On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 18:04:19 -0400, wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:43:58 -0400, Nancy Young >
>wrote:
>
>>> Nothing more pure than rain water.

That's it.

>>Even acid rain?
>>
>>> I even used to collect it in buckets during a hard rain to water
>>> my vegetable garden. So much better than city water.
>>
>>I've thought of getting a rain barrel but never did.
>>
>>nancy
>
>A rain barrel is fine for watering plants but not good for
>consumption... rain water contains all sorts of chemicals and water in
>a barrel is stagnent so quickly becomes polluted with all sorts of
>organisms.

Half the Australian countryside lives off rain water. You have to be
aware of certain things, but otherwise it's better water than town
water.

*This was another misinformation brought to you by Sheldon the
Ignorant.*

On 2018-10-23 5:53 PM, wrote:

>> Your city water depends on more than one pump and electricity. So go
>> ahead and relax. (:
>>
>> jay
>>
> Well, I know my city has many, many pumps and filtration galore. But what I
> was referring to was I'm not in the predicament that Dave is in with wells
> running dry.
>

It's not a horrible predicament. I have two lines coming into the house,
one from the well and one from the cistern. When the well runs low I
switch over to the cistern. When the cistern gets low and there is no
rain in the forecast I call the water trucking business. Living only two
miles from the pumping station I can have a load of water delivered
withing 24 hours. I only needed to buy one load (2500 gal) last year.
That cost me $80, so that was my water bill for the year.

On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 5:36:49 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Living only two
> miles from the pumping station I can have a load of water delivered
> withing 24 hours. I only needed to buy one load (2500 gal) last year.
> That cost me $80, so that was my water bill for the year.
>
Not a bad price at all for that much water. How long, with normal usage,
would 2500 gallons last you?

On 2018-10-23 6:49 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 5:36:49 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> Living only two
>> miles from the pumping station I can have a load of water delivered
>> withing 24 hours. I only needed to buy one load (2500 gal) last year.
>> That cost me $80, so that was my water bill for the year.
>>
> Not a bad price at all for that much water. How long, with normal usage,
> would 2500 gallons last you?


It was pretty dry here throughout the spring and summer so I switched
over to the cistern in early June. I had the water delivered in late
August so we had almost three months out of that, and it is the only
water I had to buy this year. Over the years I have lived here I have
probably averaged buying only one load per year.

In article >, says...
>
> On 23-Oct-2018, wrote:
>
> > On Monday, October 22, 2018 at 10:02:37 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > ??? Getting your water from a well does not mean we have to drop a pail
> > >
> > > in a hole for water. There is a 1-1/4 line into the well and an
> > > electrically powered pump and water pressure system. The tank has a
> > > pressure sensitive switch that keeps the pressure within the low and
> > > high settings. If the power is out there is no pump.
> > >
> > Dropping a pail is the only kind of well I've had experience with. But
> > depending on a pump and electricity for water makes me glad I live in the
> > city.
> My maternal grandparents had a well; but, no bucket dipping was required.
> Until rural electrification allowed the installation of an electric pump,
> they hand-pumped the water from the well.
> Similar to, but not exactly like:
> https://i.pinimg.com/736x/42/49/8d/4...e-antiques.jpg

My grandparents pump (shared with next door) was similar except it
stood over a stone trough. It's still there; the current owners have
planted the trough and made it into a trendy garden feature.


Janet UK

On 10/23/18 2:53 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/23/2018 4:45 PM, jay wrote:
>> On 10/23/18 2:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2018-10-23 2:53 PM, jay wrote:
>>>> On 10/23/18 11:06 AM, wrote:
>>>>> Â* But
>>>>> depending on a pump and electricity for water makes me glad I live
>>>>> in the
>>>>> city.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your city water depends on more than one pump and electricity. So go
>>>> ahead and relax. (:
>>>>
>>>
>>> A lot of towns and cities have water towers that store enough water
>>> to ensure a supply under pressure in case of an emergency.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Right but when it's empty you still need pumps and electricity.
>>
>> jay
>
> Our town has full capacity generator backup.Â* Not a problem.Â* Natural
> gas powered so no fuel worries either.

Depends on the disaster. Natural gas isn't a guarantee.

jay

On 10/23/2018 6:04 PM, wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:43:58 -0400, Nancy Young >
> wrote:

>> I've thought of getting a rain barrel but never did.

> A rain barrel is fine for watering plants but not good for
> consumption...

I would never think to drink water from a rain barrel.

>rain water contains all sorts of chemicals and water in
> a barrel is stagnent so quickly becomes polluted with all sorts of
> organisms. Nancy, you'd be much better off drinking pop or beer.

It would strictly be fore watering the gardens.
> I
> don't buy bottled water for drinking, if I have to drink bottled I
> much prefer seltza. I figure half diet sprite and half vodka is
> pretty safe. I recently bought diet sprite cranberry, a loser.

That diet soda will kill you. I still drink it once in a while.
Knock wood I haven't had to use emergency water after any hurricanes
or noreasters. Only once had to boil my water, That's a pain in
the neck.

nancy

On 10/23/18 3:44 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-10-23 5:43 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2018-10-23 4:45 PM, jay wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> A lot of towns and cities have water towers that store enough water
>>>> to ensure a supply under pressure in case of an emergency.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Right but when it's empty you still need pumps and electricity.
>>
>> That's true, but they usually have enough in them to supply water
>> during power outages and emergencies. I imagine that they have backup
>> pumps.
>>
>
> Â* Oops...Â* I meant back up generators.Â* They can also use gas or diesel
> pumps to supply the towers.

If available. No infrastructure is disaster proof. And delivery is only
one of the possible issues.

jay

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:07:49 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote:

>On 10/23/2018 6:04 PM, wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:43:58 -0400, Nancy Young >
>> wrote:
>
>>> I've thought of getting a rain barrel but never did.
>
>> A rain barrel is fine for watering plants but not good for
>> consumption...
>
>I would never think to drink water from a rain barrel.
>
>>rain water contains all sorts of chemicals and water in
>> a barrel is stagnent so quickly becomes polluted with all sorts of
>> organisms. Nancy, you'd be much better off drinking pop or beer.
>
>It would strictly be fore watering the gardens.
>> I
>> don't buy bottled water for drinking, if I have to drink bottled I
>> much prefer seltza. I figure half diet sprite and half vodka is
>> pretty safe. I recently bought diet sprite cranberry, a loser.
>
>That diet soda will kill you. I still drink it once in a while.
>Knock wood I haven't had to use emergency water after any hurricanes
>or noreasters. Only once had to boil my water, That's a pain in
>the neck.
>
>nancy

We don't have municipal water, we have our own wells, we have two
wells. The one for our house uses a UV lamp to kill organisms and
then the water for drinking goes through the RO filter. The rest of
the water used for bathing/washing goes through the water softener.
The second well produces twice the volume (~20 gallons per minute) but
it's substantially harder water, used for watering plants and washing
vehicals. We also have some natural water sources on this property,
there are two natural springs and a we have a creek, contains all
sorts of critters; fish, frogs, etc. Lots of wildlife drinks at the
creek and also hunt fish, frogs, etc.

On 10/24/18 11:12 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 24 Oct 2018 07:00:04a, jay told us...
>
>> On 10/23/18 2:53 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 10/23/2018 4:45 PM, jay wrote:
>>>> On 10/23/18 2:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-10-23 2:53 PM, jay wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/23/18 11:06 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>> ÂÂ* But
>>>>>>> depending on a pump and electricity for water makes me glad I
>>>>>>> live in the
>>>>>>> city.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your city water depends on more than one pump and electricity.
>>>>>> So go ahead and relax. (:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A lot of towns and cities have water towers that store enough
>>>>> water to ensure a supply under pressure in case of an
>>>>> emergency.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Right but when it's empty you still need pumps and electricity.
>>>>
>>>> jay
>>>
>>> Our town has full capacity generator backup.ÂÂ* Not a problem.Â
>>> Natural gas powered so no fuel worries either.
>>
>> Depends on the disaster. Natural gas isn't a guarantee.
>>
>> jay
>
> Is anything?
>

Only the usual two things.. taxes and death. (:

Some of the current natural disasters are sadly setting records for
level of destruction.

The whole City of Austin, TX (~ 1 million population) which started this
discussion, has never had a boil water directive for the entire city.

jay

Janet wrote:
>
> Our previous place had a shared private water supply that ocasionally
> ran out for assorted reasons (always different, and as the fault might
> lie anywhere across a mile of wild moorland, it took time and ingenuity
> to identify locate and fix, which we had to do ourselves because no
> contractor would even consider taking it on.
> We had water butts filled by rain from roof, which we used for
> flushing lavs and washing when the pipeline failed. If the butts ran dry
> we fetched water in buckets from the river. My next door neighbour's
> sole source of water, for everything, was buckets from the river. He'd
> lived like that all his life and was fit and well so I was happy to
> drink boiled river water.
> In my teens we lived with my grandfather who also had a rural house
> with zero plumbing (my Grandmother raised 7 kids and never had a tap,
> washing machine or a flush lav in her life). It all came in buckets
> fetched from a communal shared hand pump in the garden. Useful
> experience for when our own water system packed in; I can bathe myself
> (and children) standing in a plastic washing up bowl. I did the laundry
> outside by hand in a tin tub and everybody wore their pants for two days
> then turned them inside out and wore them again.
> Here we're on mains public water supply (from boreholes) , what
> luxury. Rare service interruptions are for a couple of hours during
> maintenance work, with advance warning so I can fill pans and a bath and
> have enough drining, cooking, and flushing water.
>
> When I turn on a tap and clean hot water comes out, I often think of my
> grandmother, who never had that experience.
>
> Janet UK.

Thanks for that interesting story, Janet. I enjoyed reading it.