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Recently I can't seem to find a kitchen sink stopper that will stay open,
allowing the water to drain. They are hard to set open securely and don't
stay that way. Never had this problem before. Anyone else? Anyone find a
brand that works right? Maybe I just need to use an old-fashioned rubber
stopper when I need to stop the flow and let the food scraps go down the
drain.

Suggestions?

TIA


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On Friday, January 4, 2019 at 12:12:08 PM UTC-6, KenK wrote:
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> Recently I can't seem to find a kitchen sink stopper that will stay open,
> allowing the water to drain. They are hard to set open securely and don't
> stay that way. Never had this problem before. Anyone else? Anyone find a
> brand that works right? Maybe I just need to use an old-fashioned rubber
> stopper when I need to stop the flow and let the food scraps go down the
> drain.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> TIA
>

When I'm pretty sure there might be some bits heading down the drain pipe,
I just slightly lift the stopper up and turn it ever so slightly on its'
side. The water is able to drain away while catching any small bits that
don't need to go down the drain. Once the water is gone then I can take
the strainer out and dump the junk in the trash can.

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KenK wrote:
> Recently I can't seem to find a kitchen sink stopper that will stay open,
> allowing the water to drain. They are hard to set open securely and don't
> stay that way. Never had this problem before. Anyone else? Anyone find a
> brand that works right? Maybe I just need to use an old-fashioned rubber
> stopper when I need to stop the flow and let the food scraps go down the
> drain.
>
> Suggestions?


the ones we have are fairly inexpensive stainless
steel that have a spring steel like clip which looks
like <> for the center part so i can pull them up a
little and they'll stay in place but also still drain.

got them with the drain replacements when i redid
the sink. at Home Despot.

if i'm in more of a hurry i can pull them and turn
them upside down which still catches stuff.


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On 1/4/2019 10:12 AM, KenK wrote:
> Recently I can't seem to find a kitchen sink stopper that will stay open,
> allowing the water to drain. They are hard to set open securely and don't
> stay that way. Never had this problem before. Anyone else? Anyone find a
> brand that works right? Maybe I just need to use an old-fashioned rubber
> stopper when I need to stop the flow and let the food scraps go down the
> drain.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> TIA
>
>



I gave up 20 years ago and ripped the guts out and use a rubber sink
stopper. Holds the water and drains like a fire hose.
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KenK wrote:

> Recently I can't seem to find a kitchen sink stopper that will stay
> open, allowing the water to drain. They are hard to set open securely
> and don't stay that way. Never had this problem before. Anyone else?
> Anyone find a brand that works right? Maybe I just need to use an
> old-fashioned rubber stopper when I need to stop the flow and let the
> food scraps go down the drain.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> TIA


Ken, I use strainers in the sink. Simple wire mesh ones you drop in
the dishwasher as needed.


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> Recently I can't seem to find a kitchen sink stopper that will stay open,
> allowing the water to drain. They are hard to set open securely and don't
> stay that way. Never had this problem before. Anyone else? Anyone find a
> brand that works right? Maybe I just need to use an old-fashioned rubber
> stopper when I need to stop the flow and let the food scraps go down the
> drain.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> TIA


Sorry. I never use a stopper.

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On 1/4/2019 1:12 PM, KenK wrote:
> Recently I can't seem to find a kitchen sink stopper that will stay open,
> allowing the water to drain.


What the heck is the point of a stopper that allows water to drain?

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On Saturday, January 5, 2019 at 5:07:04 PM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
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> On 1/4/2019 1:12 PM, KenK wrote:
>
> > Recently I can't seem to find a kitchen sink stopper that will stay open,
> > allowing the water to drain.

>
> What the heck is the point of a stopper that allows water to drain?
>
> Jill
>

I think he's wanting one that will allow the water to drain while catching
any bits of food that didn't hit the trash can.

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On 2019-01-05 6:06 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/4/2019 1:12 PM, KenK wrote:
>> Recently I can't seem to find a kitchen sink stopper that will stay open,
>> allowing the water to drain.

>
> What the heck is the point of a stopper that allows water to drain?


It allows the water to drain and the strainer to catch the bits you
don't want to get down into the pipes where it can cause a clog.
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On Saturday, January 5, 2019 at 3:06:47 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
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> "KenK" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Suggestions?
> >
> > TIA

>
> Sorry. I never use a stopper.
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So why did you answer, Julie Kuthe? You had no suggestion but felt the need
to chime in with more of your helpful advice?



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On 1/5/2019 6:45 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-01-05 6:06 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 1/4/2019 1:12 PM, KenK wrote:
>>> Recently I can't seem to find a kitchen sink stopper that will stay
>>> open,
>>> allowing the water to drain.

>>
>> What the heck is the point of a stopper that allows water to drain?

>
> It allows the water to drain and the strainer to catch the bits you
> don't want to get down into the pipes where it can cause a clog.


I have one that fits over the garbage disposal... but I rarely want it
to trap things that I *don't* want going into the disposal.

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On Saturday, January 5, 2019 at 7:23:51 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 1/5/2019 6:45 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2019-01-05 6:06 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> >> On 1/4/2019 1:12 PM, KenK wrote:
> >>> Recently I can't seem to find a kitchen sink stopper that will stay
> >>> open,
> >>> allowing the water to drain.
> >>
> >> What the heck is the point of a stopper that allows water to drain?

> >
> > It allows the water to drain and the strainer to catch the bits you
> > don't want to get down into the pipes where it can cause a clog.

>
> I have one that fits over the garbage disposal... but I rarely want it
> to trap things that I *don't* want going into the disposal.
>
> Jill


Clearly, KenK doesn't have a garbage disposal.

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On 1/6/2019 6:27 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, January 5, 2019 at 7:23:51 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>> On 1/5/2019 6:45 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2019-01-05 6:06 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 1/4/2019 1:12 PM, KenK wrote:
>>>>> Recently I can't seem to find a kitchen sink stopper that will stay
>>>>> open,
>>>>> allowing the water to drain.
>>>>
>>>> What the heck is the point of a stopper that allows water to drain?
>>>
>>> It allows the water to drain and the strainer to catch the bits you
>>> don't want to get down into the pipes where it can cause a clog.

>>
>> I have one that fits over the garbage disposal... but I rarely want it
>> to trap things that I *don't* want going into the disposal.
>>
>> Jill

>
> Clearly, KenK doesn't have a garbage disposal.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Apparently it wasn't very clear to me, which is why I asked the
question. I have a dual sink and two different stoppers but they both
fit in either drain. One that has a strainer and allows water to drain
but catches the bits and a wide rubber stopper. I couldn't tell him
what brands they are.

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On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 09:53:59 -0500, jmcquown >
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>On 1/6/2019 6:27 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Saturday, January 5, 2019 at 7:23:51 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>> On 1/5/2019 6:45 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2019-01-05 6:06 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 1/4/2019 1:12 PM, KenK wrote:
>>>>>> Recently I can't seem to find a kitchen sink stopper that will stay
>>>>>> open,
>>>>>> allowing the water to drain.
>>>>>
>>>>> What the heck is the point of a stopper that allows water to drain?
>>>>
>>>> It allows the water to drain and the strainer to catch the bits you
>>>> don't want to get down into the pipes where it can cause a clog.
>>>
>>> I have one that fits over the garbage disposal... but I rarely want it
>>> to trap things that I *don't* want going into the disposal.
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> Clearly, KenK doesn't have a garbage disposal.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>

>Apparently it wasn't very clear to me, which is why I asked the
>question. I have a dual sink and two different stoppers but they both
>fit in either drain. One that has a strainer and allows water to drain
>but catches the bits and a wide rubber stopper. I couldn't tell him
>what brands they are.
>
>Jill


Most any hardware store will sell various types/sizes. Kitchen sink
drains usually have piece in the drain with a sloted hole in it so if
the drain strainer is turned 90º it will either raise the basket to
drain or lower the basket to seal. Some drain baskets have a built in
rubber stopper that can be raised to drain or lowered to seal. If he
posted a picture of the inside of his drain I could offer more
information. He also needs to measure the inside diameter of the
drain opening as those baskets come in different diameters. If he
knows the sink brand and model number a plumbing supply store can look
it up and sell him the correct stopper... or contact the sink
manufacturer and they will know what's needed, most times they'll send
a replacement gratis, I know that Koehler will supply parts for free.
to the original purchaser, as will most major suppliers.
The answer to the question is really a no-brainer.
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> On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 09:53:59 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
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>> On 1/6/2019 6:27 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Saturday, January 5, 2019 at 7:23:51 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>> On 1/5/2019 6:45 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2019-01-05 6:06 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/4/2019 1:12 PM, KenK wrote:
>>>>>>> Recently I can't seem to find a kitchen sink stopper that will stay
>>>>>>> open,
>>>>>>> allowing the water to drain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What the heck is the point of a stopper that allows water to drain?
>>>>>
>>>>> It allows the water to drain and the strainer to catch the bits you
>>>>> don't want to get down into the pipes where it can cause a clog.
>>>>
>>>> I have one that fits over the garbage disposal... but I rarely want it
>>>> to trap things that I *don't* want going into the disposal.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Clearly, KenK doesn't have a garbage disposal.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>

>> Apparently it wasn't very clear to me, which is why I asked the
>> question. I have a dual sink and two different stoppers but they both
>> fit in either drain. One that has a strainer and allows water to drain
>> but catches the bits and a wide rubber stopper. I couldn't tell him
>> what brands they are.
>>
>> Jill

>
> The answer to the question is really a no-brainer.
>


And dat's zactly why we needs yoose Popeye!




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My experience over the decades I have lived with a half dozen or so sinks, is that a stainless
adjustable (open or closed) stopper that has small holes or slots in it for water to go through
when it is on an "open" setting, is that so far, they have all been a standard size. All of them.
OTOH, I have always had a double sink, with garbage disposal on one side. I used to buy
new ones at KMart. Now that they have closed, I will go to Ace Hardware. I have never
purchased one that did not fit, although I did mistakenly once purchase one that was only a
stopper, and didn't have the ability to stay open unless I tipped it at a slant in the drain.

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On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 19:40:28 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
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>My experience over the decades I have lived with a half dozen or so sinks, is that a stainless
>adjustable (open or closed) stopper that has small holes or slots in it for water to go through
>when it is on an "open" setting, is that so far, they have all been a standard size. All of them.
>OTOH, I have always had a double sink, with garbage disposal on one side. I used to buy
>new ones at KMart. Now that they have closed, I will go to Ace Hardware. I have never
>purchased one that did not fit, although I did mistakenly once purchase one that was only a
>stopper, and didn't have the ability to stay open unless I tipped it at a slant in the drain.
>
>N.

When I replaced mine I did so at a hardware store and took the old one
which worked extremely well in its day, with me. I matched it almost
exactly and the replacement is doing well.
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On 1/6/2019 10:40 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> My experience over the decades I have lived with a half dozen or so sinks, is that a stainless
> adjustable (open or closed) stopper that has small holes or slots in it for water to go through
> when it is on an "open" setting, is that so far, they have all been a standard size. All of them.
> OTOH, I have always had a double sink, with garbage disposal on one side. I used to buy
> new ones at KMart. Now that they have closed, I will go to Ace Hardware. I have never
> purchased one that did not fit, although I did mistakenly once purchase one that was only a
> stopper, and didn't have the ability to stay open unless I tipped it at a slant in the drain.
>
> N.
>

Veering a bit off topic but still about sink stoppers, last year I had
the pesky pop-up stoppers in my bathroom sinks disconnected and bought
good old fashioned rubber stoppers. I got tired of dealing with
slow/clogged drains in the bathroom sinks. Products like Drain-O and
Liquid Plumr were a waste of money. Despite what online videos show,
the Zip-It drain cleaning tool was hindered by the pop-up mechanism. No
longer a worry. Those little rubber stoppers make things so much
easier! I went to a local hardware store and was surprised by all the
different sizes of bathroom sink stoppers. I needed a 1-1/4" (very
small) stopper.

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On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 9:58:19 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 1/6/2019 10:40 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> > My experience over the decades I have lived with a half dozen or so sinks, is that a stainless
> > adjustable (open or closed) stopper that has small holes or slots in it for water to go through
> > when it is on an "open" setting, is that so far, they have all been a standard size. All of them.
> > OTOH, I have always had a double sink, with garbage disposal on one side. I used to buy
> > new ones at KMart. Now that they have closed, I will go to Ace Hardware. I have never
> > purchased one that did not fit, although I did mistakenly once purchase one that was only a
> > stopper, and didn't have the ability to stay open unless I tipped it at a slant in the drain.
> >
> > N.
> >

> Veering a bit off topic but still about sink stoppers, last year I had
> the pesky pop-up stoppers in my bathroom sinks disconnected and bought
> good old fashioned rubber stoppers. I got tired of dealing with
> slow/clogged drains in the bathroom sinks. Products like Drain-O and
> Liquid Plumr were a waste of money. Despite what online videos show,
> the Zip-It drain cleaning tool was hindered by the pop-up mechanism. No
> longer a worry. Those little rubber stoppers make things so much
> easier! I went to a local hardware store and was surprised by all the
> different sizes of bathroom sink stoppers. I needed a 1-1/4" (very
> small) stopper.
>
> Jill


Except when cleaning the sink, I never use the stopper. Even then, I
close the stopper only to conveniently clean the stopper itself.

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On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 07:04:34 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
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>On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 9:58:19 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>> On 1/6/2019 10:40 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>> > My experience over the decades I have lived with a half dozen or so sinks, is that a stainless
>> > adjustable (open or closed) stopper that has small holes or slots in it for water to go through
>> > when it is on an "open" setting, is that so far, they have all been a standard size. All of them.
>> > OTOH, I have always had a double sink, with garbage disposal on one side. I used to buy
>> > new ones at KMart. Now that they have closed, I will go to Ace Hardware. I have never
>> > purchased one that did not fit, although I did mistakenly once purchase one that was only a
>> > stopper, and didn't have the ability to stay open unless I tipped it at a slant in the drain.
>> >
>> > N.
>> >

>> Veering a bit off topic but still about sink stoppers, last year I had
>> the pesky pop-up stoppers in my bathroom sinks disconnected and bought
>> good old fashioned rubber stoppers. I got tired of dealing with
>> slow/clogged drains in the bathroom sinks. Products like Drain-O and
>> Liquid Plumr were a waste of money. Despite what online videos show,
>> the Zip-It drain cleaning tool was hindered by the pop-up mechanism. No
>> longer a worry. Those little rubber stoppers make things so much
>> easier! I went to a local hardware store and was surprised by all the
>> different sizes of bathroom sink stoppers. I needed a 1-1/4" (very
>> small) stopper.
>>
>> Jill

>
>Except when cleaning the sink, I never use the stopper. Even then, I
>close the stopper only to conveniently clean the stopper itself.
>
>Cindy Hamilton



There are stainless steel wire mesh screens that can cover the drain
hole to prevent hair from causing clogs. My wife has long hair that
sometimes breaks off that would otherwise clog the sink.... Amazon has
those screens. The screen lifts off so the original stopper can be
used... there are several styles:
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...=2CKZOEUK9KWNV
We have this one and it works very well, as you can see it's available
in a few different sizes, and the screen is easy to form with a
finger:
https://www.amazon.com/Bathroom-Lava...screens+1+inch
These screens save a lot of grief having to fish hair from the drains,
or paying a plumber... before ordering the screens I ordered a 10"
long ss tweezer and struggled with cleaning drains and needed to use a
flashlight to see down the drains. The drain screen eliminated the
problem.... will also prevent losing jewelry and contact lenses. The
only time I use the original stopper is for shaving.



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On 1/7/2019 10:04 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 9:58:19 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>> On 1/6/2019 10:40 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>> My experience over the decades I have lived with a half dozen or so sinks, is that a stainless
>>> adjustable (open or closed) stopper that has small holes or slots in it for water to go through
>>> when it is on an "open" setting, is that so far, they have all been a standard size. All of them.
>>> OTOH, I have always had a double sink, with garbage disposal on one side. I used to buy
>>> new ones at KMart. Now that they have closed, I will go to Ace Hardware. I have never
>>> purchased one that did not fit, although I did mistakenly once purchase one that was only a
>>> stopper, and didn't have the ability to stay open unless I tipped it at a slant in the drain.
>>>
>>> N.
>>>

>> Veering a bit off topic but still about sink stoppers, last year I had
>> the pesky pop-up stoppers in my bathroom sinks disconnected and bought
>> good old fashioned rubber stoppers. I got tired of dealing with
>> slow/clogged drains in the bathroom sinks. Products like Drain-O and
>> Liquid Plumr were a waste of money. Despite what online videos show,
>> the Zip-It drain cleaning tool was hindered by the pop-up mechanism. No
>> longer a worry. Those little rubber stoppers make things so much
>> easier! I went to a local hardware store and was surprised by all the
>> different sizes of bathroom sink stoppers. I needed a 1-1/4" (very
>> small) stopper.
>>
>> Jill

>
> Except when cleaning the sink, I never use the stopper. Even then, I
> close the stopper only to conveniently clean the stopper itself.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

That's kind of why I hated those built-in stoppers. They just got in
the way and let crud build up in the drain which led to clogs. I rarely
need to use a stopper in the bathroom sink.

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On 2019-01-07 9:41 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/7/2019 10:04 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 9:58:19 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>> On 1/6/2019 10:40 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>> My experience over the decades I have lived with a half dozen or so
>>>> sinks, is that a stainless
>>>> adjustable (open or closed) stopper that has small holes or slots in
>>>> it for water to go through
>>>> when it is on an "open" setting, is that so far, they have all been
>>>> a standard size.Â* All of them.
>>>> OTOH, I have always had a double sink, with garbage disposal on one
>>>> side.Â* I used to buy
>>>> new ones at KMart.Â* Now that they have closed, I will go to Ace
>>>> Hardware.Â* I have never
>>>> purchased one that did not fit, although I did mistakenly once
>>>> purchase one that was only a
>>>> stopper, and didn't have the ability to stay open unless I tipped it
>>>> at a slant in the drain.
>>>>
>>>> N.
>>>>
>>> Veering a bit off topic but still about sink stoppers, last year I had
>>> the pesky pop-up stoppers in my bathroom sinks disconnected and bought
>>> good old fashioned rubber stoppers.Â* I got tired of dealing with
>>> slow/clogged drains in the bathroom sinks.Â* Products like Drain-O and
>>> Liquid Plumr were a waste of money.Â* Despite what online videos show,
>>> the Zip-It drain cleaning tool was hindered by the pop-up mechanism.Â* No
>>> longer a worry.Â* Those little rubber stoppers make things so much
>>> easier!Â* I went to a local hardware store and was surprised by all the
>>> different sizes of bathroom sink stoppers.Â* I needed a 1-1/4" (very
>>> small) stopper.
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> Except when cleaning the sink, I never use the stopper.Â* Even then, I
>> close the stopper only to conveniently clean the stopper itself.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>

> That's kind of why I hated those built-in stoppers.Â* They just got in
> the way and let crud build up in the drain which led to clogs.Â* I rarely
> need to use a stopper in the bathroom sink.
>
> Jill

I agree! Both the pop-up and the plunger types clog up too easily.
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On 1/7/2019 11:46 AM, graham wrote:
> On 2019-01-07 9:41 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 1/7/2019 10:04 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 9:58:19 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>> On 1/6/2019 10:40 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>> My experience over the decades I have lived with a half dozen or so
>>>>> sinks, is that a stainless
>>>>> adjustable (open or closed) stopper that has small holes or slots
>>>>> in it for water to go through
>>>>> when it is on an "open" setting, is that so far, they have all been
>>>>> a standard size.Â* All of them.
>>>>> OTOH, I have always had a double sink, with garbage disposal on one
>>>>> side.Â* I used to buy
>>>>> new ones at KMart.Â* Now that they have closed, I will go to Ace
>>>>> Hardware.Â* I have never
>>>>> purchased one that did not fit, although I did mistakenly once
>>>>> purchase one that was only a
>>>>> stopper, and didn't have the ability to stay open unless I tipped
>>>>> it at a slant in the drain.
>>>>>
>>>>> N.
>>>>>
>>>> Veering a bit off topic but still about sink stoppers, last year I had
>>>> the pesky pop-up stoppers in my bathroom sinks disconnected and bought
>>>> good old fashioned rubber stoppers.Â* I got tired of dealing with
>>>> slow/clogged drains in the bathroom sinks.Â* Products like Drain-O and
>>>> Liquid Plumr were a waste of money.Â* Despite what online videos show,
>>>> the Zip-It drain cleaning tool was hindered by the pop-up
>>>> mechanism.Â* No
>>>> longer a worry.Â* Those little rubber stoppers make things so much
>>>> easier!Â* I went to a local hardware store and was surprised by all the
>>>> different sizes of bathroom sink stoppers.Â* I needed a 1-1/4" (very
>>>> small) stopper.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Except when cleaning the sink, I never use the stopper.Â* Even then, I
>>> close the stopper only to conveniently clean the stopper itself.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>

>> That's kind of why I hated those built-in stoppers.Â* They just got in
>> the way and let crud build up in the drain which led to clogs.Â* I
>> rarely need to use a stopper in the bathroom sink.
>>
>> Jill

> I agree! Both the pop-up and the plunger types clog up too easily.


Ditto. Too hard to keep clear of clogs. Years ago I used to hand wash
hosiery and 'delicates' in the bathroom sink. There was no other reason
to have a bathroom sink stopper. I always take off my jewelry before
washing my face or brushing my teeth. I make sure I never set jewelry
anywhere near the sink.

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> On 1/4/2019 1:12 PM, KenK wrote:
>> Recently I can't seem to find a kitchen sink stopper that will stay
>> open, allowing the water to drain.

>
> What the heck is the point of a stopper that allows water to drain?
>
> Jill
>


Sorry. I used the wrong word. I should have said sink strainer I guess.



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>On 1/7/2019 11:46 AM, graham wrote:
>> On 2019-01-07 9:41 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 1/7/2019 10:04 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 9:58:19 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>>> On 1/6/2019 10:40 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>>> My experience over the decades I have lived with a half dozen or so
>>>>>> sinks, is that a stainless
>>>>>> adjustable (open or closed) stopper that has small holes or slots
>>>>>> in it for water to go through
>>>>>> when it is on an "open" setting, is that so far, they have all been
>>>>>> a standard size.* All of them.
>>>>>> OTOH, I have always had a double sink, with garbage disposal on one
>>>>>> side.* I used to buy
>>>>>> new ones at KMart.* Now that they have closed, I will go to Ace
>>>>>> Hardware.* I have never
>>>>>> purchased one that did not fit, although I did mistakenly once
>>>>>> purchase one that was only a
>>>>>> stopper, and didn't have the ability to stay open unless I tipped
>>>>>> it at a slant in the drain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> N.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Veering a bit off topic but still about sink stoppers, last year I had
>>>>> the pesky pop-up stoppers in my bathroom sinks disconnected and bought
>>>>> good old fashioned rubber stoppers.* I got tired of dealing with
>>>>> slow/clogged drains in the bathroom sinks.* Products like Drain-O and
>>>>> Liquid Plumr were a waste of money.* Despite what online videos show,
>>>>> the Zip-It drain cleaning tool was hindered by the pop-up
>>>>> mechanism.* No
>>>>> longer a worry.* Those little rubber stoppers make things so much
>>>>> easier!* I went to a local hardware store and was surprised by all the
>>>>> different sizes of bathroom sink stoppers.* I needed a 1-1/4" (very
>>>>> small) stopper.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Except when cleaning the sink, I never use the stopper.* Even then, I
>>>> close the stopper only to conveniently clean the stopper itself.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>> That's kind of why I hated those built-in stoppers.* They just got in
>>> the way and let crud build up in the drain which led to clogs.* I
>>> rarely need to use a stopper in the bathroom sink.
>>>
>>> Jill

>> I agree! Both the pop-up and the plunger types clog up too easily.

>
>Ditto. Too hard to keep clear of clogs. Years ago I used to hand wash
>hosiery and 'delicates' in the bathroom sink. There was no other reason
>to have a bathroom sink stopper.


Obviously you don't shave. LOL
We have a screen over the drain, only time I remove the screen and
place the stopper back is when I shave.
I have the stopper disconnected from the plunger thingie so it just
pulls out after I finish shaving and the screen goes back. When not
used the stopper lives in a top vanity drawer with all my toilet
stuff, which isn't much. My wife has all the other five drawers and
they are full... she has tried to steal half of my one drawer but no
way.

>I always take off my jewelry before
>washing my face or brushing my teeth. I make sure I never set jewelry
>anywhere near the sink.
>
>Jill


That's smart. I don't wear jewelry at home, I spend too much time at
the kitchen sink.



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On 7 Jan 2019 17:55:20 GMT, KenK > wrote:

>jmcquown > wrote in
>news >
>> On 1/4/2019 1:12 PM, KenK wrote:
>>> Recently I can't seem to find a kitchen sink stopper that will stay
>>> open, allowing the water to drain.

>>
>> What the heck is the point of a stopper that allows water to drain?
>>
>> Jill

>
>Sorry. I used the wrong word. I should have said sink strainer I guess.


My kitchen sink has a strainer that can be open or closed but it's
very rare that I fill that over sized sink, I use a plastic dish pan.
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> Obviously you don't shave. LOL


My husband shaves in the shower. It's not for everybody, but it works
for him. He holds a plastic mirror in one hand while he shaves around
his beard. Been doing it that way for at least 33 years.

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> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:03:05 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
>> Obviously you don't shave. LOL

>
> My husband shaves in the shower. It's not for everybody, but it works
> for him. He holds a plastic mirror in one hand while he shaves around
> his beard. Been doing it that way for at least 33 years.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>


Does he shave his nuts that way too?

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On 1/7/2019 2:03 PM, wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 12:43:27 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/7/2019 11:46 AM, graham wrote:
>>> On 2019-01-07 9:41 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 1/7/2019 10:04 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 9:58:19 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/6/2019 10:40 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>>>> My experience over the decades I have lived with a half dozen or so
>>>>>>> sinks, is that a stainless
>>>>>>> adjustable (open or closed) stopper that has small holes or slots
>>>>>>> in it for water to go through
>>>>>>> when it is on an "open" setting, is that so far, they have all been
>>>>>>> a standard size.Â* All of them.
>>>>>>> OTOH, I have always had a double sink, with garbage disposal on one
>>>>>>> side.Â* I used to buy
>>>>>>> new ones at KMart.Â* Now that they have closed, I will go to Ace
>>>>>>> Hardware.Â* I have never
>>>>>>> purchased one that did not fit, although I did mistakenly once
>>>>>>> purchase one that was only a
>>>>>>> stopper, and didn't have the ability to stay open unless I tipped
>>>>>>> it at a slant in the drain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> N.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Veering a bit off topic but still about sink stoppers, last year I had
>>>>>> the pesky pop-up stoppers in my bathroom sinks disconnected and bought
>>>>>> good old fashioned rubber stoppers.Â* I got tired of dealing with
>>>>>> slow/clogged drains in the bathroom sinks.Â* Products like Drain-O and
>>>>>> Liquid Plumr were a waste of money.Â* Despite what online videos show,
>>>>>> the Zip-It drain cleaning tool was hindered by the pop-up
>>>>>> mechanism.Â* No
>>>>>> longer a worry.Â* Those little rubber stoppers make things so much
>>>>>> easier!Â* I went to a local hardware store and was surprised by all the
>>>>>> different sizes of bathroom sink stoppers.Â* I needed a 1-1/4" (very
>>>>>> small) stopper.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> Except when cleaning the sink, I never use the stopper.Â* Even then, I
>>>>> close the stopper only to conveniently clean the stopper itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>> That's kind of why I hated those built-in stoppers.Â* They just got in
>>>> the way and let crud build up in the drain which led to clogs.Â* I
>>>> rarely need to use a stopper in the bathroom sink.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>> I agree! Both the pop-up and the plunger types clog up too easily.

>>
>> Ditto. Too hard to keep clear of clogs. Years ago I used to hand wash
>> hosiery and 'delicates' in the bathroom sink. There was no other reason
>> to have a bathroom sink stopper.

>
> Obviously you don't shave. LOL


Not in the bathroom sink!

> We have a screen over the drain, only time I remove the screen and
> place the stopper back is when I shave.
> I have the stopper disconnected from the plunger thingie so it just
> pulls out after I finish shaving and the screen goes back. When not
> used the stopper lives in a top vanity drawer with all my toilet
> stuff, which isn't much. My wife has all the other five drawers and
> they are full... she has tried to steal half of my one drawer but no
> way.
>
>> I always take off my jewelry before
>> washing my face or brushing my teeth. I make sure I never set jewelry
>> anywhere near the sink.
>>
>> Jill

>
> That's smart. I don't wear jewelry at home, I spend too much time at
> the kitchen sink.
>

I take my rings off before doing anything in the kitchen. I posted
something last year about that. I see women on cooking shows mixing
things with their hands and they always have rings on. I can't imagine
them not getting all gunked up. I always take them off. Just don't set
them anywhere near the sink.

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On 1/7/2019 2:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:03:05 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
>> Obviously you don't shave. LOL

>
> My husband shaves in the shower. It's not for everybody, but it works
> for him. He holds a plastic mirror in one hand while he shaves around
> his beard. Been doing it that way for at least 33 years.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Maybe you should get one of those hanging shower mirrors for him.

When I had to shave my legs I shaved in the shower. Or I used an
electric razor (obviously not near water!). I'm fair haired and as I've
gotten older I've found I don't have hair on my legs anymore. I do
still have to shave my oxters but I do that in the shower.

Jill


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On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 17:28:40 -0500, jmcquown >
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>On 1/7/2019 2:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:03:05 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>>> Obviously you don't shave. LOL

>>
>> My husband shaves in the shower. It's not for everybody, but it works
>> for him. He holds a plastic mirror in one hand while he shaves around
>> his beard. Been doing it that way for at least 33 years.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>

>Maybe you should get one of those hanging shower mirrors for him.
>
>When I had to shave my legs I shaved in the shower. Or I used an
>electric razor (obviously not near water!). I'm fair haired and as I've
>gotten older I've found I don't have hair on my legs anymore. I do
>still have to shave my oxters but I do that in the shower.



Definition of oxter

1 chiefly Scotland and Ireland : armpit
<https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oxter>
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On 1/7/2019 2:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:03:05 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
>> Obviously you don't shave. LOL

>
> My husband shaves in the shower. It's not for everybody, but it works
> for him. He holds a plastic mirror in one hand while he shaves around
> his beard. Been doing it that way for at least 33 years.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Why hold it? My mirror hangs from the shower head pipe.
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"Bruce" wrote in message news
On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 17:28:40 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 1/7/2019 2:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:03:05 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>>> Obviously you don't shave. LOL

>>
>> My husband shaves in the shower. It's not for everybody, but it works
>> for him. He holds a plastic mirror in one hand while he shaves around
>> his beard. Been doing it that way for at least 33 years.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>

>Maybe you should get one of those hanging shower mirrors for him.
>
>When I had to shave my legs I shaved in the shower. Or I used an
>electric razor (obviously not near water!). I'm fair haired and as I've
>gotten older I've found I don't have hair on my legs anymore. I do
>still have to shave my oxters but I do that in the shower.



Definition of oxter

1 chiefly Scotland and Ireland : armpit
<https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oxter>
==

Ya got it ;p


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On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 5:28:47 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 1/7/2019 2:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:03:05 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> >
> >> Obviously you don't shave. LOL

> >
> > My husband shaves in the shower. It's not for everybody, but it works
> > for him. He holds a plastic mirror in one hand while he shaves around
> > his beard. Been doing it that way for at least 33 years.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >

> Maybe you should get one of those hanging shower mirrors for him.


Handheld allows him to fine-tune the amount of light reflected off of
it. And to hold it as close as he wishes.

He was an optics technician. I believe he has optimized the experience.

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On 1/8/2019 4:10 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Bruce"Â* wrote in message
> news >
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 17:28:40 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/7/2019 2:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:03:05 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Obviously you don't shave. LOL
>>>
>>> My husband shaves in the shower.Â* It's not for everybody, but it works
>>> for him.Â* He holds a plastic mirror in one hand while he shaves around
>>> his beard.Â* Been doing it that way for at least 33 years.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>

>> Maybe you should get one of those hanging shower mirrors for him.
>>
>> When I had to shave my legs I shaved in the shower.Â* Or I used an
>> electric razor (obviously not near water!).Â* I'm fair haired and as I've
>> gotten older I've found I don't have hair on my legs anymore.Â* I do
>> still have to shave my oxters but I do that in the shower.

>
>
> Definition of oxter
>
> 1 chiefly Scotland and Ireland : armpit
> <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oxter>
> ==
>
> Ya got it ;p
>
>

LOL I once won tickets to a comedy club by calling in to a radio show
and answering the question "What is an oxter?". The DJ exclaimed, "Wow!
I didn't think anyone would get that!" He put me on hold then
immediately came back and asked if I'm in the medical field. I laughed
and said no, my grandmother was Scottish.

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On 1/8/2019 6:07 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 5:28:47 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>> On 1/7/2019 2:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:03:05 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Obviously you don't shave. LOL
>>>
>>> My husband shaves in the shower. It's not for everybody, but it works
>>> for him. He holds a plastic mirror in one hand while he shaves around
>>> his beard. Been doing it that way for at least 33 years.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>

>> Maybe you should get one of those hanging shower mirrors for him.

>
> Handheld allows him to fine-tune the amount of light reflected off of
> it. And to hold it as close as he wishes.
>
> He was an optics technician. I believe he has optimized the experience.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Hey, whatever works for him. Sheldon was making a joke. Women don't
generally shave over the bathroom sink.

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On 1/8/2019 4:10 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> news >
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 17:28:40 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/7/2019 2:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:03:05 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Obviously you don't shave. LOL
>>>
>>> My husband shaves in the shower. It's not for everybody, but it works
>>> for him. He holds a plastic mirror in one hand while he shaves around
>>> his beard. Been doing it that way for at least 33 years.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>

>> Maybe you should get one of those hanging shower mirrors for him.
>>
>> When I had to shave my legs I shaved in the shower. Or I used an
>> electric razor (obviously not near water!). I'm fair haired and as I've
>> gotten older I've found I don't have hair on my legs anymore. I do
>> still have to shave my oxters but I do that in the shower.

>
>
> Definition of oxter
>
> 1 chiefly Scotland and Ireland : armpit
> <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oxter>
> ==
>
> Ya got it ;p
>
>

LOL I once won tickets to a comedy club by calling in to a radio show
and answering the question "What is an oxter?". The DJ exclaimed, "Wow!
I didn't think anyone would get that!" He put me on hold then
immediately came back and asked if I'm in the medical field. I laughed
and said no, my grandmother was Scottish.

Jill

==


lol that's enough to do it)))


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>On 1/8/2019 4:10 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Bruce"A wrote in message
>> news >>
>> On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 17:28:40 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/7/2019 2:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:03:05 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Obviously you don't shave. LOL
>>>>
>>>> My husband shaves in the shower.A It's not for everybody, but it works
>>>> for him.A He holds a plastic mirror in one hand while he shaves around
>>>> his beard.A Been doing it that way for at least 33 years.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>> Maybe you should get one of those hanging shower mirrors for him.
>>>
>>> When I had to shave my legs I shaved in the shower.A Or I used an
>>> electric razor (obviously not near water!).A I'm fair haired and as I've
>>> gotten older I've found I don't have hair on my legs anymore.A I do
>>> still have to shave my oxters but I do that in the shower.

>>
>>
>> Definition of oxter
>>
>> 1 chiefly Scotland and Ireland : armpit
>> <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oxter>
>> ==
>>
>> Ya got it ;p
>>
>>

>LOL I once won tickets to a comedy club by calling in to a radio show
>and answering the question "What is an oxter?". The DJ exclaimed, "Wow!
> I didn't think anyone would get that!" He put me on hold then
>immediately came back and asked if I'm in the medical field. I laughed
>and said no, my grandmother was Scottish.
>
>Jill


the medical term is axilla

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On 1/8/2019 6:06 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> writes:
>> On 1/8/2019 4:10 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bruce"A wrote in message
>>> news >>>
>>> On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 17:28:40 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/7/2019 2:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:03:05 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Obviously you don't shave. LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> My husband shaves in the shower.A It's not for everybody, but it works
>>>>> for him.A He holds a plastic mirror in one hand while he shaves around
>>>>> his beard.A Been doing it that way for at least 33 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>> Maybe you should get one of those hanging shower mirrors for him.
>>>>
>>>> When I had to shave my legs I shaved in the shower.A Or I used an
>>>> electric razor (obviously not near water!).A I'm fair haired and as I've
>>>> gotten older I've found I don't have hair on my legs anymore.A I do
>>>> still have to shave my oxters but I do that in the shower.
>>>
>>>
>>> Definition of oxter
>>>
>>> 1 chiefly Scotland and Ireland : armpit
>>> <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oxter>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> Ya got it ;p
>>>
>>>

>> LOL I once won tickets to a comedy club by calling in to a radio show
>> and answering the question "What is an oxter?". The DJ exclaimed, "Wow!
>> I didn't think anyone would get that!" He put me on hold then
>> immediately came back and asked if I'm in the medical field. I laughed
>> and said no, my grandmother was Scottish.
>>
>> Jill

>
> the medical term is axilla
>

I don't know why he asked me about medical whatever. All I knew was my
grandmother referred to armpits as oxters.

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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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> On 1/7/2019 2:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:03:05 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>>> Obviously you don't shave. LOL

>>
>> My husband shaves in the shower. It's not for everybody, but it works
>> for him. He holds a plastic mirror in one hand while he shaves around
>> his beard. Been doing it that way for at least 33 years.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>

> Why hold it? My mirror hangs from the shower head pipe.


Depends on what he is shaving!

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