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jmcquown[_2_] 01-11-2018 05:12 PM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
I've told this before but it is always good for a laugh. :)

One year in the mid 1970's my mother decided she didn't want to cook
Thanksgiving dinner. She kept seeing ads on television from a nearby
grocery store, Kroger. "Let Kroger Do It For You!" All the work. All
the side dishes. Just pick it up!

This was before the Internet, folks. This was before Cable TV. She saw
ads on TV for local stores and store promotions. We only got four
television channels. CBS, NBC, ABC and PBS. Local advertising.

She used the phone (OMG, a land line) and called the Kroger supermarket
in Bartlett, TN. Said she'd seen the ad. She ordered a Thanksgiving
dinner. Roast turkey, mashed potatoes, dressing, gravy. Two sides and
a pie. To be picked up around Noon on Thanksgiving day.

My middle brother and I went with her to pick it up. My brother was
loading the box into the trunk when he said, "This feels very cold." We
opened the box in the parking lot... what was in the box? Frozen solid
food. A frozen *uncooked* turkey. Frozen everything side dishes. With
instructions on how to cook all of it.

The television ads (I remember them) made it sound like it would be a
fully cooked meal. Just bring it home and plate it. It definitely was
not that.

I have rarely seen my mother display anger in public but she did on that
day. She told my brother to grab the box and she marched back into the
store. I was trailing behind thinking "Uh oh." LOL She gave the store
manager what for. She cited false advertising. She asked what the heck
was she supposed to do with this box of frozen solid uncooked food? At
Noon. On Thanksgiving. She demanded and got her money back.

A cautionary tale based in reality.

We went to another grocery store and bought some NY strip steaks and
russet potatoes. We had broiled steaks and baked potatoes for
Thanksgiving dinner that year. :)

Jill

Cheri[_3_] 01-11-2018 05:26 PM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> I've told this before but it is always good for a laugh. :)
>
> One year in the mid 1970's my mother decided she didn't want to cook
> Thanksgiving dinner. She kept seeing ads on television from a nearby
> grocery store, Kroger. "Let Kroger Do It For You!" All the work. All
> the side dishes. Just pick it up!
>
> This was before the Internet, folks. This was before Cable TV. She saw
> ads on TV for local stores and store promotions. We only got four
> television channels. CBS, NBC, ABC and PBS. Local advertising.
>
> She used the phone (OMG, a land line) and called the Kroger supermarket in
> Bartlett, TN. Said she'd seen the ad. She ordered a Thanksgiving dinner.
> Roast turkey, mashed potatoes, dressing, gravy. Two sides and a pie. To
> be picked up around Noon on Thanksgiving day.
>
> My middle brother and I went with her to pick it up. My brother was
> loading the box into the trunk when he said, "This feels very cold." We
> opened the box in the parking lot... what was in the box? Frozen solid
> food. A frozen *uncooked* turkey. Frozen everything side dishes. With
> instructions on how to cook all of it.
>
> The television ads (I remember them) made it sound like it would be a
> fully cooked meal. Just bring it home and plate it. It definitely was
> not that.
>
> I have rarely seen my mother display anger in public but she did on that
> day. She told my brother to grab the box and she marched back into the
> store. I was trailing behind thinking "Uh oh." LOL She gave the store
> manager what for. She cited false advertising. She asked what the heck
> was she supposed to do with this box of frozen solid uncooked food? At
> Noon. On Thanksgiving. She demanded and got her money back.
>
> A cautionary tale based in reality.
>
> We went to another grocery store and bought some NY strip steaks and
> russet potatoes. We had broiled steaks and baked potatoes for
> Thanksgiving dinner that year. :)
>
> Jill



Damn, I would have been ****ed too! I have ordered hams and things, and have
been tempted to order a pre-cooked holiday meal when just the two of us, but
never have. I assume that they are fully cooked. LOL

Cheri


notbob 01-11-2018 07:18 PM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
On 11/1/2018 11:12 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> I've told this before but it is always good for a laugh. :)


Been there, played that game. I only did it once, many yrs ago. ;)

nb

John Kuthe[_3_] 01-11-2018 09:07 PM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 11:12:31 AM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
....
>
> A cautionary tale based in reality.
>
> We went to another grocery store and bought some NY strip steaks and
> russet potatoes. We had broiled steaks and baked potatoes for
> Thanksgiving dinner that year. :)
>
> Jill


New Thankgiving Day Dinner customs are sometimes necessary!!

Fa-Ra, Ra Ra Ra Ra-Ra Ra Ra Ra!

;-)

John Kuthe...

jmcquown[_2_] 02-11-2018 03:12 PM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
On 11/1/2018 1:26 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I've told this before but it is always good for a laugh. :)
>>
>> One year in the mid 1970's my mother decided she didn't want to cook
>> Thanksgiving dinner.* She kept seeing ads on television from a nearby
>> grocery store, Kroger.* "Let Kroger Do It For You!"* All the work.
>> All the side dishes.* Just pick it up!
>>
>> This was before the Internet, folks.* This was before Cable TV.* She
>> saw ads on TV for local stores and store promotions.* We only got four
>> television channels.* CBS, NBC, ABC and PBS.* Local advertising.
>>
>> She used the phone (OMG, a land line) and called the Kroger
>> supermarket in Bartlett, TN.* Said she'd seen the ad.* She ordered a
>> Thanksgiving dinner. Roast turkey, mashed potatoes, dressing, gravy.
>> Two sides and a pie.* To be picked up around Noon on Thanksgiving day.
>>
>> My middle brother and I went with her to pick it up.* My brother was
>> loading the box into the trunk when he said, "This feels very cold."
>> We opened the box in the parking lot... what was in the box?* Frozen
>> solid food.* A frozen *uncooked* turkey.* Frozen everything side
>> dishes.* With instructions on how to cook all of it.
>>
>> The television ads (I remember them) made it sound like it would be a
>> fully cooked meal.* Just bring it home and plate it.* It definitely
>> was not that.
>>
>> I have rarely seen my mother display anger in public but she did on
>> that day.* She told my brother to grab the box and she marched back
>> into the store.* I was trailing behind thinking "Uh oh." LOL* She gave
>> the store manager what for.* She cited false advertising.* She asked
>> what the heck was she supposed to do with this box of frozen solid
>> uncooked food?* At Noon.* On Thanksgiving.* She demanded and got her
>> money back.
>>
>> A cautionary tale based in reality.
>>
>> We went to another grocery store and bought some NY strip steaks and
>> russet potatoes.* We had broiled steaks and baked potatoes for
>> Thanksgiving dinner that year. :)
>>
>> Jill

>
>
> Damn, I would have been ****ed too! I have ordered hams and things, and
> have been tempted to order a pre-cooked holiday meal when just the two
> of us, but never have. I assume that they are fully cooked. LOL
>
> Cheri


It certainly came as a surprise! In retrospect, I wonder how they were
supposed to have cooked it? AFAIK grocery stores in the 1970's didn't
have the equipment. They didn't sell rotisserie or fried chicken,
didn't have in-house bakeries.

I felt a bit sorry for the manager. I doubt he had any control over the
corporate advertising. For all he knew she was planning to cook it the
following weekend, plenty of time to thaw out the turkey and containers
of side dishes.

Jill

Cheri[_3_] 02-11-2018 03:23 PM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/1/2018 1:26 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I've told this before but it is always good for a laugh. :)
>>>
>>> One year in the mid 1970's my mother decided she didn't want to cook
>>> Thanksgiving dinner. She kept seeing ads on television from a nearby
>>> grocery store, Kroger. "Let Kroger Do It For You!" All the work. All
>>> the side dishes. Just pick it up!
>>>
>>> This was before the Internet, folks. This was before Cable TV. She saw
>>> ads on TV for local stores and store promotions. We only got four
>>> television channels. CBS, NBC, ABC and PBS. Local advertising.
>>>
>>> She used the phone (OMG, a land line) and called the Kroger supermarket
>>> in Bartlett, TN. Said she'd seen the ad. She ordered a Thanksgiving
>>> dinner. Roast turkey, mashed potatoes, dressing, gravy. Two sides and a
>>> pie. To be picked up around Noon on Thanksgiving day.
>>>
>>> My middle brother and I went with her to pick it up. My brother was
>>> loading the box into the trunk when he said, "This feels very cold." We
>>> opened the box in the parking lot... what was in the box? Frozen solid
>>> food. A frozen *uncooked* turkey. Frozen everything side dishes. With
>>> instructions on how to cook all of it.
>>>
>>> The television ads (I remember them) made it sound like it would be a
>>> fully cooked meal. Just bring it home and plate it. It definitely was
>>> not that.
>>>
>>> I have rarely seen my mother display anger in public but she did on that
>>> day. She told my brother to grab the box and she marched back into the
>>> store. I was trailing behind thinking "Uh oh." LOL She gave the store
>>> manager what for. She cited false advertising. She asked what the heck
>>> was she supposed to do with this box of frozen solid uncooked food? At
>>> Noon. On Thanksgiving. She demanded and got her money back.
>>>
>>> A cautionary tale based in reality.
>>>
>>> We went to another grocery store and bought some NY strip steaks and
>>> russet potatoes. We had broiled steaks and baked potatoes for
>>> Thanksgiving dinner that year. :)
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>>
>> Damn, I would have been ****ed too! I have ordered hams and things, and
>> have been tempted to order a pre-cooked holiday meal when just the two of
>> us, but never have. I assume that they are fully cooked. LOL
>>
>> Cheri

>
> It certainly came as a surprise! In retrospect, I wonder how they were
> supposed to have cooked it? AFAIK grocery stores in the 1970's didn't
> have the equipment. They didn't sell rotisserie or fried chicken, didn't
> have in-house bakeries.
>
> I felt a bit sorry for the manager. I doubt he had any control over the
> corporate advertising. For all he knew she was planning to cook it the
> following weekend, plenty of time to thaw out the turkey and containers of
> side dishes.
>
> Jill



True, but how much trouble would it have been to list it frozen, ready to
cook?

Cheri


[email protected][_2_] 02-11-2018 04:32 PM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 10:24:43 AM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > I felt a bit sorry for the manager. I doubt he had any control over the
> > corporate advertising. For all he knew she was planning to cook it the
> > following weekend, plenty of time to thaw out the turkey and containers of
> > side dishes.
> >
> > Jill

>
> True, but how much trouble would it have been to list it frozen, ready to
> cook?
>
> Cheri
>

Yes, the manager probably had no control over corporate advertising but I
bet the ad in the paper showed a beautifully browned turkey accompanied
by some yummy looking sides. Just a few words added to the ad would have
made all the difference in the world. "No preparation needed! Comes frozen
ready to be cooked."


jmcquown[_2_] 02-11-2018 04:58 PM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
On 11/2/2018 11:23 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 11/1/2018 1:26 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I've told this before but it is always good for a laugh. :)
>>>>
>>>> One year in the mid 1970's my mother decided she didn't want to cook
>>>> Thanksgiving dinner. She kept seeing ads on television from a nearby
>>>> grocery store, Kroger. "Let Kroger Do It For You!" All the work.
>>>> All the side dishes. Just pick it up!
>>>>
>>>> This was before the Internet, folks. This was before Cable TV. She
>>>> saw ads on TV for local stores and store promotions. We only got
>>>> four television channels. CBS, NBC, ABC and PBS. Local advertising.
>>>>
>>>> She used the phone (OMG, a land line) and called the Kroger
>>>> supermarket in Bartlett, TN. Said she'd seen the ad. She ordered a
>>>> Thanksgiving dinner. Roast turkey, mashed potatoes, dressing,
>>>> gravy.* Two sides and a pie. To be picked up around Noon on
>>>> Thanksgiving day.
>>>>
>>>> My middle brother and I went with her to pick it up. My brother was
>>>> loading the box into the trunk when he said, "This feels very
>>>> cold."* We opened the box in the parking lot... what was in the box?
>>>> Frozen solid food. A frozen *uncooked* turkey. Frozen everything
>>>> side dishes. With instructions on how to cook all of it.
>>>>
>>>> The television ads (I remember them) made it sound like it would be
>>>> a fully cooked meal. Just bring it home and plate it. It definitely
>>>> was not that.
>>>>
>>>> I have rarely seen my mother display anger in public but she did on
>>>> that day. She told my brother to grab the box and she marched back
>>>> into the store. I was trailing behind thinking "Uh oh." LOL She gave
>>>> the store manager what for. She cited false advertising. She asked
>>>> what the heck was she supposed to do with this box of frozen solid
>>>> uncooked food? At Noon. On Thanksgiving. She demanded and got her
>>>> money back.
>>>>
>>>> A cautionary tale based in reality.
>>>>
>>>> We went to another grocery store and bought some NY strip steaks and
>>>> russet potatoes. We had broiled steaks and baked potatoes for
>>>> Thanksgiving dinner that year. :)
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>>
>>> Damn, I would have been ****ed too! I have ordered hams and things,
>>> and have been tempted to order a pre-cooked holiday meal when just
>>> the two of us, but never have. I assume that they are fully cooked. LOL
>>>
>>> Cheri

>>
>> It certainly came as a surprise!* In retrospect, I wonder how they
>> were supposed to have cooked it?* AFAIK grocery stores in the 1970's
>> didn't have the equipment.* They didn't sell rotisserie or fried
>> chicken, didn't have in-house bakeries.
>>
>> I felt a bit sorry for the manager.* I doubt he had any control over
>> the corporate advertising.* For all he knew she was planning to cook
>> it the following weekend, plenty of time to thaw out the turkey and
>> containers of side dishes.
>>
>> Jill

>
>
> True, but how much trouble would it have been to list it frozen, ready
> to cook?
>
> Cheri


Oh I agree with you. I do remember the ads (television, maybe some
newspaper inserts) showing a beautifully cooked meal. "Let Kroger do it
for you!" Do what? Put frozen uncooked food in a box? The entire
premise of the ad was misleading. But don't forget, this was in the
1970's. Was there truth in advertising? I don't blame Mom for being angry.

We (mom, dad, middle brother and I) didn't mind having steak & baked
potatoes for Thanksgiving dinner. In the dining room. We used Mom's
good china. :) Turns out Thanksgiving dinner isn't about a turkey. LOL

It gave us something to laugh about over the years. Remember the Kroger
Thanksgiving? LOL

I'm sure if my mother was here now she'd laugh about it. As it is, I'll
never forget how she let that man know exactly what she thought about
the Thanksgiving promotion.

I also remember a time around in the 1970's when she went to buy a new
car. She had been driving a five year old car, schlepping to and from
the Commissary on base to buy groceries. Sometimes having to take us
kids to school in bad weather. Dad decided she needed a new car.

I went car shopping with her. She found a new Chevy she liked. We went
into the office. She had just written out the check when the sales
manager said he'd have to call her husband to "get permission". I was a
nosy but informed teenager. I said, "She doesn't need permission!" Mom
pulled the check back and tore it up. We left.

When we got home, Dad asked, "Did you find a new car?" She told him all
about it. The salesman said she needed his permission. My father blew
his stack. He went into full Marine Colonel mode. LOL

Dad got the manager on the phone. He said "My wife does not need my
permission to buy anything! Her name is on the checking account. It's
a joint checking account. How dare you question her ability to buy a
car? We will be taking our business elsewhere." GO DAD!

An excuse the salesman offered for letting the business walk out the
door included me... he said I was "a loudmouthed teenager". All I did
was speak up when they said my mother needed her husbands "permission"
to buy a car.

Jill

jmcquown[_2_] 02-11-2018 05:04 PM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
On 11/2/2018 12:32 PM, wrote:
> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 10:24:43 AM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> I felt a bit sorry for the manager. I doubt he had any control over the
>>> corporate advertising. For all he knew she was planning to cook it the
>>> following weekend, plenty of time to thaw out the turkey and containers of
>>> side dishes.
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> True, but how much trouble would it have been to list it frozen, ready to
>> cook?
>>
>> Cheri
>>

> Yes, the manager probably had no control over corporate advertising but I
> bet the ad in the paper showed a beautifully browned turkey accompanied
> by some yummy looking sides.


Yes, that's exactly what it looked like!

> Just a few words added to the ad would have
> made all the difference in the world. "No preparation needed! Comes frozen
> ready to be cooked."
>

Yes, just a few extra words would have clarified it. Unfortunately they
didn't say that.

It's a funny fun Thanksgiving.

Jill

[email protected][_2_] 03-11-2018 12:58 AM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 6:33:46 PM UTC-5, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> My mother picked out a very nice Lincoln Mark
> IV and was ready to write the check. The salesman told her that they
> wouldn't accept it even if the dealership still had the car and
> waited for the check to clear the bank. Mom went straight to the bank
> and had them
> issue a certified bank check. When she returned to the dealer they
> initially refused to take that in payment, but after talking to the
> sales manager they reluctantly did accept that check.
>
>

Why were they reluctant to accept the certified bank check??

Ed Pawlowski 03-11-2018 01:21 AM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
On 11/2/2018 8:58 PM, wrote:
> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 6:33:46 PM UTC-5, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> My mother picked out a very nice Lincoln Mark
>> IV and was ready to write the check. The salesman told her that they
>> wouldn't accept it even if the dealership still had the car and
>> waited for the check to clear the bank. Mom went straight to the bank
>> and had them
>> issue a certified bank check. When she returned to the dealer they
>> initially refused to take that in payment, but after talking to the
>> sales manager they reluctantly did accept that check.
>>
>>

> Why were they reluctant to accept the certified bank check??
>


Fraud. There have been many instances of counterfeit bank checks the
past few years. When I close on the house it will have to be wire
transfer for the same reason.

jmcquown[_2_] 03-11-2018 01:59 AM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
On 11/2/2018 7:33 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Fri 02 Nov 2018 09:58:03a, jmcquown told us...
>
>> On 11/2/2018 11:23 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 11/1/2018 1:26 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> I've told this before but it is always good for a laugh. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One year in the mid 1970's my mother decided she didn't want
>>>>>> to cook Thanksgiving dinner. She kept seeing ads on television
>>>>>> from a nearby grocery store, Kroger. "Let Kroger Do It For
>>>>>> You!" All the work. All the side dishes. Just pick it up!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was before the Internet, folks. This was before Cable TV.
>>>>>> She saw ads on TV for local stores and store promotions. We
>>>>>> only got four television channels. CBS, NBC, ABC and PBS.
>>>>>> Local advertising.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She used the phone (OMG, a land line) and called the Kroger
>>>>>> supermarket in Bartlett, TN. Said she'd seen the ad. She
>>>>>> ordered a Thanksgiving dinner. Roast turkey, mashed potatoes,
>>>>>> dressing, gravy.Â* Two sides and a pie. To be picked up around
>>>>>> Noon on Thanksgiving day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My middle brother and I went with her to pick it up. My
>>>>>> brother was loading the box into the trunk when he said, "This
>>>>>> feels very cold."Â* We opened the box in the parking lot...
>>>>>> what was in the box? Frozen solid food. A frozen *uncooked*
>>>>>> turkey. Frozen everything side dishes. With instructions on
>>>>>> how to cook all of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The television ads (I remember them) made it sound like it
>>>>>> would be a fully cooked meal. Just bring it home and plate it.
>>>>>> It definitely was not that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have rarely seen my mother display anger in public but she
>>>>>> did on that day. She told my brother to grab the box and she
>>>>>> marched back into the store. I was trailing behind thinking
>>>>>> "Uh oh." LOL She gave the store manager what for. She cited
>>>>>> false advertising. She asked what the heck was she supposed to
>>>>>> do with this box of frozen solid uncooked food? At Noon. On
>>>>>> Thanksgiving. She demanded and got her money back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A cautionary tale based in reality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We went to another grocery store and bought some NY strip
>>>>>> steaks and russet potatoes. We had broiled steaks and baked
>>>>>> potatoes for Thanksgiving dinner that year. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Damn, I would have been ****ed too! I have ordered hams and
>>>>> things, and have been tempted to order a pre-cooked holiday
>>>>> meal when just the two of us, but never have. I assume that
>>>>> they are fully cooked. LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>> It certainly came as a surprise!Â* In retrospect, I wonder how
>>>> they were supposed to have cooked it?Â* AFAIK grocery stores in
>>>> the 1970's didn't have the equipment.Â* They didn't sell
>>>> rotisserie or fried chicken, didn't have in-house bakeries.
>>>>
>>>> I felt a bit sorry for the manager.Â* I doubt he had any control
>>>> over the corporate advertising.Â* For all he knew she was
>>>> planning to cook it the following weekend, plenty of time to
>>>> thaw out the turkey and containers of side dishes.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>>
>>> True, but how much trouble would it have been to list it frozen,
>>> ready to cook?
>>>
>>> Cheri

>>
>> Oh I agree with you. I do remember the ads (television, maybe
>> some newspaper inserts) showing a beautifully cooked meal. "Let
>> Kroger do it for you!" Do what? Put frozen uncooked food in a
>> box? The entire premise of the ad was misleading. But don't
>> forget, this was in the 1970's. Was there truth in advertising?
>> I don't blame Mom for being angry.
>>
>> We (mom, dad, middle brother and I) didn't mind having steak &
>> baked potatoes for Thanksgiving dinner. In the dining room. We
>> used Mom's good china. :) Turns out Thanksgiving dinner isn't
>> about a turkey. LOL
>>
>> It gave us something to laugh about over the years. Remember the
>> Kroger Thanksgiving? LOL
>>
>> I'm sure if my mother was here now she'd laugh about it. As it
>> is, I'll never forget how she let that man know exactly what she
>> thought about the Thanksgiving promotion.
>>
>> I also remember a time around in the 1970's when she went to buy a
>> new car. She had been driving a five year old car, schlepping to
>> and from the Commissary on base to buy groceries. Sometimes
>> having to take us kids to school in bad weather. Dad decided she
>> needed a new car.
>>
>> I went car shopping with her. She found a new Chevy she liked.
>> We went into the office. She had just written out the check when
>> the sales manager said he'd have to call her husband to "get
>> permission". I was a nosy but informed teenager. I said, "She
>> doesn't need permission!" Mom pulled the check back and tore it
>> up. We left.
>>
>> When we got home, Dad asked, "Did you find a new car?" She told
>> him all about it. The salesman said she needed his permission.
>> My father blew his stack. He went into full Marine Colonel mode.
>> LOL
>>
>> Dad got the manager on the phone. He said "My wife does not need
>> my permission to buy anything! Her name is on the checking
>> account. It's a joint checking account. How dare you question
>> her ability to buy a car? We will be taking our business
>> elsewhere." GO DAD!
>>
>> An excuse the salesman offered for letting the business walk out
>> the door included me... he said I was "a loudmouthed teenager".
>> All I did was speak up when they said my mother needed her
>> husbands "permission" to buy a car.
>>
>> Jill
>>

>
> Back in the day my dad travelled extensvely. My mother's car was
> several years older than his and had historically diffcult problems.
> Talking on the phone to my dad, he told her to go out and trade in
> the car and buy a new one. She picked out a very nice Lincoln Mark
> IV and was ready to write the check. The salesman told her that they
> wouldn't accept it even if the dealership still had the car and
> waited for the check to clear the bank. Mom simply couldn't bother
> my dada bout this, so she went straight to the bank and had them
> issue a certified bank check. When she returned to the dealer they
> initially refulsed to take that in payment, but after talking to the
> sales manager they reluctantly did accept that check.
>

Amazing how one person's money was better than another. In each case,
should have been males/husbands rather that wives/mothers. With
legitimate bank checks. :) Male egocentricity from the good old days. Heh.

Jill

jmcquown[_2_] 03-11-2018 02:01 AM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
On 11/2/2018 8:58 PM, wrote:
> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 6:33:46 PM UTC-5, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> My mother picked out a very nice Lincoln Mark
>> IV and was ready to write the check. The salesman told her that they
>> wouldn't accept it even if the dealership still had the car and
>> waited for the check to clear the bank. Mom went straight to the bank
>> and had them
>> issue a certified bank check. When she returned to the dealer they
>> initially refused to take that in payment, but after talking to the
>> sales manager they reluctantly did accept that check.
>>
>>

> Why were they reluctant to accept the certified bank check??
>

Back in the day, women were not expected to transact their own banking,
much less go shopping and write a check for a car. Not without a
husband alongside!

Jill

jmcquown[_2_] 03-11-2018 02:26 AM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
On 11/2/2018 10:04 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Fri 02 Nov 2018 07:01:48p, jmcquown told us...
>
>> On 11/2/2018 8:58 PM, wrote:
>>> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 6:33:46 PM UTC-5, Wayne Boatwright
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My mother picked out a very nice Lincoln Mark
>>>> IV and was ready to write the check. The salesman told her that
>>>> they wouldn't accept it even if the dealership still had the car
>>>> and waited for the check to clear the bank. Mom went straight
>>>> to the bank and had them
>>>> issue a certified bank check. When she returned to the dealer
>>>> they initially refused to take that in payment, but after
>>>> talking to the sales manager they reluctantly did accept that
>>>> check.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Why were they reluctant to accept the certified bank check??
>>>

>> Back in the day, women were not expected to transact their own
>> banking, much less go shopping and write a check for a car. Not
>> without a husband alongside!
>>
>> Jill
>>

>
> My mother did a lot things she wasn't "supposed" to do. My dad
> totally approved and encouraged her and her independence.
>

So did my dad, which was the point of my anecdote. It was in the 1970's.
Women still were not expected to make such transactions on their own.

Jill

Ophelia[_16_] 03-11-2018 10:13 AM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 


"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 11/2/2018 8:58 PM, wrote:
> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 6:33:46 PM UTC-5, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> My mother picked out a very nice Lincoln Mark
>> IV and was ready to write the check. The salesman told her that they
>> wouldn't accept it even if the dealership still had the car and
>> waited for the check to clear the bank. Mom went straight to the bank
>> and had them
>> issue a certified bank check. When she returned to the dealer they
>> initially refused to take that in payment, but after talking to the
>> sales manager they reluctantly did accept that check.
>>
>>

> Why were they reluctant to accept the certified bank check??
>


Fraud. There have been many instances of counterfeit bank checks the
past few years. When I close on the house it will have to be wire
transfer for the same reason.

==

So how do you pay for such things? I can't remember the last time we wrote
cheques. We use our debit of credit cards for everything.



jmcquown[_2_] 03-11-2018 01:11 PM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
On 11/2/2018 11:43 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Fri 02 Nov 2018 07:26:15p, jmcquown told us...
>
>> On 11/2/2018 10:04 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Fri 02 Nov 2018 07:01:48p, jmcquown told us...
>>>
>>>> On 11/2/2018 8:58 PM, wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 6:33:46 PM UTC-5, Wayne
>>>>> Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My mother picked out a very nice Lincoln Mark
>>>>>> IV and was ready to write the check. The salesman told her
>>>>>> that they wouldn't accept it even if the dealership still had
>>>>>> the car and waited for the check to clear the bank. Mom went
>>>>>> straight to the bank and had them
>>>>>> issue a certified bank check. When she returned to the dealer
>>>>>> they initially refused to take that in payment, but after
>>>>>> talking to the sales manager they reluctantly did accept that
>>>>>> check.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Why were they reluctant to accept the certified bank check??
>>>>>
>>>> Back in the day, women were not expected to transact their own
>>>> banking, much less go shopping and write a check for a car. Not
>>>> without a husband alongside!
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>
>>> My mother did a lot things she wasn't "supposed" to do. My dad
>>> totally approved and encouraged her and her independence.
>>>

>> So did my dad, which was the point of my anecdote. It was in the
>> 1970's.
>> Women still were not expected to make such transactions on their
>> own.
>>
>> Jill
>>

>
> Maybe it had something to do with the fact that both our fathers were
> military men. Your dad of course was a career officer. My dad spent
> 9 years as an Army captain serving in the Aleutians during WWII.
>
> I recall my uncle, who was in the Air Force for 12 years, had very
> similar viewpoints concerning his wife.
>
> My mother had a post graduate degree in workld history and politics.
>
> Your mother had to be a very capable wife and homemaker given the
> frequent relocations and raising several children.
>

Yes! And she spent quite some time raising us by herself. The Marine
Corps, in their infinite wisdom, sent my dad to Okinawa when she was
pregnant with me. She already had my two little boys, aged 7 and 4 to
take care of. He served two tours in Vietnam, leaving her stateside
with the three of us. She had to be self-sufficient!

Jill

Ed Pawlowski[_5_] 03-11-2018 03:11 PM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
On 11/3/2018 6:13 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Ed Pawlowski"Â* wrote in message ...
>
> On 11/2/2018 8:58 PM, wrote:
>> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 6:33:46 PM UTC-5, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>
>>> My mother picked out a very nice Lincoln Mark
>>> IV and was ready to write the check.Â* The salesman told her that they
>>> wouldn't accept it even if the dealership still had the car and
>>> waited for the check to clear the bank.Â* Mom went straight to the bank
>>> and had them
>>> issue a certified bank check.Â* When she returned to the dealer they
>>> initially refused to take that in payment, but after talking to the
>>> sales manager they reluctantly did accept that check.
>>>
>>>

>> Why were they reluctant to accept the certified bank check??
>>

>
> Fraud.Â* There have been many instances of counterfeit bank checks the
> past few years.Â* When I close on the house it will have to be wire
> transfer for the same reason.
>
> ==
>
> So how do you pay for such things?Â*Â* I can't remember the last time we
> wrote cheques. We use our debit of credit cards for everything.
>
>

I use cash for anything under about $50 to $100 and credit card above
that. Buying a house involves much more that what anyone would carry in
cash or credit limit on a card.

Cindy Hamilton[_2_] 03-11-2018 03:59 PM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 11:11:10 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/3/2018 6:13 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> >
> > "Ed Pawlowski"Â* wrote in message ...
> >
> > On 11/2/2018 8:58 PM, wrote:
> >> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 6:33:46 PM UTC-5, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> >>>
> >>> My mother picked out a very nice Lincoln Mark
> >>> IV and was ready to write the check.Â* The salesman told her that they
> >>> wouldn't accept it even if the dealership still had the car and
> >>> waited for the check to clear the bank.Â* Mom went straight to the bank
> >>> and had them
> >>> issue a certified bank check.Â* When she returned to the dealer they
> >>> initially refused to take that in payment, but after talking to the
> >>> sales manager they reluctantly did accept that check.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Why were they reluctant to accept the certified bank check??
> >>

> >
> > Fraud.Â* There have been many instances of counterfeit bank checks the
> > past few years.Â* When I close on the house it will have to be wire
> > transfer for the same reason.
> >
> > ==
> >
> > So how do you pay for such things?Â*Â* I can't remember the last time we
> > wrote cheques. We use our debit of credit cards for everything.
> >
> >

> I use cash for anything under about $50 to $100 and credit card above
> that. Buying a house involves much more that what anyone would carry in
> cash or credit limit on a card.


I tried to put a car purchase on my credit card (think of the points!)
but the dealership wouldn't go for it. They did take a plain old
personal check, though.

Cindy Hamilton

Dave Smith[_1_] 03-11-2018 04:04 PM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
On 2018-11-03 11:59 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> I use cash for anything under about $50 to $100 and credit card above
>> that. Buying a house involves much more that what anyone would carry in
>> cash or credit limit on a card.

>
> I tried to put a car purchase on my credit card (think of the points!)
> but the dealership wouldn't go for it. They did take a plain old
> personal check, though.


They probably didn't want to have to lose a cut of the cost to the
credit card company. That would really cut into their profit.






Ed Pawlowski[_5_] 03-11-2018 04:06 PM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
On 11/3/2018 11:59 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 11:11:10 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 11/3/2018 6:13 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Ed Pawlowski"Â* wrote in message ...
>>>
>>> On 11/2/2018 8:58 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 6:33:46 PM UTC-5, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> My mother picked out a very nice Lincoln Mark
>>>>> IV and was ready to write the check.Â* The salesman told her that they
>>>>> wouldn't accept it even if the dealership still had the car and
>>>>> waited for the check to clear the bank.Â* Mom went straight to the bank
>>>>> and had them
>>>>> issue a certified bank check.Â* When she returned to the dealer they
>>>>> initially refused to take that in payment, but after talking to the
>>>>> sales manager they reluctantly did accept that check.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Why were they reluctant to accept the certified bank check??
>>>>
>>>
>>> Fraud.Â* There have been many instances of counterfeit bank checks the
>>> past few years.Â* When I close on the house it will have to be wire
>>> transfer for the same reason.
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> So how do you pay for such things?Â*Â* I can't remember the last time we
>>> wrote cheques. We use our debit of credit cards for everything.
>>>
>>>

>> I use cash for anything under about $50 to $100 and credit card above
>> that. Buying a house involves much more that what anyone would carry in
>> cash or credit limit on a card.

>
> I tried to put a car purchase on my credit card (think of the points!)
> but the dealership wouldn't go for it. They did take a plain old
> personal check, though.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

I can understand that. Probably would have cost him a grand or so in
charges.

Ophelia[_16_] 03-11-2018 04:11 PM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 


"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 11/3/2018 6:13 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>
> On 11/2/2018 8:58 PM, wrote:
>> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 6:33:46 PM UTC-5, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>
>>> My mother picked out a very nice Lincoln Mark
>>> IV and was ready to write the check. The salesman told her that they
>>> wouldn't accept it even if the dealership still had the car and
>>> waited for the check to clear the bank. Mom went straight to the bank
>>> and had them
>>> issue a certified bank check. When she returned to the dealer they
>>> initially refused to take that in payment, but after talking to the
>>> sales manager they reluctantly did accept that check.
>>>
>>>

>> Why were they reluctant to accept the certified bank check??
>>

>
> Fraud. There have been many instances of counterfeit bank checks the
> past few years. When I close on the house it will have to be wire
> transfer for the same reason.
>
> ==
>
> So how do you pay for such things? I can't remember the last time we
> wrote cheques. We use our debit of credit cards for everything.
>
>

I use cash for anything under about $50 to $100 and credit card above
that. Buying a house involves much more that what anyone would carry in
cash or credit limit on a card.

==

Of course!!! I wasn't talking about a house.

House sales go from the bank via a lawyer.


Ophelia[_16_] 03-11-2018 04:11 PM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 


"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...

On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 11:11:10 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/3/2018 6:13 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> >
> > "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On 11/2/2018 8:58 PM, wrote:
> >> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 6:33:46 PM UTC-5, Wayne Boatwright
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> My mother picked out a very nice Lincoln Mark
> >>> IV and was ready to write the check. The salesman told her that they
> >>> wouldn't accept it even if the dealership still had the car and
> >>> waited for the check to clear the bank. Mom went straight to the bank
> >>> and had them
> >>> issue a certified bank check. When she returned to the dealer they
> >>> initially refused to take that in payment, but after talking to the
> >>> sales manager they reluctantly did accept that check.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Why were they reluctant to accept the certified bank check??
> >>

> >
> > Fraud. There have been many instances of counterfeit bank checks the
> > past few years. When I close on the house it will have to be wire
> > transfer for the same reason.
> >
> > ==
> >
> > So how do you pay for such things? I can't remember the last time we
> > wrote cheques. We use our debit of credit cards for everything.
> >
> >

> I use cash for anything under about $50 to $100 and credit card above
> that. Buying a house involves much more that what anyone would carry in
> cash or credit limit on a card.


I tried to put a car purchase on my credit card (think of the points!)
but the dealership wouldn't go for it. They did take a plain old
personal check, though.

Cindy Hamilton

==

I saw a notice in a supermarket stating they no long accepted cheques!



notbob 03-11-2018 04:57 PM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
On 11/3/2018 10:06 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/3/2018 11:59 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 11:11:10 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 11/3/2018 6:13 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Ed Pawlowski"Â* wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> On 11/2/2018 8:58 PM, wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 6:33:46 PM UTC-5, Wayne Boatwright
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My mother picked out a very nice Lincoln Mark
>>>>>> IV and was ready to write the check.Â* The salesman told her that they
>>>>>> wouldn't accept it even if the dealership still had the car and
>>>>>> waited for the check to clear the bank.Â* Mom went straight to the
>>>>>> bank
>>>>>> and had them
>>>>>> issue a certified bank check.Â* When she returned to the dealer they
>>>>>> initially refused to take that in payment, but after talking to the
>>>>>> sales manager they reluctantly did accept that check.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Why were they reluctant to accept the certified bank check??
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fraud.Â* There have been many instances of counterfeit bank checks the
>>>> past few years.Â* When I close on the house it will have to be wire
>>>> transfer for the same reason.
>>>>
>>>> ==
>>>>
>>>> So how do you pay for such things?Â*Â* I can't remember the last time we
>>>> wrote cheques. We use our debit of credit cards for everything.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I use cash for anything under about $50 to $100 and credit card above
>>> that.Â* Buying a house involves much more that what anyone would carry in
>>> cash or credit limit on a card.

>>
>> I tried to put a car purchase on my credit card (think of the points!)
>> but the dealership wouldn't go for it.Â* They did take a plain old
>> personal check, though.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>

> I can understand that.Â* Probably would have cost him a grand or so in
> charges.


Never --I repeat "NEVER"-- use a bank's "cashier's check"!

The last time I did, "my" bank claimed they had lost it. I went back to
the issuing bank (my late mom's) and they told me they did not have to
re-issue the check unless I purchased a "surety bond" that would have
cost me about 5 grand (the "cashier's check" was only for about 2
grand)! Later, the check in question was returned to me. Whew! ;)

nb

notbob 03-11-2018 05:03 PM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
On 11/3/2018 10:11 AM, Ophelia wrote:

> I saw a notice in a supermarket stating they no long accepted cheques!


Our's --here in C0-- gotta!

Otherwise, our medical cannabis dispensaries would go broke. How else
does one get "cash"? ;)

nb


Nancy2[_2_] 05-11-2018 02:47 AM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
Sounds like my mom's experience, and this was in the 80's! No excuses! She picked
out her new car, a VW, one that would be perfect for her trips to her parents' farm, helping
them, and doing her own other errands. When the salesman sat down with her to
talk about terms, he said, "Maybe you will want to bring your husband in to see the car
first."

So long to that dealership.

N.

Sanne 05-11-2018 12:55 PM

Just for Grins - A Thanksgiving Memory
 
Am Montag, 5. November 2018 03:47:55 UTC+1 schrieb Nancy2:
> Sounds like my mom's experience, and this was in the 80's! No excuses!
> She picked out her new car, a VW, one that would be perfect for her trips
> to her parents' farm, helping them, and doing her own other errands.
> When the salesman sat down with her to talk about terms, he said,
> "Maybe you will want to bring your husband in to see the car first."


"You mean if the foot space on the passenger's side is large enough for him?"

> So long to that dealership.


Yes indeed.

Bye, Sanne.



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