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On Sun, 28 May 2017 08:45:33 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote: >I've made tabouli many times and have always used fresh chopped mint >along with fresh chopped parsley. In fact, I don't like tabouli >without then mint. However, I cannot seem to locate any fresh mint >right now and welcome anyone's opinion on substituting dried mint in >the mix. > >TIA A couple of summers ago I experimented as I love fresh mint but it can't over winter on my balcony. Some I chopped and froze, some chopped and frozen in ice cubes, some just washed and frozen, some made into mint sauce. None truly retained the lovely flavour of fresh mint - so for me it's fresh or forget it. |
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lucretia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On Sun, 28 May 2017 08:45:33 GMT, Wayne Boatwright > > wrote: > > > I've made tabouli many times and have always used fresh chopped > > mint along with fresh chopped parsley. In fact, I don't like > > tabouli without then mint. However, I cannot seem to locate any > > fresh mint right now and welcome anyone's opinion on substituting > > dried mint in the mix. > > > > TIA > > A couple of summers ago I experimented as I love fresh mint but it > can't over winter on my balcony. Some I chopped and froze, some > chopped and frozen in ice cubes, some just washed and frozen, some > made into mint sauce. None truly retained the lovely flavour of fresh > mint - so for me it's fresh or forget it. It is pretty easy to grow from seed so maybe start some more? -- |
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On Sun, 28 May 2017 06:58:18 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>lucretia wrote in rec.food.cooking: > >> On Sun, 28 May 2017 08:45:33 GMT, Wayne Boatwright >> > wrote: >> >> > I've made tabouli many times and have always used fresh chopped >> > mint along with fresh chopped parsley. In fact, I don't like >> > tabouli without then mint. However, I cannot seem to locate any >> > fresh mint right now and welcome anyone's opinion on substituting >> > dried mint in the mix. >> > >> > TIA >> >> A couple of summers ago I experimented as I love fresh mint but it >> can't over winter on my balcony. Some I chopped and froze, some >> chopped and frozen in ice cubes, some just washed and frozen, some >> made into mint sauce. None truly retained the lovely flavour of fresh >> mint - so for me it's fresh or forget it. > >It is pretty easy to grow from seed so maybe start some more? I grow it new EVERY year, but as I said, it can't over winter allowing me to cut some in the depths of winter! If the pot is brought in for the winter it will hang in but again, loses the vibrant flavour. |
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lucretia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On Sun, 28 May 2017 06:58:18 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote: > > > lucretia wrote in rec.food.cooking: > > > >> On Sun, 28 May 2017 08:45:33 GMT, Wayne Boatwright > >> > wrote: > >> > >> > I've made tabouli many times and have always used fresh chopped > >> > mint along with fresh chopped parsley. In fact, I don't like > >> > tabouli without then mint. However, I cannot seem to locate any > >> > fresh mint right now and welcome anyone's opinion on substituting > >> > dried mint in the mix. > >> > > >> > TIA > >> > >> A couple of summers ago I experimented as I love fresh mint but it > >> can't over winter on my balcony. Some I chopped and froze, some > >> chopped and frozen in ice cubes, some just washed and frozen, some > >> made into mint sauce. None truly retained the lovely flavour of > fresh >> mint - so for me it's fresh or forget it. > > > > It is pretty easy to grow from seed so maybe start some more? > > I grow it new EVERY year, but as I said, it can't over winter allowing > me to cut some in the depths of winter! If the pot is brought in for > the winter it will hang in but again, loses the vibrant flavour. I planted a patch in 1995 in a contained area along my fence along with some chives. The chives are still thriving. ;-) For whatever reason, I've not grown much in the arena of herbs. Just one lavendar (was supposed to be a rosemary but until it bloomed, didnt realize it). That plant lasted 6 years until 2 winters ago, it didnt come back. -- |
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On 2017-05-28 9:05 AM, cshenk wrote:
>> I grow it new EVERY year, but as I said, it can't over winter allowing >> me to cut some in the depths of winter! If the pot is brought in for >> the winter it will hang in but again, loses the vibrant flavour. > > I planted a patch in 1995 in a contained area along my fence along with > some chives. The chives are still thriving. ;-) > > For whatever reason, I've not grown much in the arena of herbs. Just > one lavendar (was supposed to be a rosemary but until it bloomed, didnt > realize it). That plant lasted 6 years until 2 winters ago, it didnt > come back. I have mint in my back yard. It is nice to use fresh. I have tried tried mint and it is a far cry from fresh. The only thing it is much useful for is mint sauce, and that is inferior to fresh. I have lived her for 40 years and have always had patches of chives growing in various places. It is curious that the place it grows best is at the base of one of the black walnut trees, because those trees killed everything else that I tried to grow back there. |
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On Sun, 28 May 2017 08:05:10 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>lucretia wrote in rec.food.cooking: > >> On Sun, 28 May 2017 06:58:18 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote: >> >> > lucretia wrote in rec.food.cooking: >> > >> >> On Sun, 28 May 2017 08:45:33 GMT, Wayne Boatwright >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> > I've made tabouli many times and have always used fresh chopped >> >> > mint along with fresh chopped parsley. In fact, I don't like >> >> > tabouli without then mint. However, I cannot seem to locate any >> >> > fresh mint right now and welcome anyone's opinion on substituting >> >> > dried mint in the mix. >> >> > >> >> > TIA >> >> >> >> A couple of summers ago I experimented as I love fresh mint but it >> >> can't over winter on my balcony. Some I chopped and froze, some >> >> chopped and frozen in ice cubes, some just washed and frozen, some >> >> made into mint sauce. None truly retained the lovely flavour of >> fresh >> mint - so for me it's fresh or forget it. >> > >> > It is pretty easy to grow from seed so maybe start some more? >> >> I grow it new EVERY year, but as I said, it can't over winter allowing >> me to cut some in the depths of winter! If the pot is brought in for >> the winter it will hang in but again, loses the vibrant flavour. > >I planted a patch in 1995 in a contained area along my fence along with >some chives. The chives are still thriving. ;-) > >For whatever reason, I've not grown much in the arena of herbs. Just >one lavendar (was supposed to be a rosemary but until it bloomed, didnt >realize it). That plant lasted 6 years until 2 winters ago, it didnt >come back. Although I now live in a condo I am an experienced gardener and mint cannot, even in a fibre glass lined pot, survive our winter. The chives do, but not the mint. |
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On Sun, 28 May 2017 09:11:57 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2017-05-28 9:05 AM, cshenk wrote: > >>> I grow it new EVERY year, but as I said, it can't over winter allowing >>> me to cut some in the depths of winter! If the pot is brought in for >>> the winter it will hang in but again, loses the vibrant flavour. >> >> I planted a patch in 1995 in a contained area along my fence along with >> some chives. The chives are still thriving. ;-) >> >> For whatever reason, I've not grown much in the arena of herbs. Just >> one lavendar (was supposed to be a rosemary but until it bloomed, didnt >> realize it). That plant lasted 6 years until 2 winters ago, it didnt >> come back. > > >I have mint in my back yard. It is nice to use fresh. I have tried tried >mint and it is a far cry from fresh. The only thing it is much useful >for is mint sauce, and that is inferior to fresh. > >I have lived her for 40 years and have always had patches of chives >growing in various places. It is curious that the place it grows best is >at the base of one of the black walnut trees, because those trees killed > everything else that I tried to grow back there. > I didn't have any problem with mint in a garden but on a cement balcony in our winter, it's a no go. I lined the pot with fibre glass but even that wasn't enough. Chives seem hardier, mine are up and flourishing in their pot and it's the same pot they've lived in for ten years now! Talk about a no care plant. I tried a couple of years ago storing mint every which way I could think of but it loses it's bite no matter what. Even buying some fresh mint from hydroponic greenhouses through the winter comes in second to fresh. |
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Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On 2017-05-28 9:05 AM, cshenk wrote: > > > > I grow it new EVERY year, but as I said, it can't over winter > > > allowing me to cut some in the depths of winter! If the pot is > > > brought in for the winter it will hang in but again, loses the > > > vibrant flavour. > > > > I planted a patch in 1995 in a contained area along my fence along > > with some chives. The chives are still thriving. ;-) > > > > For whatever reason, I've not grown much in the arena of herbs. > > Just one lavendar (was supposed to be a rosemary but until it > > bloomed, didnt realize it). That plant lasted 6 years until 2 > > winters ago, it didnt come back. > > > I have mint in my back yard. It is nice to use fresh. I have tried > tried mint and it is a far cry from fresh. The only thing it is much > useful for is mint sauce, and that is inferior to fresh. > > I have lived her for 40 years and have always had patches of chives > growing in various places. It is curious that the place it grows best > is at the base of one of the black walnut trees, because those trees > killed everything else that I tried to grow back there. LOL! My chive patch is at the base of a Pecan and that tree kills other plants too. -- |
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On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 8:28:48 AM UTC-4, lucretia wrote:
> On Sun, 28 May 2017 06:58:18 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote: > > >lucretia wrote in rec.food.cooking: > > > >> On Sun, 28 May 2017 08:45:33 GMT, Wayne Boatwright > >> > wrote: > >> > >> > I've made tabouli many times and have always used fresh chopped > >> > mint along with fresh chopped parsley. In fact, I don't like > >> > tabouli without then mint. However, I cannot seem to locate any > >> > fresh mint right now and welcome anyone's opinion on substituting > >> > dried mint in the mix. > >> > > >> > TIA > >> > >> A couple of summers ago I experimented as I love fresh mint but it > >> can't over winter on my balcony. Some I chopped and froze, some > >> chopped and frozen in ice cubes, some just washed and frozen, some > >> made into mint sauce. None truly retained the lovely flavour of fresh > >> mint - so for me it's fresh or forget it. > > > >It is pretty easy to grow from seed so maybe start some more? > > I grow it new EVERY year, but as I said, it can't over winter allowing > me to cut some in the depths of winter! If the pot is brought in for > the winter it will hang in but again, loses the vibrant flavour. I grow mint in a pot on the patio every summer. I could grow it in the ground, but I'm a little reluctant to put it in and watch it take over wherever I plant it. OTOH, I've got two acres. If I planted it in the "back 40", it would be ages before it marched up to the house. And my lawnmower would smell minty fresh. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Sun, 28 May 2017 07:07:41 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 8:28:48 AM UTC-4, lucretia wrote: >> On Sun, 28 May 2017 06:58:18 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote: >> >> >lucretia wrote in rec.food.cooking: >> > >> >> On Sun, 28 May 2017 08:45:33 GMT, Wayne Boatwright >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> > I've made tabouli many times and have always used fresh chopped >> >> > mint along with fresh chopped parsley. In fact, I don't like >> >> > tabouli without then mint. However, I cannot seem to locate any >> >> > fresh mint right now and welcome anyone's opinion on substituting >> >> > dried mint in the mix. >> >> > >> >> > TIA >> >> >> >> A couple of summers ago I experimented as I love fresh mint but it >> >> can't over winter on my balcony. Some I chopped and froze, some >> >> chopped and frozen in ice cubes, some just washed and frozen, some >> >> made into mint sauce. None truly retained the lovely flavour of fresh >> >> mint - so for me it's fresh or forget it. >> > >> >It is pretty easy to grow from seed so maybe start some more? >> >> I grow it new EVERY year, but as I said, it can't over winter allowing >> me to cut some in the depths of winter! If the pot is brought in for >> the winter it will hang in but again, loses the vibrant flavour. > >I grow mint in a pot on the patio every summer. I could grow it in >the ground, but I'm a little reluctant to put it in and watch it >take over wherever I plant it. OTOH, I've got two acres. If I >planted it in the "back 40", it would be ages before it marched >up to the house. And my lawnmower would smell minty fresh. > >Cindy Hamilton When I planted it in the garden I used an old bucket and drilled holes in it. Then planted the whole thing, it stayed nicely contained, as far as I know it still is. |
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lucretia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On Sun, 28 May 2017 09:11:57 -0400, Dave Smith > > wrote: > > > On 2017-05-28 9:05 AM, cshenk wrote: > > > >>> I grow it new EVERY year, but as I said, it can't over winter > allowing >>> me to cut some in the depths of winter! If the pot is > brought in for >>> the winter it will hang in but again, loses the > vibrant flavour. >> > >> I planted a patch in 1995 in a contained area along my fence along > with >> some chives. The chives are still thriving. ;-) > >> > >> For whatever reason, I've not grown much in the arena of herbs. > Just >> one lavendar (was supposed to be a rosemary but until it > bloomed, didnt >> realize it). That plant lasted 6 years until 2 > winters ago, it didnt >> come back. > > > > > > I have mint in my back yard. It is nice to use fresh. I have tried > > tried mint and it is a far cry from fresh. The only thing it is > > much useful for is mint sauce, and that is inferior to fresh. > > > > I have lived her for 40 years and have always had patches of > > chives growing in various places. It is curious that the place it > > grows best is at the base of one of the black walnut trees, because > > those trees killed everything else that I tried to grow back there. > > > > I didn't have any problem with mint in a garden but on a cement > balcony in our winter, it's a no go. I lined the pot with fibre glass > but even that wasn't enough. Chives seem hardier, mine are up and > flourishing in their pot and it's the same pot they've lived in for > ten years now! Talk about a no care plant. > > I tried a couple of years ago storing mint every which way I could > think of but it loses it's bite no matter what. Even buying some > fresh mint from hydroponic greenhouses through the winter comes in > second to fresh. I guess I'm lucky that my cookery isn't using mint much then! I too container garden and have been all my life it seems in various apartments we lived in over military moves. I do it here too in the house we bought because I have no clue what runoff I have from neighbors now plus we don't have a choice on flea and tick treating our own back yard. Although what we use for that is supposed to be environmentally safe, I don't like the idea of eating fruits and veggies that have been sprayed with it. It also helps my back a lot since containers are easy to rise and my husband built us raised holders. Front yard however has my 2 apple trees which only treatment used is a light spray soapy water (shaved Ivory soap mixed with water) and eggshells at the base for calcium (helps prevent blossom rot). Right now I have 4 good looking tomato plants, some failed lettuce (old seed, need to get fresh as only 1/2 came up), a few milder chile types, and something else I planted that may be squash (I've forgotten type) and some promising cucumbers. One other planter has a lot of green onions now coming up. The apple trees look good to again yield some 200 small ones each. I'm at the stage where a commercial grower filters them out so as to get bigger ones but I leave them be and get a long crop of smaller ones, with an average of 3 months yield. -- |
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lucretia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On Sun, 28 May 2017 08:05:10 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote: > > > lucretia wrote in rec.food.cooking: > > > >> On Sun, 28 May 2017 06:58:18 -0500, "cshenk" > > wrote: >> > >> > lucretia wrote in rec.food.cooking: > >> > > >> >> On Sun, 28 May 2017 08:45:33 GMT, Wayne Boatwright > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > I've made tabouli many times and have always used fresh > chopped >> >> > mint along with fresh chopped parsley. In fact, I > don't like >> >> > tabouli without then mint. However, I cannot seem > to locate any >> >> > fresh mint right now and welcome anyone's > opinion on substituting >> >> > dried mint in the mix. > >> >> > > >> >> > TIA > >> >> > >> >> A couple of summers ago I experimented as I love fresh mint but > it >> >> can't over winter on my balcony. Some I chopped and froze, > some >> >> chopped and frozen in ice cubes, some just washed and > frozen, some >> >> made into mint sauce. None truly retained the > lovely flavour of >> fresh >> mint - so for me it's fresh or forget > it. >> > > >> > It is pretty easy to grow from seed so maybe start some more? > >> > >> I grow it new EVERY year, but as I said, it can't over winter > allowing >> me to cut some in the depths of winter! If the pot is > brought in for >> the winter it will hang in but again, loses the > vibrant flavour. > > > > I planted a patch in 1995 in a contained area along my fence along > > with some chives. The chives are still thriving. ;-) > > > > For whatever reason, I've not grown much in the arena of herbs. > > Just one lavendar (was supposed to be a rosemary but until it > > bloomed, didnt realize it). That plant lasted 6 years until 2 > > winters ago, it didnt come back. > > Although I now live in a condo I am an experienced gardener and mint > cannot, even in a fibre glass lined pot, survive our winter. The > chives do, but not the mint. Good to know! I'm not particularily experienced at gardening, other than container types. I'm happy enough with the results I get. Biggest thing I need to get is more lettuce seeds. I need them for my dog (laugh, long story, short version is stool softening for a Tramadol issue). -- |
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On Sun, 28 May 2017 10:54:41 -0300, lucretia
> wrote: snip > >I tried a couple of years ago storing mint every which way I could >think of but it loses it's bite no matter what. Even buying some >fresh mint from hydroponic greenhouses through the winter comes in >second to fresh. I came to the conclusion some years ago that to really exhibit the full range of aroma and taste, herbs need to be exposed to sun and breeze. Even those herbs grown indoors can't demonstrate the same characteristics. Janet US |
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On 2017-05-28 9:54 AM, lucretia wrote:
> On Sun, 28 May 2017 09:11:57 -0400, Dave Smith > > wrote: > > I didn't have any problem with mint in a garden but on a cement > balcony in our winter, it's a no go. I lined the pot with fibre glass > but even that wasn't enough. Chives seem hardier, mine are up and > flourishing in their pot and it's the same pot they've lived in for > ten years now! Talk about a no care plant. > > I tried a couple of years ago storing mint every which way I could > think of but it loses it's bite no matter what. Even buying some > fresh mint from hydroponic greenhouses through the winter comes in > second to fresh. I hate to tell you, but fibreglass insulation might do more harm that good. It works too ways, not so much keeping heat in, but restricting the transfer of heat either way. If it is sitting outside for the winter it is likely to freeze after an extended period of cold. Once that happens it is going to stay cold. When you start getting periods of sunlight that could warm it up, that insulation is going to keep it frozen. FWIW, I have some mint in a small planter beside the patio and it comes back every year. It looks a little scraggly at first, but all you need is on or two stems with roots in the soil and you soon have a potful of mint. |
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On 2017-05-28 10:07 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 8:28:48 AM UTC-4, lucretia wrote: >> On Sun, 28 May 2017 06:58:18 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote: >> >>> lucretia wrote in rec.food.cooking: >>> >>>> On Sun, 28 May 2017 08:45:33 GMT, Wayne Boatwright >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've made tabouli many times and have always used fresh chopped >>>>> mint along with fresh chopped parsley. In fact, I don't like >>>>> tabouli without then mint. However, I cannot seem to locate any >>>>> fresh mint right now and welcome anyone's opinion on substituting >>>>> dried mint in the mix. >>>>> >>>>> TIA >>>> >>>> A couple of summers ago I experimented as I love fresh mint but it >>>> can't over winter on my balcony. Some I chopped and froze, some >>>> chopped and frozen in ice cubes, some just washed and frozen, some >>>> made into mint sauce. None truly retained the lovely flavour of fresh >>>> mint - so for me it's fresh or forget it. >>> >>> It is pretty easy to grow from seed so maybe start some more? >> >> I grow it new EVERY year, but as I said, it can't over winter allowing >> me to cut some in the depths of winter! If the pot is brought in for >> the winter it will hang in but again, loses the vibrant flavour. > > I grow mint in a pot on the patio every summer. I could grow it in > the ground, but I'm a little reluctant to put it in and watch it > take over wherever I plant it. OTOH, I've got two acres. If I > planted it in the "back 40", it would be ages before it marched > up to the house. And my lawnmower would smell minty fresh. > I have some growing by my compost bin. It started off in pots to contain the roots, but I guess some seeds fell outside so it started to growing a larger patch on its own. It has been there for at least 10 years and has not invaded the lawn. |
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On Sun, 28 May 2017 12:03:02 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2017-05-28 9:54 AM, lucretia wrote: >> On Sun, 28 May 2017 09:11:57 -0400, Dave Smith >> > wrote: >> >> I didn't have any problem with mint in a garden but on a cement >> balcony in our winter, it's a no go. I lined the pot with fibre glass >> but even that wasn't enough. Chives seem hardier, mine are up and >> flourishing in their pot and it's the same pot they've lived in for >> ten years now! Talk about a no care plant. >> >> I tried a couple of years ago storing mint every which way I could >> think of but it loses it's bite no matter what. Even buying some >> fresh mint from hydroponic greenhouses through the winter comes in >> second to fresh. > >I hate to tell you, but fibreglass insulation might do more harm that >good. It works too ways, not so much keeping heat in, but restricting >the transfer of heat either way. If it is sitting outside for the >winter it is likely to freeze after an extended period of cold. Once >that happens it is going to stay cold. When you start getting periods of >sunlight that could warm it up, that insulation is going to keep it >frozen. FWIW, I have some mint in a small planter beside the patio and >it comes back every year. It looks a little scraggly at first, but all >you need is on or two stems with roots in the soil and you soon have a >potful of mint. > > > That's not really a comparison - my pot was on a concrete floor with 30-40 ft airspace below plus the harsh environment around it. Fibre glass pot lining did well for other things, but not the mint. |
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Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On 2017-05-28 9:54 AM, lucretia wrote: > > On Sun, 28 May 2017 09:11:57 -0400, Dave Smith > > wrote: > > > > I didn't have any problem with mint in a garden but on a cement > > balcony in our winter, it's a no go. I lined the pot with fibre > > glass but even that wasn't enough. Chives seem hardier, mine are > > up and flourishing in their pot and it's the same pot they've lived > > in for ten years now! Talk about a no care plant. > > > > I tried a couple of years ago storing mint every which way I could > > think of but it loses it's bite no matter what. Even buying some > > fresh mint from hydroponic greenhouses through the winter comes in > > second to fresh. > > I hate to tell you, but fibreglass insulation might do more harm > that good. It works too ways, not so much keeping heat in, but > restricting the transfer of heat either way. If it is sitting > outside for the winter it is likely to freeze after an extended > period of cold. Once that happens it is going to stay cold. When you > start getting periods of sunlight that could warm it up, that > insulation is going to keep it frozen. FWIW, I have some mint in a > small planter beside the patio and it comes back every year. It > looks a little scraggly at first, but all you need is on or two stems > with roots in the soil and you soon have a potful of mint. Well, I don't know how cold it is where he is. I'm in Virginia Beach and with effort, I can possibly winter over mint but mostly here, it just comes back up in Spring. -- |
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On 5/28/2017 1:40 PM, cshenk wrote:
> >> On 2017-05-28 9:54 AM, lucretia wrote: >>> >>> I didn't have any problem with mint in a garden but on a cement >>> balcony in our winter, it's a no go. (snippage) > > Well, I don't know how cold it is where he is. I'm in Virginia Beach > and with effort, I can possibly winter over mint but mostly here, it > just comes back up in Spring. > Lucretia is in Canada (so is Dave, he's up near Niagara Falls)... I forget which province lucretia is in. I do believe it gets a heck of a lot colder in the winter there than it does in Virginia Beach. Jill |
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On 5/29/2017 8:22 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> Lucretia is in Canada (so is Dave, he's up near Niagara Falls)... I > forget which province lucretia is in. I do believe it gets a heck of a > lot colder in the winter there than it does in Virginia Beach. You are correct. BTW, Lucretia lives much farther north than Dave does. |
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jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On 5/28/2017 1:40 PM, cshenk wrote: > > > > > On 2017-05-28 9:54 AM, lucretia wrote: > > > > > > > > I didn't have any problem with mint in a garden but on a cement > > > > balcony in our winter, it's a no go. > (snippage) > > > > Well, I don't know how cold it is where he is. I'm in Virginia > > Beach and with effort, I can possibly winter over mint but mostly > > here, it just comes back up in Spring. > > > Lucretia is in Canada (so is Dave, he's up near Niagara Falls)... I > forget which province lucretia is in. I do believe it gets a heck of > a lot colder in the winter there than it does in Virginia Beach. > > Jill Then it totally makes sense that they can't do more than plant fresh come spring for some things! -- |
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On Mon, 29 May 2017 10:51:21 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking: > >> On 5/28/2017 1:40 PM, cshenk wrote: >> > >> > > On 2017-05-28 9:54 AM, lucretia wrote: >> > > > >> > > > I didn't have any problem with mint in a garden but on a cement >> > > > balcony in our winter, it's a no go. >> (snippage) >> > >> > Well, I don't know how cold it is where he is. I'm in Virginia >> > Beach and with effort, I can possibly winter over mint but mostly >> > here, it just comes back up in Spring. >> > >> Lucretia is in Canada (so is Dave, he's up near Niagara Falls)... I >> forget which province lucretia is in. I do believe it gets a heck of >> a lot colder in the winter there than it does in Virginia Beach. >> >> Jill > >Then it totally makes sense that they can't do more than plant fresh >come spring for some things! It gets colder than a witch's tit here in winter and mint grows like the dickens. Mint grows along the banks of my creek and in other wet spots that I mow. Mint seems to like shady wet spots... perhaps yoose gals can grow some in your beds. hehe |
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On Mon, 29 May 2017 15:07:49 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
wrote in rec.food.cooking: > >> On Mon, 29 May 2017 10:51:21 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote: >> >> > jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking: >> > >> >> On 5/28/2017 1:40 PM, cshenk wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > On 2017-05-28 9:54 AM, lucretia wrote: >> >> > > > >> >> > > > I didn't have any problem with mint in a garden but on a >> cement >> > > > balcony in our winter, it's a no go. >> >> (snippage) >> >> > >> >> > Well, I don't know how cold it is where he is. I'm in Virginia >> >> > Beach and with effort, I can possibly winter over mint but mostly >> >> > here, it just comes back up in Spring. >> >> > >> >> Lucretia is in Canada (so is Dave, he's up near Niagara Falls)... I >> >> forget which province lucretia is in. I do believe it gets a heck >> of >> a lot colder in the winter there than it does in Virginia Beach. >> >> >> >> Jill >> > >> > Then it totally makes sense that they can't do more than plant fresh >> > come spring for some things! >> >> It gets colder than a witch's tit here in winter and mint grows like >> the dickens. Mint grows along the banks of my creek and in other wet >> spots that I mow. Mint seems to like shady wet spots.. > >They are talking about it growing in winter, not coming up next spring. they are talking about it not making it through the winter to come up again next spring. |
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Sheldon wrote:
> On Mon, 29 May 2017 10:51:21 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote: > > >jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking: > > > >> On 5/28/2017 1:40 PM, cshenk wrote: > >> > > >> > > On 2017-05-28 9:54 AM, lucretia wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > I didn't have any problem with mint in a garden but on a cement > >> > > > balcony in our winter, it's a no go. > >> (snippage) > >> > > >> > Well, I don't know how cold it is where he is. I'm in Virginia > >> > Beach and with effort, I can possibly winter over mint but mostly > >> > here, it just comes back up in Spring. > >> > > >> Lucretia is in Canada (so is Dave, he's up near Niagara Falls)... I > >> forget which province lucretia is in. I do believe it gets a heck of > >> a lot colder in the winter there than it does in Virginia Beach. > >> > >> Jill > > > >Then it totally makes sense that they can't do more than plant fresh > >come spring for some things! > > It gets colder than a witch's tit here in winter and mint grows like > the dickens. Mint grows along the banks of my creek and in other wet > spots that I mow. Mint seems to like shady wet spots... perhaps > yoose gals can grow some in your beds. hehe Yer talkin' some very *frigid* places... ;-) -- Best Greg |
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On Mon, 29 May 2017 16:41:08 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>On 5/29/2017 4:26 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >> On Mon, 29 May 2017 15:07:49 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote: >> >>> wrote in rec.food.cooking: >>> >>>> On Mon, 29 May 2017 10:51:21 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote: >>>> >>>>> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking: >>>>> >>>>>> On 5/28/2017 1:40 PM, cshenk wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2017-05-28 9:54 AM, lucretia wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I didn't have any problem with mint in a garden but on a >>>> cement >> > > > balcony in our winter, it's a no go. >>>>>> (snippage) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, I don't know how cold it is where he is. I'm in Virginia >>>>>>> Beach and with effort, I can possibly winter over mint but mostly >>>>>>> here, it just comes back up in Spring. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Lucretia is in Canada (so is Dave, he's up near Niagara Falls)... I >>>>>> forget which province lucretia is in. I do believe it gets a heck >>>> of >> a lot colder in the winter there than it does in Virginia Beach. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jill >>>>> >>>>> Then it totally makes sense that they can't do more than plant fresh >>>>> come spring for some things! >>>> >>>> It gets colder than a witch's tit here in winter and mint grows like >>>> the dickens. Mint grows along the banks of my creek and in other wet >>>> spots that I mow. Mint seems to like shady wet spots.. >>> >>> They are talking about it growing in winter, not coming up next spring. >> >> they are talking about it not making it through the winter to come up >> again next spring. >> > >It takes a lot of cold for that. Here in CT we have our share of zero >days but the mint has been coming up for a couple of decades. We don't >use much, but a julep is nice at times. It is in the ground though, not >in a pot that is affected more by temperature swings. Exactly, especially on a balcony thirty foot up |
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On Mon, 29 May 2017 18:49:34 -0300, lucretia
> wrote: >On Mon, 29 May 2017 16:41:08 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > >>On 5/29/2017 4:26 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >>> On Mon, 29 May 2017 15:07:49 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote: >>> >>>> wrote in rec.food.cooking: >>>> >>>>> On Mon, 29 May 2017 10:51:21 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 5/28/2017 1:40 PM, cshenk wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2017-05-28 9:54 AM, lucretia wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I didn't have any problem with mint in a garden but on a >>>>> cement >> > > > balcony in our winter, it's a no go. >>>>>>> (snippage) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, I don't know how cold it is where he is. I'm in Virginia >>>>>>>> Beach and with effort, I can possibly winter over mint but mostly >>>>>>>> here, it just comes back up in Spring. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lucretia is in Canada (so is Dave, he's up near Niagara Falls)... I >>>>>>> forget which province lucretia is in. I do believe it gets a heck >>>>> of >> a lot colder in the winter there than it does in Virginia Beach. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jill >>>>>> >>>>>> Then it totally makes sense that they can't do more than plant fresh >>>>>> come spring for some things! >>>>> >>>>> It gets colder than a witch's tit here in winter and mint grows like >>>>> the dickens. Mint grows along the banks of my creek and in other wet >>>>> spots that I mow. Mint seems to like shady wet spots.. >>>> >>>> They are talking about it growing in winter, not coming up next spring. >>> >>> they are talking about it not making it through the winter to come up >>> again next spring. >>> >> >>It takes a lot of cold for that. Here in CT we have our share of zero >>days but the mint has been coming up for a couple of decades. We don't >>use much, but a julep is nice at times. It is in the ground though, not >>in a pot that is affected more by temperature swings. > >Exactly, especially on a balcony thirty foot up My mint has been growing down by the creek for 50 years. The ducks have eaten it down beyond the surface of the earth and it still keeps coming back and spreading. However, the one time I tried growing it in a pot up on the deck it did not survive the winter. Janet US |
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On 5/29/2017 11:51 AM, cshenk wrote:
> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking: > >> On 5/28/2017 1:40 PM, cshenk wrote: >>> >>>> On 2017-05-28 9:54 AM, lucretia wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I didn't have any problem with mint in a garden but on a cement >>>>> balcony in our winter, it's a no go. >> (snippage) >>> >>> Well, I don't know how cold it is where he is. I'm in Virginia >>> Beach and with effort, I can possibly winter over mint but mostly >>> here, it just comes back up in Spring. >>> >> Lucretia is in Canada (so is Dave, he's up near Niagara Falls)... I >> forget which province lucretia is in. I do believe it gets a heck of >> a lot colder in the winter there than it does in Virginia Beach. >> >> Jill > > Then it totally makes sense that they can't do more than plant fresh > come spring for some things! > Yes, that's why it makes perfect sense she can't grow fresh mint in a pot on her cement balcony. In the winter. Jill |
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On Mon, 29 May 2017 13:59:25 -0700 (PDT), "The Greatest!"
> wrote: >Sheldon wrote: > >> On Mon, 29 May 2017 10:51:21 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote: >> >> >jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking: >> > >> >> On 5/28/2017 1:40 PM, cshenk wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > On 2017-05-28 9:54 AM, lucretia wrote: >> >> > > > >> >> > > > I didn't have any problem with mint in a garden but on a cement >> >> > > > balcony in our winter, it's a no go. >> >> (snippage) >> >> > >> >> > Well, I don't know how cold it is where he is. I'm in Virginia >> >> > Beach and with effort, I can possibly winter over mint but mostly >> >> > here, it just comes back up in Spring. >> >> > >> >> Lucretia is in Canada (so is Dave, he's up near Niagara Falls)... I >> >> forget which province lucretia is in. I do believe it gets a heck of >> >> a lot colder in the winter there than it does in Virginia Beach. >> >> >> >> Jill >> > >> >Then it totally makes sense that they can't do more than plant fresh >> >come spring for some things! >> >> It gets colder than a witch's tit here in winter and mint grows like >> the dickens. Mint grows along the banks of my creek and in other wet >> spots that I mow. Mint seems to like shady wet spots... perhaps >> yoose gals can grow some in your beds. hehe > > >Yer talkin' some very *frigid* places... > >;-) Probably icicles. |
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In article >,
says... > > On Sun, 28 May 2017 10:54:41 -0300, lucretia > > wrote: > > snip > > > >I tried a couple of years ago storing mint every which way I could > >think of but it loses it's bite no matter what. Even buying some > >fresh mint from hydroponic greenhouses through the winter comes in > >second to fresh. > > I came to the conclusion some years ago that to really exhibit the > full range of aroma and taste, herbs need to be exposed to sun and > breeze. Even those herbs grown indoors can't demonstrate the same > characteristics. > Janet US +1. In the garden I grow half a dozen mints; rosemary,bay, lovage, fennel, two sages, several thymes,marjoram, lemon balm, oregano. They all survive year to year (mint, chives, garlic chives, borage,fennel and lovage die right back below ground in winter). Most of them seed or spread themselves around, except parsley and coriander which I plant new every year. Corner of herb garden http://jaybeesgarden.org.uk/extras/DSCF0568.JPG Janet UK |
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"Janet" wrote in message
.. . In article >, says... > > On Sun, 28 May 2017 10:54:41 -0300, lucretia > > wrote: > > snip > > > >I tried a couple of years ago storing mint every which way I could > >think of but it loses it's bite no matter what. Even buying some > >fresh mint from hydroponic greenhouses through the winter comes in > >second to fresh. > > I came to the conclusion some years ago that to really exhibit the > full range of aroma and taste, herbs need to be exposed to sun and > breeze. Even those herbs grown indoors can't demonstrate the same > characteristics. > Janet US +1. In the garden I grow half a dozen mints; rosemary,bay, lovage, fennel, two sages, several thymes,marjoram, lemon balm, oregano. They all survive year to year (mint, chives, garlic chives, borage,fennel and lovage die right back below ground in winter). Most of them seed or spread themselves around, except parsley and coriander which I plant new every year. Corner of herb garden http://jaybeesgarden.org.uk/extras/DSCF0568.JPG Janet UK === But not YOUR herb garden -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Tue, 30 May 2017 15:07:04 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>In article >, >says... >> >> On Sun, 28 May 2017 10:54:41 -0300, lucretia >> > wrote: >> >> snip >> > >> >I tried a couple of years ago storing mint every which way I could >> >think of but it loses it's bite no matter what. Even buying some >> >fresh mint from hydroponic greenhouses through the winter comes in >> >second to fresh. >> >> I came to the conclusion some years ago that to really exhibit the >> full range of aroma and taste, herbs need to be exposed to sun and >> breeze. Even those herbs grown indoors can't demonstrate the same >> characteristics. >> Janet US > > +1. > > In the garden I grow half a dozen mints; rosemary,bay, lovage, fennel, >two sages, several thymes,marjoram, lemon balm, oregano. They all >survive year to year (mint, chives, garlic chives, borage,fennel and >lovage die right back below ground in winter). Most of them seed or >spread themselves around, except parsley and coriander which I plant >new every year. > >Corner of herb garden > >http://jaybeesgarden.org.uk/extras/DSCF0568.JPG > > > Janet UK Lovely, Really nice. I wish I had some iris of that blood red color. I have to keep my bay in a pot to bring indoors in the winter. Your climate is apparently more temperate than mine. I have taken to growing my oregano in a very large pot up on the deck. I used to have it in the garden but those seedlings just spread and spread. I have a kitchen garden on my deck, mostly because I love trailing my hand through the herbs for the scent. I don't get much of the scent these days but occasionally I do. Do you think it worthwhile to have garlic chives in addition to onion chives? Do you use them or are you like me, you just want a scented garden Janet US |
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Janet wrote:
> > In the garden I grow half a dozen mints; rosemary,bay, lovage, fennel, >two sages, several thymes,marjoram, lemon balm, oregano. They all >survive year to year (mint, chives, garlic chives, borage,fennel and >lovage die right back below ground in winter). Most of them seed or >spread themselves around, except parsley and coriander which I plant >new every year. > >Corner of herb garden > >http://jaybeesgarden.org.uk/extras/DSCF0568.JPG > > Janet UK Lovely garden with a spectacular view. Those gladiolas are superb. They look like Espresso: http://www.edenbrothers.com/store/gl...lbs_magma.html I tried glads here but the deer eat the buds even before they open... same with iris. |
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In article >,
says... > > "Janet" wrote in message > .. . > > In article >, > says... > > > > On Sun, 28 May 2017 10:54:41 -0300, lucretia > > > wrote: > > > > snip > > > > > >I tried a couple of years ago storing mint every which way I could > > >think of but it loses it's bite no matter what. Even buying some > > >fresh mint from hydroponic greenhouses through the winter comes in > > >second to fresh. > > > > I came to the conclusion some years ago that to really exhibit the > > full range of aroma and taste, herbs need to be exposed to sun and > > breeze. Even those herbs grown indoors can't demonstrate the same > > characteristics. > > Janet US > > +1. > > In the garden I grow half a dozen mints; rosemary,bay, lovage, fennel, > two sages, several thymes,marjoram, lemon balm, oregano. They all > survive year to year (mint, chives, garlic chives, borage,fennel and > lovage die right back below ground in winter). Most of them seed or > spread themselves around, except parsley and coriander which I plant > new every year. > > Corner of herb garden > > http://jaybeesgarden.org.uk/extras/DSCF0568.JPG > > > Janet UK > > === > > But not YOUR herb garden Of course it is. Janet UK. |
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In article >,
says... > > On Tue, 30 May 2017 15:07:04 +0100, Janet > wrote: > > >In article >, > >says... > >> > >> On Sun, 28 May 2017 10:54:41 -0300, lucretia > >> > wrote: > >> > >> snip > >> > > >> >I tried a couple of years ago storing mint every which way I could > >> >think of but it loses it's bite no matter what. Even buying some > >> >fresh mint from hydroponic greenhouses through the winter comes in > >> >second to fresh. > >> > >> I came to the conclusion some years ago that to really exhibit the > >> full range of aroma and taste, herbs need to be exposed to sun and > >> breeze. Even those herbs grown indoors can't demonstrate the same > >> characteristics. > >> Janet US > > > > +1. > > > > In the garden I grow half a dozen mints; rosemary,bay, lovage, fennel, > >two sages, several thymes,marjoram, lemon balm, oregano. They all > >survive year to year (mint, chives, garlic chives, borage,fennel and > >lovage die right back below ground in winter). Most of them seed or > >spread themselves around, except parsley and coriander which I plant > >new every year. > > > >Corner of herb garden > > > >http://jaybeesgarden.org.uk/extras/DSCF0568.JPG > > > > > > Janet UK > > Lovely, Really nice. I wish I had some iris of that blood red color. They are gladioli "Blackjack". > I have to keep my bay in a pot to bring indoors in the winter. Your > climate is apparently more temperate than mine. Winteres here are very mild, because of the gulf stream (mild enough that the gladioli don't need to be lifted for winter). I have taken to > growing my oregano in a very large pot up on the deck. I used to have > it in the garden but those seedlings just spread and spread. They are a bit of a pain but suppress weeds and attract bees. I have a > kitchen garden on my deck, mostly because I love trailing my hand > through the herbs for the scent. I don't get much of the scent these > days but occasionally I do. Do you think it worthwhile to have garlic > chives in addition to onion chives? Do you use them or are you like > me, you just want a scented garden I was given the garlic chives at a plant swap, tbh I don't bother eating them because the leaves are a bit fleshier and I prefer the flavour and texture of the other sort. Like you I love the herb garden scent. Janet UK |
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Ophelia used his keyboard to write :
> "Janet" wrote in message .. . > > In article >, > says... >> >> > wrote: >> >> snip >> > >> >I tried a couple of years ago storing mint every which way I could >> >think of but it loses it's bite no matter what. Even buying some >> >fresh mint from hydroponic greenhouses through the winter comes in >> >second to fresh. >> >> I came to the conclusion some years ago that to really exhibit the >> full range of aroma and taste, herbs need to be exposed to sun and >> breeze. Even those herbs grown indoors can't demonstrate the same >> characteristics. >> Janet US > > +1. > > In the garden I grow half a dozen mints; rosemary,bay, lovage, fennel, > two sages, several thymes,marjoram, lemon balm, oregano. They all > survive year to year (mint, chives, garlic chives, borage,fennel and > lovage die right back below ground in winter). Most of them seed or > spread themselves around, except parsley and coriander which I plant > new every year. > > Corner of herb garden > > http://jaybeesgarden.org.uk/extras/DSCF0568.JPG > > > Janet UK > > === > > But not YOUR herb garden > Ophelia you ignorant ****, just who does it belong to then? |
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In article >, penmart01
@aol.com says... > > Janet wrote: > > > > In the garden I grow half a dozen mints; rosemary,bay, lovage, fennel, > >two sages, several thymes,marjoram, lemon balm, oregano. They all > >survive year to year (mint, chives, garlic chives, borage,fennel and > >lovage die right back below ground in winter). Most of them seed or > >spread themselves around, except parsley and coriander which I plant > >new every year. > > > >Corner of herb garden > > > >http://jaybeesgarden.org.uk/extras/DSCF0568.JPG > > > > Janet UK > > Lovely garden with a spectacular view. Those gladiolas are superb. > They look like Espresso: > http://www.edenbrothers.com/store/gl...lbs_magma.html Thanks, Close but not quite; mine are blackjack http://www.jparkers.co.uk/15-gladiol...kjack-1005385c > I tried glads here but the deer eat the buds even before they open... > same with iris. There are lots of deer on the island here but luckily nearly all of them are on the other side of a deer fence put up by the forestry people, so we never get them in the garden . They were a pain at my last place, ate all the tulips. They won't touch daffodils though Janet UK |
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On Tue, 30 May 2017 21:00:33 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>In article >, penmart01 says... >> >> Janet wrote: >> > >> > In the garden I grow half a dozen mints; rosemary,bay, lovage, fennel, >> >two sages, several thymes,marjoram, lemon balm, oregano. They all >> >survive year to year (mint, chives, garlic chives, borage,fennel and >> >lovage die right back below ground in winter). Most of them seed or >> >spread themselves around, except parsley and coriander which I plant >> >new every year. >> > >> >Corner of herb garden >> > >> >http://jaybeesgarden.org.uk/extras/DSCF0568.JPG >> > >> > Janet UK >> >> Lovely garden with a spectacular view. Those gladiolas are superb. >> They look like Espresso: >> http://www.edenbrothers.com/store/gl...lbs_magma.html > > Thanks, Close but not quite; mine are blackjack > > http://www.jparkers.co.uk/15-gladiol...kjack-1005385c > >> I tried glads here but the deer eat the buds even before they open... >> same with iris. > > There are lots of deer on the island here but luckily nearly all of >them are on the other side of a deer fence put up by the forestry >people, so we never get them in the garden . They were a pain at my last >place, ate all the tulips. They won't touch daffodils though > > Janet UK A lot of my plants are fenced but it would be difficult and not very esthetic fencing my creek. At the creek I plant a lot of daffs and others that critters don't eat like foxglove. I have one clump of red and yellow tulips near the house that are fenced. It's pouring rain here again, an extremely wet spring. It'll take a month of dry weather before I can catch up with my mowing. I have a hawthorne tree that's in full flower but it's too wet and gray to attempt a photo... perhaps tomorrow. I emailed Tinypic and they wrote back saying they know there's a problem and are working on it. |
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"Janet" wrote in message
.. . In article >, says... > > "Janet" wrote in message > .. . > > In article >, > says... > > > > On Sun, 28 May 2017 10:54:41 -0300, lucretia > > > wrote: > > > > snip > > > > > >I tried a couple of years ago storing mint every which way I could > > >think of but it loses it's bite no matter what. Even buying some > > >fresh mint from hydroponic greenhouses through the winter comes in > > >second to fresh. > > > > I came to the conclusion some years ago that to really exhibit the > > full range of aroma and taste, herbs need to be exposed to sun and > > breeze. Even those herbs grown indoors can't demonstrate the same > > characteristics. > > Janet US > > +1. > > In the garden I grow half a dozen mints; rosemary,bay, lovage, fennel, > two sages, several thymes,marjoram, lemon balm, oregano. They all > survive year to year (mint, chives, garlic chives, borage,fennel and > lovage die right back below ground in winter). Most of them seed or > spread themselves around, except parsley and coriander which I plant > new every year. > > Corner of herb garden > > http://jaybeesgarden.org.uk/extras/DSCF0568.JPG > > > Janet UK > > === > > But not YOUR herb garden Of course it is. Janet UK. == yeah right) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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"Bob Wolfe" wrote in message ...
Ophelia used his keyboard to write : > "Janet" wrote in message > .. . > > In article >, > says... >> >> > wrote: >> >> snip >> > >> >I tried a couple of years ago storing mint every which way I could >> >think of but it loses it's bite no matter what. Even buying some >> >fresh mint from hydroponic greenhouses through the winter comes in >> >second to fresh. >> >> I came to the conclusion some years ago that to really exhibit the >> full range of aroma and taste, herbs need to be exposed to sun and >> breeze. Even those herbs grown indoors can't demonstrate the same >> characteristics. >> Janet US > > +1. > > In the garden I grow half a dozen mints; rosemary,bay, lovage, fennel, > two sages, several thymes,marjoram, lemon balm, oregano. They all > survive year to year (mint, chives, garlic chives, borage,fennel and > lovage die right back below ground in winter). Most of them seed or > spread themselves around, except parsley and coriander which I plant > new every year. > > Corner of herb garden > > http://jaybeesgarden.org.uk/extras/DSCF0568.JPG > > > Janet UK > > === > > But not YOUR herb garden > Ophelia you ignorant ****, just who does it belong to then? == LOL I can see you are a good pal of hers. You are very similar) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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