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On Sat, 26 May 2018 07:52:41 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote: >On Sat, 26 May 2018 06:47:05 -0400, Gary > wrote: > >>"U.S. Janet B." wrote: >>> >>> "Cheri" wrote: >>> >Telling someone their religion is nonsense is not an opinion, it's an >>> >attack. >>> > >>> >Cheri >>> >>> Exactly. >>> Janet US >> >>You two are twisting my words again and are understandably >>resentful. >>I'm not proud of my outburst but 3 "ladies" here deserved it. >>Remember, you drew "first blood." >> >>Kick your friendly pet dog enough times and it will will bite you >>too. >>Don't then blame the dog for being evil. > >Get over yourself little man. The conversation has gone way past you >and your little remark. Other more intelligent people are involved in >a more broad concept now than -- what was it again that you said? Correct - it did cause me, at the time, to revise my opinion of Gary but he should not be surprised by that. |
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On Sat, 26 May 2018 10:03:21 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote: >On 5/26/2018 9:43 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: > >> trump has no control and no brain > >+1 > >nancy + 50 million |
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On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 2:14:31 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> > I have a severe grass allergy and am disabled so I need to hire someone to > do at least some of then yard work and climb ladders and such. > > What a shame that 'disability' does not include your fingers. |
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On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 8:39:45 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > On Sat, 26 May 2018 03:23:52 -0700, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > > >I can remember dining with Catholics who were > >offended that I ate meat on a Friday. Oh well. Methodists can eat what we > >want. We just don't drink. > > You must have had some really rude Catholic friends. I never had a > Catholic friend of mine even mention what I ate when we went out > together on Fridays. > Janet US > > Nor I. Sounds like yet another one of Julie's bullshit tales she's so fond of sharing. |
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Julie Bove > wrote:
> > "Gary" > wrote in message ... >> Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>> >>> On 5/25/2018 8:23 AM, Jinx the Minx wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> The food stamp crowd doesnâ?Tt use grandmomâ?"they get childcare >>>> subsidies to >>>> enroll their kids at the best daycares in town. >>> >>> That's a shame. Grandmom is usually better than the best daycare. >> >> The year my daughter was age 12-13 she thought she could stay >> alone while I worked but I didn't agree. I didn't want to leave >> her alone at that age. Luckily, my mom and dad moved here for a >> year and gramma took care of my daughter while I had to work. >> Going to gramma's that summer while I worked didn't seem like a >> babysitter to my daughter. It was perfect timing. Saved me lot's >> of money too. > Wow. I was babysitting at 12. > > So was I. |
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On 2018-05-26 12:12 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sat 26 May 2018 04:45:54a, Ed Pawlowski told us... >> Use of the term Sabbath mode has been made by manufacturers and >> does not always guarantee full compliance with religious >> requirements. Appliances sold with certification from a halachic >> certification authority will have been audited and judged to be >> compliant with that authority€„¢s requirement >> > > My electric range has a Sabbath mode but I've never needed or wanted > to use it. I'm aware of the practice of having a third party turning > on lights or appliances for someone who observes the Sabbath. I would have to say that is a pretty cheap trick. If they truly believe that the appliance should not be used in the Sabbath, it should not be used by anyone. If they really believe that they should not work on the Sabbath, they should not have servants or anyone else doing any work. |
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On 2018-05-25 8:58 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "Bruce" > wrote in message > >> Are you saying that "To each their own" also applies to religion? >> Can't we have an opinion about anything at all? That's hard! > > > Telling someone their religion is nonsense is not an opinion, it's an > attack. Telling someone they need religion and preaching at people is also an attack. Praying for non believers is, IMO, offensive. I used to work with a guy who had a serious religion problem. You could not have any sort of conversation with the guy without him bringing God and Jesus into it. He once had to have a meeting with our supervisor and some from HR and he wanted them to get down on their knees and pray with him before they started the meeting. |
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On Sat, 26 May 2018 07:49:50 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote: >On Fri, 25 May 2018 21:10:29 -0700, wrote: > >>On Fri, 25 May 2018 20:51:42 -0600, U.S. Janet B. > >>wrote: >> >> >>>>Telling someone their religion is nonsense is not an opinion, it's an >>>>attack. >>>> >>>>Cheri >>> >>>Exactly. >>>Janet US >> >>I'm NOT prejudiced, I hate ALL religions equally. >> >> >How about biologists or farmers or people like you? Should we hate >people like you? There ARE two types of people in the world. ME, and everyone else. |
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On 5/26/2018 12:09 AM, wrote:
> On Fri, 25 May 2018 20:50:29 -0600, U.S. Janet B. > > wrote: > >> On Fri, 25 May 2018 16:05:39 -0700, wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 25 May 2018 13:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton >>> > wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Most of those religious practices boil down to a way to >>>> identify who's in the tribe and who isn't. >>> >>> Religion is ALL about control. >>> >>> Giving control of a group over to a few NON-elected persons. >>> >> It seems to me that everyone everywhere should go back to a little >> control and respect. > > You WANT trumpian style control?????? > > > > Nobody was talking about Trump. Jill |
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On Sat, 26 May 2018 11:58:38 -0700, wrote:
>On Sat, 26 May 2018 07:49:50 -0600, U.S. Janet B. > >wrote: > >>On Fri, 25 May 2018 21:10:29 -0700, wrote: >> >>>On Fri, 25 May 2018 20:51:42 -0600, U.S. Janet B. > >>>wrote: >>> >>> >>>>>Telling someone their religion is nonsense is not an opinion, it's an >>>>>attack. >>>>> >>>>>Cheri >>>> >>>>Exactly. >>>>Janet US >>> >>>I'm NOT prejudiced, I hate ALL religions equally. >>> >>> >>How about biologists or farmers or people like you? Should we hate >>people like you? > > >There ARE two types of people in the world. > >ME, and everyone else. > LOL That is true of everyone |
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On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 7:19:54 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > Telling someone they need religion and preaching at people is also an > attack. Praying for non believers is, IMO, offensive. > > I used to work with a guy who had a serious religion problem. You could > not have any sort of conversation with the guy without him bringing God > and Jesus into it. He once had to have a meeting with our supervisor > and some from HR and he wanted them to get down on their knees and pray > with him before they started the meeting. Everybody has their own religion. It's either one of God/nature or it's the religion of themselves. Personally, I'd feel safer around people that believe that there's something bigger than themselves. |
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On Sat, 26 May 2018 07:52:41 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote: >On Sat, 26 May 2018 06:47:05 -0400, Gary > wrote: > >>"U.S. Janet B." wrote: >>> >>> "Cheri" wrote: >>> >Telling someone their religion is nonsense is not an opinion, it's an >>> >attack. >>> > >>> >Cheri >>> >>> Exactly. >>> Janet US >> >>You two are twisting my words again and are understandably >>resentful. >>I'm not proud of my outburst but 3 "ladies" here deserved it. >>Remember, you drew "first blood." >> >>Kick your friendly pet dog enough times and it will will bite you >>too. >>Don't then blame the dog for being evil. > >Get over yourself little man. The conversation has gone way past you >and your little remark. Other more intelligent people are involved in >a more broad concept now than -- what was it again that you said? And more pomposity. We have two winners: Wayne and Janet US. Mr and Mrs Pompous. |
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On Sat, 26 May 2018 07:47:39 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote: >On Fri, 25 May 2018 17:58:05 -0700, "Cheri" > >wrote: > >>"Bruce" > wrote in message . .. >>> Are you saying that "To each their own" also applies to religion? >>> Can't we have an opinion about anything at all? That's hard! >> >> >>Telling someone their religion is nonsense is not an opinion, it's an >>attack. >> >>Cheri > >I don't like labeling. All it does is identifies groups of people >that we can hate and abuse for no reason at all. Labeling makes >pulling a >knife and a taser on a couple of Egyptian Muslim exchange students >eating a McDonalds burger in their car just fine and dandy. >Janet US Can I label people as pompous, though? I promise I won't hurt them. |
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On Sat, 26 May 2018 09:43:47 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote: >On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 2:14:31 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> I have a severe grass allergy and am disabled so I need to hire someone to >> do at least some of then yard work and climb ladders and such. >> >> >What a shame that 'disability' does not include your fingers. So much hatred. There must be something wrong in your life. |
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On Sat, 26 May 2018 12:38:21 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote: >On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 7:19:54 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote: >> >> >> Telling someone they need religion and preaching at people is also an >> attack. Praying for non believers is, IMO, offensive. >> >> I used to work with a guy who had a serious religion problem. You could >> not have any sort of conversation with the guy without him bringing God >> and Jesus into it. He once had to have a meeting with our supervisor >> and some from HR and he wanted them to get down on their knees and pray >> with him before they started the meeting. > >Everybody has their own religion. It's either one of God/nature or it's the religion of themselves. Personally, I'd feel safer around people that believe that there's something bigger than themselves. Even though most violent crimes are committed by people who believe that. |
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On 5/26/2018 3:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> Everybody has their own religion. It's either one of God/nature or it's the religion of >themselves. Personally, I'd feel safer around people that believe that there's something >bigger than themselves. Because someone who thinks he's got a higher being wouldn't hurt anyone? nancy |
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Nancy Young wrote:
>dsi1 wrote: > >> Everybody has their own religion. It's either one of God/nature or it's the religion of >themselves. Personally, I'd feel safer around people that believe that there's something >bigger than themselves. > >Because someone who thinks he's got a higher being wouldn't hurt anyone? > >nancy That wou.ld be idiotic considering more people have been murdered in the name of religion than for all other reasons combined. |
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On 5/26/2018 4:17 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 5/26/2018 3:38 PM, dsi1 wrote: > >> Everybody has their own religion. It's either one of God/nature or >> it's the religion of >themselves. Personally, I'd feel safer around >> people that believe that there's something >bigger than themselves. > > Because someone who thinks he's got a higher being wouldn't hurt anyone? > > nancy Much snippage above, I don't know what dsi1 is talking about. I'm a nature lover but I don't worship nature. Seeing a lovely cloud or a rainbow doesn't make me ponder about a diety. I enjoy the moment. Might write or talk about it. That's about it. People who believe in "higher beings" often hurt other people. I call them religious fanatics. Jill |
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On 2018-05-26 3:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 7:19:54 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote: >> I used to work with a guy who had a serious religion problem. You >> could not have any sort of conversation with the guy without him >> bringing God and Jesus into it. He once had to have a meeting with >> our supervisor and some from HR and he wanted them to get down on >> their knees and pray with him before they started the meeting. > > Everybody has their own religion. It's either one of God/nature or > it's the religion of themselves. Personally, I'd feel safer around > people that believe that there's something bigger than themselves. I don't feel very safe around people who think it is their duty to convert or kill people who don't buy into their religion. I don't feel comfortable in a community where there are silly laws based on religious beliefs. There are simply too many different religions, each with their own Us vs. Them Good vs. Evil issues. |
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On Sat, 26 May 2018 17:09:48 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote: >On 5/26/2018 4:34 PM, wrote: >> Nancy Young wrote: >>> dsi1 wrote: >>> >>>> Everybody has their own religion. It's either one of God/nature or it's the religion of >themselves. Personally, I'd feel safer around people that believe that there's something >bigger than themselves. >>> >>> Because someone who thinks he's got a higher being wouldn't hurt anyone? > >> That wou.ld be idiotic considering more people have been murdered in >> the name of religion than for all other reasons combined. > >Plenty of murders have been committed by people who wouldn't dream of >missing church, and that doesn't even touch the fanatics who believe >it's their job to kill people because they have their God's blessing. Amen. |
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On Sat, 26 May 2018 17:16:16 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2018-05-26 3:38 PM, dsi1 wrote: >> On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 7:19:54 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote: > >>> I used to work with a guy who had a serious religion problem. You >>> could not have any sort of conversation with the guy without him >>> bringing God and Jesus into it. He once had to have a meeting with >>> our supervisor and some from HR and he wanted them to get down on >>> their knees and pray with him before they started the meeting. >> >> Everybody has their own religion. It's either one of God/nature or >> it's the religion of themselves. Personally, I'd feel safer around >> people that believe that there's something bigger than themselves. > >I don't feel very safe around people who think it is their duty to >convert or kill people who don't buy into their religion. I don't feel >comfortable in a community where there are silly laws based on religious >beliefs. There are simply too many different religions, each with their >own Us vs. Them Good vs. Evil issues. > The good news today was that Ireland has finally decided to change its abortion laws. When they went to interview the anti abortion side, it was a man who said it was a very sad day for Ireland - really!! It is interesting that the RC church is losing its thrall there, almost its last bastion. |
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Nancy Young wrote:
> On 5/26/2018 4:34 PM, wrote: >> Nancy Young wrote: >>> dsi1 wrote: >>> >>>> Everybody has their own religion. It's either one of God/nature or >>>> it's the religion of >themselves. Personally, I'd feel safer around >>>> people that believe that there's something >bigger than themselves. >>> >>> Because someone who thinks he's got a higher being wouldn't hurt anyone? > >> That wou.ld be idiotic considering more people have been murdered in >> the name of religion than for all other reasons combined. > > Plenty of murders have been committed by people who wouldn't dream of > missing church, and that doesn't even touch the fanatics who believe > it's their job to kill people because they have their God's blessing. > > nancy Yes indeed. Read the bible to learn of not only gods murderous ways, but his people also were quite murderous. Old Popeye is no murder authority, but I would tend to believe him if he starts commenting on all the sex stories which are also plastered all through the bible. |
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On Sat, 26 May 2018 17:49:03 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: >The anti abortion crowd is not all male. One of the few people I know >who is opposed to abortion in one of my sisters in law. She is not >involved with any anti abortion groups, but has supported them. > >Then there are people like the ex wife of an old friend of mine who >proudly announced that she had had 5 abortions. Maybe she was trying to >make a statement that would get her labelled as a liberal, but it just >made me think she was an idiot. I would have expected that, like most >women who have had unwanted pregnancies, that she would have learned >from her mistake the first time. > I wouldn't even let my cat have an abortion, let alone a human if I had any say over it. It's too close to murder for me. But to each their own. |
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On Sun, 27 May 2018 07:47:36 +1000, Bruce >
wrote: >On Sat, 26 May 2018 18:35:56 -0300, wrote: > >>On Sat, 26 May 2018 17:16:16 -0400, Dave Smith > wrote: >> >>>On 2018-05-26 3:38 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>>> On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 7:19:54 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote: >>> >>>>> I used to work with a guy who had a serious religion problem. You >>>>> could not have any sort of conversation with the guy without him >>>>> bringing God and Jesus into it. He once had to have a meeting with >>>>> our supervisor and some from HR and he wanted them to get down on >>>>> their knees and pray with him before they started the meeting. >>>> >>>> Everybody has their own religion. It's either one of God/nature or >>>> it's the religion of themselves. Personally, I'd feel safer around >>>> people that believe that there's something bigger than themselves. >>> >>>I don't feel very safe around people who think it is their duty to >>>convert or kill people who don't buy into their religion. I don't feel >>>comfortable in a community where there are silly laws based on religious >>>beliefs. There are simply too many different religions, each with their >>>own Us vs. Them Good vs. Evil issues. >>> >>The good news today was that Ireland has finally decided to change its >>abortion laws. When they went to interview the anti abortion side, it >>was a man who said it was a very sad day for Ireland - really!! >> >>It is interesting that the RC church is losing its thrall there, >>almost its last bastion. > >You forget South America, parts of the third world, Poland etc etc. >Ireland is a totally insignificant speck on the map. No, I didn't forget them, I meant last bastion in the so-called 'first world' - but things are not too great now either in the so-called 'third world' with priests being outed regularly. |
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On Sat, 26 May 2018 17:49:03 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2018-05-26 5:35 PM, wrote: >> On Sat, 26 May 2018 17:16:16 -0400, Dave Smith >> > wrote: > >>> I don't feel very safe around people who think it is their duty to >>> convert or kill people who don't buy into their religion. I don't feel >>> comfortable in a community where there are silly laws based on religious >>> beliefs. There are simply too many different religions, each with their >>> own Us vs. Them Good vs. Evil issues. >>> >> The good news today was that Ireland has finally decided to change its >> abortion laws. When they went to interview the anti abortion side, it >> was a man who said it was a very sad day for Ireland - really!! > >Bear in mind that reporters covering controversial social issues bend >over backwards to find the most radical people to interview. I am not >exactly pro-abortion, but I am definitely pro-Choice. I don't think >that abortion should be used as birth control. I would prefer that >people be taught about birth control and use it rather than resorting to >a medical procedure that carries some risks. I want abortion to be >legal so that women have the option of obtain safe abortions. We certainly don't need a return to coat hanger days, agreed. However I believe it is a myth that some women use abortion as birth control, if in fact, they did, I doubt they would make great mothers. Taking a pill looks great (either birth control pills or morning after) rather than a surgical procedure. > >The anti abortion crowd is not all male. One of the few people I know >who is opposed to abortion in one of my sisters in law. She is not >involved with any anti abortion groups, but has supported them. When Henry Morgentaler came to Halifax to open the first clinic there was a big demo when he spoke at the Dal Student Union. I went with two or three friends, it was bitter cold and on the other side of the road the pro choicers arrived, we started out shouting them and the young man beside me suddenly looked up at the placard I was carrying which said 'I don't let a man in Rome decide what I do' and said 'hell, I'm on the wrong side of the road' he started to cross over and we got a yell going for him to have a nice pregnancy > >Then there are people like the ex wife of an old friend of mine who >proudly announced that she had had 5 abortions. Maybe she was trying to >make a statement that would get her labelled as a liberal, but it just >made me think she was an idiot. I would have expected that, like most >women who have had unwanted pregnancies, that she would have learned >from her mistake the first time. Agreed - I would not have responded nicely had she said that to me, hopefully it wasn't true, just something she thought would win her some kudos. > > > > >> >> It is interesting that the RC church is losing its thrall there, >> almost its last bastion. >> |
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On Sat, 26 May 2018 16:50:17 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote: >Nancy Young wrote: >> On 5/26/2018 4:34 PM, wrote: >>> Nancy Young wrote: >>>> dsi1 wrote: >>>> >>>>> Everybody has their own religion. It's either one of God/nature or >>>>> it's the religion of >themselves. Personally, I'd feel safer around >>>>> people that believe that there's something >bigger than themselves. >>>> >>>> Because someone who thinks he's got a higher being wouldn't hurt anyone? >> >>> That wou.ld be idiotic considering more people have been murdered in >>> the name of religion than for all other reasons combined. >> >> Plenty of murders have been committed by people who wouldn't dream of >> missing church, and that doesn't even touch the fanatics who believe >> it's their job to kill people because they have their God's blessing. >> >> nancy > >Yes indeed. Read the bible to learn of not only gods murderous ways, but >his people also were quite murderous. > >Old Popeye is no murder authority, but I would tend to believe him if he >starts commenting on all the sex stories which are also plastered all >through the bible. > > Should he start with the famous Leviticus bit??? |
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On Sat, 26 May 2018 20:09:14 -0300, wrote:
>On Sun, 27 May 2018 07:47:36 +1000, Bruce > >wrote: > >>On Sat, 26 May 2018 18:35:56 -0300, wrote: >> >>>The good news today was that Ireland has finally decided to change its >>>abortion laws. When they went to interview the anti abortion side, it >>>was a man who said it was a very sad day for Ireland - really!! >>> >>>It is interesting that the RC church is losing its thrall there, >>>almost its last bastion. >> >>You forget South America, parts of the third world, Poland etc etc. >>Ireland is a totally insignificant speck on the map. > >No, I didn't forget them, I meant last bastion in the so-called 'first >world' Ok. (...) |
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On Sun, 27 May 2018 07:53:45 +1000, Bruce >
wrote: >On Sat, 26 May 2018 17:49:03 -0400, Dave Smith > wrote: > >>The anti abortion crowd is not all male. One of the few people I know >>who is opposed to abortion in one of my sisters in law. She is not >>involved with any anti abortion groups, but has supported them. >> >>Then there are people like the ex wife of an old friend of mine who >>proudly announced that she had had 5 abortions. Maybe she was trying to >>make a statement that would get her labelled as a liberal, but it just >>made me think she was an idiot. I would have expected that, like most >>women who have had unwanted pregnancies, that she would have learned >>from her mistake the first time. >> >I wouldn't even let my cat have an abortion, let alone a human if I >had any say over it. It's too close to murder for me. But to each >their own. Well don't impregnate a woman because I don't think you get the final say in Oz. |
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On 5/26/2018 12:12 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode >> Halakha forbids Jews from doing creative work on the Shabbat. > And what about home computers that are frequently left on 24/7? > Since it's already powered on does that preclude the user from using > the keyboard? > If you cannot do creative work, then no computer. De[ends on how you want to twist interpretation. |
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