On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 15:18:27 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-10-13 11:12 AM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 13:44:25 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
>> It's been years since glass went to the landfill here - in fact,
>> recycling glass has become the problem. It is cheaper to buy new
>> glass jars than to have anything to do with the glut of recycled
>> glass. With that in mind I try not to buy anything in glass, better
>> to have plastic which is now recycled into everything from sun deck
>> boards to fleece sweaters.
>>
>
>
>What recycled glass. The primary ingredient of glass is sand. There is
>an almost limited supply of that. It just has to be scooped up and
>transported to the glass making plant. They has a couple other things
>and something to dye it. Those colours have to be processed out of the
>glass, so it is cheaper and easier to just use new sand. For some reason
>they still collect glass in the recycling program, but it usually just
>gets ground up and dumped.

Ground glass is mixed with macadam and used to pave roads, lasts
longer too.

On 10/13/2017 4:43 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 15:18:27 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2017-10-13 11:12 AM, wrote:
>>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 13:44:25 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>>
>>> It's been years since glass went to the landfill here - in fact,
>>> recycling glass has become the problem. It is cheaper to buy new
>>> glass jars than to have anything to do with the glut of recycled
>>> glass. With that in mind I try not to buy anything in glass, better
>>> to have plastic which is now recycled into everything from sun deck
>>> boards to fleece sweaters.
>>>
>>
>>
>> What recycled glass. The primary ingredient of glass is sand. There is
>> an almost limited supply of that. It just has to be scooped up and
>> transported to the glass making plant. They has a couple other things
>> and something to dye it. Those colours have to be processed out of the
>> glass, so it is cheaper and easier to just use new sand. For some reason
>> they still collect glass in the recycling program, but it usually just
>> gets ground up and dumped.
>
> Ground glass is mixed with macadam and used to pave roads, lasts
> longer too.
>
I prefer old tires - makes for a super quiet pavement surface.

On 10/13/2017 1:00 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 09:36:54 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Friday, October 13, 2017 at 12:23:30 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>> On 10/13/2017 12:00 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 11:51:02 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/13/2017 11:15 AM, wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:34:28 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/13/2017 10:17 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 10/13/2017 9:56 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I really couldn't say I know much about manufacturing plastic.
>>>>>>>>> There's a big movement to get rid of plastic bags at the grocery
>>>>>>>>> store. (Beaufort County is considering banning them.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The problem is not the bag itself, it is the careless use by a lot of
>>>>>>>> people that cause the problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What are people doing with them that creates a problem? Maybe I live in
>>>>>>> an odd area but I never see plastic bags discarded by the side of the
>>>>>>> road. Or, as someone mentioned here once, plastic bags in trees! (Not
>>>>>>> even after two hurricanes.) That sort of thing just doesn't happen
>>>>>>> where I live.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I mentioned that and you didn't believe it - I saw a tree recently
>>>>>> with about 3 bags festooning it, nearly stopped to take a pic but then
>>>>>> thought wtf - I'm not a liar.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not calling you a liar. I'm simply saying (again) I've never seen
>>>>> such a thing. I can't figure out how plastic bags wind up in trees.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Leave one out on your grass and watch what happens when the wind
>>>> inflates it and carries it up into trees.
>>>>
>>> Who does that?! Your neighbors? Sorry if that's the case. Where I
>>> live people don't toss plastic bags out on their lawns. Or out car windows.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> When our recycling carts get dumped into the truck on a windy day,
>> practically anything that's in them can get picked up by the wind.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> We're talking to a person who lives on an eldercamp, not like us hoi
> polloi. Yes, the wind will catch them anywhere else, but not it
> seems the perfect Dataw camp.
>
Get over it. I'm not nailed in place, you know. I do actually drive
off the island to buy groceries, put gas in the car, drop things at the
post office, etc. I've still never seen plastic bags in trees.

Jill

On 10/13/2017 5:40 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> We're talking to a person who lives on an eldercamp, not like us hoi
>> polloi.Â*Â* Yes, the wind will catch them anywhere else, but not it
>> seems the perfect Dataw camp.
>>
> Get over it.Â* I'm not nailed in place, you know.Â* I do actually drive
> off the island to buy groceries, put gas in the car, drop things at the
> post office, etc.Â* I've still never seen plastic bags in trees.
>
> Jill


That's what you get for living in "The Truman Show"!

http://www.asset1.net/tv/pictures/mo...how-The-DI.jpg

On 10/13/2017 11:15 AM, wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:34:28 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:

>> road. Or, as someone mentioned here once, plastic bags in trees! (Not
>> even after two hurricanes.) That sort of thing just doesn't happen
>> where I live.
>
> I mentioned that and you didn't believe it - I saw a tree recently
> with about 3 bags festooning it, nearly stopped to take a pic but then
> thought wtf - I'm not a liar.

I don't remember anyone being accused of lying about plastic bags
in trees, I remember discussing why are they there? In numbers.
I think it started with someone talking about the road from some
airport not in the Us being lined with trees with bags.

I certainly don't think it's a lie someone came up with.

nancy

On 10/13/2017 8:30 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 10/13/2017 11:15 AM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:34:28 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>
>>> road.Â* Or, as someone mentioned here once, plastic bags in trees! (Not
>>> even after two hurricanes.)Â* That sort of thing just doesn't happen
>>> where I live.
>>
>> I mentioned that and you didn't believe it - I saw a tree recently
>> with about 3 bags festooning it, nearly stopped to take a pic but then
>> thought wtf - I'm not a liar.
>
> I don't remember anyone being accused of lying about plastic bags
> in trees, I remember discussing why are they there?Â* In numbers.
> I think it started with someone talking about the road from some
> airport not in the Us being lined with trees with bags.
>
> I certainly don't think it's a lie someone came up with.
>
> nancy

All I said during that discussion is I'd never seen bags in trees. I
certainly didn't call her a liar. The thought of plastic bags in trees
took me by surprise. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. Nancy, right
after that discussion didn't you tell me you saw a plastic bag in a tree?

Jill

On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 14:34:35 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, October 13, 2017 at 5:28:08 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
>
>> On very windy days when the recyclable bin is out at the side of the
>> road (we have no curbs) the bin blows over and the contents goes
>> flying. My recyclabe bins are rarely very heavy as aluminum cat food
>> cans don't weigh much so the bin blows over. So now I pour a couple
>> three gallons of water into the bin to add weight. I used to add a
>> few rocks but I ran out of rocks near the bin and I'm not about to
>> carry rocks from any distance so gallon milk jugs of water works...
>> and the water helps clean the bin.. I pour the water while the bins
>> are still in my garage... sometimes I even add a few drops of dish
>> washing liquid... can't hurt, cleans my bin and helps clean their
>> truck.
>
>We have two of these, provided by the waste hauler:
>
><http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/janitorial-maintenance/garbage-recycling/containers-mobile/trash-container-mobile-trash-container-9>
>
>It takes an extraordinary wind to blow one over.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Our bins look exactly the same, like top heavy ladies with small
bottoms... they lie down easily:
http://www.county-waste.com/recycling
The bin for our regular garbage won't blow over unless from perhaps a
tornado, it's heavy, filled lots of spent cat litter. But our
recyclables consists mainly of aluminum cat food cans, any wolf can
blow it over with a huff and a puff. So during inclement weather I
add 3 gallons of water, adds some 25 pounds to the bottom.

On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 17:36:16 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 17:28:04 -0400, wrote:
>
>> On very windy days when the recyclable bin is out at the side of the
>> road (we have no curbs) the bin blows over and the contents goes
>> flying. My recyclabe bins are rarely very heavy as aluminum cat food
>> cans don't weigh much so the bin blows over. So now I pour a couple
>> three gallons of water into the bin to add weight. I used to add a
>> few rocks but I ran out of rocks near the bin and I'm not about to
>> carry rocks from any distance so gallon milk jugs of water works...
>> and the water helps clean the bin.. I pour the water while the bins
>> are still in my garage... sometimes I even add a few drops of dish
>> washing liquid... can't hurt, cleans my bin and helps clean their
>> truck.
>
>It also makes the paper products in the truck soggy, inseparable, and
>unusable. Nice going, asshole.
>
>-sw

Bullshit, on rainy days plenty of water gets inside the truck from the
large openings where the bins are dumped. And their web site says to
place paper and shredded paper in separate plastic bags. It won't get
wet.

On 10/13/2017 4:11 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 09:56:00 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> I use those plastic bags to line the waste paper baskets in the
>> bathroom. They never contain more than some empty toilet paper rolls or
>> Kleenex so they get emptied and re-used. I use plastic bags to dispose
>> of dirty cat litter. If they abolish plastic bags I'm not sure what
>> else I could use for that purpose.
>>
>> Jill
>
> We don't get nearly enough plastic bags from shopping to keep up with
> cat litter so we buy those bags in cartons of 1,000 for $10, BJs sells
> them.
>
Yeah, well I only have one cat. I have a small stainless steel garbage
can with a step-pedal lid and built-in removeable bucket (with a bail
handle) next to the litterbox. I line it with the plastic bags from the
grocery store. Perfect fit. Every time I scoop the box the dirty
litter it goes into the little can. At least once a week that plastic
bag of litter goes out with the regular garbage pickup. I really don't
want to have to buy special sized bags for that little trash can. Or
for the other small waste baskets I have. The ones in the bathrooms
never have much more than a kleenex or empty toilet paper rolls in them.
I use the plastic grocery bags to line those small trash cans.

Jill

On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 16:20:23 -0600, Casa lo pensa >
wrote:

>On 10/13/2017 3:42 PM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:44:37 -0600, Casa lo pensa >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/13/2017 10:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> Who does that?! Your neighbors? Sorry if that's the case. Where I
>>>>> live people don't toss plastic bags out on their lawns. Or out car windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>> When our recycling carts get dumped into the truck on a windy day,
>>>> practically anything that's in them can get picked up by the wind.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> Top tip:
>>>
>>> Take a common bungee cord and affix it between the lid of the can and
>>> the handle grip beneath:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://pamplinmedia.com/images/artim...3511506620.jpg
>>
>> I tryed that, it doesn't work unless there's something very heavy in
>> the can, otherwise the lid won't open when it's tipped over to dump.
>
>Well sure yes, the guys on our truck just unhook it and attach the can
>to the emptying arm on the back of the truck - no worries.

There are no guys on our trucks, only the driver and he won't get out
to right a blown over bin, the bin simply doesn't get picked up.

>> Now I pour a few gallons of water in the can to add weight at the
>> bottom and it doesn't blow over.
>
>Sensible.
>
>> I suggested to the trash company to
>> have their plastic cans molded with a false bottom that can be filled
>> with sand but that fell on deaf ears.
>
>Bet you could jury rig that or something similar even using bolts and:
>
>http://www.fitdir.com/media/catalog/...ght_plates.jpg

I already thought of bolting a heavy steel plate to the underside and
I asked if that was allowed, I was told NO!

The trash pick up companies are very independant and have no
competition, private sanitation has always been a business operated by
organized crime,

On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 16:23:37 -0600, Casa lo pensa >
wrote:

>On 10/13/2017 3:42 PM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:44:37 -0600, Casa lo pensa >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/13/2017 10:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> Who does that?! Your neighbors? Sorry if that's the case. Where I
>>>>> live people don't toss plastic bags out on their lawns. Or out car windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>> When our recycling carts get dumped into the truck on a windy day,
>>>> practically anything that's in them can get picked up by the wind.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> Top tip:
>>>
>>> Take a common bungee cord and affix it between the lid of the can and
>>> the handle grip beneath:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://pamplinmedia.com/images/artim...3511506620.jpg
>>
>> I tryed that, it doesn't work unless there's something very heavy in
>> the can, otherwise the lid won't open when it's tipped over to dump.
>> Now I pour a few gallons of water in the can to add weight at the
>> bottom and it doesn't blow over. I suggested to the trash company to
>> have their plastic cans molded with a false bottom that can be filled
>> with sand but that fell on deaf ears.
>>
>
>In fact (brain fart!) how's about replacing the actual wheels on the toter:
>
>http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31hwtPS8SGL.jpg
>
>With these instead:
>
>https://www.insportline.eu/p39670/10...nSPORTline.jpg
>
>That's about 44 lbs. of low center of gravity weight right there!

I'm not messing with those trash cans, I don't wanna end up at the
bottom of the Hudson River wearing C-menta shooz.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/13/2017 1:51 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
>>
>> All of our carts too, garbage, recycle, lawn clipping. Hydraulic arm
>> picks them up dumps them into the truck and sets them back down.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Most towns won't take lawn clippings. It is better to use a mulching
> blade and get a better lawn.
>
> Our trash is bagged and has a sticker you pay for ($1 large 50 cent small)
> on it and then hand loaded. Recycle goes in a bin that is hand loaded.
> No automation here.


I don't know of any town in CA that doesn't take clippings.

Cheri

> wrote in message
...

> Around here a lot of people hang there laundry outdoors to dry, then
> tehr eare windy days I find pieces of laundry in my trees... sometimes
> I get lucky and there's a large bra in my maple tree, I just leave it
> while I wait for its owner to arrive.


Really? I thought for sure you would put it on to attract passers by.

Cheri

On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 21:06:51 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 10/13/2017 8:30 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 10/13/2017 11:15 AM, wrote:
>>>
>>> I mentioned that and you didn't believe it - I saw a tree recently
>>> with about 3 bags festooning it, nearly stopped to take a pic but then
>>> thought wtf - I'm not a liar.
>>
>> I don't remember anyone being accused of lying about plastic bags
>> in trees, I remember discussing why are they there?* In numbers.
>> I think it started with someone talking about the road from some
>> airport not in the Us being lined with trees with bags.
>>
>> I certainly don't think it's a lie someone came up with.
>>
>> nancy
>
>All I said during that discussion is I'd never seen bags in trees. I
>certainly didn't call her a liar. The thought of plastic bags in trees
>took me by surprise. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. Nancy, right
>after that discussion didn't you tell me you saw a plastic bag in a tree?

Really? What a fluke! Why do y'all have such interesting lives?

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> All I said during that discussion is I'd never seen bags in trees. I
> certainly didn't call her a liar. The thought of plastic bags in trees
> took me by surprise. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. Nancy, right
> after that discussion didn't you tell me you saw a plastic bag in a tree?
>
> Jill


I believe I was another that said I hadn't seen them in trees, but plenty on
the ground when driving around. I used to get a lot trash in my yard living
across from a high school, but they have been very good these past couple of
years. I think some people posted pics of the bags in trees so I know it
happens. but I don't remember anyone being called a liar over it.

Cheri

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...

> Really? What a fluke! Why do y'all have such interesting lives?


Speaking of interesting, you're not. Don't you have some ingredients to look
up or something riveting like that?

Cheri

On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 20:30:35 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>On 10/13/2017 11:15 AM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:34:28 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>
>>> road. Or, as someone mentioned here once, plastic bags in trees! (Not
>>> even after two hurricanes.) That sort of thing just doesn't happen
>>> where I live.
>>
>> I mentioned that and you didn't believe it - I saw a tree recently
>> with about 3 bags festooning it, nearly stopped to take a pic but then
>> thought wtf - I'm not a liar.
>
>I don't remember anyone being accused of lying about plastic bags
>in trees, I remember discussing why are they there? In numbers.
>I think it started with someone talking about the road from some
>airport not in the Us being lined with trees with bags.
>
>I certainly don't think it's a lie someone came up with.
>
>nancy

Plastic bags is nothing, there's a city in Italy where everywhere you
look you'll see a flying penis, even in trees:
http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles...-penis-amulets

On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 18:52:00 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Bruce" > wrote in message
.. .
>
>> Really? What a fluke! Why do y'all have such interesting lives?
>
>
>Speaking of interesting, you're not. Don't you have some ingredients to look
>up or something riveting like that?

I thought you were bored with that.

On 10/13/2017 9:43 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 10/13/2017 1:51 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> All of our carts too, garbage, recycle, lawn clipping. Hydraulic arm
>>> picks them up dumps them into the truck and sets them back down.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> Most towns won't take lawn clippings.* It is better to use a mulching
>> blade and get a better lawn.
>>
>> Our trash is bagged and has a sticker you pay for ($1 large 50 cent
>> small) on it and then hand loaded.* Recycle goes in a bin that is hand
>> loaded. No automation here.
>
>
> I don't know of any town in CA that doesn't take clippings.
>
> Cheri

Clippings save on fertilizer as they contain nitrogen and potassium. As
ecologically thinking CA seems to be, I'd have thought they would
encourage mulching rather that carting them away.

On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 18:50:04 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
>news >
>> All I said during that discussion is I'd never seen bags in trees. I
>> certainly didn't call her a liar. The thought of plastic bags in trees
>> took me by surprise. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. Nancy, right
>> after that discussion didn't you tell me you saw a plastic bag in a tree?
>>
>> Jill
>
>
>I believe I was another that said I hadn't seen them in trees, but plenty on
>the ground when driving around. I used to get a lot trash in my yard living
>across from a high school, but they have been very good these past couple of
>years. I think some people posted pics of the bags in trees so I know it
>happens. but I don't remember anyone being called a liar over it.

Bags in trees... don't you miss the good old days when we just didn't
know about these things? We were so innocent then.

On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 21:52:34 -0400, wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 20:30:35 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:
>
>>On 10/13/2017 11:15 AM, wrote:
>>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:34:28 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> road. Or, as someone mentioned here once, plastic bags in trees! (Not
>>>> even after two hurricanes.) That sort of thing just doesn't happen
>>>> where I live.
>>>
>>> I mentioned that and you didn't believe it - I saw a tree recently
>>> with about 3 bags festooning it, nearly stopped to take a pic but then
>>> thought wtf - I'm not a liar.
>>
>>I don't remember anyone being accused of lying about plastic bags
>>in trees, I remember discussing why are they there? In numbers.
>>I think it started with someone talking about the road from some
>>airport not in the Us being lined with trees with bags.
>>
>>I certainly don't think it's a lie someone came up with.
>>
>>nancy
>
>Plastic bags is nothing, there's a city in Italy where everywhere you
>look you'll see a flying penis, even in trees:
>http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles...-penis-amulets

I think you see flying penises no matter where you are.

On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 21:56:21 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 10/13/2017 9:43 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 10/13/2017 1:51 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> All of our carts too, garbage, recycle, lawn clipping. Hydraulic arm
>>>> picks them up dumps them into the truck and sets them back down.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> Most towns won't take lawn clippings.* It is better to use a mulching
>>> blade and get a better lawn.
>>>
>>> Our trash is bagged and has a sticker you pay for ($1 large 50 cent
>>> small) on it and then hand loaded.* Recycle goes in a bin that is hand
>>> loaded. No automation here.
>>
>>
>> I don't know of any town in CA that doesn't take clippings.
>>
>> Cheri
>
>Clippings save on fertilizer as they contain nitrogen and potassium. As
>ecologically thinking CA seems to be, I'd have thought they would
>encourage mulching rather that carting them away.

It depends on where in CA... there are many biomes in the state. In
the south grass is difficult to grow and rarely gets to the point it
needs mowing... most lawns are of the types of grass that never need
mowing. As one goes north the more traditional grasses are grown but
still they grow slow due to low rainfall. In any event most lawns in
CA are rather small in area so there aren't a lot of clippings.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 10/12/2017 11:53 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 15:03:14 -0400, wrote:
>>
>>> U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Glass containers can break, particularly in a food drive situation.
>>>> The contents from broken containers spill and ruin the surrounding
>>>> food.
>>>
>>> It's easy peasy to keep glass containers separate... and there aren't
>>> all that many foods in glass today that people are likely to donate.
>>
>> Spaghetti sauce, condiment sauces, and baby food (in that order).
>> About half the donated baby food now comes in those "pudding cups",
>> but a lot of it is still glass - easier to tell if it's safe to eat
>> because of the "safety button" and they last longer on the shelves.
>>
>> -sw
>>
> Pickles? (dunno, I don't buy pickles)

A lot of those are in plastic these days.

On 10/13/2017 9:50 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> news >
>> All I said during that discussion is I'd never seen bags in trees.* I
>> certainly didn't call her a liar.* The thought of plastic bags in
>> trees took me by surprise.* I'm not saying it doesn't happen.* Nancy,
>> right after that discussion didn't you tell me you saw a plastic bag
>> in a tree?
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> I believe I was another that said I hadn't seen them in trees, but
> plenty on the ground when driving around. I used to get a lot trash in
> my yard living across from a high school, but they have been very good
> these past couple of years. I think some people posted pics of the bags
> in trees so I know it happens. but I don't remember anyone being called
> a liar over it.
>
> Cheri

Thank you, Cheri. I didn't call her a liar.

Now she's trying to say it's because I live on Dataw... Inferred I live
in a sheltered world and never actually leave the house. That's crazy talk.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 10/13/2017 12:10 AM, wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 22:53:07 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 15:03:14 -0400, wrote:
>>>
>>>> U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Glass containers can break, particularly in a food drive situation.
>>>>> The contents from broken containers spill and ruin the surrounding
>>>>> food.
>>>>
>>>> It's easy peasy to keep glass containers separate... and there aren't
>>>> all that many foods in glass today that people are likely to donate.
>>>
>>> Spaghetti sauce, condiment sauces, and baby food (in that order).
>>> About half the donated baby food now comes in those "pudding cups",
>>> but a lot of it is still glass - easier to tell if it's safe to eat
>>> because of the "safety button" and they last longer on the shelves.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> I haven't looked at baby foods in some fifty years.
>> I can't imagine too many are donating hot sauce, least not around
>> here... perhaps common in tex mex land. I don't buy spaghetti sauce
>> but mostly around here I've been seeing it more in cans than in glass
>> jars... I've also seen it in plastic jars. Packaging keeps changing
>> and by region. Last Christmas time I was doing some baking and needed
>> applesauce, no more glass jars, now plastic jars. I like to bake bran
>> muffins with applesauce rather than with oil.
>>
> He didn't mention hot sauce, but the last jar of mayo I bought was glass,
> ditto Dijon mustard and a jar of jalapeno peppers. With so many people
> concerned about plastic in landfills I'm surprised at how many food items
> are packaged in plastic rather than glass containers.

Most plastic can be recycled.

On 10/13/2017 9:52 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Really? What a fluke! Why do y'all have such interesting lives?
>
>
> Speaking of interesting, you're not. Don't you have some ingredients to
> look up or something riveting like that?
>
> Cheri

LOL Maybe one of these days he'll tell us what he *does* eat rather
than telling us what NOT to eat.

If it doesn't rain tomorrow I'm going to grill some hot Italian sausage
links and corn on the cob tomorrow. We all know what he'll think about
the ingredients in the sausage. We'll just have to wait to hear why he
objects to grilled corn on the cob.

What exactly does Bruce eat? No one really knows.

Jill

On 2017-10-13 10:55 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 10/13/2017 9:52 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Really? What a fluke! Why do y'all have such interesting lives?
>>
>>
>> Speaking of interesting, you're not. Don't you have some ingredients
>> to look up or something riveting like that?
>>
>> Cheri
>
> LOL* Maybe one of these days he'll tell us what he *does* eat rather
> than telling us what NOT to eat.
>
> If it doesn't rain tomorrow I'm going to grill some hot Italian sausage
> links and corn on the cob tomorrow.* We all know what he'll think about
> the ingredients in the sausage.* We'll just have to wait to hear why he
> objects to grilled corn on the cob.
>
> What exactly does Bruce eat?* No one really knows.
>


Crow?

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 10/13/2017 9:24 AM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 07:45:23 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/13/2017 12:10 AM, wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 22:53:07 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 15:03:14 -0400, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Glass containers can break, particularly in a food drive situation.
>>>>>>> The contents from broken containers spill and ruin the surrounding
>>>>>>> food.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's easy peasy to keep glass containers separate... and there aren't
>>>>>> all that many foods in glass today that people are likely to donate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Spaghetti sauce, condiment sauces, and baby food (in that order).
>>>>> About half the donated baby food now comes in those "pudding cups",
>>>>> but a lot of it is still glass - easier to tell if it's safe to eat
>>>>> because of the "safety button" and they last longer on the shelves.
>>>>>
>>>>> -sw
>>>>
>>>> I haven't looked at baby foods in some fifty years.
>>>> I can't imagine too many are donating hot sauce, least not around
>>>> here... perhaps common in tex mex land. I don't buy spaghetti sauce
>>>> but mostly around here I've been seeing it more in cans than in glass
>>>> jars... I've also seen it in plastic jars. Packaging keeps changing
>>>> and by region. Last Christmas time I was doing some baking and needed
>>>> applesauce, no more glass jars, now plastic jars. I like to bake bran
>>>> muffins with applesauce rather than with oil.
>>>>
>>> He didn't mention hot sauce, but the last jar of mayo I bought was
>>> glass, ditto Dijon mustard
>>
>> I haven't seen mayo or mustard in glass for at least five years, they
>> all went to plastic, same as ketchup.
>>
>>> and a jar of jalapeno peppers. With so many
>>> people concerned about plastic in landfills I'm surprised at how many
>>> food items are packaged in plastic rather than glass containers.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Manufactuing glass pollutes more than manufacturing plastic...
>> requires extremely high temperatures to produce and form glass.
>>
> I know about glass blowing as an art form but never really thought about
> it in terms of manufacturing jars for food.
>
> I really couldn't say I know much about manufacturing plastic. There's a
> big movement to get rid of plastic bags at the grocery store. (Beaufort
> County is considering banning them.)
>
> I have cloth [shopping] bags but I don't always know how much I'm going to
> buy. I shop with a list but sometimes packages are larger than expected
> or I find a deal so I buy a few extra items. This means I don't always
> have enough cloth bags to hold everything.
>
> I use those plastic bags to line the waste paper baskets in the bathroom.
> They never contain more than some empty toilet paper rolls or Kleenex so
> they get emptied and re-used. I use plastic bags to dispose of dirty cat
> litter. If they abolish plastic bags I'm not sure what else I could use
> for that purpose.

We just use a big plastic lawn and leaf bag in the kitchen trash. When we
take the trash out, this is taken around the house and the rest of the trash
emptied into it.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 10/13/2017 11:05 AM, notbob wrote:
>> On 2017-10-13, jmcquown > wrote:
>>
>>> Before they introduced them? How old do you think I am?! LOL
>>
>> If you think I'm gonna touch that question with a 10 ft pole, yer
>> sadly mistaken.
>>
>>> Of course I remember paper grocery bags. I even walked from an
>>> apartment in midtown Memphis to a grocery store every week and came back
>>> carrying a couple of paper bags of food.
>>
>> I was gonna say! I was bagging groceries in paper bags ina militay
>> commissary, back in '64. You weren't born yet?
>>
> I was born in 1960. I don't remember thinking about paper vs. plastic
> when I was four years old. LOL

I don't remember plastic bags for home use in those days. Trash went in
paper, sandwiches in waxed paper bags. Store bought bread came in plastic
bags. People washed and reused them.

<snip>

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 10/13/2017 10:17 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 10/13/2017 9:56 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I really couldn't say I know much about manufacturing plastic. There's
>>> a big movement to get rid of plastic bags at the grocery store.
>>> (Beaufort County is considering banning them.)
>>>
>>
>> The problem is not the bag itself, it is the careless use by a lot of
>> people that cause the problem.
>>
> What are people doing with them that creates a problem? Maybe I live in
> an odd area but I never see plastic bags discarded by the side of the
> road. Or, as someone mentioned here once, plastic bags in trees! (Not
> even after two hurricanes.) That sort of thing just doesn't happen where
> I live.
>
>>> I use those plastic bags to line the waste paper baskets in the
>>> bathroom. They never contain more than some empty toilet paper rolls or
>>> Kleenex so they get emptied and re-used. I use plastic bags to dispose
>>> of dirty cat litter. If they abolish plastic bags I'm not sure what else
>>> I could use for that purpose.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> They have a lot of secondary uses. I don't think we ever discraded an
>> empty bag. They get used for something and may be disposed of with other
>> waste in them.
>>
> Exactly. Secondary uses. The ones in the bathroom waste baskets get used
> over and over. They aren't "dirty". Just paper stuff in them. But I
> can't do that with the plastic bags I use to dispose of dirty cat litter.
> The dirty cat litter along with the bag has to go out with the trash.
>
> Just an FYI: I don't buy cat litter in plastic jugs. What I buy comes in
> thick 10 lb. paper bags. But I need plastic bags to easily dispose of the
> *used* litter. Don't know what I'll do if the county bans them.
>
> Jill

http://www.littergenie.com/

On 10/13/2017 10:57 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-10-13 10:55 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 10/13/2017 9:52 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Really? What a fluke! Why do y'all have such interesting lives?
>>>
>>>
>>> Speaking of interesting, you're not. Don't you have some ingredients
>>> to look up or something riveting like that?
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> LOL* Maybe one of these days he'll tell us what he *does* eat rather
>> than telling us what NOT to eat.
>>
>> If it doesn't rain tomorrow I'm going to grill some hot Italian
>> sausage links and corn on the cob
(snipped self)
>>
>> What exactly does Bruce eat?* No one really knows.
>>
>
> Crow?
>
Never! Heck, he even objects to the ingredients in the canned cat food
Buffy likes. It contains meat by products! Yeah, well he's not going
to eat them so why does he care? He'd have had a fit about the Menudo I
had for lunch yesterday. It's a spicy Mexican soup made with tripe and
hominy. Tripe is the lining of a cow's stomach. OMG. People actually
do eat what he considers "by products". Liver, kidneys, etc.
Chitlin's. (Okay, I've never had intestines and am not interested.)
Just because he doesn't eat it doesn't mean no one does.

Remind me again what does he eat?

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 10/13/2017 9:50 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> news >>
>>> All I said during that discussion is I'd never seen bags in trees. I
>>> certainly didn't call her a liar. The thought of plastic bags in trees
>>> took me by surprise. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. Nancy, right
>>> after that discussion didn't you tell me you saw a plastic bag in a
>>> tree?
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>
>> I believe I was another that said I hadn't seen them in trees, but plenty
>> on the ground when driving around. I used to get a lot trash in my yard
>> living across from a high school, but they have been very good these past
>> couple of years. I think some people posted pics of the bags in trees so
>> I know it happens. but I don't remember anyone being called a liar over
>> it.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Thank you, Cheri. I didn't call her a liar.
>
> Now she's trying to say it's because I live on Dataw... Inferred I live in
> a sheltered world and never actually leave the house. That's crazy talk.
>
> Jill


I think some might be a tiny bit jealous but fact of the matter is, most
places like Dataw don't have some of the problems that other places do,
doesn't mean they are sheltered from life, or don't know what going on
around them, or most especially that they don't get out and about and see
things everyday.

Cheri

Cheri

On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 20:29:18 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
>news
>> Thank you, Cheri. I didn't call her a liar.
>>
>> Now she's trying to say it's because I live on Dataw... Inferred I live in
>> a sheltered world and never actually leave the house. That's crazy talk.
>>
>> Jill
>
>
>I think some might be a tiny bit jealous but fact of the matter is, most
>places like Dataw don't have some of the problems that other places do,
>doesn't mean they are sheltered from life, or don't know what going on
>around them, or most especially that they don't get out and about and see
>things everyday.

In short, we shouldn't underestimate Jill. She sees things everyday!

On 10/13/2017 7:28 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 16:20:23 -0600, Casa lo pensa >
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/13/2017 3:42 PM, wrote:
>>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:44:37 -0600, Casa lo pensa >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/13/2017 10:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> Who does that?! Your neighbors? Sorry if that's the case. Where I
>>>>>> live people don't toss plastic bags out on their lawns. Or out car windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>> When our recycling carts get dumped into the truck on a windy day,
>>>>> practically anything that's in them can get picked up by the wind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>> Top tip:
>>>>
>>>> Take a common bungee cord and affix it between the lid of the can and
>>>> the handle grip beneath:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://pamplinmedia.com/images/artim...3511506620.jpg
>>>
>>> I tryed that, it doesn't work unless there's something very heavy in
>>> the can, otherwise the lid won't open when it's tipped over to dump.
>>
>> Well sure yes, the guys on our truck just unhook it and attach the can
>> to the emptying arm on the back of the truck - no worries.
>
> There are no guys on our trucks, only the driver and he won't get out
> to right a blown over bin, the bin simply doesn't get picked up.

Typical least coast 'tude...sigh...

>>> Now I pour a few gallons of water in the can to add weight at the
>>> bottom and it doesn't blow over.
>>
>> Sensible.
>>
>>> I suggested to the trash company to
>>> have their plastic cans molded with a false bottom that can be filled
>>> with sand but that fell on deaf ears.
>>
>> Bet you could jury rig that or something similar even using bolts and:
>>
>> http://www.fitdir.com/media/catalog/...ght_plates.jpg
>
> I already thought of bolting a heavy steel plate to the underside and
> I asked if that was allowed, I was told NO!

Crap!

> The trash pick up companies are very independant and have no
> competition, private sanitation has always been a business operated by
> organized crime,

Still???

Damn.

On 10/13/2017 7:32 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 16:23:37 -0600, Casa lo pensa >
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/13/2017 3:42 PM, wrote:
>>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:44:37 -0600, Casa lo pensa >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/13/2017 10:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> Who does that?! Your neighbors? Sorry if that's the case. Where I
>>>>>> live people don't toss plastic bags out on their lawns. Or out car windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>> When our recycling carts get dumped into the truck on a windy day,
>>>>> practically anything that's in them can get picked up by the wind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>> Top tip:
>>>>
>>>> Take a common bungee cord and affix it between the lid of the can and
>>>> the handle grip beneath:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://pamplinmedia.com/images/artim...3511506620.jpg
>>>
>>> I tryed that, it doesn't work unless there's something very heavy in
>>> the can, otherwise the lid won't open when it's tipped over to dump.
>>> Now I pour a few gallons of water in the can to add weight at the
>>> bottom and it doesn't blow over. I suggested to the trash company to
>>> have their plastic cans molded with a false bottom that can be filled
>>> with sand but that fell on deaf ears.
>>>
>>
>> In fact (brain fart!) how's about replacing the actual wheels on the toter:
>>
>> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31hwtPS8SGL.jpg
>>
>> With these instead:
>>
>> https://www.insportline.eu/p39670/10...nSPORTline.jpg
>>
>> That's about 44 lbs. of low center of gravity weight right there!
>
> I'm not messing with those trash cans, I don't wanna end up at the
> bottom of the Hudson River wearing C-menta shooz.
>
LOLOL!!!

On 10/13/2017 7:52 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Really? What a fluke! Why do y'all have such interesting lives?
>
>
> Speaking of interesting, you're not. Don't you have some ingredients to
> look up or something riveting like that?
>
> Cheri

Ding!

On 10/13/2017 7:52 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 20:30:35 -0400, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
>> On 10/13/2017 11:15 AM, wrote:
>>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:34:28 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> road. Or, as someone mentioned here once, plastic bags in trees! (Not
>>>> even after two hurricanes.) That sort of thing just doesn't happen
>>>> where I live.
>>>
>>> I mentioned that and you didn't believe it - I saw a tree recently
>>> with about 3 bags festooning it, nearly stopped to take a pic but then
>>> thought wtf - I'm not a liar.
>>
>> I don't remember anyone being accused of lying about plastic bags
>> in trees, I remember discussing why are they there? In numbers.
>> I think it started with someone talking about the road from some
>> airport not in the Us being lined with trees with bags.
>>
>> I certainly don't think it's a lie someone came up with.
>>
>> nancy
>
> Plastic bags is nothing, there's a city in Italy where everywhere you
> look you'll see a flying penis, even in trees:
> http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles...-penis-amulets
>

They were into drinking from lead-lined aqueducts too, so....

On 10/13/2017 7:54 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Liar. Their website says

Steve Wertz - unrepentant woman stalker and total head case begging poor
Omelet to shoot him with a sniper rifle in austin.food:

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On 10/13/2017 8:57 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-10-13 10:55 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 10/13/2017 9:52 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Really? What a fluke! Why do y'all have such interesting lives?
>>>
>>>
>>> Speaking of interesting, you're not. Don't you have some ingredients
>>> to look up or something riveting like that?
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> LOL* Maybe one of these days he'll tell us what he *does* eat rather
>> than telling us what NOT to eat.
>>
>> If it doesn't rain tomorrow I'm going to grill some hot Italian
>> sausage links and corn on the cob tomorrow.* We all know what he'll
>> think about the ingredients in the sausage.* We'll just have to wait
>> to hear why he objects to grilled corn on the cob.
>>
>> What exactly does Bruce eat?* No one really knows.
>>
>
>
> Crow?
>

Certainly not humble pie...

On 10/13/2017 9:31 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I can't think

Steve Wertz - unrepentant woman stalker and total head case begging poor
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There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

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