On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 11:05:32 AM UTC-10, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
> Why wait? Other than relieving pain it has no affect. You can drive and
> even run a bulldozer while taking it. You have to get over the taste. It
> does not taste very good.
>
>
>
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> https://www.avast.com/antivirus

My friend has been using that hemp oil. He fell down on the job and has been using it for his injuries. I shall inquire on it's effectiveness.

I fell down in the kitchen yesterday. It created a big knot in my ankle a bump on my knee. I took a couple of ibuprofens and sprayed my leg down with some very hot water and went to bed. I was surprised when I woke up a short time later and found that the big lumps had gone down dramatically. This morning when I woke up the bumps were gone. It is most remarkable. I have some pain in the ankle but that will take a while to heal.

On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 11:09:14 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> https://tinyurl.com/yb5es76c

Culturally, he's only slightly blacker than I am. You or I could have moved to Chicago or NY in our late teens but that won't make us black - or would it?

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 11:09:14 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>> https://tinyurl.com/yb5es76c
>
> Culturally, he's only slightly blacker than I am. You or I could have
> moved to Chicago or NY in our late teens but that won't make us black - or
> would it?


Of course I did not write that, so "you" doesn't apply. I have no idea what
the link is because I don't ever click them on.

Cheri

On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 1:44:51 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>
>
> Of course I did not write that, so "you" doesn't apply. I have no idea what
> the link is because I don't ever click them on.
>
> Cheri

Believe me, you don't want to know!

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 1:44:51 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>>
>>
>> Of course I did not write that, so "you" doesn't apply. I have no idea
>> what
>> the link is because I don't ever click them on.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Believe me, you don't want to know!


I'm pretty sure of that. LOL

Cheri

On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 2:30:04 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>
>
> I'm pretty sure of that. LOL
>
> Cheri

You are a wiser person than I.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 11:05:32 AM UTC-10, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
> Why wait? Other than relieving pain it has no affect. You can drive and
> even run a bulldozer while taking it. You have to get over the taste. It
> does not taste very good.
>
>
>
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> https://www.avast.com/antivirus

My friend has been using that hemp oil. He fell down on the job and has been
using it for his injuries. I shall inquire on it's effectiveness.

I fell down in the kitchen yesterday. It created a big knot in my ankle a
bump on my knee. I took a couple of ibuprofens and sprayed my leg down with
some very hot water and went to bed. I was surprised when I woke up a short
time later and found that the big lumps had gone down dramatically. This
morning when I woke up the bumps were gone. It is most remarkable. I have
some pain in the ankle but that will take a while to heal.

==

Surprise indeed! I would never have thought of spraying it with hot water!

On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 5:05:32 PM UTC-4, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 10:38:08 AM UTC-4, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> >> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 5:00:35 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:36:25 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 09:32:27 -0400, Dave Smith
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >I had a late start this morning and was surprised that no one else
> >> >> >> >had
> >> >> >> >posted about the death of Anthony Bourdain.... by suicide. What a
> >> >> >> >tragedy. He was a very interesting guy.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/08/us/an...bit/index.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> That is unexpected. From an outsider's perspective, it seemed he
> >> >> >> had
> >> >> >> it all figured out.
> >> >> >> Janet US
> >> >> >
> >> >> >It wasn't on this morning's news but will probably be on this
> >> >> >evening's news. That is a shock to me. I suspect though that this
> >> >> >probably wasn't a "depression suicide." I suspect he might have
> >> >> >had some terminal health problem and he decided to end it quickly
> >> >> >rather than some lingering death. If that's the case, I'm with
> >> >> >him. Quality of life over quantity.
> >> >>
> >> >> Charles Krauthammer's doctors gave him three weeks to live (an
> >> >> agressive form ofcancer), Charles, a Psychiatrist, MD) likely thinks
> >> >> Anthony is a stupid douchebag and I have to agree. Life is too short
> >> >> as it is, only an uncaring shallow brained moroon makes it shorter.
> >> >> I have no pity for anyone who commits suicide, and they deserve no
> >> >> pity for leaving their family and friends with that horrendous burdon.
> >> >> Anthony Bourdain lived his life as a sspineless coward and deserves an
> >> >> unmarked grave. If only there was some way that Krauthammer could
> >> >> have claimed Burdain's unlived life. . . .
> >> >> Let's all erase Anthony Burdain's name from our memory... the useless
> >> >> putz left a young child to suffer the rest of her life with a heart
> >> >> breaking memory. I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PITY FOR "WHAT'S HIS NAME".
> >> >
> >> > My husband is in chronic pain, and opioids don't help much.
> >> > He's talked about committing suicide should the pain increase.
> >> > I said, "Do what you have to do." He's neither a coward nor
> >> > a wimp.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> CBD oil is a miracle and it has no addictive properties or hallucinogenic
> >> effects.
> >
> > Thanks for the recommendation. He'll probably try it after he retires.
> >
>
> Why wait? Other than relieving pain it has no affect. You can drive and
> even run a bulldozer while taking it. You have to get over the taste. It
> does not taste very good.

He has a security clearance. DoD is very weird about these things.

Cindy Hamilton

On 6/13/2018 6:28 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> You'd be surprised. U.S. natives almost universally use tines up
> and switch from left to right. Granted, it can be foolish to
> generalize over a country of 300 million, but the numbers really
> are overwhelming.

I thought this was interesting:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...3125 4912d5ba

or

https://tinyurl.com/y6v6vn8a

nancy

On 2018-06-13, Nancy Young > wrote:

> I thought this was interesting:

It is.

I never even knew that some Europeans used that particular fork/knife
combination (left/right, respectively). OTOH, I am always left with
that image from the film, Sexy Beast, where Ray Winestone holds his
fork/knife while cautiously conversing with Ian McShane (Teddy Bass)
and continually "crossing" (?) his kife/fork with each other. Now,
it's been explained. Thnx, Nancy.

nb

On 6/13/2018 6:28 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>
> I'm a little odd: tines up but no switching. I'm a southpaw, so
> everything I do is a little weird. Fork in the left hand and
> knife in the right.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Not odd at all. Wide and I are both lefties and do the same. Seem
silly to switch hands.

On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 10:04:55 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 6/13/2018 6:28 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm a little odd: tines up but no switching. I'm a southpaw, so
> > everything I do is a little weird. Fork in the left hand and
> > knife in the right.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
>
> Not odd at all. Wide and I are both lefties and do the same. Seem
> silly to switch hands.

Yet everybody else in my family switches, so I didn't learn it
from them.

I suspect it's because most lefties are somewhat ambidextrous
from living in a right-handed world, so it's comfortable to
use the knife with the off hand.

Cindy Hamilton

In article >,
says...
> On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 11:09:14 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> https://tinyurl.com/yb5es76c
>
> Culturally, he's only slightly blacker than I am. You or I could have moved to Chicago or NY in our late teens but that won't make us black - or would it?
>
> >
> > I'm pretty sure of that. LOL
> >
> > Cheri
>
> You are a wiser person than I.
>
Are you an NAACP member?

(National Association of Apes Called People)

On 2018-06-13 9:49 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2018-06-13, Nancy Young > wrote:
>
>> I thought this was interesting:
>
> It is.
>
> I never even knew that some Europeans used that particular fork/knife
> combination (left/right, respectively). OTOH, I am always left with
> that image from the film, Sexy Beast, where Ray Winestone holds his
> fork/knife while cautiously conversing with Ian McShane (Teddy Bass)
> and continually "crossing" (?) his kife/fork with each other. Now,
> it's been explained. Thnx, Nancy.
>

I remember seeing a WWII movie where someone is on the run from the
Germans and someone points out that he is switching his fork back and
forth. Maybe it was Counterfeit Traitor.

On 2018-06-13 10:07 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>
> I suspect it's because most lefties are somewhat ambidextrous
> from living in a right-handed world, so it's comfortable to
> use the knife with the off hand.
>


I wonder how many people pick up their table manners from the celebrity
chefs they see on Food Network Shows. Guy Fieri seems to be flustered
if he is eating something that cannot be wrapped up in some form of a
bun and crammed into his mouth. He has developed enough dexterity to
be able to push the food onto his fork with his fingers.

On 6/8/2018 2:49 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> The food writer revealed he had contemplated suicide several times.

Was it "contemplated" or "attempted"? I've heard it was the latter.

Ppl who have "contemplated" suicide are legion. Heck, I've
"contemplated" it, before, fer about half a nano-second. OTOH, my late
brother started talking about it, long before he "attempted" it
(succussfully, IMO). 8|

nb

On 2018-06-13 12:35 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 6/8/2018 2:49 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> The food writer revealed he had contemplated suicide several times.
>
> Was it "contemplated" or "attempted"?Â* I've heard it was the latter.
>
> Ppl who have "contemplated" suicide are legion.Â* Heck, I've
> "contemplated" it, before, fer about half a nano-second.Â* OTOH, my late
> brother started talking about it, long before he "attempted" it
> (succussfully, IMO).Â* 8|

I hate to disappoint some of you but I have never thought about
committing suicide. The limit of my contemplation would be to wonder why
anyone would do it. My oldest brother has been seriously depressed for
ages and made a few lame attempts, but so lame that they were more
likely just trying to get attention and sympathy. However, many people
contemplate it at some point, and many do it often. Some make feeble
attempts. The last time I checked on it I read that more men than women
commit suicide, but more women than men attempt it.

On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 9:48:13 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> ==
>
> Cool I've been trying to use them and that is the way I have been holding
> them
>
> I'm not very good though <g>

The hardest to use are round, skinny, metal, ones. The easiest chopsticks to use are the squarish disposable ones. I think in Hawaii, the people mostly use disposable chopsticks. Beats me if my grandkids will grow up using chopsticks.

On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 12:18:31 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 9:48:13 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> ==
>>
>> Cool I've been trying to use them and that is the way I have been holding
>> them
>>
>> I'm not very good though <g>
>
>The hardest to use are round, skinny, metal, ones. The easiest chopsticks to use are the squarish disposable ones. I think in Hawaii, the people mostly use disposable chopsticks. Beats me if my grandkids will grow up using chopsticks.

Go and have a look.

On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 9:50:55 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> Surprise indeed! I would never have thought of spraying it with hot water!

I've never done that before either. Using the hot water in addition to ibuprofen seems to have worked very well.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 9:48:13 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> ==
>
> Cool I've been trying to use them and that is the way I have been
> holding
> them
>
> I'm not very good though <g>

The hardest to use are round, skinny, metal, ones. The easiest chopsticks to
use are the squarish disposable ones. I think in Hawaii, the people mostly
use disposable chopsticks. Beats me if my grandkids will grow up using
chopsticks.

==

I suppose these are disposable. The are black plastic, square at one end,
and round and tapered at the other.

Do they sound ok to you?

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 9:50:55 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> Surprise indeed! I would never have thought of spraying it with hot
> water!

I've never done that before either. Using the hot water in addition to
ibuprofen seems to have worked very well.

==

Passed that info on to D. He uses Ibuprofen.

On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 9:27:17 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> I suppose these are disposable. The are black plastic, square at one end,
> and round and tapered at the other.
>
> Do they sound ok to you?

The disposable chopsticks are made from a soft wood like birch and sometimes bamboo. The bamboo ones are my favorite. The ones you have sound like non-disposable or semi-disposable. The ones we used while I was growing up was lacquered wood. That was the everyday chopsticks. We also had some fancy ones with some mother of pearl inlays but we never used those. Beats me why we had those.

As far as learning to use chopsticks, it's important to understand the mechanics of the system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkLMZF8Ufhg

On 6/13/2018 2:59 PM, dsi1 wrote:

> As far as learning to use chopsticks, it's important to understand the mechanics of the system.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkLMZF8Ufhg

I've been using (off/on) chopsticks fer about 20 yrs. Still haven't
mastered 'em.

This shows the differences between "Japanese/Chinese/Korean chopsticks,
but I couldn't find anything different for Vietnamese chopsticks. A
past friend of mine married a Japanese woman and began using chopsticks,
yrs ago. They both had a Japanese Bento take-out and the man (Anglo)
used his chopsticks in a Vietnamese fashion.

What is a Vietnamese fashion? Think of a pair of scissors. The
"target" (food) is picked up in the open "cross-stick" pattern that is
common in most Viet use. IOW, I thought this method was jes my buddy
using chopsticks in a way that suited him. THEN, I noticed most Viet's
at local Pho houses used this "cross-stick" method.

It may be that only "American-ized" Vietnamese use this "cross-stick"
method, but I've never seen a Viet using the "isosceles triangle" method.

nb

On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 9:29:54 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> ==
>
> Passed that info on to D. He uses Ibuprofen.

Most folks use it to relieve pain but I'll use it for its anti-inflammatory properties. This is important for the healing process. Sometimes I take it before I have any pain because I'm expecting it. By suppressing inflammation, it can prevent any pain in the future. That's a big help for an old body.

Ophelia wrote:

>
>
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 9:48:13 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > ==
> >
> > Cool I've been trying to use them and that is the way I have
> > been holding them
> >
> > I'm not very good though <g>
>
> The hardest to use are round, skinny, metal, ones. The easiest
> chopsticks to use are the squarish disposable ones. I think in
> Hawaii, the people mostly use disposable chopsticks. Beats me if my
> grandkids will grow up using chopsticks.
>
> ==
>
> I suppose these are disposable. The are black plastic, square at
> one end, and round and tapered at the other.
>
> Do they sound ok to you?

Chopsticks come in many types. The disposables are pretty much square
and a bit blocky.

In Japan, they are thin, round, and pointy. Often with a slight incut
to give a better grabbing surface at the eating end. Other places
slightly square the hand end which you reverse to lift food out of a
communal dish, then back again to eat from the rounder end. (the part
that touches your mouth never touches the communal dish serving from).

In Korea they as squared.

Yours in plastic are not disposables. They may be inexpensive, but
meant to the washed and reused.

On 6/13/2018 6:41 PM, Nancy Young wrote:

I would starve if I had to use them.

LOL!......

On 6/13/2018 6:21 PM, cshenk wrote:

> In Korea they as squared.
>
> Yours in plastic are not disposables. They may be inexpensive, but
> meant to the washed and reused.

Here's a breakdown on various chopsticks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyevVQ1Dubc

This has nothing to do with how they are used.

nb

I take hydrocodone regularly, for severe chronic back pain and SI joint pain. If I didn't have it,
I wouldn't be able to move. I take a conservative dose; I have tried every narcotic and non-narcotic
pain med available, including Fentanyl, and hydrocodone works better than anything else, although
it certainly doesn't make all the pain go away. Fentanyl patches made my skin break out underneath, and
itch, and didn't affect my osteoarthritic pain.

The absolute best painkiller for me, is Methylprednisolone...steroids in a six-day blister pack. But
those are worse for the body than narcotic painkillers, so I can't take them on a regular basis.

And, by the way, NONE of the drugs I have tried have made me foggy, dizzy, loopy, or have given
me any kind of reaction making me thick-headed and slow in reaction time.

Big Pharma needs to concentrate more on non-narcotic painkillers, and less on defending opioids,
and the media needs to quit with all the hysteria about the "horrible opioid crisis," so those of us
who have to take them in order to have even the barest quality of life can stop stressing over how
long it will be before our doctors are scared away from prescribing them.

N.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 9:27:17 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> I suppose these are disposable. The are black plastic, square at one
> end,
> and round and tapered at the other.
>
> Do they sound ok to you?

The disposable chopsticks are made from a soft wood like birch and sometimes
bamboo. The bamboo ones are my favorite. The ones you have sound like
non-disposable or semi-disposable. The ones we used while I was growing up
was lacquered wood. That was the everyday chopsticks. We also had some fancy
ones with some mother of pearl inlays but we never used those. Beats me why
we had those.

As far as learning to use chopsticks, it's important to understand the
mechanics of the system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkLMZF8Ufhg

==

Thanks very much

"notbob" wrote in message ...

On 6/13/2018 6:21 PM, cshenk wrote:

> In Korea they as squared.
>
> Yours in plastic are not disposables. They may be inexpensive, but
> meant to the washed and reused.

Here's a breakdown on various chopsticks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyevVQ1Dubc

This has nothing to do with how they are used.

nb

==

What is that on the end of the chopsticks at 3.08? That makes it seem as it
might make it easier.

"cshenk" wrote in message
...

Ophelia wrote:

>
>
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 9:48:13 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > ==
> >
> > Cool I've been trying to use them and that is the way I have
> > been holding them
> >
> > I'm not very good though <g>
>
> The hardest to use are round, skinny, metal, ones. The easiest
> chopsticks to use are the squarish disposable ones. I think in
> Hawaii, the people mostly use disposable chopsticks. Beats me if my
> grandkids will grow up using chopsticks.
>
> ==
>
> I suppose these are disposable. The are black plastic, square at
> one end, and round and tapered at the other.
>
> Do they sound ok to you?

Chopsticks come in many types. The disposables are pretty much square
and a bit blocky.

In Japan, they are thin, round, and pointy. Often with a slight incut
to give a better grabbing surface at the eating end. Other places
slightly square the hand end which you reverse to lift food out of a
communal dish, then back again to eat from the rounder end. (the part
that touches your mouth never touches the communal dish serving from).

In Korea they as squared.

Yours in plastic are not disposables. They may be inexpensive, but
meant to the washed and reused.

==

Thanks. I haven't used them for food yet I have been practicing picking
up smallish beans.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 9:29:54 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> ==
>
> Passed that info on to D. He uses Ibuprofen.

Most folks use it to relieve pain but I'll use it for its anti-inflammatory
properties. This is important for the healing process. Sometimes I take it
before I have any pain because I'm expecting it. By suppressing
inflammation, it can prevent any pain in the future. That's a big help for
an old body.

==

He agrees. He uses it the same way you do. I so something similar with my
Tramadol although I don't know if it is an anti-inflammatory.

On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 9:02:49 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> He agrees. He uses it the same way you do. I so something similar with my
> Tramadol although I don't know if it is an anti-inflammatory.

Obviously, a brilliant chap that thinks things through!

I made some chili tonight for my wife to take to work. I use a bottle of chopped garlic and dehydrated onions which allows me to rapidly whip up a batch. After I brown the ground beef, some flour and Korean chili pepper is sprinkled on it and fried up a bit. When that chili pepper hit the pan the air was choking with noxious compounds. I was afraid that my wife, who was upstairs, was going to wake up choking.

But she didn't, ha ha!

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...9NMBSofkBdkKHK

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 9:02:49 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> He agrees. He uses it the same way you do. I so something similar with
> my
> Tramadol although I don't know if it is an anti-inflammatory.

Obviously, a brilliant chap that thinks things through!

I made some chili tonight for my wife to take to work. I use a bottle of
chopped garlic and dehydrated onions which allows me to rapidly whip up a
batch. After I brown the ground beef, some flour and Korean chili pepper is
sprinkled on it and fried up a bit. When that chili pepper hit the pan the
air was choking with noxious compounds. I was afraid that my wife, who was
upstairs, was going to wake up choking.

But she didn't, ha ha!

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...9NMBSofkBdkKHK

==

I does look good but there is no way I would try it with all that hot spicey
stuff)

You were lucky your wife didn't react ... Very lucky ;-)

On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:58:43 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>I take hydrocodone regularly, for severe chronic back pain and SI joint pain. If I didn't have it,
>I wouldn't be able to move. I take a conservative dose; I have tried every narcotic and non-narcotic
>pain med available, including Fentanyl, and hydrocodone works better than anything else, although
>it certainly doesn't make all the pain go away. Fentanyl patches made my skin break out underneath, and
>itch, and didn't affect my osteoarthritic pain.
>
>The absolute best painkiller for me, is Methylprednisolone...steroids in a six-day blister pack. But
>those are worse for the body than narcotic painkillers, so I can't take them on a regular basis.
>
>And, by the way, NONE of the drugs I have tried have made me foggy, dizzy, loopy, or have given
>me any kind of reaction making me thick-headed and slow in reaction time.
>
>Big Pharma needs to concentrate more on non-narcotic painkillers, and less on defending opioids,
>and the media needs to quit with all the hysteria about the "horrible opioid crisis," so those of us
>who have to take them in order to have even the barest quality of life can stop stressing over how
>long it will be before our doctors are scared away from prescribing them.
>
>N.

I am glad you have found something to work for you, what it is matters
the least. I can't take anything opioid, neither could my father, so
I am lucky I have had to endure pain only after bone surgery. If it
was continuing, don't know what I would do.

I think people confuse the real pharmaceutical used drugs with what
fetches up on the streets, look alikes but often deadly. We had a
rash of addicted young people who had been prescribed some pretty
heavy stuff after sports injuries, I think the doctors have become
more cautious now in those cases, as they should be.

On 6/13/2018 10:58 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> I take hydrocodone regularly, for severe chronic back pain and SI joint pain. If I didn't have it,
> I wouldn't be able to move. I take a conservative dose; I have tried every narcotic and non-narcotic
> pain med available, including Fentanyl, and hydrocodone works better than anything else, although
> it certainly doesn't make all the pain go away. Fentanyl patches made my skin break out underneath, and
> itch, and didn't affect my osteoarthritic pain.

I'm sorry you have this pain.

> The absolute best painkiller for me, is Methylprednisolone...steroids in a six-day >blister pack. But
> those are worse for the body than narcotic painkillers, so I can't take them on a >regular basis.

That's what nearly killed me. I won't do those again.
> And, by the way, NONE of the drugs I have tried have made me foggy, dizzy, loopy, or have given
> me any kind of reaction making me thick-headed and slow in reaction time.
>
> Big Pharma needs to concentrate more on non-narcotic painkillers, and less on defending opioids,
> and the media needs to quit with all the hysteria about the "horrible opioid crisis," so those of us
> who have to take them in order to have even the barest quality of life can stop stressing over how
> long it will be before our doctors are scared away from prescribing them.

If only they'd start by shutting down the pill mills. Gee, this cllnic
orders more oxy than any 20 other doctors, how about we start here.

nancy

On 2018-06-14 7:12 AM, wrote:

>
> I am glad you have found something to work for you, what it is matters
> the least. I can't take anything opioid, neither could my father, so
> I am lucky I have had to endure pain only after bone surgery. If it
> was continuing, don't know what I would do.

I have used various pain killers in the past. Tylenol 2 or 3 for dental
problems, Oxycontin for broken collar bone, some heavy duty stuff in the
hospital after heart surgery. They were handy for taking the edge off
the pain, but I didn't like the side effects and I sure don't understand
the attraction some people have to them. When I broke ribs I had only
Tylenol 2 to be used in conjunction with Motrin. That combination was
quite effective and did not have the unpleasant side effects.


>
> I think people confuse the real pharmaceutical used drugs with what
> fetches up on the streets, look alikes but often deadly. We had a
> rash of addicted young people who had been prescribed some pretty
> heavy stuff after sports injuries, I think the doctors have become
> more cautious now in those cases, as they should be.

I got a very serious lecture from the pharmacist when I had Oxycontin
for the collar bone.

On 6/14/2018 2:37 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>
> I have never and would never take a street drug. Those who
> do usually don't have a reason for buying it. Personally, I feel if
> they do that an OD is their own fault and not my concern.
>

Give them Narcan one time. Tattoo their forehead that they had the
limit and next time they don't get any.

There was one here in CT that had to be dosed twice in one day. Your
tax dollars and insurance premiums at work.

Ophelia wrote:

>
>
> "notbob" wrote in message ...
>
> On 6/13/2018 6:21 PM, cshenk wrote:
>
> > In Korea they as squared.
> >
> > Yours in plastic are not disposables. They may be inexpensive, but
> > meant to the washed and reused.
>
> Here's a breakdown on various chopsticks:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyevVQ1Dubc
>
> This has nothing to do with how they are used.
>
> nb
>
> ==
>
> What is that on the end of the chopsticks at 3.08? That makes it
> seem as it might make it easier.

Actually not sure but I bet they make them harder to use. Then again,
I learned to use them fairly back towards the end and that would get in
my way.

It might be (looking again) a sliding chopstick rest? You rest the
eating end up on them when not in use.