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I know, I know. I'm going to talk about British cooking and I can hear the
shudders from here! However, British cooking has come a long, long way from the boiled potatoes and boiled cabbage of my youth, followed by good old Spotted Dick for dessert. (Actually, I'm talking only about school food. My mother was an excellent and imaginative cook.) The world invaded the British Isles some time back and the cooking now bears the influence of so many nationalities and ethnicities. Indian, Chinese and Italian eateries abound. However, the first link I list is the one I always turn to when I want to find familiar recipes - it's excellent. The second link will show how much more sophisticated British cooking has become. Helen's British Cooking Site - http://www.hwatson.force9.co.uk/ BBC Food - http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/ Delia Smith - http://www.deliasmith.co.uk Dora limey at toad dot net |
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limey wrote:
> I know, I know. I'm going to talk about British cooking and I can > hear the shudders from here! > However, British cooking has come a long, long way from the boiled > potatoes and boiled cabbage of my youth, followed by good old Spotted > Dick for dessert. (Actually, I'm talking only about school food. > My mother was an excellent and imaginative cook.) Ah, but Dora, I still just love 'mince' with mashed potatoes Jill > > The world invaded the British Isles some time back and the cooking > now bears the influence of so many nationalities and ethnicities. > Indian, Chinese and Italian eateries abound. However, the first link > I list is the one I always turn to when I want to find familiar > recipes - it's excellent. The second link will show how much more > sophisticated British cooking has become. > > Helen's British Cooking Site - http://www.hwatson.force9.co.uk/ > BBC Food - http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/ > Delia Smith - http://www.deliasmith.co.uk > > Dora > > > > limey at toad dot net |
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"limey" > wrote in
: > I know, I know. I'm going to talk about British cooking and I can > hear the shudders from here! > However, British cooking has come a long, long way from the boiled > potatoes and boiled cabbage of my youth, followed by good old Spotted > Dick for dessert. (Actually, I'm talking only about school food. My > mother was an excellent and imaginative cook.) > > The world invaded the British Isles some time back and the cooking now > bears the influence of so many nationalities and ethnicities. Indian, > Chinese and Italian eateries abound. However, the first link I list > is the one I always turn to when I want to find familiar recipes - > it's excellent. The second link will show how much more sophisticated > British cooking has become. > > Helen's British Cooking Site - http://www.hwatson.force9.co.uk/ > BBC Food - http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/ > Delia Smith - http://www.deliasmith.co.uk > > Dora > > > > limey at toad dot net > > > Don't forget the Britian of your youth was probably still on rationing after world warII. -- Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food and water. -------- FIELDS, W. C. |
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I actually love British food, thanks in part to Nigella Lawson. Asides from
the obvious fish and chips, I've been opened up to a new world of brown sauce, golden syrup, sticky toffee pudding, and treacle tart, to name a few things. "limey" > wrote in message ... > I know, I know. I'm going to talk about British cooking and I can hear the > shudders from here! > However, British cooking has come a long, long way from the boiled potatoes > and boiled cabbage of my youth, followed by good old Spotted Dick for > dessert. (Actually, I'm talking only about school food. My mother was an > excellent and imaginative cook.) > > The world invaded the British Isles some time back and the cooking now bears > the influence of so many nationalities and ethnicities. Indian, Chinese and > Italian eateries abound. However, the first link I list is the one I always > turn to when I want to find familiar recipes - it's excellent. The second > link will show how much more sophisticated British cooking has become. > > Helen's British Cooking Site - http://www.hwatson.force9.co.uk/ > BBC Food - http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/ > Delia Smith - http://www.deliasmith.co.uk > > Dora > > > > limey at toad dot net > > |
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"hahabogus" > wrote in message
... : "limey" > wrote in : : : : > I know, I know. I'm going to talk about British cooking and I can : > hear the shudders from here! : > However, British cooking has come a long, long way from the boiled : > potatoes and boiled cabbage of my youth, followed by good old Spotted : > Dick for dessert. (Actually, I'm talking only about school food. My : > mother was an excellent and imaginative cook.) : > : > The world invaded the British Isles some time back and the cooking now : > bears the influence of so many nationalities and ethnicities. Indian, : > Chinese and Italian eateries abound. However, the first link I list : > is the one I always turn to when I want to find familiar recipes - : > it's excellent. The second link will show how much more sophisticated : > British cooking has become. : > : > Helen's British Cooking Site - http://www.hwatson.force9.co.uk/ : > BBC Food - http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/ : > Delia Smith - http://www.deliasmith.co.uk : > : > Dora : > : > : > : > limey at toad dot net : > : > : > : : Don't forget the Britian of your youth was probably still on rationing : after world warII. : : -- :=========== Not! Dora is only 37 R.F.C. years old!! World War II was over several years before she was born! I look forward to looking through those sites Dora. Thank you for posting them. -- Cyndi <Remove a "b" to reply> |
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"Rick & Cyndi" > wrote in
news:v0FUb.185867$5V2.905741@attbi_s53: > Not! Dora is only 37 R.F.C. years old!! World War II was over > several years before she was born! > Britan was still on Rationing well into the late 50's and maybe the early 60's. Whole generations learned to cook poorly and make do because of the rationing. At least that's my theory. -- Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food and water. -------- FIELDS, W. C. |
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limey wrote:
> Delia Smith - http://www.deliasmith.co.uk Oh heavens not Delia!!! The woman should have her apron taken away with the bad info she gives and the fact that she is lawer than Ken Hom in TV ability just makes her even more annoying. I'll take Nigel Slater any day, or even AWT. At least they enjoy food and it shows. Boycott Delia!!!!!! Cristina - should be president of her anti fan club Info on Moving to Italy and Driving in Italy http://www.cristinasweb.com |
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"Rick & Cyndi" wrote in message > "hahabogus" > wrote in message > > : > > : > : Don't forget the Britian of your youth was probably still on > rationing > : after world warII. > : > > Not! Dora is only 37 R.F.C. years old!! World War II was over > several years before she was born! > > I look forward to looking through those sites Dora. Thank you > for posting them. > > Cyndi Thanks, Cyndi - we gals have to stick together, right? Dora |
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"hahabogus" wrote in message > > Britan was still on Rationing well into the late 50's and maybe the early > 60's. Whole generations learned to cook poorly and make do because of the > rationing. At least that's my theory. > Well, haha, the youth I'm talking about goes further back than post WWII - in retrospect, I think it was the 17th century? You're right about the post-war rationing. Dismal times. I wasn't allowed to learn to cook, because my mother couldn't risk my failures - not with one egg a week, two ounces of butter, four ounces of marg (ghastly stuff), a little lard and a miniscule amount of meat. Britons were ridiculed about the amount of baked beans on toast they ate as a main meal, but those beans kept us going. No wonder we were all sylph-like. Dora |
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On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 04:21:59 GMT, "Crookshanks"
> wrote: >I actually love British food, thanks in part to Nigella Lawson. Asides from >the obvious fish and chips, I've been opened up to a new world of brown >sauce, golden syrup, sticky toffee pudding, and treacle tart, to name a few >things. I have a cousin living in California who says she cannot buy golden syrup. Is it not readily available in the US? Daisy. Don't assume malice for what stupidity can explain. |
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My mother was cooking in England long before World War II even began
and she used her recipes etc. here in New Zealand well into the 1970s long after rationing had stopped here. The most comprehensive recipe books available here were from England - often accompanying the stove one bought! I have to say that her cooking was fairly bland, with little variation - and I think she probably reflected the Depression era type of cooking, where many English people simply couldn't afford the types of ingredients that are so common now. The BIG treat for the year was a sirloin roast of beef with Yorkshire Pudding! Followed by treacle tart and cream! I may be wrong in this summary, but as she is still alive at 97 and pretty alert, she says herself that many vegetables available now were quite unknown to her even 20 years ago. Until about 25 years ago I cannot remember ever seeing avocado, broccoli, capsicum, courgette, yam, or the many variants of even lettuce now so readily available in greengrocers shops. Daisy. Don't assume malice for what stupidity can explain. |
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"limey" < & Cyndi" & "hahabogus" < > wrote in
: message : > > : > : > : : > : Don't forget the Britian of your youth was probably still on : > rationing : > : after world warII. : > : : > : > Not! Dora is only 37 R.F.C. years old!! World War II was over : > several years before she was born! : > : > I look forward to looking through those sites Dora. Thank you : > for posting them. : > : > Cyndi : : Thanks, Cyndi - we gals have to stick together, right? : : Dora : === You Betcha!! -- Cyndi <Remove a "b" to reply> |
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British Cooking = Oxymoron
---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- Sheldon ```````````` "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." |
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hahabogus wrote:
> Britan was still on Rationing well into the late 50's and maybe the early > 60's. Whole generations learned to cook poorly and make do because of the > rationing. At least that's my theory. My father was in the air force and was stationed in the UK for three years during the war. As a result, there were two things that were never served in our house when I was a kid, lamb and Brussels Sprouts. I was raised on "English cooking". It wasn't so bad, other than over cooked beef and gooshy vegetables. There's nothing wrong with a nice roast of beef with gravy and Yorkshire pudding. Over cooking the beef can almost be justified by the nice beefy gravy that you can get from the juices. |
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"Daisy" > wrote in message ... > On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 04:21:59 GMT, "Crookshanks" > > wrote: > > >I actually love British food, thanks in part to Nigella Lawson. Asides from > >the obvious fish and chips, I've been opened up to a new world of brown > >sauce, golden syrup, sticky toffee pudding, and treacle tart, to name a few > >things. > > I have a cousin living in California who says she cannot buy golden > syrup. Is it not readily available in the US? Yes, you can buy it here. Cost Plus World Market now sells Lyles Golden Syrup. Also, most British import stores carry it. Never had a problem getting it. What part of California is your cousin in? I also live in Cali. Nadine |
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For the person who was looking for it, Lyle's Golden Syrup is available by
Googling it--there are many U:S: sources offering it. |
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Where in CA does your cousin live? I know at the grocery store at L.A.'s
Farmer's Market (the store next to Sur La Table) sells Lyle's Golden Syrup, as does Cost Plus World Market, and perhaps Bristol Farms. Hope your cousin finds it! P.S. Some cookbooks say you can sub light corn syrup, but it's totally different in taste! "Daisy" > wrote in message ... > On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 04:21:59 GMT, "Crookshanks" > > wrote: > > >I actually love British food, thanks in part to Nigella Lawson. Asides from > >the obvious fish and chips, I've been opened up to a new world of brown > >sauce, golden syrup, sticky toffee pudding, and treacle tart, to name a few > >things. > > I have a cousin living in California who says she cannot buy golden > syrup. Is it not readily available in the US? > > > Daisy. > > Don't assume malice for what stupidity can explain. |
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On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 14:17:00 -0500, "limey" >
arranged random neurons, so they looked like this: > >"hahabogus" wrote in message >> >> Britan was still on Rationing well into the late 50's and maybe the early >> 60's. Whole generations learned to cook poorly and make do because of the >> rationing. At least that's my theory. >> >Well, haha, the youth I'm talking about goes further back than post WWII - >in retrospect, I think it was the 17th century? > >You're right about the post-war rationing. Dismal times. I wasn't allowed >to learn to cook, because my mother couldn't risk my failures - not with one >egg a week, two ounces of butter, four ounces of marg (ghastly stuff), a >little lard and a miniscule amount of meat. Britons were ridiculed about >the amount of baked beans on toast they ate as a main meal, but those beans >kept us going. No wonder we were all sylph-like. > Okay, so 'splain Winston Churchill, Loosey <g> Seriously, the DH and I went to Lakenheath American HS in Suffolk in the mid-60s, which was a boarding school in those days, and our cooks were all Brits. We were snotty teenagers and I shudder to think what comments we made on the cafeteria line about the food. AFEX (Armed Forces EXchange Services) provided the food, but the Brits did the cooking and strange meals they often were, as the British cooks struggled with American provisions, cookbooks and menus. The latter 2 items often went out the window, AFAICS, and some, erm, "interesting" concoctions were served. We all learned to dread Fridays, however, as every non-meat leftover was pitched together and served over rice under the heading of "chow mein." I believe "economy" was the byword. Oh, and I will never, ever blame my nightmares about dried eggs on the Brits. That's strictly on the shoulders of AFEX. ;-) Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA "If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the waitress', it would have been a very good dinner." Anonymous. To reply, remove replace "shcox" with "cox" |
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"Daisy" > wrote in message ... > > I have a cousin living in California who says she cannot buy golden > syrup. Is it not readily available in the US? > > > Daisy. Advise her to go to her local Vons Supermarket when the strike is over. Charlie |
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 01:48:13 GMT, "Crookshanks"
> wrote: >Where in CA does your cousin live? I know at the grocery store at L.A.'s >Farmer's Market (the store next to Sur La Table) sells Lyle's Golden Syrup, >as does Cost Plus World Market, and perhaps Bristol Farms. Hope your cousin >finds it! > >P.S. Some cookbooks say you can sub light corn syrup, but it's totally >different in taste! >"Daisy" > wrote in message .. . >> On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 04:21:59 GMT, "Crookshanks" >> > wrote: >> >> >I actually love British food, thanks in part to Nigella Lawson. Asides >from >> >the obvious fish and chips, I've been opened up to a new world of brown >> >sauce, golden syrup, sticky toffee pudding, and treacle tart, to name a >few >> >things. >> >> I have a cousin living in California who says she cannot buy golden >> syrup. Is it not readily available in the US? >> >> >> Daisy. >> >> Don't assume malice for what stupidity can explain. > My cousin lives near Nevada City in Northern California. I think she is in a rural area. If you know of somewhere she can buy golden syrup in that area, I shall certainly tell her. She gets pretty desperate sometimes ... LOL Daisy. Don't assume malice for what stupidity can explain. |
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Daisy > wrote in
: > On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 01:48:13 GMT, "Crookshanks" > > wrote: > >>Where in CA does your cousin live? I know at the grocery store at >>L.A.'s Farmer's Market (the store next to Sur La Table) sells Lyle's >>Golden Syrup, as does Cost Plus World Market, and perhaps Bristol >>Farms. Hope your cousin finds it! >> >>P.S. Some cookbooks say you can sub light corn syrup, but it's totally >>different in taste! >>"Daisy" > wrote in message . .. >>> On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 04:21:59 GMT, "Crookshanks" >>> > wrote: >>> >>> >I actually love British food, thanks in part to Nigella Lawson. >>> >Asides >>from >>> >the obvious fish and chips, I've been opened up to a new world of >>> >brown sauce, golden syrup, sticky toffee pudding, and treacle tart, >>> >to name a >>few >>> >things. >>> >>> I have a cousin living in California who says she cannot buy golden >>> syrup. Is it not readily available in the US? >>> >>> >>> Daisy. >>> >>> Don't assume malice for what stupidity can explain. >> > My cousin lives near Nevada City in Northern California. I think she > is in a rural area. If you know of somewhere she can buy golden > syrup in that area, I shall certainly tell her. She gets pretty > desperate sometimes ... LOL > > Daisy. > > Don't assume malice for what stupidity can explain. > Why not order? http://shop.store.yahoo.com/farawayf...ldensyrup.html |
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In article k.net>,
"Crookshanks" > wrote: > I actually love British food, thanks in part to Nigella Lawson. > Asides from the obvious fish and chips, I've been opened up to a new > world of brown sauce, golden syrup, sticky toffee pudding, and > treacle tart, to name a few things. Those are wonderful things! I think that basics are what I think of when I think of British cooking, though. Things like roasting, baked goods and desserts, oh, and fish and chips. As for modern British cookery, I don't see it as any more British than people see American food as American, it is often borrowed from other cultures. Regards, Ranee -- Remove do not and spam to e-mail me. "The God who made the world and everything in it, being Lord of heaven and earth, does not live in shrines made by man." Acts 17:24 |
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Hey, Ranee! What would we do without good old fish and chips with malt
vinegar? Have you ever read the book "How To Eat" by Nigella? I highly recommend it- it's a good read even if you don't ever plan on cooking anything from it! "Ranee Mueller" > wrote in message ... > In article k.net>, > "Crookshanks" > wrote: > > > I actually love British food, thanks in part to Nigella Lawson. > > Asides from the obvious fish and chips, I've been opened up to a new > > world of brown sauce, golden syrup, sticky toffee pudding, and > > treacle tart, to name a few things. > > Those are wonderful things! I think that basics are what I think of > when I think of British cooking, though. Things like roasting, baked > goods and desserts, oh, and fish and chips. As for modern British > cookery, I don't see it as any more British than people see American > food as American, it is often borrowed from other cultures. > > Regards, > Ranee > > -- > Remove do not and spam to e-mail me. > > "The God who made the world and everything in it, being Lord of > heaven and earth, does not live in shrines made by man." Acts 17:24 |
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 09:19:48 GMT, "Charles Gifford"
> arranged random neurons, so they looked like this: > >"Daisy" > wrote in message .. . >> >> I have a cousin living in California who says she cannot buy golden >> syrup. Is it not readily available in the US? >> >> >> Daisy. > >Advise her to go to her local Vons Supermarket when the strike is over. > Hey, Charlie - didja see where our beloved CA attorney general is going to take on the supermarkets for antitrust violations? Seems the supermarkets not being struck are funding the ones that are - naughty, naughty! And Kroger, who have been crying in their beer that they have to reduce the workers' benefits in order to compete with Sprawlmart just gave their senior executives millions in bonuses. Man, am I sick of this strike and having to do most of my shopping at a hugely crowded Stater Bros.! Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA "If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the waitress', it would have been a very good dinner." Anonymous. To reply, remove replace "shcox" with "cox" |
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"Terry Pulliam Burd" > wrote in message ... <snip> > > Hey, Charlie - didja see where our beloved CA attorney general is > going to take on the supermarkets for antitrust violations? Seems the > supermarkets not being struck are funding the ones that are - naughty, > naughty! And Kroger, who have been crying in their beer that they have > to reduce the workers' benefits in order to compete with Sprawlmart > just gave their senior executives millions in bonuses. > > Man, am I sick of this strike and having to do most of my shopping at > a hugely crowded Stater Bros.! > > Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd Yes. I have been reading all the information avidly. All these mega companies are run by liars and greed, IMHO. I'm not sure how much shopping I will be doing at Vons when the strike is over. I am enjoying shopping at my local Mercado (and learning more Spanish too) and at Smart and Final (and saving money). The Supermercado is only a few blocks from my house and Vons is a 10 mile trip. Charlie |
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In message Ranee Mueller wrote:
> In article "Crookshanks" wrote: > > > I actually love British food > > Those are wonderful things! I think that basics are what I think of > when I think of British cooking, though. Things like roasting, baked > goods and desserts, oh, and fish and chips. As for modern British > cookery, I don't see it as any more British than people see American > food as American, it is often borrowed from other cultures. > It's interesting to see the wide divergence of viewpoints, coloured in the main I suppose, by historical reminiscences, folklore and in a minority of cases pure ignorance. It's as appropriate to declare British cooking as bland and boring as, on the other hand to state categorically that Americans are a grossly overweight nation, because they stuff themselves on big Macs and fries. There is much truth in your comments Ranee. We have moved on at speed since WW2 and the influx of many nationalities has had a resounding impact on the development and divergence of many chefs, cooks and the man in the street. We have Europeans by the handful: Italians, Germans, Austrians, Poles, Romanians, Slovacs, Greeks, Turks, French. We include a fair intake of New Zealanders, Canadians and Australians (mainly younger people). Then there many Africans as well as vast numbers of people from the Caribbean. We have also absorbed Chinese, Vietnamese, Japanese and Korean. Not forgetting millions of Indians and Pakistanis and nations from the Middle East. That's not the complete rundown of immigrants but it gives a fair indication of a population as widely divergent as America, a veritable hotpot of tastes and styles. Some of these natons have had a disproportional impact on the food tastes of Britains, for example, those from the Indian subcontinent and I would warrant that there are far more of us over here experiment with this style of cookery than in the whole population of the USA. We have moved far since my childhood during the war years. More or less any commodity can be obtained from any country so we are unrestricted. There are those who still cling to the simple tastes and they have every right to do so. Having said that I email weekly a farmers wife in Colorado, who states that her husband would only eat "meat and 2 veg" and strongly resisted at every turn her attempts to cook a more varied diet. And he is not on his own. So away with these stupid misconceptions and learn the truth. Having said that I have a great affinity with many Great British classics and attempt to develope these in my cooking. Don |
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penmartmutt wrote:
> >Don Gray > > > (PENMART01) wrote: > > > >> British Cooking = Oxymoron > >> > >> > >> > >> ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =--- > >> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- > >> Sheldon > >> ```````````` > >> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." > >> > >Learn to write Belgium correctly - it's a country. > > No, it's not... belgium is the rectum of France... thanks for noticing. > If you didn't have you head so firmly stuck up your arse, you might just get a true and accurate view of the world. Don |
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PENMART01 > wrote:
> British Cooking = Oxymoron > Sheldon = Plain Moron |
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