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On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 09:04:46 -0000, "Ophelia" >
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>"Brice" wrote in message
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>On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:22:45 -0500, jmcquown >
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>>On 11/16/2018 9:19 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think that harks back to old world Catholism. No meat on Friday
>>>> but fish was okay. Just guessing!
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Such is the take that most historians have on it.
>>>
>>Such was the take of the Catholic church until fairly recently. It's
>>not all that long ago "meatless Friday" was done away with. Since I'm
>>not a Catholic I don't remember the year but it was within the last two
>>decades. It's no longer considered a "You'll go to Hell" thing.
>
>It probably never was.
>
>==
>
>We did have meatless friday but we were never told we would go to hell if
>we
>didn't stick to it!

No, I think that was more for cardinal stuff.

==
No idea

On 2018-11-17 11:17 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/15/2018 9:04 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> The purpose is to do a little sacrifice.Â* You can't have a hot dog so
>> instead you have a lobster for penance.Â* I wondered about that in 4th
>> grade.
>
> I guess that's the purpose.Â* I wish I'd had lobster with drawn butter or
> some nice steamed crab for "penance" on Fridays in the 4th grade. LOL
>
There was a time when lobster was poor people's food.

On 2018-11-17 11:22 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/16/2018 9:19 PM, cshenk wrote:

>>> I think that harks back to old world Catholism.Â* No meat on Friday
>>> but fish was okay.Â* Just guessing!
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Such is the take that most historians have on it.
>>
> Such was the take of the Catholic church until fairly recently.Â* It's
> not all that long ago "meatless Friday" was done away with.Â* Since I'm
> not a Catholic I don't remember the year but it was within the last two
> decades.Â* It's no longer considered a "You'll go to Hell" thing.
>

It's funny how religions work. Some have faith in their religion
because the stories, the teachings, rituals and rules have been around
for such a long time. The last few decades have seen major changes.
Catholics can have meat on Friday now. They have a more lenient view on
birth control and the use of condoms. Churches that have condemned
homosexuality for centuries now have *** clergy and they offer same sex
marriages. Brides are no longer expected to be virgins.

On 11/18/2018 9:31 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-11-17 11:17 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 11/15/2018 9:04 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>>> The purpose is to do a little sacrifice.Â* You can't have a hot dog so
>>> instead you have a lobster for penance.Â* I wondered about that in 4th
>>> grade.
>>
>> I guess that's the purpose.Â* I wish I'd had lobster with drawn butter
>> or some nice steamed crab for "penance" on Fridays in the 4th grade. LOL
>>
> There was a time when lobster was poor people's food.
>
Only if you lived on the coast!

Jill

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> On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:20:24 -0800, "Cheri" >
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>>"Brice" > wrote in message
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>>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:22:45 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 11/16/2018 9:19 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that harks back to old world Catholism. No meat on Friday
>>>>>> but fish was okay. Just guessing!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> Such is the take that most historians have on it.
>>>>>
>>>>Such was the take of the Catholic church until fairly recently. It's
>>>>not all that long ago "meatless Friday" was done away with. Since I'm
>>>>not a Catholic I don't remember the year but it was within the last two
>>>>decades. It's no longer considered a "You'll go to Hell" thing.
>>>
>>> It probably never was.
>>
>>
>>Nope, and it's been at least 30 years. Of course they cooked better meat
>>in
>>the USA. ;-)
>
> So those Fridays were extra hard for American Catholics. They were
> really missing out.


Not at all, they perfected many fish dishes as well. ;-)

Cheri

On 2018-11-18 9:40 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/18/2018 9:31 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

>> There was a time when lobster was poor people's food.
>>
> Only if you lived on the coast!

True. If you didn't on the coast you didn't get lobster. They weren't
able to ship in inland until they had better transportation.

On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 06:47:07 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Brice" > wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:20:24 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
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>>>"Brice" > wrote in message
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>>>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:22:45 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 11/16/2018 9:19 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that harks back to old world Catholism. No meat on Friday
>>>>>>> but fish was okay. Just guessing!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Such is the take that most historians have on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Such was the take of the Catholic church until fairly recently. It's
>>>>>not all that long ago "meatless Friday" was done away with. Since I'm
>>>>>not a Catholic I don't remember the year but it was within the last two
>>>>>decades. It's no longer considered a "You'll go to Hell" thing.
>>>>
>>>> It probably never was.
>>>
>>>
>>>Nope, and it's been at least 30 years. Of course they cooked better meat
>>>in
>>>the USA. ;-)
>>
>> So those Fridays were extra hard for American Catholics. They were
>> really missing out.
>
>
>Not at all, they perfected many fish dishes as well. ;-)

You're so lucky. I wish I was American too

"Brice" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 06:47:07 -0800, "Cheri" >
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>>"Brice" > wrote in message
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>>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:20:24 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
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>>>>"Brice" > wrote in message
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>>>>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:22:45 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 11/16/2018 9:19 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think that harks back to old world Catholism. No meat on Friday
>>>>>>>> but fish was okay. Just guessing!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Such is the take that most historians have on it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Such was the take of the Catholic church until fairly recently. It's
>>>>>>not all that long ago "meatless Friday" was done away with. Since I'm
>>>>>>not a Catholic I don't remember the year but it was within the last
>>>>>>two
>>>>>>decades. It's no longer considered a "You'll go to Hell" thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> It probably never was.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Nope, and it's been at least 30 years. Of course they cooked better meat
>>>>in
>>>>the USA. ;-)
>>>
>>> So those Fridays were extra hard for American Catholics. They were
>>> really missing out.
>>
>>
>>Not at all, they perfected many fish dishes as well. ;-)
>
> You're so lucky. I wish I was American too


If you were, you could learn to cook. LOL

Cheri

On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 07:51:28 -0800, "Cheri" >
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>"Brice" > wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 06:47:07 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
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>>>"Brice" > wrote in message
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>>>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:20:24 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>"Brice" > wrote in message
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>>>>>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:22:45 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 11/16/2018 9:19 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think that harks back to old world Catholism. No meat on Friday
>>>>>>>>> but fish was okay. Just guessing!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Such is the take that most historians have on it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Such was the take of the Catholic church until fairly recently. It's
>>>>>>>not all that long ago "meatless Friday" was done away with. Since I'm
>>>>>>>not a Catholic I don't remember the year but it was within the last
>>>>>>>two
>>>>>>>decades. It's no longer considered a "You'll go to Hell" thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It probably never was.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Nope, and it's been at least 30 years. Of course they cooked better meat
>>>>>in
>>>>>the USA. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> So those Fridays were extra hard for American Catholics. They were
>>>> really missing out.
>>>
>>>
>>>Not at all, they perfected many fish dishes as well. ;-)
>>
>> You're so lucky. I wish I was American too
>
>
>If you were, you could learn to cook. LOL

Yes, with improved recipes.

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> On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 07:51:28 -0800, "Cheri" >
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>>"Brice" > wrote in message
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>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 06:47:07 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
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>>>>"Brice" > wrote in message
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>>>>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:20:24 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:22:45 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 11/16/2018 9:19 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think that harks back to old world Catholism. No meat on
>>>>>>>>>> Friday
>>>>>>>>>> but fish was okay. Just guessing!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Such is the take that most historians have on it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Such was the take of the Catholic church until fairly recently.
>>>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>>>not all that long ago "meatless Friday" was done away with. Since
>>>>>>>>I'm
>>>>>>>>not a Catholic I don't remember the year but it was within the last
>>>>>>>>two
>>>>>>>>decades. It's no longer considered a "You'll go to Hell" thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It probably never was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nope, and it's been at least 30 years. Of course they cooked better
>>>>>>meat
>>>>>>in
>>>>>>the USA. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> So those Fridays were extra hard for American Catholics. They were
>>>>> really missing out.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Not at all, they perfected many fish dishes as well. ;-)
>>>
>>> You're so lucky. I wish I was American too
>>
>>
>>If you were, you could learn to cook. LOL
>
> Yes, with improved recipes.


And attitude. LOL

Cheri

On 2018-11-18 8:51 a.m., Cheri wrote:
> "Brice" > wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 06:47:07 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
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>>> "Brice" > wrote in message
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>>>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:20:24 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> "Brice" > wrote in message
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>>>>>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:22:45 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 9:19 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think that harks back to old world Catholism.* No meat on Friday
>>>>>>>>> but fish was okay.* Just guessing!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Such is the take that most historians have on it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Such was the take of the Catholic church until fairly recently.
>>>>>>> It's
>>>>>>> not all that long ago "meatless Friday" was done away with.
>>>>>>> Since I'm
>>>>>>> not a Catholic I don't remember the year but it was within the
>>>>>>> last two
>>>>>>> decades.* It's no longer considered a "You'll go to Hell" thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It probably never was.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, and it's been at least 30 years. Of course they cooked better
>>>>> meat
>>>>> in
>>>>> the USA. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> So those Fridays were extra hard for American Catholics. They were
>>>> really missing out.
>>>
>>>
>>> Not at all, they perfected many fish dishes as well. ;-)
>>
>> You're so lucky. I wish I was American too
>
>
> If you were, you could learn to cook. LOL
>
> Cheri
From cans!

On 2018-11-18 7:31 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-11-17 11:17 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 11/15/2018 9:04 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>>> The purpose is to do a little sacrifice.Â* You can't have a hot dog so
>>> instead you have a lobster for penance.Â* I wondered about that in 4th
>>> grade.
>>
>> I guess that's the purpose.Â* I wish I'd had lobster with drawn butter
>> or some nice steamed crab for "penance" on Fridays in the 4th grade. LOL
>>
> There was a time when lobster was poor people's food.
>
And oysters!

On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 11:06:36 -0700, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-11-18 8:51 a.m., Cheri wrote:
>> "Brice" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 06:47:07 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Brice" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>> So those Fridays were extra hard for American Catholics. They were
>>>>> really missing out.
>>>>
>>>> Not at all, they perfected many fish dishes as well. ;-)
>>>
>>> You're so lucky. I wish I was American too
>>
>> If you were, you could learn to cook. LOL
>>
>> Cheri

> From cans!

Fresh tastes better, Graham. Try it at least!

On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 9:47:57 AM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
> "Brice" > wrote in message
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> > On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:20:24 -0800, "Cheri" >
> > wrote:
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> >>"Brice" > wrote in message
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> >>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:22:45 -0500, jmcquown >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On 11/16/2018 9:19 PM, cshenk wrote:
> >>>>> jmcquown wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I think that harks back to old world Catholism. No meat on Friday
> >>>>>> but fish was okay. Just guessing!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jill
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Such is the take that most historians have on it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>Such was the take of the Catholic church until fairly recently. It's
> >>>>not all that long ago "meatless Friday" was done away with. Since I'm
> >>>>not a Catholic I don't remember the year but it was within the last two
> >>>>decades. It's no longer considered a "You'll go to Hell" thing.
> >>>
> >>> It probably never was.
> >>
> >>
> >>Nope, and it's been at least 30 years. Of course they cooked better meat
> >>in
> >>the USA. ;-)
> >
> > So those Fridays were extra hard for American Catholics. They were
> > really missing out.
>
>
> Not at all, they perfected many fish dishes as well. ;-)
>
> Cheri

Ah, yes. I recall my Catholic babysitter's fish sticks.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 10:09:36 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-11-18 9:40 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 11/18/2018 9:31 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> There was a time when lobster was poor people's food.
>>>
>> Only if you lived on the coast!
>
>True. If you didn't on the coast you didn't get lobster. They weren't
>able to ship in inland until they had better transportation.

Tasmania has freshwater lobsters, they grow to be huge. They are a
protected species, however.

On 2018-11-18 5:26 p.m., Je�us wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 10:09:36 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2018-11-18 9:40 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 11/18/2018 9:31 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>> There was a time when lobster was poor people's food.
>>>>
>>> Only if you lived on the coast!
>>
>> True. If you didn't on the coast you didn't get lobster. They weren't
>> able to ship in inland until they had better transportation.
>
> Tasmania has freshwater lobsters, they grow to be huge. They are a
> protected species, however.
>

Can you rip off one of their claws and release them so the claws with
grow back?

In article >, graham >
wrote:

> On 2018-11-17 7:16 a.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

> > Socialism is the religion of envy. Just so you know.
> >
> and Capitalism the religion of greed! Just so YOU know!

And there you have it Graham. Both statements are true. Let's call it
the complete human condition. Everyone is somewhere on the meter
encompassing greed and envy. It's a zero-sum game.

leo