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On 2/10/2019 7:21 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 20:45:57 GMT, Pamela
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On 19:10 10 Feb 2019, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/10/2019 12:18 PM, Pamela wrote:


I agree. A barbeque can be fun but it rarely produces better food than
cooked indoors.


Better is just opinion. Both can produce excellent food and they are
different.


Many people enjoy a BBQ but, in my experience, they are fooling themselves
if they think they're getting better tasting food.

Maybe the event, the commotion, the smoke, the inevitable alcohol, the
socialising, perhaps a pool, the outdoors air, etc takes their mind off
the sometimes indifferent, and perhaps not well cooked, food.

I have had some good BBQs but the taste of the same food would very often be
better, in absolute terms, cooked in a kitchen.

No one would say the actual food at a picnic is better than at a dining
table but the event and its setting probably compensates. Same for a BBQ.


I must agree. Most who host outdoor BBQs turn out crap... no better
than an upstate NY churchy FEED. Most times the main event is cheap
bologna sandwiches on white bread with yallow mustard.

While I agree with that, we are talking apples and oranges here. Yes,
the typical backyard bbq, company picnic, church picnic is about volume
and a social event that happens to have food.

The other end is the able cook that uses an outdoor grill to turn out
some really good food. Usually is is just a family meal or a couple of
guests, not a big feed. The grill is another cooking tool with some
differences to the typical range in the kitchen.

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People wanting to deep fry a whole turkey are urged to do it outside, away from any wood
decking or house overhangs. Lots of garages have been set on fire.

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On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 3:56:53 AM UTC-10, Nancy2 wrote:
People wanting to deep fry a whole turkey are urged to do it outside, away from any wood
decking or house overhangs. Lots of garages have been set on fire.

N.


In America, turkey cooks your goose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIDMXI2c9yQ
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The secret I posted here years ago and several times but no one
believed... rotisserie chicken is Russion Roulette... most times it's
fine but one never knows... even we buy one 'bout once a year. But
most times we buy an Oven Roaster when they are 80Ę-90Ę Per LB, a much
better deal than those scrawny $5 twirly birds that are old as the
hills but saved with excessive salting:
https://www.tasteofhome.com/article/...serie-chicken/
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On 2/10/2019 4:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2019-02-10 3:45 p.m., Pamela wrote:
On 19:10¬* 10 Feb 2019, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/10/2019 12:18 PM, Pamela wrote:


I agree.¬* A barbeque can be fun but it rarely produces better food than
cooked indoors.


Better is just opinion.¬* Both can produce excellent food and they are
different.


Many people enjoy a BBQ but, in my experience, they are fooling
themselves
if they think they're getting better tasting food.


Really?? They are fooling themselves if the think the food is better?
That's one of the dumbest things you have said here.


It really depends on the food you're cooking on the grill (BBQ). Some
things really benefit from outdoor cooking. But no, I'm not going to
cook outdoors year round.

Jill


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On 2/10/2019 4:40 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
gain, many other things are just personal preference. You can make
excellent corn on the cob in the microwave, but the corn off the grill
is very different. You may prefer one over the other.


I love, love, love grilled corn on the cob! In the husk. Peel the
husks back to remove the silk. Put the husks back in place and soak the
ears in a bucket of fresh cold salted water, so the husks won't burn.
Shake them to get rid of excess water. Grill the corn over indirect
coals, turning frequently, so the husks dry out. Don't worry if they
get a bit charred! After about 25-35 minutes the corn is perfectly
cooked. It tastes so much better than from microwaved or boiled corn on
the cob. Brush with some lightly herbed butter. Delicious!

Another thing to do with grilled corn. Ditto peeling back the husk and
removing the silk. Then soaking. But before grilling, brush the cob
with butter or olive oil. Lay some stalks of of fresh herbs along the
cob before putting the husk back in place. Fresh basil, sprigs of
marjoram or thyme, things like that. Turn the corn frequently, same as
above.

While the corn is cooking, you can also grill whatever else you'd like,
be it a couple of steaks, or some other veggies alongside.

Jill
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 19:58:19 -0500, jmcquown
wrote:

On 2/10/2019 4:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2019-02-10 3:45 p.m., Pamela wrote:
On 19:10* 10 Feb 2019, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/10/2019 12:18 PM, Pamela wrote:


I agree.* A barbeque can be fun but it rarely produces better food than
cooked indoors.


Better is just opinion.* Both can produce excellent food and they are
different.

Many people enjoy a BBQ but, in my experience, they are fooling
themselves
if they think they're getting better tasting food.


Really?? They are fooling themselves if the think the food is better?
That's one of the dumbest things you have said here.


It really depends on the food you're cooking on the grill (BBQ). Some
things really benefit from outdoor cooking. But no, I'm not going to
cook outdoors year round.

Jill


For me it really depends on cooking for how many, cooking for just the
two of us it's much easier to cook indoors, but when we have company
and weather permitting it's easier and quicker to cook most meals on
an outdoor grill. Of course it also depends on what's for dinner,
stews, soups, and pasta cook easier indoors. Steaks burgers and chops
cook easier outdoors. In summer veggies from the garden cook a lot
easier on the grill... we love grilled slabs of eggplant and zukes.
This spring I promise to set up the new Weber. However we don't have
much company anymore, most old friends are gone. This week the three
grands will be visiting, last of the skiing. They're teens now and
they love to eat.
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On 2019-02-17 8:34 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
On 2/10/2019 4:40 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
gain, many other things are just¬* personal preference.¬* You can make
excellent corn on the cob in the microwave, but the corn off the grill
is very different.¬* You may prefer one over the other.


I love, love, love grilled corn on the cob!¬* In the husk.¬* Peel the
husks back to remove the silk.¬* Put the husks back in place and soak the
ears in a bucket of fresh cold salted water, so the husks won't burn.
Shake them to get rid of excess water.¬* Grill the corn over indirect
coals, turning frequently, so the husks dry out.¬* Don't worry if they
get a bit charred!¬* After about 25-35 minutes the corn is perfectly
cooked.¬* It tastes so much better than from microwaved or boiled corn on
the cob.¬* Brush with some lightly herbed butter.¬* Delicious!

Another thing to do with grilled corn.¬* Ditto peeling back the husk and
removing the silk.¬* Then soaking.¬* But before grilling, brush the cob
with butter or olive oil.¬* Lay some stalks of of fresh herbs along the
cob before putting the husk back in place.¬* Fresh basil, sprigs of
marjoram or thyme, things like that.¬* Turn the corn frequently, same as
above.

While the corn is cooking, you can also grill whatever else you'd like,
be it a couple of steaks, or some other veggies alongside.



I don't bother peeling off the silk before grilling. If it is really
freshly picked I don't ever bother soaking it. Just turn it frequently
until the husk is charred. Thanks to a suggestion here I started
eating it with lime juice and chili powder.

Jill


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On 2/17/2019 7:58 PM, jmcquown wrote:
On 2/10/2019 4:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2019-02-10 3:45 p.m., Pamela wrote:
On 19:10¬* 10 Feb 2019, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/10/2019 12:18 PM, Pamela wrote:


I agree.¬* A barbeque can be fun but it rarely produces better food
than
cooked indoors.


Better is just opinion.¬* Both can produce excellent food and they are
different.

Many people enjoy a BBQ but, in my experience, they are fooling
themselves
if they think they're getting better tasting food.


Really?? They are fooling themselves if the think the food is better?
That's one of the dumbest things you have said here.


It really depends on the food you're cooking on the grill (BBQ).¬* Some
things really benefit from outdoor cooking.¬* But no, I'm not going to
cook outdoors year round.

Jill


Yes, indoors or outdoors does not matter. It is the cooking method that
makes a difference. Some foods benefit from the open flame. I can
make burgers in a pan, but they are better on a grill same with hot
dogs. I made some natural casing dogs the other day. Only thing that
comes close is those cookers that roll the dogs while cooking them. Fry
pans are not the same.
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 23:08:25 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/17/2019 7:58 PM, jmcquown wrote:
On 2/10/2019 4:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2019-02-10 3:45 p.m., Pamela wrote:
On 19:10* 10 Feb 2019, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/10/2019 12:18 PM, Pamela wrote:


I agree.* A barbeque can be fun but it rarely produces better food
than
cooked indoors.


Better is just opinion.* Both can produce excellent food and they are
different.

Many people enjoy a BBQ but, in my experience, they are fooling
themselves
if they think they're getting better tasting food.

Really?? They are fooling themselves if the think the food is better?
That's one of the dumbest things you have said here.


It really depends on the food you're cooking on the grill (BBQ).* Some
things really benefit from outdoor cooking.* But no, I'm not going to
cook outdoors year round.

Jill


Yes, indoors or outdoors does not matter. It is the cooking method that
makes a difference. Some foods benefit from the open flame. I can
make burgers in a pan, but they are better on a grill same with hot
dogs. I made some natural casing dogs the other day. Only thing that
comes close is those cookers that roll the dogs while cooking them. Fry
pans are not the same.


I prefer steaks, chops, and burger cooked in a skillet... and I much
prefer tube steaks simmered, gets rid of much of the salts and red
dye... and can still griddle them some. But what I really like
grilled outdoors are veggies, thick slabs of eggplant, zukes, onions,
peppers, tomatoes, spuds, butternut squash, etc. When the garden is
producing is a good time to light off the grill and then may as well
cook the entre meal outdoors... however I really don't enjoy eating
outdoors, in summer it's too hot and buggy so I bring the food inside
and enjoy the A/C and bug free.


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On 2/18/2019 11:26 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 22:50:43 -0500, Dave Smith
wrote:

On 2019-02-17 8:34 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
On 2/10/2019 4:40 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
gain, many other things are just¬* personal preference.¬* You can make
excellent corn on the cob in the microwave, but the corn off the grill
is very different.¬* You may prefer one over the other.

I love, love, love grilled corn on the cob!¬* In the husk.¬* Peel the
husks back to remove the silk.¬* Put the husks back in place and soak the
ears in a bucket of fresh cold salted water, so the husks won't burn.
Shake them to get rid of excess water.¬* Grill the corn over indirect
coals, turning frequently, so the husks dry out.¬* Don't worry if they
get a bit charred!¬* After about 25-35 minutes the corn is perfectly
cooked.¬* It tastes so much better than from microwaved or boiled corn on
the cob.¬* Brush with some lightly herbed butter.¬* Delicious!

Another thing to do with grilled corn.¬* Ditto peeling back the husk and
removing the silk.¬* Then soaking.¬* But before grilling, brush the cob
with butter or olive oil.¬* Lay some stalks of of fresh herbs along the
cob before putting the husk back in place.¬* Fresh basil, sprigs of
marjoram or thyme, things like that.


With all those herbs you probably don't appreciate the flavor of
freshly picked corn.... I only use a smidge of butter, no s n'p
either. Actually I prefer microwaved corn, with grilled the char
ruins the fresh corn flavor.

I've *never* had freshly picked corn. I didn't grow up on a farm. I
buy corn at the local farm stands or the grocery store. It may have
been picked near here, sure, but I didn't take it from field to table.

While the corn is cooking, you can also grill whatever else you'd like,
be it a couple of steaks, or some other veggies alongside.


I don't bother peeling off the silk before grilling. If it is really
freshly picked I don't ever bother soaking it. Just turn it frequently
until the husk is charred. Thanks to a suggestion here I started
eating it with lime juice and chili powder.

Enjoy that. The idea of lime juice and chili powder doesn't appeal to me.
With cooked corn the silks will come right off with the husks.


Sure it does. I'd still remove it first. Just my grilled corn
preference. Just as soaking the corn in the husks first is also a tried
and true method which I prefer.

Jill
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On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 11:23:37 AM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
....
I've *never* had freshly picked corn. I didn't grow up on a farm. I
buy corn at the local farm stands or the grocery store. It may have
been picked near here, sure, but I didn't take it from field to table.

....

I did as a child. A neighbor grew corn in his back yard garden and it was YUM!! So sweet! Naturally, as the sugars like "new" potato had not been converted to starches.

I should plant corn in my front yard garden, maybe?

John Kuthe...
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jmcquown wrote:

I've *never* had freshly picked corn. I didn't grow up on a farm. I
buy corn at the local farm stands or the grocery store. It may have
been picked near here, sure, but I didn't take it from field to table.


Fresh picked is best. From there, the longer you wait to eat it
the quality goes down. Probably true with any vegetables if you
think about it.

I have been in a cornfield a few times and did pick a fresh ear
right off the stalk and eat it. So very good and tasty. No need
to cook it. Just like eating a fresh garden tomato.
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On 2019-02-19 12:20 p.m., Gary wrote:
jmcquown wrote:

I've *never* had freshly picked corn. I didn't grow up on a farm. I
buy corn at the local farm stands or the grocery store. It may have
been picked near here, sure, but I didn't take it from field to table.


Fresh picked is best. From there, the longer you wait to eat it
the quality goes down. Probably true with any vegetables if you
think about it.

I have been in a cornfield a few times and did pick a fresh ear
right off the stalk and eat it. So very good and tasty. No need
to cook it. Just like eating a fresh garden tomato.




Many vegetables are so much better when freshly picked. That is one of
the reasons so many people go to the work to maintain a garden.

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On 2/19/2019 5:04 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2019-02-19 12:20 p.m., Gary wrote:
jmcquown wrote:

I've *never* had freshly picked corn.¬* I didn't grow up on a farm.¬* I
buy corn at the local farm stands or the grocery store.¬* It may have
been picked near here, sure, but I didn't take it from field to table.


Fresh picked is best. From there, the longer you wait to eat it
the quality goes down. Probably true with any vegetables if you
think about it.

I have been in a cornfield a few times and did pick a fresh ear
right off the stalk and eat it. So very good and tasty. No need
to cook it. Just like eating a fresh garden tomato.¬*




Many vegetables are so much better when freshly picked. That is one of
the reasons so many people go to the work to maintain a garden.


I remember going to Styer's Orchards many years ago. There was a bin of
corn from the day before but many of us waited for the tractor to come
back from the field with the fresh picked.


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