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On 21:40 10 Feb 2019, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 20:45:57 GMT, Pamela
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Many people enjoy a BBQ but, in my experience, they are fooling
themselves if they think they're getting better tasting food.

Maybe the event, the commotion, the smoke, the inevitable alcohol, the
socialising, perhaps a pool, the outdoors air, etc takes their mind off
the sometimes indifferent, and perhaps not well cooked, food.

I have had some good BBQs but the taste of the same food would very
often be better, in absolute terms, cooked in a kitchen.


Perhaps you've only had mediocre foods. If you try a nicely cooked
Spatchcocked chicken or a rib eye on the rotisseries or brisket from
the smoker you may see some foods can be better.

Even a natural casing hot dog is better off the grill than anything
you can do in the house.

Again, many other things are just personal preference. You can make
excellent corn on the cob in the microwave, but the corn off the grill
is very different. You may prefer one over the other.


I have had some good BBQ food but it is not as common as I would like.
Usually there is either undercooked or burnt meat arriving in an ad-hoc way.
Side dishes are chosen as an expediency rather than matched to the grill
meat. Quantities are variable and actual cooking quality is hit and miss.

It's all jolly knockabout stuff, especially if you have a liking for camping,
and it can be a great fun event -- but not for its high class cuisine.

All this would be okay except for those BBQ enthusiasts, who have bought all
the fancy equipment and comandeer the event, who genuinely and sincerely
assure you its the best food you will ever taste. Ha!

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Pamela wrote:
On 21:40 10 Feb 2019, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 20:45:57 GMT, Pamela
wrote:



Many people enjoy a BBQ but, in my experience, they are fooling
themselves if they think they're getting better tasting food.

Maybe the event, the commotion, the smoke, the inevitable alcohol, the
socialising, perhaps a pool, the outdoors air, etc takes their mind off
the sometimes indifferent, and perhaps not well cooked, food.

I have had some good BBQs but the taste of the same food would very
often be better, in absolute terms, cooked in a kitchen.


Perhaps you've only had mediocre foods. If you try a nicely cooked
Spatchcocked chicken or a rib eye on the rotisseries or brisket from
the smoker you may see some foods can be better.

Even a natural casing hot dog is better off the grill than anything
you can do in the house.

Again, many other things are just personal preference. You can make
excellent corn on the cob in the microwave, but the corn off the grill
is very different. You may prefer one over the other.


I have had some good BBQ food but it is not as common as I would like.
Usually there is either undercooked or burnt meat arriving in an ad-hoc way.
Side dishes are chosen as an expediency rather than matched to the grill
meat. Quantities are variable and actual cooking quality is hit and miss.

It's all jolly knockabout stuff, especially if you have a liking for camping,
and it can be a great fun event -- but not for its high class cuisine.

All this would be okay except for those BBQ enthusiasts, who have bought all
the fancy equipment and comandeer the event, who genuinely and sincerely
assure you its the best food you will ever taste. Ha!


You're right about the side dishes ... often crap like canned pork and
beans, sometimes potato salad, and don't forget the disgusting gummy
white buns or rolls.

I guess the meat and beer is supposed to be the main attraction.
Sometimes I get lucky when someone makes some really good potato salad.

One thing you forgot; in addition to undercooked stuff, there is also
the occasional tough or stringy meat, usually but not always caused by
bargain meat.

Even so, it can still be fun if you enjoy the company. Not every meal
needs to be the King's vittles.




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On 22:39 10 Feb 2019, Hank Rogers wrote:

Pamela wrote:
On 21:40 10 Feb 2019, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 20:45:57 GMT, Pamela
wrote:



Many people enjoy a BBQ but, in my experience, they are fooling
themselves if they think they're getting better tasting food.

Maybe the event, the commotion, the smoke, the inevitable alcohol,
the socialising, perhaps a pool, the outdoors air, etc takes their
mind off the sometimes indifferent, and perhaps not well cooked,
food.

I have had some good BBQs but the taste of the same food would very
often be better, in absolute terms, cooked in a kitchen.

Perhaps you've only had mediocre foods. If you try a nicely cooked
Spatchcocked chicken or a rib eye on the rotisseries or brisket from
the smoker you may see some foods can be better.

Even a natural casing hot dog is better off the grill than anything
you can do in the house.

Again, many other things are just personal preference. You can make
excellent corn on the cob in the microwave, but the corn off the grill
is very different. You may prefer one over the other.


I have had some good BBQ food but it is not as common as I would like.
Usually there is either undercooked or burnt meat arriving in an ad-hoc
way. Side dishes are chosen as an expediency rather than matched to the
grill meat. Quantities are variable and actual cooking quality is hit
and miss.

It's all jolly knockabout stuff, especially if you have a liking for
camping, and it can be a great fun event -- but not for its high class
cuisine.

All this would be okay except for those BBQ enthusiasts, who have
bought all the fancy equipment and comandeer the event, who genuinely
and sincerely assure you its the best food you will ever taste. Ha!


You're right about the side dishes ... often crap like canned pork and
beans, sometimes potato salad, and don't forget the disgusting gummy
white buns or rolls.

I guess the meat and beer is supposed to be the main attraction.
Sometimes I get lucky when someone makes some really good potato salad.

One thing you forgot; in addition to undercooked stuff, there is also
the occasional tough or stringy meat, usually but not always caused by
bargain meat.

Even so, it can still be fun if you enjoy the company. Not every meal
needs to be the King's vittles.


You're right. I should say I'm taking about an urban family BBQ. Other
setups like BBQ restaurants or BBQs on a farm are something else.
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 20:45:57 GMT, Pamela
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On 19:10 10 Feb 2019, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/10/2019 12:18 PM, Pamela wrote:


I agree. A barbeque can be fun but it rarely produces better food than
cooked indoors.


Better is just opinion. Both can produce excellent food and they are
different.


Many people enjoy a BBQ but, in my experience, they are fooling themselves
if they think they're getting better tasting food.

Maybe the event, the commotion, the smoke, the inevitable alcohol, the
socialising, perhaps a pool, the outdoors air, etc takes their mind off
the sometimes indifferent, and perhaps not well cooked, food.

I have had some good BBQs but the taste of the same food would very often be
better, in absolute terms, cooked in a kitchen.

No one would say the actual food at a picnic is better than at a dining
table but the event and its setting probably compensates. Same for a BBQ.


I must agree. Most who host outdoor BBQs turn out crap... no better
than an upstate NY churchy FEED. Most times the main event is cheap
bologna sandwiches on white bread with yallow mustard.
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On 2/10/2019 7:21 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 20:45:57 GMT, Pamela
wrote:

On 19:10 10 Feb 2019, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/10/2019 12:18 PM, Pamela wrote:


I agree. A barbeque can be fun but it rarely produces better food than
cooked indoors.


Better is just opinion. Both can produce excellent food and they are
different.


Many people enjoy a BBQ but, in my experience, they are fooling themselves
if they think they're getting better tasting food.

Maybe the event, the commotion, the smoke, the inevitable alcohol, the
socialising, perhaps a pool, the outdoors air, etc takes their mind off
the sometimes indifferent, and perhaps not well cooked, food.

I have had some good BBQs but the taste of the same food would very often be
better, in absolute terms, cooked in a kitchen.

No one would say the actual food at a picnic is better than at a dining
table but the event and its setting probably compensates. Same for a BBQ.


I must agree. Most who host outdoor BBQs turn out crap... no better
than an upstate NY churchy FEED. Most times the main event is cheap
bologna sandwiches on white bread with yallow mustard.

While I agree with that, we are talking apples and oranges here. Yes,
the typical backyard bbq, company picnic, church picnic is about volume
and a social event that happens to have food.

The other end is the able cook that uses an outdoor grill to turn out
some really good food. Usually is is just a family meal or a couple of
guests, not a big feed. The grill is another cooking tool with some
differences to the typical range in the kitchen.
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People wanting to deep fry a whole turkey are urged to do it outside, away from any wood
decking or house overhangs. Lots of garages have been set on fire.

N.
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On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 3:56:53 AM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
People wanting to deep fry a whole turkey are urged to do it outside, away from any wood
decking or house overhangs. Lots of garages have been set on fire.

N.


In America, turkey cooks your goose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIDMXI2c9yQ
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The secret I posted here years ago and several times but no one
believed... rotisserie chicken is Russion Roulette... most times it's
fine but one never knows... even we buy one 'bout once a year. But
most times we buy an Oven Roaster when they are 80-90 Per LB, a much
better deal than those scrawny $5 twirly birds that are old as the
hills but saved with excessive salting:
https://www.tasteofhome.com/article/...serie-chicken/


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