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[email protected][_2_] 22-10-2018 04:48 PM

Citation, please? (WAS: Keepin' it simple)
 
On Sunday, October 21, 2018 at 9:39:14 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
> On 10/21/2018 12:12 PM, cshenk wrote:
>
> > Took me years to accept 'greens' as well because of
> > the high vinegar uses in the south. I actually love Mustard greens but
> > none of the southern USA preparations where the liquid is pretty much
> > just soaking them in vinegar.

>
> I've never had any type of "southern USA" greens (mustard, turnip or
> collard) that were literally soaked in vinegar. A splash or two of
> vinegar is added to the cooking water. Lemon juice would work just as
> well. It's mostly added to retain the colour of the greens as they cook
> down. :)
>
> I can't say I'm a "greens" expert but I never heard of soaking green
> leafy vegetables in vinegar. Doing so would certainly put me off
> wanting to eat them.
>
> Jill
>

I'm no expert on them either or the ways other people cook them but I've never seen or heard of anyone soaking or cooking them in vinegar. But 99% of the time a small cruet of vinegar is on the table if you want a splash on your cooked greens. It sounds counterintuitive but a few drops on top of a serving
of greens that seem overly bitter will mellow out the flavor.


Janet 22-10-2018 05:11 PM

Keepin' it simple
 
In article >,
says...
>
> On Monday, October 22, 2018 at 8:06:55 AM UTC-4, Janet wrote:
> > In article >,
says...
> > >
> > > "Brice" > wrote in message
> > >
> > > > Goulash is a Hungarian dish with stewed meat and paprika. But, of
> > > > course, that's before you guys perfected it and made it with
> > > > hamburgers :)
> > >
> > >
> > > There is Hungarian Goulash and American Goulash, of course ours is much
> > > improved. ;-)

> >
> > American goulash is as great as Trump and Spam.
> > Hungary and the rest of the world are just jealous.
> >
> > Janet UK

>
> Considering the etymology of "goulash" traces back to the Hungarian
> word for "herdsman", the real question should be:
>
> Is your goulash made out of real herdsmen?


Sounds like it's time for another shepherds pie thread.

Janet UK

[email protected] 22-10-2018 05:11 PM

Keepin' it simple
 
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 22:45:54 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Brice" > wrote in message
>
>> Goulash is a Hungarian dish with stewed meat and paprika. But, of
>> course, that's before you guys perfected it and made it with
>> hamburgers :)

>
>There is Hungarian Goulash and American Goulash, of course ours is much
>improved. ;-)


The only thing that makes Hungarian goulash Hungarian is paprika,
otherwise a goulash consists of any mixture of ingredients.
Even paprika isn't Hungarian, paprika is a New World ingredient.

Janet 22-10-2018 05:27 PM

Keepin' it simple
 
In article >, says...
>
> Janet wrote:
> >
> > In article >,
says...
> > >
> > > "Brice" > wrote in message
> > >
> > > > Goulash is a Hungarian dish with stewed meat and paprika. But, of
> > > > course, that's before you guys perfected it and made it with
> > > > hamburgers :)
> > >
> > >
> > > There is Hungarian Goulash and American Goulash, of course ours is much
> > > improved. ;-)

> >
> > American goulash is as great as Trump and Spam.
> > Hungary and the rest of the world are just jealous.
> >
> > Janet UK

>
> I am 25% Hungarian which is completely worthless info


Gary is short for Hungary? We should have guessed.

> The USA fixes or wants to fix everything in the world.
> That seems to be our biggest problem and why so many
> hate us.


We just wish you were better handymen and wouldn't keep leaving the
job half-finished and an awful mess for someone else to clean up.

> That said, don't screw with us too much...
> We still carry the biggest stick, like it or not. :)


Screwident Trump will probably drop it on your foot.

Janet UK



Terry Coombs 22-10-2018 05:46 PM

Citation, please? (WAS: Keepin' it simple)
 
On 10/22/2018 10:42 AM, l not -l wrote:
> On 22-Oct-2018, wrote:
>
>> On 10/21/2018 12:12 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Took me years to accept 'greens' as well because of
>>> the high vinegar uses in the south. I actually love Mustard greens but
>>> none of the southern USA preparations where the liquid is pretty much
>>> just soaking them in vinegar.

>> I've never had any type of "southern USA" greens (mustard, turnip or
>> collard) that were literally soaked in vinegar. A splash or two of
>> vinegar is added to the cooking water. Lemon juice would work just as
>> well. It's mostly added to retain the colour of the greens as they cook
>> down. :)
>>
>> I can't say I'm a "greens" expert but I never heard of soaking green
>> leafy vegetables in vinegar. Doing so would certainly put me off
>> wanting to eat them.

> In the part of western Kentucky where I was born and raised, it was not
> uncommon for a hearty splash of vinegar to be added to greens, by the one
> eating them. A practice that I continue to do often, but not always. I use
> pepper sauce, which is really just vinegar flavored by green Tabasco
> peppers; common brands are Frank's and Texas Pete's. I don't recall if
> there were peppers of some sort in the "table vinegar" of my youth, but I
> imagine so. There wasn't a lot of seasonings in the rural 1950s where I
> grew up; salt, pepper and smoked meat. In lean times, when seasoning meat
> was less available, some greens could use a little help with flavor. Or
> when the seasoning meat was too fatty, the vinegar cut the greasy mouthfeel.
> So, sometimes we used it, sometimes not; it was on the table for those who
> felt they needed it.
>

Just out of curiosity ... My wife's roots are in Hickman and surrounding
counties , did you grow up anywhere near there ?

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !


jmcquown[_2_] 22-10-2018 06:41 PM

Goulash (WAS Keepin' it simple)
 
On 10/22/2018 1:45 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "Brice" > wrote in message
>
>> Goulash is a Hungarian dish with stewed meat and paprika. But, of
>> course, that's before you guys perfected it and made it with
>> hamburgers :)

>
>
> There is Hungarian Goulash and American Goulash, of course ours is much
> improved. ;-)
>
> Cheri


LOL Growing up, I always thought of goulash as a stew. The first time
I was introduced to "American" goulash it appeared to be like home made
Chef Boyardee Beefaroni, baked in a casserole dish. Took me by surprise!

I was a guest for dinner with my then husband. I didn't say a word,
just ate it and said thank you. Not something I aspired to replicate.

I'd rather have a nice beef stew. :)

Jill

jmcquown[_2_] 22-10-2018 06:44 PM

Keepin' it simple
 
On 10/22/2018 12:11 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On Monday, October 22, 2018 at 8:06:55 AM UTC-4, Janet wrote:
>>> In article >,
says...
>>>>
>>>> "Brice" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> Goulash is a Hungarian dish with stewed meat and paprika. But, of
>>>>> course, that's before you guys perfected it and made it with
>>>>> hamburgers :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is Hungarian Goulash and American Goulash, of course ours is much
>>>> improved. ;-)
>>>
>>> American goulash is as great as Trump and Spam.
>>> Hungary and the rest of the world are just jealous.
>>>
>>> Janet UK

>>
>> Considering the etymology of "goulash" traces back to the Hungarian
>> word for "herdsman", the real question should be:
>>
>> Is your goulash made out of real herdsmen?

>
> Sounds like it's time for another shepherds pie thread.
>
> Janet UK
>

LOL Lamb is not in season here in North America. The cost would be
prohibitive this time of year. Besides, you know the answer to that
particular puzzle. ;)

Jill


Cheri[_3_] 22-10-2018 06:52 PM

Goulash (WAS Keepin' it simple)
 
"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/22/2018 1:45 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> "Brice" > wrote in message
>>
>>> Goulash is a Hungarian dish with stewed meat and paprika. But, of
>>> course, that's before you guys perfected it and made it with
>>> hamburgers :)

>>
>>
>> There is Hungarian Goulash and American Goulash, of course ours is much
>> improved. ;-)
>>
>> Cheri

>
> LOL Growing up, I always thought of goulash as a stew. The first time I
> was introduced to "American" goulash it appeared to be like home made Chef
> Boyardee Beefaroni, baked in a casserole dish. Took me by surprise!
>
> I was a guest for dinner with my then husband. I didn't say a word, just
> ate it and said thank you. Not something I aspired to replicate.
>
> I'd rather have a nice beef stew. :)
>
> Jill



I like it a lot, I use small sea shell pasta in mine with lots of meat, but
haven't made it for a long time. When I used to travel with my sis for a few
days at a time, I always made a pot of it for dh to eat while I'm gone, now
I would say...go get yourself some fast food or something. LOL

Cheri


Brice 22-10-2018 07:15 PM

Keepin' it simple
 
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 17:27:40 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, says...
>>
>> Janet wrote:
>> >
>> > In article >,
says...
>> > >
>> > > "Brice" > wrote in message
>> > >
>> > > > Goulash is a Hungarian dish with stewed meat and paprika. But, of
>> > > > course, that's before you guys perfected it and made it with
>> > > > hamburgers :)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > There is Hungarian Goulash and American Goulash, of course ours is much
>> > > improved. ;-)
>> >
>> > American goulash is as great as Trump and Spam.
>> > Hungary and the rest of the world are just jealous.
>> >
>> > Janet UK

>>
>> I am 25% Hungarian which is completely worthless info

>
> Gary is short for Hungary? We should have guessed.


It's his ex calling him. "Hun? Gary?"

[email protected] 22-10-2018 09:57 PM

Goulash (WAS Keepin' it simple)
 
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 10:52:55 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> On 10/22/2018 1:45 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>> "Brice" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>> Goulash is a Hungarian dish with stewed meat and paprika. But, of
>>>> course, that's before you guys perfected it and made it with
>>>> hamburgers :)
>>>
>>>
>>> There is Hungarian Goulash and American Goulash, of course ours is much
>>> improved. ;-)
>>>
>>> Cheri

>>
>> LOL Growing up, I always thought of goulash as a stew. The first time I
>> was introduced to "American" goulash it appeared to be like home made Chef
>> Boyardee Beefaroni, baked in a casserole dish. Took me by surprise!
>>
>> I was a guest for dinner with my then husband. I didn't say a word, just
>> ate it and said thank you. Not something I aspired to replicate.
>>
>> I'd rather have a nice beef stew. :)
>>
>> Jill

>
>
>I like it a lot, I use small sea shell pasta in mine with lots of meat, but
>haven't made it for a long time. When I used to travel with my sis for a few
>days at a time, I always made a pot of it for dh to eat while I'm gone, now
>I would say...go get yourself some fast food or something. LOL
>
>Cheri


That's called American Chop Suey... very popular during the '50s

Cheri[_3_] 23-10-2018 12:35 AM

Goulash (WAS Keepin' it simple)
 
> wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 10:52:55 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 10/22/2018 1:45 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>> "Brice" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> Goulash is a Hungarian dish with stewed meat and paprika. But, of
>>>>> course, that's before you guys perfected it and made it with
>>>>> hamburgers :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is Hungarian Goulash and American Goulash, of course ours is much
>>>> improved. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> LOL Growing up, I always thought of goulash as a stew. The first time
>>> I
>>> was introduced to "American" goulash it appeared to be like home made
>>> Chef
>>> Boyardee Beefaroni, baked in a casserole dish. Took me by surprise!
>>>
>>> I was a guest for dinner with my then husband. I didn't say a word,
>>> just
>>> ate it and said thank you. Not something I aspired to replicate.
>>>
>>> I'd rather have a nice beef stew. :)
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>>
>>I like it a lot, I use small sea shell pasta in mine with lots of meat,
>>but
>>haven't made it for a long time. When I used to travel with my sis for a
>>few
>>days at a time, I always made a pot of it for dh to eat while I'm gone,
>>now
>>I would say...go get yourself some fast food or something. LOL
>>
>>Cheri

>
> That's called American Chop Suey... very popular during the '50s



Not called American Chop Suey by anyone I know, always called goulash.

Cheri


cshenk 23-10-2018 12:42 AM

Keepin' it simple
 
Gary wrote:

> cshenk wrote:
> >
> > With PLENTY of leftovers for 2 more meals, we had about 2.5 cups of
> > rice and vegetable bean stew each and about 1-1.5 cups each of peach
> > pie due out of the oven shortly.

>
> "1-1.5 cups each of peach pie" lol
> Such a funny description of dessert, imo.
> Never seen that on a restaurant menu. heh heh
> Is that how you describe a slice of peach pie
> or did you make individual pies in ramekins,
> measured out exactly ?
>
> Ps - what was the weight in ounces or grams of all that? :-o
>
> ;)


No clue on weight, but it tasted great! Too bad you didn't get any but
we ate it all up. Sorry!


cshenk 23-10-2018 12:49 AM

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jmcquown wrote:

> On 10/22/2018 1:45 AM, Cheri wrote:
> >"Brice" > wrote in message
> >
> > > Goulash is a Hungarian dish with stewed meat and paprika. But, of
> > > course, that's before you guys perfected it and made it with
> > > hamburgers :)

> >
> >
> > There is Hungarian Goulash and American Goulash, of course ours is
> > much improved. ;-)
> >
> > Cheri

>
> LOL Growing up, I always thought of goulash as a stew. The first
> time I was introduced to "American" goulash it appeared to be like
> home made Chef Boyardee Beefaroni, baked in a casserole dish. Took
> me by surprise!
>
> I was a guest for dinner with my then husband. I didn't say a word,
> just ate it and said thank you. Not something I aspired to replicate.
>
> I'd rather have a nice beef stew. :)
>
> Jill


Grin, and first time I had it, if there was meat in there, it was hard
to find.
Either way, I said my version may not match the naming elsewhere.


cshenk 23-10-2018 12:53 AM

Citation, please? (WAS: Keepin' it simple)
 
jmcquown wrote:

> On 10/21/2018 12:12 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Took me years to accept 'greens' as well because of
> > the high vinegar uses in the south. I actually love Mustard greens
> > but none of the southern USA preparations where the liquid is
> > pretty much just soaking them in vinegar.

>
> I've never had any type of "southern USA" greens (mustard, turnip or
> collard) that were literally soaked in vinegar. A splash or two of
> vinegar is added to the cooking water. Lemon juice would work just
> as well. It's mostly added to retain the colour of the greens as
> they cook down. :)
>
> I can't say I'm a "greens" expert but I never heard of soaking green
> leafy vegetables in vinegar. Doing so would certainly put me off
> wanting to eat them.
>
> Jill


If your version is what I have had foisted on me for 50 years, sorry
but i do not like them.

U.S. Janet B. 23-10-2018 03:46 AM

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On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 16:35:46 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 10:52:55 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On 10/22/2018 1:45 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>> "Brice" > wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>> Goulash is a Hungarian dish with stewed meat and paprika. But, of
>>>>>> course, that's before you guys perfected it and made it with
>>>>>> hamburgers :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There is Hungarian Goulash and American Goulash, of course ours is much
>>>>> improved. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>> LOL Growing up, I always thought of goulash as a stew. The first time
>>>> I
>>>> was introduced to "American" goulash it appeared to be like home made
>>>> Chef
>>>> Boyardee Beefaroni, baked in a casserole dish. Took me by surprise!
>>>>
>>>> I was a guest for dinner with my then husband. I didn't say a word,
>>>> just
>>>> ate it and said thank you. Not something I aspired to replicate.
>>>>
>>>> I'd rather have a nice beef stew. :)
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>>
>>>I like it a lot, I use small sea shell pasta in mine with lots of meat,
>>>but
>>>haven't made it for a long time. When I used to travel with my sis for a
>>>few
>>>days at a time, I always made a pot of it for dh to eat while I'm gone,
>>>now
>>>I would say...go get yourself some fast food or something. LOL
>>>
>>>Cheri

>>
>> That's called American Chop Suey... very popular during the '50s

>
>
>Not called American Chop Suey by anyone I know, always called goulash.
>
>Cheri


I think American Chop suey is a term you find in the upper NE US.

Cheri[_3_] 23-10-2018 04:01 AM

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"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message

> I think American Chop suey is a term you find in the upper NE US.



Could well be.

Cheri

jmcquown[_2_] 23-10-2018 06:03 AM

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On 10/22/2018 7:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 10:52:55 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 10/22/2018 1:45 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>> "Brice" > wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>> Goulash is a Hungarian dish with stewed meat and paprika. But, of
>>>>>> course, that's before you guys perfected it and made it with
>>>>>> hamburgers :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There is Hungarian Goulash and American Goulash, of course ours is
>>>>> much
>>>>> improved. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>> LOL* Growing up, I always thought of goulash as a stew.* The first
>>>> time I
>>>> was introduced to "American" goulash it appeared to be like home
>>>> made Chef
>>>> Boyardee Beefaroni, baked in a casserole dish.* Took me by surprise!
>>>>
>>>> I was a guest for dinner with my then husband.* I didn't say a word,
>>>> just
>>>> ate it and said thank you.* Not something I aspired to replicate.
>>>>
>>>> I'd rather have a nice beef stew. :)
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>>
>>> I like it a lot, I use small sea shell pasta in mine with lots of
>>> meat, but
>>> haven't made it for a long time. When I used to travel with my sis
>>> for a few
>>> days at a time, I always made a pot of it for dh to eat while I'm
>>> gone, now
>>> I would say...go get yourself some fast food or something. LOL
>>>
>>> Cheri

>>
>> That's called American Chop Suey... very popular during the '50s

>
>
> Not called American Chop Suey by anyone I know, always called goulash.
>
> Cheri


I had to look it up but apparently some people do call macaroni with
ground beef in tomato sauce "American Chop Suey". It's certainly not
something I ever heard anyone call it. Goulash, yes, although I still
prefer the stew. ;)

Jill

U.S. Janet B. 23-10-2018 05:24 PM

Goulash (WAS Keepin' it simple)
 
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 01:03:03 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 10/22/2018 7:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 10:52:55 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 10/22/2018 1:45 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>>> "Brice" > wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Goulash is a Hungarian dish with stewed meat and paprika. But, of
>>>>>>> course, that's before you guys perfected it and made it with
>>>>>>> hamburgers :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is Hungarian Goulash and American Goulash, of course ours is
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> improved. ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL* Growing up, I always thought of goulash as a stew.* The first
>>>>> time I
>>>>> was introduced to "American" goulash it appeared to be like home
>>>>> made Chef
>>>>> Boyardee Beefaroni, baked in a casserole dish.* Took me by surprise!
>>>>>
>>>>> I was a guest for dinner with my then husband.* I didn't say a word,
>>>>> just
>>>>> ate it and said thank you.* Not something I aspired to replicate.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd rather have a nice beef stew. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I like it a lot, I use small sea shell pasta in mine with lots of
>>>> meat, but
>>>> haven't made it for a long time. When I used to travel with my sis
>>>> for a few
>>>> days at a time, I always made a pot of it for dh to eat while I'm
>>>> gone, now
>>>> I would say...go get yourself some fast food or something. LOL
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> That's called American Chop Suey... very popular during the '50s

>>
>>
>> Not called American Chop Suey by anyone I know, always called goulash.
>>
>> Cheri

>
>I had to look it up but apparently some people do call macaroni with
>ground beef in tomato sauce "American Chop Suey". It's certainly not
>something I ever heard anyone call it. Goulash, yes, although I still
>prefer the stew. ;)
>
>Jill


I can't remember what we called it, maybe American Spaghetti? We
didn't have it at my house but my friends did.

jmcquown[_2_] 23-10-2018 05:34 PM

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On 10/23/2018 12:24 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 01:03:03 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/22/2018 7:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 10:52:55 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 10/22/2018 1:45 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>>>> "Brice" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Goulash is a Hungarian dish with stewed meat and paprika. But, of
>>>>>>>> course, that's before you guys perfected it and made it with
>>>>>>>> hamburgers :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is Hungarian Goulash and American Goulash, of course ours is
>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>> improved. ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOLÂ* Growing up, I always thought of goulash as a stew.Â* The first
>>>>>> time I
>>>>>> was introduced to "American" goulash it appeared to be like home
>>>>>> made Chef
>>>>>> Boyardee Beefaroni, baked in a casserole dish.Â* Took me by surprise!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was a guest for dinner with my then husband.Â* I didn't say a word,
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> ate it and said thank you.Â* Not something I aspired to replicate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd rather have a nice beef stew. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I like it a lot, I use small sea shell pasta in mine with lots of
>>>>> meat, but
>>>>> haven't made it for a long time. When I used to travel with my sis
>>>>> for a few
>>>>> days at a time, I always made a pot of it for dh to eat while I'm
>>>>> gone, now
>>>>> I would say...go get yourself some fast food or something. LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>> That's called American Chop Suey... very popular during the '50s
>>>
>>>
>>> Not called American Chop Suey by anyone I know, always called goulash.
>>>
>>> Cheri

>>
>> I had to look it up but apparently some people do call macaroni with
>> ground beef in tomato sauce "American Chop Suey". It's certainly not
>> something I ever heard anyone call it. Goulash, yes, although I still
>> prefer the stew. ;)
>>
>> Jill

>
> I can't remember what we called it, maybe American Spaghetti? We
> didn't have it at my house but my friends did.
>

I honestly don't know. I never heard anything called "chop suey", not
even in my childhood. The only time I've heard that term is here. I
don't think I've ever heard the phrase American Spaghetti, either. <shrug>

Jill

[email protected][_2_] 23-10-2018 05:49 PM

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On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 11:34:55 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
> On 10/23/2018 12:24 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >
> > I can't remember what we called it, maybe American Spaghetti? We
> > didn't have it at my house but my friends did.
> >

> I honestly don't know. I never heard anything called "chop suey", not
> even in my childhood. The only time I've heard that term is here. I
> don't think I've ever heard the phrase American Spaghetti, either. <shrug>
>
> Jill
>

We didn't have it at my house either but it would be served in the work
cafeteria sometimes and at friends homes. It was always just called
macaroni, beef, and tomatoes.


Ed Pawlowski[_5_] 23-10-2018 06:53 PM

Goulash (WAS Keepin' it simple)
 
On 10/23/2018 12:34 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 10/23/2018 12:24 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 01:03:03 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/22/2018 7:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 10:52:55 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On 10/22/2018 1:45 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Brice" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Goulash is a Hungarian dish with stewed meat and paprika. But, of
>>>>>>>>> course, that's before you guys perfected it and made it with
>>>>>>>>> hamburgers :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is Hungarian Goulash and American Goulash, of course ours is
>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>> improved. ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOLÂ* Growing up, I always thought of goulash as a stew.Â* The first
>>>>>>> time I
>>>>>>> was introduced to "American" goulash it appeared to be like home
>>>>>>> made Chef
>>>>>>> Boyardee Beefaroni, baked in a casserole dish.Â* Took me by surprise!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was a guest for dinner with my then husband.Â* I didn't say a word,
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> ate it and said thank you.Â* Not something I aspired to replicate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd rather have a nice beef stew. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like it a lot, I use small sea shell pasta in mine with lots of
>>>>>> meat, but
>>>>>> haven't made it for a long time. When I used to travel with my sis
>>>>>> for a few
>>>>>> days at a time, I always made a pot of it for dh to eat while I'm
>>>>>> gone, now
>>>>>> I would say...go get yourself some fast food or something. LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>
>>>>> That's called American Chop Suey... very popular during the '50s
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not called American Chop Suey by anyone I know, always called goulash.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> I had to look it up but apparently some people do call macaroni with
>>> ground beef in tomato sauce "American Chop Suey".Â* It's certainly not
>>> something I ever heard anyone call it.Â* Goulash, yes, although I still
>>> prefer the stew. ;)
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> I can't remember what we called it, maybe American Spaghetti?Â* We
>> didn't have it at my house but my friends did.
>>

> I honestly don't know.Â* I never heard anything called "chop suey", not
> even in my childhood.Â* The only time I've heard that term is here.Â* I
> don't think I've ever heard the phrase American Spaghetti, either. <shrug>
>
> Jill


I think it is a regional thing. I know a few people in New England that
make American Chop Suey. a ground beef and pasta dish. Never heard of
it growig up in PA.

Cindy Hamilton[_2_] 23-10-2018 07:20 PM

Goulash (WAS Keepin' it simple)
 
On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 1:53:41 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/23/2018 12:34 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 10/23/2018 12:24 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 01:03:03 -0400, jmcquown >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 10/22/2018 7:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
> >>>> > wrote in message
> >>>> ...
> >>>>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 10:52:55 -0700, "Cheri" >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>> On 10/22/2018 1:45 AM, Cheri wrote:
> >>>>>>>> "Brice" > wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Goulash is a Hungarian dish with stewed meat and paprika. But, of
> >>>>>>>>> course, that's before you guys perfected it and made it with
> >>>>>>>>> hamburgers :)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> There is Hungarian Goulash and American Goulash, of course ours is
> >>>>>>>> much
> >>>>>>>> improved. ;-)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cheri
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> LOLÂ* Growing up, I always thought of goulash as a stew.Â* The first
> >>>>>>> time I
> >>>>>>> was introduced to "American" goulash it appeared to be like home
> >>>>>>> made Chef
> >>>>>>> Boyardee Beefaroni, baked in a casserole dish.Â* Took me by surprise!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I was a guest for dinner with my then husband.Â* I didn't say a word,
> >>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>> ate it and said thank you.Â* Not something I aspired to replicate.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'd rather have a nice beef stew. :)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jill
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I like it a lot, I use small sea shell pasta in mine with lots of
> >>>>>> meat, but
> >>>>>> haven't made it for a long time. When I used to travel with my sis
> >>>>>> for a few
> >>>>>> days at a time, I always made a pot of it for dh to eat while I'm
> >>>>>> gone, now
> >>>>>> I would say...go get yourself some fast food or something. LOL
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheri
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That's called American Chop Suey... very popular during the '50s
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Not called American Chop Suey by anyone I know, always called goulash.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheri
> >>>
> >>> I had to look it up but apparently some people do call macaroni with
> >>> ground beef in tomato sauce "American Chop Suey".Â* It's certainly not
> >>> something I ever heard anyone call it.Â* Goulash, yes, although I still
> >>> prefer the stew. ;)
> >>>
> >>> Jill
> >>
> >> I can't remember what we called it, maybe American Spaghetti?Â* We
> >> didn't have it at my house but my friends did.
> >>

> > I honestly don't know.Â* I never heard anything called "chop suey", not
> > even in my childhood.Â* The only time I've heard that term is here.Â* I
> > don't think I've ever heard the phrase American Spaghetti, either. <shrug>
> >
> > Jill

>
> I think it is a regional thing. I know a few people in New England that
> make American Chop Suey. a ground beef and pasta dish. Never heard of
> it growig up in PA.


I'm pretty sure my high school cafeteria (Michigan) called it goulash.
But I was a picky eater and generally avoided everything except the
cookies (made with government surplus butter).

Cindy Hamilton

jmcquown[_2_] 23-10-2018 07:27 PM

Goulash (WAS Keepin' it simple)
 
On 10/23/2018 1:53 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/23/2018 12:34 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 10/23/2018 12:24 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 01:03:03 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/22/2018 7:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 10:52:55 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> On 10/22/2018 1:45 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Brice" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Goulash is a Hungarian dish with stewed meat and paprika. But, of
>>>>>>>>>> course, that's before you guys perfected it and made it with
>>>>>>>>>> hamburgers :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is Hungarian Goulash and American Goulash, of course ours is
>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>> improved. ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LOLÂ* Growing up, I always thought of goulash as a stew.Â* The first
>>>>>>>> time I
>>>>>>>> was introduced to "American" goulash it appeared to be like home
>>>>>>>> made Chef
>>>>>>>> Boyardee Beefaroni, baked in a casserole dish.Â* Took me by
>>>>>>>> surprise!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was a guest for dinner with my then husband.Â* I didn't say a
>>>>>>>> word,
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> ate it and said thank you.Â* Not something I aspired to replicate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd rather have a nice beef stew. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like it a lot, I use small sea shell pasta in mine with lots of
>>>>>>> meat, but
>>>>>>> haven't made it for a long time. When I used to travel with my sis
>>>>>>> for a few
>>>>>>> days at a time, I always made a pot of it for dh to eat while I'm
>>>>>>> gone, now
>>>>>>> I would say...go get yourself some fast food or something. LOL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's called American Chop Suey... very popular during the '50s
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not called American Chop Suey by anyone I know, always called goulash.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>> I had to look it up but apparently some people do call macaroni with
>>>> ground beef in tomato sauce "American Chop Suey".Â* It's certainly not
>>>> something I ever heard anyone call it.Â* Goulash, yes, although I still
>>>> prefer the stew. ;)
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> I can't remember what we called it, maybe American Spaghetti?Â* We
>>> didn't have it at my house but my friends did.
>>>

>> I honestly don't know.Â* I never heard anything called "chop suey", not
>> even in my childhood.Â* The only time I've heard that term is here.Â* I
>> don't think I've ever heard the phrase American Spaghetti, either.
>> <shrug>
>>
>> Jill

>
> I think it is a regional thing.Â* I know a few people in New England that
> make American Chop Suey. a ground beef and pasta dish.Â* Never heard of
> it growig up in PA.


As I said, I've only ever heard of it here on RFC. No one in my family
(Ohio, Pennsylvania) ever called anything chop suey or American
Spaghetti. Then again, they didn't call a casserole made with macaroni,
ground beef and tomatoes "goulash". They simply didn't make such a thing.

Jill

Hank Rogers[_2_] 23-10-2018 08:55 PM

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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/23/2018 12:34 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 10/23/2018 12:24 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 01:03:03 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/22/2018 7:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 10:52:55 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> On 10/22/2018 1:45 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Brice" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Goulash is a Hungarian dish with stewed meat and paprika. But, of
>>>>>>>>>> course, that's before you guys perfected it and made it with
>>>>>>>>>> hamburgers :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is Hungarian Goulash and American Goulash, of course ours is
>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>> improved. ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LOL Growing up, I always thought of goulash as a stew. The first
>>>>>>>> time I
>>>>>>>> was introduced to "American" goulash it appeared to be like home
>>>>>>>> made Chef
>>>>>>>> Boyardee Beefaroni, baked in a casserole dish. Took me by
>>>>>>>> surprise!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was a guest for dinner with my then husband. I didn't say a
>>>>>>>> word,
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> ate it and said thank you. Not something I aspired to replicate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd rather have a nice beef stew. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like it a lot, I use small sea shell pasta in mine with lots of
>>>>>>> meat, but
>>>>>>> haven't made it for a long time. When I used to travel with my sis
>>>>>>> for a few
>>>>>>> days at a time, I always made a pot of it for dh to eat while I'm
>>>>>>> gone, now
>>>>>>> I would say...go get yourself some fast food or something. LOL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's called American Chop Suey... very popular during the '50s
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not called American Chop Suey by anyone I know, always called goulash.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>> I had to look it up but apparently some people do call macaroni with
>>>> ground beef in tomato sauce "American Chop Suey". It's certainly not
>>>> something I ever heard anyone call it. Goulash, yes, although I still
>>>> prefer the stew. ;)
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> I can't remember what we called it, maybe American Spaghetti? We
>>> didn't have it at my house but my friends did.
>>>

>> I honestly don't know. I never heard anything called "chop suey", not
>> even in my childhood. The only time I've heard that term is here. I
>> don't think I've ever heard the phrase American Spaghetti, either.
>> <shrug>
>>
>> Jill

>
> I think it is a regional thing. I know a few people in New England that
> make American Chop Suey. a ground beef and pasta dish. Never heard of
> it growig up in PA.


Well, Popeye sez goulash and chop suey are the same thing.

It must be true and that's the end of the discussion.



U.S. Janet B. 24-10-2018 07:47 AM

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On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 14:27:23 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 10/23/2018 1:53 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 10/23/2018 12:34 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 10/23/2018 12:24 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 01:03:03 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/22/2018 7:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 10:52:55 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> On 10/22/2018 1:45 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Brice" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Goulash is a Hungarian dish with stewed meat and paprika. But, of
>>>>>>>>>>> course, that's before you guys perfected it and made it with
>>>>>>>>>>> hamburgers :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is Hungarian Goulash and American Goulash, of course ours is
>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>> improved. ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LOL* Growing up, I always thought of goulash as a stew.* The first
>>>>>>>>> time I
>>>>>>>>> was introduced to "American" goulash it appeared to be like home
>>>>>>>>> made Chef
>>>>>>>>> Boyardee Beefaroni, baked in a casserole dish.* Took me by
>>>>>>>>> surprise!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was a guest for dinner with my then husband.* I didn't say a
>>>>>>>>> word,
>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>> ate it and said thank you.* Not something I aspired to replicate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd rather have a nice beef stew. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I like it a lot, I use small sea shell pasta in mine with lots of
>>>>>>>> meat, but
>>>>>>>> haven't made it for a long time. When I used to travel with my sis
>>>>>>>> for a few
>>>>>>>> days at a time, I always made a pot of it for dh to eat while I'm
>>>>>>>> gone, now
>>>>>>>> I would say...go get yourself some fast food or something. LOL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's called American Chop Suey... very popular during the '50s
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not called American Chop Suey by anyone I know, always called goulash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>
>>>>> I had to look it up but apparently some people do call macaroni with
>>>>> ground beef in tomato sauce "American Chop Suey".* It's certainly not
>>>>> something I ever heard anyone call it.* Goulash, yes, although I still
>>>>> prefer the stew. ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> I can't remember what we called it, maybe American Spaghetti?* We
>>>> didn't have it at my house but my friends did.
>>>>
>>> I honestly don't know.* I never heard anything called "chop suey", not
>>> even in my childhood.* The only time I've heard that term is here.* I
>>> don't think I've ever heard the phrase American Spaghetti, either.
>>> <shrug>
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> I think it is a regional thing.* I know a few people in New England that
>> make American Chop Suey. a ground beef and pasta dish.* Never heard of
>> it growig up in PA.

>
>As I said, I've only ever heard of it here on RFC. No one in my family
>(Ohio, Pennsylvania) ever called anything chop suey or American
>Spaghetti. Then again, they didn't call a casserole made with macaroni,
>ground beef and tomatoes "goulash". They simply didn't make such a thing.
>
>Jill


there are a ton of approaches to this dish all over the Internet,
church cookbooks, recipe exchanges. Probably even boxed versions.
There are local variations and one can see why it would be popular. I
think it is generally a stove top covered skillet dish. Wouldn't
Chili Mac be a version?
Janet US

Nancy Young[_9_] 24-10-2018 03:24 PM

Goulash (WAS Keepin' it simple)
 
On 10/24/2018 2:47 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 14:27:23 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:


>> As I said, I've only ever heard of it here on RFC. No one in my family
>> (Ohio, Pennsylvania) ever called anything chop suey or American
>> Spaghetti. Then again, they didn't call a casserole made with macaroni,
>> ground beef and tomatoes "goulash". They simply didn't make such a thing.


> there are a ton of approaches to this dish all over the Internet,
> church cookbooks, recipe exchanges. Probably even boxed versions.
> There are local variations and one can see why it would be popular. I
> think it is generally a stove top covered skillet dish. Wouldn't
> Chili Mac be a version?


That's what I was wondering. Neither of those were something we had,
growing up, I had no idea of this type of 'goulash' and never
heard of American chop suey.

Deprived childhood, I guess. Too bad I never heard of curried rice.
Oik.

nancy

U.S. Janet B. 24-10-2018 04:27 PM

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On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:24:01 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote:

>On 10/24/2018 2:47 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 14:27:23 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:

>
>>> As I said, I've only ever heard of it here on RFC. No one in my family
>>> (Ohio, Pennsylvania) ever called anything chop suey or American
>>> Spaghetti. Then again, they didn't call a casserole made with macaroni,
>>> ground beef and tomatoes "goulash". They simply didn't make such a thing.

>
>> there are a ton of approaches to this dish all over the Internet,
>> church cookbooks, recipe exchanges. Probably even boxed versions.
>> There are local variations and one can see why it would be popular. I
>> think it is generally a stove top covered skillet dish. Wouldn't
>> Chili Mac be a version?

>
>That's what I was wondering. Neither of those were something we had,
>growing up, I had no idea of this type of 'goulash' and never
>heard of American chop suey.
>
>Deprived childhood, I guess. Too bad I never heard of curried rice.
>Oik.
>
>nancy


I never heard of goulash as it is used in this thread. About 20 years
ago a man I was talking to was saying he was going home to make
goulash. I thought he meant Hungarian. As he explained his dish to
me it was clear that it was something else.. I still don't know what
'goulash' is. Is there a specific recipe for this or is it simply
cook's choice with ground beef, pasta and tomato sauce?
Janet US

Ophelia[_16_] 24-10-2018 04:31 PM

Goulash (WAS Keepin' it simple)
 


"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
...

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:24:01 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote:

>On 10/24/2018 2:47 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 14:27:23 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:

>
>>> As I said, I've only ever heard of it here on RFC. No one in my family
>>> (Ohio, Pennsylvania) ever called anything chop suey or American
>>> Spaghetti. Then again, they didn't call a casserole made with macaroni,
>>> ground beef and tomatoes "goulash". They simply didn't make such a
>>> thing.

>
>> there are a ton of approaches to this dish all over the Internet,
>> church cookbooks, recipe exchanges. Probably even boxed versions.
>> There are local variations and one can see why it would be popular. I
>> think it is generally a stove top covered skillet dish. Wouldn't
>> Chili Mac be a version?

>
>That's what I was wondering. Neither of those were something we had,
>growing up, I had no idea of this type of 'goulash' and never
>heard of American chop suey.
>
>Deprived childhood, I guess. Too bad I never heard of curried rice.
>Oik.
>
>nancy


I never heard of goulash as it is used in this thread. About 20 years
ago a man I was talking to was saying he was going home to make
goulash. I thought he meant Hungarian. As he explained his dish to
me it was clear that it was something else.. I still don't know what
'goulash' is. Is there a specific recipe for this or is it simply
cook's choice with ground beef, pasta and tomato sauce?
Janet US

==

This is the only one I know:

http://allrecipes.co.uk/recipe/1694/...n-goulash.aspx



Cheri[_3_] 24-10-2018 05:37 PM

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:24:01 -0400, Nancy Young >
> wrote:
>
>>On 10/24/2018 2:47 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 14:27:23 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:

>>
>>>> As I said, I've only ever heard of it here on RFC. No one in my family
>>>> (Ohio, Pennsylvania) ever called anything chop suey or American
>>>> Spaghetti. Then again, they didn't call a casserole made with
>>>> macaroni,
>>>> ground beef and tomatoes "goulash". They simply didn't make such a
>>>> thing.

>>
>>> there are a ton of approaches to this dish all over the Internet,
>>> church cookbooks, recipe exchanges. Probably even boxed versions.
>>> There are local variations and one can see why it would be popular. I
>>> think it is generally a stove top covered skillet dish. Wouldn't
>>> Chili Mac be a version?

>>
>>That's what I was wondering. Neither of those were something we had,
>>growing up, I had no idea of this type of 'goulash' and never
>>heard of American chop suey.
>>
>>Deprived childhood, I guess. Too bad I never heard of curried rice.
>>Oik.
>>
>>nancy

>
> I never heard of goulash as it is used in this thread. About 20 years
> ago a man I was talking to was saying he was going home to make
> goulash. I thought he meant Hungarian. As he explained his dish to
> me it was clear that it was something else.. I still don't know what
> 'goulash' is. Is there a specific recipe for this or is it simply
> cook's choice with ground beef, pasta and tomato sauce?
> Janet US
>
> ==
>
> This is the only one I know:
>
> http://allrecipes.co.uk/recipe/1694/...n-goulash.aspx


This is basically the one we make in our house, adding things we like or
taking away things we don't. There are many ways to make it.

https://www.gonnawantseconds.com/american-goulash/



U.S. Janet B. 24-10-2018 05:37 PM

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On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:31:46 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:24:01 -0400, Nancy Young >
>wrote:
>
>>On 10/24/2018 2:47 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 14:27:23 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:

>>
>>>> As I said, I've only ever heard of it here on RFC. No one in my family
>>>> (Ohio, Pennsylvania) ever called anything chop suey or American
>>>> Spaghetti. Then again, they didn't call a casserole made with macaroni,
>>>> ground beef and tomatoes "goulash". They simply didn't make such a
>>>> thing.

>>
>>> there are a ton of approaches to this dish all over the Internet,
>>> church cookbooks, recipe exchanges. Probably even boxed versions.
>>> There are local variations and one can see why it would be popular. I
>>> think it is generally a stove top covered skillet dish. Wouldn't
>>> Chili Mac be a version?

>>
>>That's what I was wondering. Neither of those were something we had,
>>growing up, I had no idea of this type of 'goulash' and never
>>heard of American chop suey.
>>
>>Deprived childhood, I guess. Too bad I never heard of curried rice.
>>Oik.
>>
>>nancy

>
>I never heard of goulash as it is used in this thread. About 20 years
>ago a man I was talking to was saying he was going home to make
>goulash. I thought he meant Hungarian. As he explained his dish to
>me it was clear that it was something else.. I still don't know what
>'goulash' is. Is there a specific recipe for this or is it simply
>cook's choice with ground beef, pasta and tomato sauce?
>Janet US
>
>==
>
>This is the only one I know:
>
>http://allrecipes.co.uk/recipe/1694/...n-goulash.aspx
>

I'm sorry I wasn't clear. I was inquiring about the American goulash.

Ophelia[_16_] 24-10-2018 06:02 PM

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"Cheri" wrote in message ...

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:24:01 -0400, Nancy Young >
> wrote:
>
>>On 10/24/2018 2:47 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 14:27:23 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:

>>
>>>> As I said, I've only ever heard of it here on RFC. No one in my family
>>>> (Ohio, Pennsylvania) ever called anything chop suey or American
>>>> Spaghetti. Then again, they didn't call a casserole made with
>>>> macaroni,
>>>> ground beef and tomatoes "goulash". They simply didn't make such a
>>>> thing.

>>
>>> there are a ton of approaches to this dish all over the Internet,
>>> church cookbooks, recipe exchanges. Probably even boxed versions.
>>> There are local variations and one can see why it would be popular. I
>>> think it is generally a stove top covered skillet dish. Wouldn't
>>> Chili Mac be a version?

>>
>>That's what I was wondering. Neither of those were something we had,
>>growing up, I had no idea of this type of 'goulash' and never
>>heard of American chop suey.
>>
>>Deprived childhood, I guess. Too bad I never heard of curried rice.
>>Oik.
>>
>>nancy

>
> I never heard of goulash as it is used in this thread. About 20 years
> ago a man I was talking to was saying he was going home to make
> goulash. I thought he meant Hungarian. As he explained his dish to
> me it was clear that it was something else.. I still don't know what
> 'goulash' is. Is there a specific recipe for this or is it simply
> cook's choice with ground beef, pasta and tomato sauce?
> Janet US
>
> ==
>
> This is the only one I know:
>
> http://allrecipes.co.uk/recipe/1694/...n-goulash.aspx


This is basically the one we make in our house, adding things we like or
taking away things we don't. There are many ways to make it.

https://www.gonnawantseconds.com/american-goulash/

==

You sound just like me. I take a recipe, remove what we don't like and add
things we do :)))






Ophelia[_16_] 24-10-2018 06:03 PM

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"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
...

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:31:46 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:24:01 -0400, Nancy Young >
>wrote:
>
>>On 10/24/2018 2:47 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 14:27:23 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:

>>
>>>> As I said, I've only ever heard of it here on RFC. No one in my family
>>>> (Ohio, Pennsylvania) ever called anything chop suey or American
>>>> Spaghetti. Then again, they didn't call a casserole made with
>>>> macaroni,
>>>> ground beef and tomatoes "goulash". They simply didn't make such a
>>>> thing.

>>
>>> there are a ton of approaches to this dish all over the Internet,
>>> church cookbooks, recipe exchanges. Probably even boxed versions.
>>> There are local variations and one can see why it would be popular. I
>>> think it is generally a stove top covered skillet dish. Wouldn't
>>> Chili Mac be a version?

>>
>>That's what I was wondering. Neither of those were something we had,
>>growing up, I had no idea of this type of 'goulash' and never
>>heard of American chop suey.
>>
>>Deprived childhood, I guess. Too bad I never heard of curried rice.
>>Oik.
>>
>>nancy

>
>I never heard of goulash as it is used in this thread. About 20 years
>ago a man I was talking to was saying he was going home to make
>goulash. I thought he meant Hungarian. As he explained his dish to
>me it was clear that it was something else.. I still don't know what
>'goulash' is. Is there a specific recipe for this or is it simply
>cook's choice with ground beef, pasta and tomato sauce?
>Janet US
>
>==
>
>This is the only one I know:
>
>http://allrecipes.co.uk/recipe/1694/...n-goulash.aspx
>

I'm sorry I wasn't clear. I was inquiring about the American goulash.

==

Ok:) I didn't know there was one:)


Cheri[_3_] 24-10-2018 06:10 PM

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Cheri" wrote in message ...


>> This is the only one I know:
>>
>> http://allrecipes.co.uk/recipe/1694/...n-goulash.aspx

>
> This is basically the one we make in our house, adding things we like or
> taking away things we don't. There are many ways to make it.
>
> https://www.gonnawantseconds.com/american-goulash/
>
> ==
>
> You sound just like me. I take a recipe, remove what we don't like and
> add things we do :)))


Yes, that's the best way to do it IMO, unless maybe you're making something
for the very first time and want to follow it exactly, which I almost never
do. :)

Cheri


Ophelia[_16_] 24-10-2018 06:30 PM

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"Cheri" wrote in message ...

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Cheri" wrote in message ...


>> This is the only one I know:
>>
>> http://allrecipes.co.uk/recipe/1694/...n-goulash.aspx

>
> This is basically the one we make in our house, adding things we like or
> taking away things we don't. There are many ways to make it.
>
> https://www.gonnawantseconds.com/american-goulash/
>
> ==
>
> You sound just like me. I take a recipe, remove what we don't like and
> add things we do :)))


Yes, that's the best way to do it IMO, unless maybe you're making something
for the very first time and want to follow it exactly, which I almost never
do. :)

Cheri

==

Even for the first time, I don't see the point in adding something we
*really* don't like <g>


Nancy Young[_9_] 24-10-2018 06:45 PM

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On 10/24/2018 11:27 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:24:01 -0400, Nancy Young >
> wrote:


>> That's what I was wondering. Neither of those were something we had,
>> growing up, I had no idea of this type of 'goulash' and never
>> heard of American chop suey.


> I never heard of goulash as it is used in this thread. About 20 years
> ago a man I was talking to was saying he was going home to make
> goulash. I thought he meant Hungarian. As he explained his dish to
> me it was clear that it was something else.. I still don't know what
> 'goulash' is. Is there a specific recipe for this or is it simply
> cook's choice with ground beef, pasta and tomato sauce?


It sounds like it would probably be a tasty meal and there are
probably as many recipes as people who make it.

nancy

U.S. Janet B. 24-10-2018 06:55 PM

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On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 09:37:37 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>
>> "U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:24:01 -0400, Nancy Young >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 10/24/2018 2:47 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 14:27:23 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> As I said, I've only ever heard of it here on RFC. No one in my family
>>>>> (Ohio, Pennsylvania) ever called anything chop suey or American
>>>>> Spaghetti. Then again, they didn't call a casserole made with
>>>>> macaroni,
>>>>> ground beef and tomatoes "goulash". They simply didn't make such a
>>>>> thing.
>>>
>>>> there are a ton of approaches to this dish all over the Internet,
>>>> church cookbooks, recipe exchanges. Probably even boxed versions.
>>>> There are local variations and one can see why it would be popular. I
>>>> think it is generally a stove top covered skillet dish. Wouldn't
>>>> Chili Mac be a version?
>>>
>>>That's what I was wondering. Neither of those were something we had,
>>>growing up, I had no idea of this type of 'goulash' and never
>>>heard of American chop suey.
>>>
>>>Deprived childhood, I guess. Too bad I never heard of curried rice.
>>>Oik.
>>>
>>>nancy

>>
>> I never heard of goulash as it is used in this thread. About 20 years
>> ago a man I was talking to was saying he was going home to make
>> goulash. I thought he meant Hungarian. As he explained his dish to
>> me it was clear that it was something else.. I still don't know what
>> 'goulash' is. Is there a specific recipe for this or is it simply
>> cook's choice with ground beef, pasta and tomato sauce?
>> Janet US
>>
>> ==
>>
>> This is the only one I know:
>>
>> http://allrecipes.co.uk/recipe/1694/...n-goulash.aspx

>
>This is basically the one we make in our house, adding things we like or
>taking away things we don't. There are many ways to make it.
>
>https://www.gonnawantseconds.com/american-goulash/
>

thank you! That is a wonderful explanation and good sounding recipes.
I never knew what went into the dish. I think I'll make the goulash
tonight as I am doing shopping today and ground beef is on the list.
thanks again
Janet US

Cheri[_3_] 24-10-2018 08:24 PM

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "Cheri" wrote in message ...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Cheri" wrote in message ...

>
>>> This is the only one I know:
>>>
>>> http://allrecipes.co.uk/recipe/1694/...n-goulash.aspx

>>
>> This is basically the one we make in our house, adding things we like or
>> taking away things we don't. There are many ways to make it.
>>
>> https://www.gonnawantseconds.com/american-goulash/
>>
>> ==
>>
>> You sound just like me. I take a recipe, remove what we don't like and
>> add things we do :)))

>
> Yes, that's the best way to do it IMO, unless maybe you're making
> something
> for the very first time and want to follow it exactly, which I almost
> never
> do. :)
>
> Cheri
>
> ==
>
> Even for the first time, I don't see the point in adding something we
> *really* don't like <g>
>



I wouldn't add it if we didn't like it, but there are some things that we
don't dislike that aren't really necessary in some recipes, so if I was
making it for the first time, I might use them, but not necessarily in
subsequent recipes.

Cheri


Ophelia[_16_] 24-10-2018 08:51 PM

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"Cheri" wrote in message ...

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "Cheri" wrote in message ...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Cheri" wrote in message ...

>
>>> This is the only one I know:
>>>
>>> http://allrecipes.co.uk/recipe/1694/...n-goulash.aspx

>>
>> This is basically the one we make in our house, adding things we like or
>> taking away things we don't. There are many ways to make it.
>>
>> https://www.gonnawantseconds.com/american-goulash/
>>
>> ==
>>
>> You sound just like me. I take a recipe, remove what we don't like and
>> add things we do :)))

>
> Yes, that's the best way to do it IMO, unless maybe you're making
> something
> for the very first time and want to follow it exactly, which I almost
> never
> do. :)
>
> Cheri
>
> ==
>
> Even for the first time, I don't see the point in adding something we
> *really* don't like <g>
>



I wouldn't add it if we didn't like it, but there are some things that we
don't dislike that aren't really necessary in some recipes, so if I was
making it for the first time, I might use them, but not necessarily in
subsequent recipes.

Cheri

==

Oh yes! That is definitely my way too <g> We know what we like, eh?

After all the years we have been cooking, experience counts for a lot:)




[email protected][_2_] 24-10-2018 08:57 PM

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On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 10:28:05 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> I still don't know what
> 'goulash' is. Is there a specific recipe for this or is it simply
> cook's choice with ground beef, pasta and tomato sauce?
> Janet US
>

I think you answered your own question. It's whatever the cook wants to
call their recipe. My co-worker would make 'goulash' and I knew it was
not the Hungarian dish but I never asked her what exactly she used as I
figured it would some mish-mash of something.


Ed Pawlowski[_5_] 24-10-2018 09:23 PM

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On 10/24/2018 3:57 PM, wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 10:28:05 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> I still don't know what
>> 'goulash' is. Is there a specific recipe for this or is it simply
>> cook's choice with ground beef, pasta and tomato sauce?
>> Janet US
>>

> I think you answered your own question. It's whatever the cook wants to
> call their recipe. My co-worker would make 'goulash' and I knew it was
> not the Hungarian dish but I never asked her what exactly she used as I
> figured it would some mish-mash of something.
>

Yep, one of those no recipe dishes. I make similar but without the
pasta, more like a sloppy Joe. Usually has cheese and leans towards a
pizza on a roll type of flavor.


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