maybe that's
where she got it?

On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 12:25:56 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>
> Upper cabinets become quite usable if one has a proper ladder, that's
> the sole reason why just last week I ordered this, sure beats standing
> on a chair or dragging the 6' wooden ladder in from the garage each
> time... this hides behind my office door... extremely stable:
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0043X1JBY...0043X1JBY&th=1
>
I ordered this one back in late Fall from Home Depot. Free shipping to the
store and I like it that it is all metal with wide steps and a tool tray.

https://i.postimg.cc/y8dfDtzT/Buffalo-Tools-Ladder.jpg
>
> That handy dandy ladder has already convinced me to change smoke alarm
> batteries that were due months ago.
>
Have you looked at the lithium battery powered smoke detectors? They're
guaranteed for 10 years with no battery replacement to contend with.

U.S. Janet B. wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:24:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On 2019-02-11 6:01 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
> > > >
> >>> > wrote in message
> > >
> >>>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a
> standard 18, >>>> 20, 22
> >>>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest
> >>>> occupies.
> > > >
> >>> No. They are too tall.
> > >
> >> Really? You know.. they come in different sizes. Oh yeah... we
> have to >> reject every suggestion.
> >
> > Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No
> > bigger. Not big enough. I know how to measure.
>
> so, your house doesn't have regulation ceilings?

Julie posted a picture once and it's a box like area that can't be
expanded or taller with much ease. Like me, she has cabinets built
above it that don't allow for a taller unit and width issues that do
not allow for much wider.

I have the tall restrictions but can go as wide as I want here if
willing to rearrange the rest of the kitchen. I'd have to measure for
exact but I am about 64 inches top height max. She mentioned it about 3
years ago and I recall looking up units that fit the space. There were
not many choices at all that fit her space limits.

Carol

wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 12:25:56 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> Upper cabinets become quite usable if one has a proper ladder, that's
>> the sole reason why just last week I ordered this, sure beats standing
>> on a chair or dragging the 6' wooden ladder in from the garage each
>> time... this hides behind my office door... extremely stable:
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0043X1JBY...0043X1JBY&th=1
>>
> I ordered this one back in late Fall from Home Depot. Free shipping to the
> store and I like it that it is all metal with wide steps and a tool tray.
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/y8dfDtzT/Buffalo-Tools-Ladder.jpg
>>
>> That handy dandy ladder has already convinced me to change smoke alarm
>> batteries that were due months ago.
>>
> Have you looked at the lithium battery powered smoke detectors? They're
> guaranteed for 10 years with no battery replacement to contend with.
>

Yoose must be crazy if yoose think yoose stuff is better than Popeye's
stuff!

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:24:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 2019-02-11 6:01 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>
>>>>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18,
>>>>> 20, 22
>>>>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest
>>>>> occupies.
>>>>
>>>> No. They are too tall.
>>>
>>> Really? You know.. they come in different sizes. Oh yeah... we have
>>> to
>>> reject every suggestion.
>>
>>Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No bigger.
>>Not
>>big enough. I know how to measure.
>
> so, your house doesn't have regulation ceilings?

I have no clue what regulation ceilings are but what would the ceiling have
to do with it? The ceiling in the kitchen is weird. Part of it is very high
and it goes at different angles. The lowest part is where the fridge is. But
as I said... The cabinets go at the sides of the fridge and over the top.
That's the problem.

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 08:19:50 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>>On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 11:12:05 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:24:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> >> On 2019-02-11 6:01 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > wrote in message
>>> >>
>>> >>>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard
>>> >>>> 18,
>>> >>>> 20, 22
>>> >>>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest
>>> >>>> occupies.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> No. They are too tall.
>>> >>
>>> >> Really? You know.. they come in different sizes. Oh yeah... we
>>> >> have to
>>> >> reject every suggestion.
>>> >
>>> >Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No bigger.
>>> >Not
>>> >big enough. I know how to measure.
>>>
>>> so, your house doesn't have regulation ceilings?
>>
>>She probably has a cupboard over the fridge. My previous house
>>had that, and my husband had to trim it a little the day the
>>fridge was delivered.
>>
>>IIRC said she needs a fridge 64 inches tall, which is shorter
>>than me. I'd have the gardener remove the cupboard and get a
>>bigger fridge (when the old one dies, of course).
>>
>>Cindy Hamilton
>
> I have a cabinet up there too, I hadn't considered a larger cabinet
> over the fridge. Those cabinets (IMO) are largely spaces for stuff
> you don't want to see again.

Agree. I used to keep my cake decorating stuff, candy molds and cookie
press. Now just the cookie press.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> On 2/12/2019 11:26 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> >>
>> >> IIRC said she needs a fridge 64 inches tall, which is shorter
>> >> than me. I'd have the gardener remove the cupboard and get a
>> >> bigger fridge (when the old one dies, of course).
>> >>
>> >> Cindy Hamilton
>> >
>> > I have a cabinet up there too, I hadn't considered a larger cabinet
>> > over the fridge. Those cabinets (IMO) are largely spaces for stuff
>> > you don't want to see again.
>> >
>>
>> I mentioned I took the bottom out of the cabinet in the old house. The
>> stuff that was in it had been there for year. It went directly to the
>> donation box. There is a nice cabinet over the fridge here. Empty, but
>> I may stiff a couple of things in there to hide forever. Impractical to
>> get to.
>
> Places like that are good to store rarely used things.

Not if you play hell getting up there!

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2019-02-12 11:19 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 11:12:05 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:24:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 2019-02-11 6:01 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard
>>>>>>> 18,
>>>>>>> 20, 22
>>>>>>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest
>>>>>>> occupies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. They are too tall.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? You know.. they come in different sizes. Oh yeah... we have
>>>>> to
>>>>> reject every suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No bigger.
>>>> Not
>>>> big enough. I know how to measure.
>>>
>>> so, your house doesn't have regulation ceilings?
>>
>> She probably has a cupboard over the fridge. My previous house
>> had that, and my husband had to trim it a little the day the
>> fridge was delivered.
>>
>> IIRC said she needs a fridge 64 inches tall, which is shorter
>> than me. I'd have the gardener remove the cupboard and get a
>> bigger fridge (when the old one dies, of course).
>>
>
> Or.... go out shopping in a proper appliance store and find one that will
> fit. How large a fridge does a single woman need?

I don't know who posted above but as I said... The cabinet can't be moved.
It's built in to the cabinets on either side.

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 11:40:24 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>>On 2019-02-12 11:19 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 11:12:05 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:24:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 2019-02-11 6:01 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard
>>>>>>>> 18,
>>>>>>>> 20, 22
>>>>>>>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest
>>>>>>>> occupies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No. They are too tall.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really? You know.. they come in different sizes. Oh yeah... we
>>>>>> have to
>>>>>> reject every suggestion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No
>>>>> bigger. Not
>>>>> big enough. I know how to measure.
>>>>
>>>> so, your house doesn't have regulation ceilings?
>>>
>>> She probably has a cupboard over the fridge. My previous house
>>> had that, and my husband had to trim it a little the day the
>>> fridge was delivered.
>>>
>>> IIRC said she needs a fridge 64 inches tall, which is shorter
>>> than me. I'd have the gardener remove the cupboard and get a
>>> bigger fridge (when the old one dies, of course).
>>>
>>
>>Or.... go out shopping in a proper appliance store and find one that
>>will fit. How large a fridge does a single woman need?
>
> with a computer you can find almost anything that you want. I would
> think that large stores around Seattle with Internet presence would
> have the ability to order in and deliver whatever.

Not when you need a certain color, size and other parameters. I wanted one
to match the stove. The color is biscuit. I did not want an ice mater or
water dispenser. I also didn't want to spend a fortune.

> wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 10:19:53 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> She probably has a cupboard over the fridge. My previous house
>> had that, and my husband had to trim it a little the day the
>> fridge was delivered.
>>
>> IIRC said she needs a fridge 64 inches tall, which is shorter
>> than me. I'd have the gardener remove the cupboard and get a
>> bigger fridge (when the old one dies, of course).
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
> Stop! Stop! You're using common sense and muddying up the waters, how
> dare
> you?!?

You all keep reacting without reading my post. I have cabinets that are all
attached. There are cabinets on either side. It would look terrible to try
to cut one part away and it might affect the stability of the others. Plus
I'm not buying a fridge.

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
news
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:38:59 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
>>On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 10:19:53 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> She probably has a cupboard over the fridge. My previous house
>>> had that, and my husband had to trim it a little the day the
>>> fridge was delivered.
>>>
>>> IIRC said she needs a fridge 64 inches tall, which is shorter
>>> than me. I'd have the gardener remove the cupboard and get a
>>> bigger fridge (when the old one dies, of course).
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>Stop! Stop! You're using common sense and muddying up the waters, how
>>dare
>>you?!?
>
> I believe you can pick up a 64 inch fridge on Amazon. Maybe that's
> where she got it?

No. I got it at Lowe's.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:24:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> On 2019-02-11 6:01 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>> > > >
>> >>> > wrote in message
>> > >
>> >>>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a
>> standard 18, >>>> 20, 22
>> >>>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest
>> >>>> occupies.
>> > > >
>> >>> No. They are too tall.
>> > >
>> >> Really? You know.. they come in different sizes. Oh yeah... we
>> have to >> reject every suggestion.
>> >
>> > Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No
>> > bigger. Not big enough. I know how to measure.
>>
>> so, your house doesn't have regulation ceilings?
>
> Julie posted a picture once and it's a box like area that can't be
> expanded or taller with much ease. Like me, she has cabinets built
> above it that don't allow for a taller unit and width issues that do
> not allow for much wider.
>
> I have the tall restrictions but can go as wide as I want here if
> willing to rearrange the rest of the kitchen. I'd have to measure for
> exact but I am about 64 inches top height max. She mentioned it about 3
> years ago and I recall looking up units that fit the space. There were
> not many choices at all that fit her space limits.
>
> Carol

Thank you!!!

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No bigger.
>> Not
>> big enough. I know how to measure.
>
> But you don't know how to adapt. You live alone, a small
> apartment size would work well for you if you weren't so damn
> picky.

No it would not. I don't like alone. My gardener and his GF both live here.
And when I bought this fridge, my then husband and daughter were here.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2019-02-12 1:45 p.m., Gary wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No bigger.
>>> Not
>>> big enough. I know how to measure.
>>
>> But you don't know how to adapt. You live alone, a small
>> apartment size would work well for you if you weren't so damn
>> picky.
>>
>
> We have a large fridge considering that there is just the two of us. We
> need the room because there are lots of things we like that we store in
> there. I can't imagine there would be any reason for Julie to need a
> large fridge because there isn't much that she likes.

I like fresh veggies. I also like a variety of cheese and keep other things
that need to be refrigerated. Chia seeds, flax seeds, wheat germ. Insulin...
I get 90 days worth and I use very high doses.

"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
> writes:
>>On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 10:41:47 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> The only reason I got the second side by side is that due to the design
>>> of
>>> my kitchen, nothing else will fit. Well that's not quite true. I could
>>> get a
>>> very small as in apartment sized top freezer model but it would leave a
>>> lot
>>> of space on either side and would be too small for my needs.
>>>
>>If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18, 20,
>>22
>>inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest occupies.
>
> you mean 18, 20, 22 cu. ft.

Good catch!