Found another common food problem last weekend. ALL bullion cubes, etc.
have corn in them, at least those in the stores I checked. Corn seems to be
in very many things - baking powder for example - and I'm not supposed to
eat it. <sigh> I wonder if bullion cubes really matter; I suspect it's
mostly the salt in them we taste. What think you?

TIA


--
I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

In article >,
KenK > wrote:

> Found another common food problem last weekend. ALL bullion cubes, etc.
> have corn in them, at least those in the stores I checked. Corn seems to be
> in very many things - baking powder for example - and I'm not supposed to
> eat it. <sigh> I wonder if bullion cubes really matter; I suspect it's
> mostly the salt in them we taste. What think you?
>
> TIA

I use Herbox sodium free bouillon, it doesn't appear to have corn, and
salt is most definitely not the predominant taste.

On 2017-04-03, l not -l > wrote:

> Better than Bouillon, beef, has no corn products listed in the ingredient
> list.
> http://betterthanbouillon.com/

Likewise, Better Than Bullion Organic, which are available at many health
food stores.

nb

KenK wrote:
>
>Found another common food problem last weekend. ALL bullion cubes, etc.
>have corn in them, at least those in the stores I checked. Corn seems to be
>in very many things - baking powder for example - and I'm not supposed to
>eat it. <sigh> I wonder if bullion cubes really matter; I suspect it's
>mostly the salt in them we taste. What think you?

The house brand I get from BJs lists corn starch as the next to last
ingredient so it's probably not very much. However some brands (many
foods) list vegetable oil or hydrolized vegetable protein but don't
say which vegetable, could be corn. I mostly use Goya Brand powdered
chicken bouillon, lists hydrolized soy protein but no corn.

"KenK" > wrote in message
...
>
> Found another common food problem last weekend. ALL bullion cubes, etc.
> have corn in them, at least those in the stores I checked. Corn seems to
> be
> in very many things - baking powder for example - and I'm not supposed to
> eat it. <sigh> I wonder if bullion cubes really matter; I suspect it's
> mostly the salt in them we taste. What think you?
>
> TIA

You are right. Corn is in everything. Featherweight brand baking powder has
potato in it instead of corn. Not sure if you can have potato or not.

This has a recipe for making your own if you can't find that. You have to
scroll past some of her rants for the recipe.

https://wholenewmom.com/health-conce...baking-powder/

I just looked up the Better Than Bouillon as I know that the organic is
gluten free but it contains Maltrodextrin which is made of corn.

This is a really old thread so some of the information may be outdated but
it also might be helpful.

https://www.celiac.com/gluten-free/t...cornsoygluten/

I did look up the granulated Herb Ox and it does contain Maltrodextrin.

What you might have to do is use broth or stock. You would of course have to
check the ingredients before you buy as some does contain wheat or corn. You
could make your own but someone else will have to tell you how to do that. I
tried saving vegetable scraps for broth and the end result was inedible.
With broth you would probably just use it to replace whatever other liquid
such as water is going into your dish. And if you have too much of it, you
can always freeze it such as in ice cube trays.

Here is a list of corn and gluten free items that may be helpful to you.

http://healthy-family.org/gluten-and...safe-products/

"l not -l" > wrote in message
news
>
> On 3-Apr-2017, KenK > wrote:
>
>> Found another common food problem last weekend. ALL bullion cubes, etc.
>> have corn in them, at least those in the stores I checked. Corn seems to
>> be
>> in very many things - baking powder for example - and I'm not supposed to
>> eat it. <sigh> I wonder if bullion cubes really matter; I suspect it's
>> mostly the salt in them we taste. What think you?
> I haven't used an actual bouillon cube since the 70s; preferring stock
> where
> it works well. However, on occasion, stock is not the answer; in those
> cases I use a product called Better than Bouillon (reduced sodium
> variety).
> It is availabe in chicken and beef and is much better than a bouillon
> cube;
> that's not just my opinion, BtB was preferred in an America's Test Kitchen
> comparison.
>
> Better than Bouillon, beef, has no corn products listed in the ingredient
> list.
> http://betterthanbouillon.com/

Yes it does. Maltodextrin, made from corn. One type actually says in the
ingredients that it is from corn. Corn in and of itself doesn't have to be
disclosed at the bottom because it isn't considered a top 8 allergen.

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2017-04-03, l not -l > wrote:
>
>> Better than Bouillon, beef, has no corn products listed in the ingredient
>> list.
>> http://betterthanbouillon.com/
>
> Likewise, Better Than Bullion Organic, which are available at many health
> food stores.

But sadly, not corn free.

"Mark Storkamp" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> KenK > wrote:
>
>> Found another common food problem last weekend. ALL bullion cubes, etc.
>> have corn in them, at least those in the stores I checked. Corn seems to
>> be
>> in very many things - baking powder for example - and I'm not supposed to
>> eat it. <sigh> I wonder if bullion cubes really matter; I suspect it's
>> mostly the salt in them we taste. What think you?
>>
>> TIA
>
> I use Herbox sodium free bouillon, it doesn't appear to have corn, and
> salt is most definitely not the predominant taste.

Maltodextrin which is made of corn.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On 3 Apr 2017 13:38:26 GMT, KenK wrote:
>
>> Found another common food problem last weekend. ALL bullion cubes, etc.
>> have corn in them, at least those in the stores I checked. Corn seems to
>> be
>> in very many things - baking powder for example - and I'm not supposed to
>> eat it. <sigh> I wonder if bullion cubes really matter; I suspect it's
>> mostly the salt in them we taste. What think you?
>
> What Think I?
>
> I think a tiny bit of corn isn't going to affect you one bit. Perhaps
> you need to find a special diet group on Facebook or Reddit. After
> Julie, these "I can't eat...." posts get tiresome REALLY quick.
>

Well... I am butting in here because I can help him. As of this moment in
time, my last testing came back with no food intolerances. I still avoid
eggs like the plague because I know what distress they cause me. And I still
have to avoid or at least limit other foods for other reasons but at least
for now, I can eat a piece of cheese with no problems. Or carrots, or
popcorn, or...or...or...

Of course, Ken's reasons for avoiding certain foods are different than mine.
In my case, avoiding problem foods for years did allow me to once again eat
them. And of course that could change again at any time. Because that's how
food intolerances work.

I also know from experience that there really isn't a group anywhere for
people like use. I was good with the owner of the celiac board for years but
after he got married, he appointed new mods who didn't want me there because
I don't specifically have celiac. Same thing for the food allergy groups. I
don't have IgE allergies so shouldn't be there. Now I am in a group for IBS
and food intolerances. Some there drive me nuts because they keep insisting
that I must just have IBS and don't know it. No. Sorry. I feel for ya but I
do not have those symptoms.

My entire family all have issues to where they must avoid certain foods.
Save for *knock wood* one person who did have food intolerances but seems
not to know. Gallbladder, pancreatitis, gout, GERD, arthritis, the taking of
certain medications, just to name a few. I won't bore you with all of our
medical history. But I have seen and felt firsthand what happens if a person
needs to avoid something and what can happen if they eat it either by choice
or by accident. Such as the time we were told that the gluten free brownie
from a bakery contained no eggs when it really did have eggs.

I am happy for those of you who have no issues with food. You are free to
eat what you want. But there are a lot of people in the world who don't have
that luxury. And it is very annoying to me to see other people complain
about them or act like their problems aren't real.

<rant over>

> wrote in message
...
> KenK wrote:
>>
>>Found another common food problem last weekend. ALL bullion cubes, etc.
>>have corn in them, at least those in the stores I checked. Corn seems to
>>be
>>in very many things - baking powder for example - and I'm not supposed to
>>eat it. <sigh> I wonder if bullion cubes really matter; I suspect it's
>>mostly the salt in them we taste. What think you?
>
> The house brand I get from BJs lists corn starch as the next to last
> ingredient so it's probably not very much. However some brands (many
> foods) list vegetable oil or hydrolized vegetable protein but don't
> say which vegetable, could be corn. I mostly use Goya Brand powdered
> chicken bouillon, lists hydrolized soy protein but no corn.

Ingredients:

Salt, Monosodium Glutamate, Sugar, Soy Protein Hydrolyzed,Maltodextrin,
Vegetables Dehydrated ( Onions Dehydrated,Garlic Dehydrated, Celery
Dehydrated, Parsley Dehydrated ),Yeast Extract, Extract, Chicken Fat,
Turmeric, Chicken Meat,Caramel Color, Flavors Natural, Disodium Inosinate,
Disodium Guanylate, Silica ( Anti Caking Agents )

Maltrodextrian is almost always derived from corn. If not corn, then wheat.
Also, Goya is made on shared lines so none of it can be considered gluten
free.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
news
> On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 19:53:09 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "l not -l" > wrote in message
>> news
>>>
>>> On 3-Apr-2017, KenK > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Found another common food problem last weekend. ALL bullion cubes, etc.
>>>> have corn in them, at least those in the stores I checked. Corn seems
>>>> to
>>>> be
>>>> in very many things - baking powder for example - and I'm not supposed
>>>> to
>>>> eat it. <sigh> I wonder if bullion cubes really matter; I suspect it's
>>>> mostly the salt in them we taste. What think you?
>>> I haven't used an actual bouillon cube since the 70s; preferring stock
>>> where
>>> it works well. However, on occasion, stock is not the answer; in those
>>> cases I use a product called Better than Bouillon (reduced sodium
>>> variety).
>>> It is availabe in chicken and beef and is much better than a bouillon
>>> cube;
>>> that's not just my opinion, BtB was preferred in an America's Test
>>> Kitchen
>>> comparison.
>>>
>>> Better than Bouillon, beef, has no corn products listed in the
>>> ingredient
>>> list.
>>> http://betterthanbouillon.com/
>>
>> Yes it does. Maltodextrin, made from corn. One type actually says in the
>> ingredients that it is from corn. Corn in and of itself doesn't have to
>> be
>> disclosed at the bottom because it isn't considered a top 8 allergen.
>
> And Ken isn't allergic to corn. The small amount of corn in here will
> do him NO HARM. When his doctor says stay away from corn for his
> condition, he means don't be eating corn on the cob or bowls of
> frozen/canned corn.

Why would you say this? He is avoiding it for his arthritis, no? My mom has
to avoid things for her arthitis. All it takes is a speck of the offender
for her fingers to start swelling and the pain to begin. Such as the time
she came over here to eat. I made a salad and put the bell pepper rings and
tomatoes on the top of the salad bowl. That was enough to cause her
problems. Those peppers and tomatoes touched the greens. Now I know why when
they go to Olive Garden, they ask for all of the salad things except for the
greens to be served in separate dishes. It's not a matter of picking
something off because you just don't like it. It's a matter of suffering or
not suffering.
>
> Way too much paranoia here.

Not at all. Just hate to see people suffer.

"Julie Bove" wrote in message news

"Mark Storkamp" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> KenK > wrote:
>
>> Found another common food problem last weekend. ALL bullion cubes, etc.
>> have corn in them, at least those in the stores I checked. Corn seems to
>> be
>> in very many things - baking powder for example - and I'm not supposed to
>> eat it. <sigh> I wonder if bullion cubes really matter; I suspect it's
>> mostly the salt in them we taste. What think you?
>>
>> TIA
>
> I use Herbox sodium free bouillon, it doesn't appear to have corn, and
> salt is most definitely not the predominant taste.

Maltodextrin which is made of corn.

==

Hi Julie. Nice to see you posting You are brave knowing you would get
jumped on I see it has started already


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http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news >
>
> "Mark Storkamp" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >,
>> KenK > wrote:
>>
>>> Found another common food problem last weekend. ALL bullion cubes, etc.
>>> have corn in them, at least those in the stores I checked. Corn seems to
>>> be
>>> in very many things - baking powder for example - and I'm not supposed
>>> to
>>> eat it. <sigh> I wonder if bullion cubes really matter; I suspect it's
>>> mostly the salt in them we taste. What think you?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>
>> I use Herbox sodium free bouillon, it doesn't appear to have corn, and
>> salt is most definitely not the predominant taste.
>
> Maltodextrin which is made of corn.
>
> ==
>
> Hi Julie. Nice to see you posting You are brave knowing you would get
> jumped on I see it has started already

Yep, but Ken's a good guy and unfortunately I have had to research some of
this stuff myself so I think I can help. Not sure too many others here can
in this situation.

"Julie Bove" wrote in message news

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news >
>
> "Mark Storkamp" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >,
>> KenK > wrote:
>>
>>> Found another common food problem last weekend. ALL bullion cubes, etc.
>>> have corn in them, at least those in the stores I checked. Corn seems to
>>> be
>>> in very many things - baking powder for example - and I'm not supposed
>>> to
>>> eat it. <sigh> I wonder if bullion cubes really matter; I suspect it's
>>> mostly the salt in them we taste. What think you?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>
>> I use Herbox sodium free bouillon, it doesn't appear to have corn, and
>> salt is most definitely not the predominant taste.
>
> Maltodextrin which is made of corn.
>
> ==
>
> Hi Julie. Nice to see you posting You are brave knowing you would get
> jumped on I see it has started already

Yep, but Ken's a good guy and unfortunately I have had to research some of
this stuff myself so I think I can help. Not sure too many others here can
in this situation.

===

Yes he is and I am sure he appreciates all your help. He is having a
difficult time

--
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On 3 Apr 2017 13:38:26 GMT, KenK > wrote:

> Corn seems to be
> in very many things - baking powder for example - and I'm not supposed to
> eat it. <sigh>

Make your own baking powder if you really, really, really want to
bake.

2 parts cream of tartar
1 part baking soda


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Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

"KenK" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
> news >
>> You are right. Corn is in everything. Featherweight brand baking
>> powder has potato in it instead of corn. Not sure if you can have
>> potato or not.
>
> Yes, potatoes ok. Fortunately.
>
>> This has a recipe for making your own if you can't find that. You have
>> to scroll past some of her rants for the recipe.
>>
>> https://wholenewmom.com/health-conce...baking-powder/
>
> I found one with just baking soda and cream of tarter. Now I can make my
> own.
>
>> I just looked up the Better Than Bouillon as I know that the organic
>> is gluten free but it contains Maltrodextrin which is made of corn.
>>
>> This is a really old thread so some of the information may be outdated
>> but it also might be helpful.
>>
>> https://www.celiac.com/gluten-free/t...ullion-powder-
>> or-paste-free-of-cornsoygluten/
>
> Found a substitute for boullion. Uses nutritional yeast, Italian
> seasoning,
> and seveal other ingredients. Found some nutritional yeast at Walmart
> Grocery this morning so will make a batch soon.
>
> Thanks for all your help Julie!

You're welcome!

I don't use cubes since I found "Better Than Bouillion." It comes
In meat flavors plus vegetable. I don't know if it has corn or not, and
am presently too lazy to get up and look.

N.

"Nancy2" > wrote in message
...
>I don't use cubes since I found "Better Than Bouillion." It comes
> In meat flavors plus vegetable. I don't know if it has corn or not, and
> am presently too lazy to get up and look.
>
> N.

It has maltrodexin which is made of corn.

Well, Julie, I have no aversion to products with corn in them.

N.

On 2017-04-09 12:20 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> I first bought Better than Bouillon Beef Base about 6-7 years ago. I
> was making a pot of beef mushroom barley soup and wanted to intesify
> the flavor. I coudn't believe how good it was. I have since added the
> Chicken Base, Ham Base, and Mushroom Base. Because they have a long
> shelf life when refrigerated, they really come in handy when you need
> some flavor and either don't want to make stock or go out to buy more
> stock than you can use. I'm guessing that the other flavors are just
> as good, but some them are not stocked at my store. If anyone has
> tried the Vegetable Base, I'd be interested in knowing.
>
A few years ago I discovered, in a UK s/m, a brand of organic bouillon
cubes that didn't include MSG. On my visits, I usually "stock" up and
store them in the freezer so that the BB dates don't apply.
Graham

On Sat, 08 Apr 2017 23:07:24 -0700, The Newest Other Guy
> wrote:

>On Sat, 8 Apr 2017 21:33:56 -0700, "Julie Bove" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"Nancy2" > wrote in message
...
>>>I don't use cubes since I found "Better Than Bouillion." It comes
>>> In meat flavors plus vegetable. I don't know if it has corn or not, and
>>> am presently too lazy to get up and look.
>>>
>>> N.
>>
>>It has maltrodexin which is made of corn.
>
>Better than Bouillon Concentrated Stocks are made from meat (or
>vegetables). This gives them a richer, more robust flavor than ordinary
>bouillons or soup bases. Our Chicken tastes like Chicken because it IS
>Chicken; our beef tastes like beef because it IS beef. No Fat, Lower
>Sodium: Better Than Bouillon Concentrated Stocks are fat free and have 1/3
>less salt than ordinary bouillons.
>
>
It has a bad mouth feel
Janet US

On Sun, 09 Apr 2017 08:17:59 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Apr 2017 23:07:24 -0700, The Newest Other Guy
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 8 Apr 2017 21:33:56 -0700, "Julie Bove" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Nancy2" > wrote in message
...
>>>>I don't use cubes since I found "Better Than Bouillion." It comes
>>>> In meat flavors plus vegetable. I don't know if it has corn or not, and
>>>> am presently too lazy to get up and look.
>>>>
>>>> N.
>>>
>>>It has maltrodexin which is made of corn.
>>
>>Better than Bouillon Concentrated Stocks are made from meat (or
>>vegetables). This gives them a richer, more robust flavor than ordinary
>>bouillons or soup bases. Our Chicken tastes like Chicken because it IS
>>Chicken; our beef tastes like beef because it IS beef. No Fat, Lower
>>Sodium: Better Than Bouillon Concentrated Stocks are fat free and have 1/3
>>less salt than ordinary bouillons.
>>
>It has a bad mouth feel
>Janet US

I use very little bouillon but sometimes a dish requires a small
amount and that's why I like the Goya brand, it's a powder in a foil
pouch, it's free flowing and the foil can be rolled down to tightly
seal the remainder. I found Goya bouillon to have the most natural
flavor of all I've tried... I found Better than Bouillon tastes too
artificial and leaves a chemical/metallic after taste.

On Sun, 09 Apr 2017 10:33:42 -0400, wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Apr 2017 08:17:59 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 08 Apr 2017 23:07:24 -0700, The Newest Other Guy
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 8 Apr 2017 21:33:56 -0700, "Julie Bove" >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Nancy2" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>I don't use cubes since I found "Better Than Bouillion." It comes
>>>>> In meat flavors plus vegetable. I don't know if it has corn or not, and
>>>>> am presently too lazy to get up and look.
>>>>>
>>>>> N.
>>>>
>>>>It has maltrodexin which is made of corn.
>>>
>>>Better than Bouillon Concentrated Stocks are made from meat (or
>>>vegetables). This gives them a richer, more robust flavor than ordinary
>>>bouillons or soup bases. Our Chicken tastes like Chicken because it IS
>>>Chicken; our beef tastes like beef because it IS beef. No Fat, Lower
>>>Sodium: Better Than Bouillon Concentrated Stocks are fat free and have 1/3
>>>less salt than ordinary bouillons.
>>>
>>It has a bad mouth feel
>>Janet US
>
>I use very little bouillon but sometimes a dish requires a small
>amount and that's why I like the Goya brand, it's a powder in a foil
>pouch, it's free flowing and the foil can be rolled down to tightly
>seal the remainder. I found Goya bouillon to have the most natural
>flavor of all I've tried... I found Better than Bouillon tastes too
>artificial and leaves a chemical/metallic after taste.

I also don't like the glass jar or the size of the lid (at least sold
by Costco) The lid is just that little bit too large for my hand to
grasp comfortably to twist open.
Janet US

On 2017-04-09, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

> If anyone has tried the Vegetable Base, I'd be interested in
> knowing.

I have.

I've used BtB Organic Vegetable Base fer my recipe for minestrone, for
which I usually use their (BtB Organic) beef base. The resulting soup
turned out quite tasty and I'd recommend it to any BtB user.

OTOH, my organic BtB also sez "maltodextrin*". BUT!, the asterisk
tacked onto ALL ingredients supposedly stands for an organic form (EPA
approv'd, allegedly zero GMO ingredients in food chain) of
maltodextrin. Do I believe EVERYTHING on a product's label? Momma
notbob never raised such a foolish child.

nb

On 2017-04-09 9:36 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Apr 2017 10:33:42 -0400, wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 09 Apr 2017 08:17:59 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 08 Apr 2017 23:07:24 -0700, The Newest Other Guy
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 8 Apr 2017 21:33:56 -0700, "Julie Bove" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> I don't use cubes since I found "Better Than Bouillion." It comes
>>>>>> In meat flavors plus vegetable. I don't know if it has corn or not, and
>>>>>> am presently too lazy to get up and look.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> N.
>>>>>
>>>>> It has maltrodexin which is made of corn.
>>>>
>>>> Better than Bouillon Concentrated Stocks are made from meat (or
>>>> vegetables). This gives them a richer, more robust flavor than ordinary
>>>> bouillons or soup bases. Our Chicken tastes like Chicken because it IS
>>>> Chicken; our beef tastes like beef because it IS beef. No Fat, Lower
>>>> Sodium: Better Than Bouillon Concentrated Stocks are fat free and have 1/3
>>>> less salt than ordinary bouillons.
>>>>
>>> It has a bad mouth feel
>>> Janet US
>>
>> I use very little bouillon but sometimes a dish requires a small
>> amount and that's why I like the Goya brand, it's a powder in a foil
>> pouch, it's free flowing and the foil can be rolled down to tightly
>> seal the remainder. I found Goya bouillon to have the most natural
>> flavor of all I've tried... I found Better than Bouillon tastes too
>> artificial and leaves a chemical/metallic after taste.
>
> I also don't like the glass jar or the size of the lid (at least sold
> by Costco) The lid is just that little bit too large for my hand to
> grasp comfortably to twist open.
> Janet US
>
I'm making pepper mills with smaller tops that are more suitable for
women's hands.
Graham

On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 10:24:54 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2017-04-09 9:36 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 09 Apr 2017 10:33:42 -0400, wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 09 Apr 2017 08:17:59 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 08 Apr 2017 23:07:24 -0700, The Newest Other Guy
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 8 Apr 2017 21:33:56 -0700, "Julie Bove" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> I don't use cubes since I found "Better Than Bouillion." It comes
>>>>>>> In meat flavors plus vegetable. I don't know if it has corn or not, and
>>>>>>> am presently too lazy to get up and look.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> N.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It has maltrodexin which is made of corn.
>>>>>
>>>>> Better than Bouillon Concentrated Stocks are made from meat (or
>>>>> vegetables). This gives them a richer, more robust flavor than ordinary
>>>>> bouillons or soup bases. Our Chicken tastes like Chicken because it IS
>>>>> Chicken; our beef tastes like beef because it IS beef. No Fat, Lower
>>>>> Sodium: Better Than Bouillon Concentrated Stocks are fat free and have 1/3
>>>>> less salt than ordinary bouillons.
>>>>>
>>>> It has a bad mouth feel
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>> I use very little bouillon but sometimes a dish requires a small
>>> amount and that's why I like the Goya brand, it's a powder in a foil
>>> pouch, it's free flowing and the foil can be rolled down to tightly
>>> seal the remainder. I found Goya bouillon to have the most natural
>>> flavor of all I've tried... I found Better than Bouillon tastes too
>>> artificial and leaves a chemical/metallic after taste.
>>
>> I also don't like the glass jar or the size of the lid (at least sold
>> by Costco) The lid is just that little bit too large for my hand to
>> grasp comfortably to twist open.
>> Janet US
>>
>I'm making pepper mills with smaller tops that are more suitable for
>women's hands.
>Graham

sigh, as I get older, my hands don't have the grip they used to have.
But thank you for thinking of persons with smaller hands. "They"
either have to make a law that all lids 'will' fit into the lid
opening devices or that all lid opening devices will fit all lids out
there. I have a couple of openers provided by my husband and I still
have to go to him to have him open stuff because the lids are too
wide. Arrgh. And what's with those plastic couplers that hold two
bottles of something together? I'm not a gorilla. If you're gonna
sell it to me, at least give me a chance to be able to get it apart or
open so that I can use it.
Rant completed
Janet US

On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 18:59:41 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:

>
>On 9-Apr-2017, U.S. Janet B. > wrote:
>
>> sigh, as I get older, my hands don't have the grip they used to have.
>> But thank you for thinking of persons with smaller hands. "They"
>> either have to make a law that all lids 'will' fit into the lid
>> opening devices or that all lid opening devices will fit all lids out
>> there. I have a couple of openers provided by my husband and I still
>> have to go to him to have him open stuff because the lids are too
>> wide. Arrgh. And what's with those plastic couplers that hold two
>> bottles of something together? I'm not a gorilla. If you're gonna
>> sell it to me, at least give me a chance to be able to get it apart or
>> open so that I can use it.
>> Rant completed
>I have found the Swing-a-way opener works very well on a wide variety of
>sizes.
>http://amcohouseworks.com/swing-a-wa...ner-black.html

That looks perfect. Before I order from Amazon, Do you need a large
hand grip between the two lever handles? Guestimate inches for me?
Thanks
Janet US

On 4/9/2017 2:59 PM, l not -l wrote:
> On 9-Apr-2017, U.S. Janet B. > wrote:
>
>> sigh, as I get older, my hands don't have the grip they used to have.
>> But thank you for thinking of persons with smaller hands. "They"
>> either have to make a law that all lids 'will' fit into the lid
>> opening devices or that all lid opening devices will fit all lids out
>> there. I have a couple of openers provided by my husband and I still
>> have to go to him to have him open stuff because the lids are too
>> wide. Arrgh. And what's with those plastic couplers that hold two
>> bottles of something together? I'm not a gorilla. If you're gonna
>> sell it to me, at least give me a chance to be able to get it apart or
>> open so that I can use it.
>> Rant completed
> I have found the Swing-a-way opener works very well on a wide variety of
> sizes.
> http://amcohouseworks.com/swing-a-wa...ner-black.html
>
I have a couple of those - they work very well.

On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 21:19:19 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:

>
>On 9-Apr-2017, U.S. Janet B. > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 18:59:41 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >On 9-Apr-2017, U.S. Janet B. > wrote:
>> >
>> >> sigh, as I get older, my hands don't have the grip they used to have.
>> >> But thank you for thinking of persons with smaller hands. "They"
>> >> either have to make a law that all lids 'will' fit into the lid
>> >> opening devices or that all lid opening devices will fit all lids out
>> >> there. I have a couple of openers provided by my husband and I still
>> >> have to go to him to have him open stuff because the lids are too
>> >> wide. Arrgh. And what's with those plastic couplers that hold two
>> >> bottles of something together? I'm not a gorilla. If you're gonna
>> >> sell it to me, at least give me a chance to be able to get it apart or
>> >> open so that I can use it.
>> >> Rant completed
>> >I have found the Swing-a-way opener works very well on a wide variety of
>> >sizes.
>> >http://amcohouseworks.com/swing-a-wa...ner-black.html
>>
>> That looks perfect. Before I order from Amazon, Do you need a large
>> hand grip between the two lever handles? Guestimate inches for me?
>> Thanks
>> Janet US
>with the top grip nestled against "drumstick" part of my thumb, it is about
>2 inches to the tip of my finger on the "trigger" grip. That's where I grab
>it, it's a little more at the extreme end, a little less closer to the
>fulcrum.

Perfect! thank you so very much. )
Janet US

On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 18:20:11 -0400, S Viemeister
> wrote:

>On 4/9/2017 2:59 PM, l not -l wrote:
>> On 9-Apr-2017, U.S. Janet B. > wrote:
>>
>>> sigh, as I get older, my hands don't have the grip they used to have.
>>> But thank you for thinking of persons with smaller hands. "They"
>>> either have to make a law that all lids 'will' fit into the lid
>>> opening devices or that all lid opening devices will fit all lids out
>>> there. I have a couple of openers provided by my husband and I still
>>> have to go to him to have him open stuff because the lids are too
>>> wide. Arrgh. And what's with those plastic couplers that hold two
>>> bottles of something together? I'm not a gorilla. If you're gonna
>>> sell it to me, at least give me a chance to be able to get it apart or
>>> open so that I can use it.
>>> Rant completed
>> I have found the Swing-a-way opener works very well on a wide variety of
>> sizes.
>> http://amcohouseworks.com/swing-a-wa...ner-black.html
>>
>I have a couple of those - they work very well.

glad to have another view. thanks
Janet US

On Sun, 09 Apr 2017 10:58:01 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 10:24:54 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>>On 2017-04-09 9:36 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Sun, 09 Apr 2017 10:33:42 -0400, wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 09 Apr 2017 08:17:59 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 08 Apr 2017 23:07:24 -0700, The Newest Other Guy
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Apr 2017 21:33:56 -0700, "Julie Bove" >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> I don't use cubes since I found "Better Than Bouillion." It comes
>>>>>>>> In meat flavors plus vegetable. I don't know if it has corn or not, and
>>>>>>>> am presently too lazy to get up and look.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> N.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It has maltrodexin which is made of corn.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Better than Bouillon Concentrated Stocks are made from meat (or
>>>>>> vegetables). This gives them a richer, more robust flavor than ordinary
>>>>>> bouillons or soup bases. Our Chicken tastes like Chicken because it IS
>>>>>> Chicken; our beef tastes like beef because it IS beef. No Fat, Lower
>>>>>> Sodium: Better Than Bouillon Concentrated Stocks are fat free and have 1/3
>>>>>> less salt than ordinary bouillons.
>>>>>>
>>>>> It has a bad mouth feel
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>> I use very little bouillon but sometimes a dish requires a small
>>>> amount and that's why I like the Goya brand, it's a powder in a foil
>>>> pouch, it's free flowing and the foil can be rolled down to tightly
>>>> seal the remainder. I found Goya bouillon to have the most natural
>>>> flavor of all I've tried... I found Better than Bouillon tastes too
>>>> artificial and leaves a chemical/metallic after taste.
>>>
>>> I also don't like the glass jar or the size of the lid (at least sold
>>> by Costco) The lid is just that little bit too large for my hand to
>>> grasp comfortably to twist open.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>>I'm making pepper mills with smaller tops that are more suitable for
>>women's hands.
>>Graham
>
>sigh, as I get older, my hands don't have the grip they used to have.
>But thank you for thinking of persons with smaller hands. "They"
>either have to make a law that all lids 'will' fit into the lid
>opening devices or that all lid opening devices will fit all lids out
>there. I have a couple of openers provided by my husband and I still
>have to go to him to have him open stuff because the lids are too
>wide. Arrgh. And what's with those plastic couplers that hold two
>bottles of something together? I'm not a gorilla. If you're gonna
>sell it to me, at least give me a chance to be able to get it apart or
>open so that I can use it.
>Rant completed
>Janet US
Goya pouches are easy to open, just tear the foil packet and fold it
down over what you don't use.

"The Newest Other Guy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 8 Apr 2017 21:33:56 -0700, "Julie Bove" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Nancy2" > wrote in message
...
>>>I don't use cubes since I found "Better Than Bouillion." It comes
>>> In meat flavors plus vegetable. I don't know if it has corn or not, and
>>> am presently too lazy to get up and look.
>>>
>>> N.
>>
>>It has maltrodexin which is made of corn.
>
> Better than Bouillon Concentrated Stocks are made from meat (or
> vegetables). This gives them a richer, more robust flavor than ordinary
> bouillons or soup bases. Our Chicken tastes like Chicken because it IS
> Chicken; our beef tastes like beef because it IS beef. No Fat, Lower
> Sodium: Better Than Bouillon Concentrated Stocks are fat free and have 1/3
> less salt than ordinary bouillons.

But it still has corn in it.

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
9.44...
> On Sat 08 Apr 2017 09:33:56p, Julie Bove told us...
>
>>
>> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>I don't use cubes since I found "Better Than Bouillion." It comes
>>> In meat flavors plus vegetable. I don't know if it has corn or
>>> not, and am presently too lazy to get up and look.
>>>
>>> N.
>>
>> It has maltrodexin which is made of corn.
>>
>>
>
> I first bought Better than Bouillon Beef Base about 6-7 years ago. I
> was making a pot of beef mushroom barley soup and wanted to intesify
> the flavor. I coudn't believe how good it was. I have since added the
> Chicken Base, Ham Base, and Mushroom Base. Because they have a long
> shelf life when refrigerated, they really come in handy when you need
> some flavor and either don't want to make stock or go out to buy more
> stock than you can use. I'm guessing that the other flavors are just
> as good, but some them are not stocked at my store. If anyone has
> tried the Vegetable Base, I'd be interested in knowing.

I tried some but can't remember which ones. Ingredients vary between the
regular, organic and I think the low salt. They were good but I disliked
having them take up refrigerator space and I wound up not being able to find
the ones I needed locally. I had to mail order them and at that point in
time, it wasn't cheap to do so.

On 4/9/2017 2:59 PM, l not -l wrote:
> On 9-Apr-2017, U.S. Janet B. > wrote:
>
>> sigh, as I get older, my hands don't have the grip they used to have.
>> But thank you for thinking of persons with smaller hands. "They"
>> either have to make a law that all lids 'will' fit into the lid
>> opening devices or that all lid opening devices will fit all lids out
>> there. I have a couple of openers provided by my husband and I still
>> have to go to him to have him open stuff because the lids are too
>> wide. Arrgh. And what's with those plastic couplers that hold two
>> bottles of something together? I'm not a gorilla. If you're gonna
>> sell it to me, at least give me a chance to be able to get it apart or
>> open so that I can use it.
>> Rant completed
> I have found the Swing-a-way opener works very well on a wide variety of
> sizes.
> http://amcohouseworks.com/swing-a-wa...ner-black.html
>
That looks like a nice jar opener gadget.

Jill

"Nancy2" > wrote in message
...
> Well, Julie, I have no aversion to products with corn in them.
>
> N.
I guess you didn't read Ken's post. He asked for something with no corn.

On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 4:19:28 AM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 4/9/2017 2:59 PM, l not -l wrote:
> > On 9-Apr-2017, U.S. Janet B. > wrote:
> >
> >> sigh, as I get older, my hands don't have the grip they used to have.
> >> But thank you for thinking of persons with smaller hands. "They"
> >> either have to make a law that all lids 'will' fit into the lid
> >> opening devices or that all lid opening devices will fit all lids out
> >> there. I have a couple of openers provided by my husband and I still
> >> have to go to him to have him open stuff because the lids are too
> >> wide. Arrgh. And what's with those plastic couplers that hold two
> >> bottles of something together? I'm not a gorilla. If you're gonna
> >> sell it to me, at least give me a chance to be able to get it apart or
> >> open so that I can use it.
> >> Rant completed
> > I have found the Swing-a-way opener works very well on a wide variety of
> > sizes.
> > http://amcohouseworks.com/swing-a-wa...ner-black.html
> >
> That looks like a nice jar opener gadget.

We've got one because my husband has trouble with rotating motions. It
works very well.

Cindy Hamilton

On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 5:47:15 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> We've got one because my husband has trouble with rotating motions. It
> works very well.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
>
Here's the one I have; picked it up at Bed, Bath,
and Befuddled.

https://www.amazon.com/OXO-Good-Grip...rds=jar+opener

jmcquown wrote:
>l not -l wrote:
>>U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>>> sigh, as I get older, my hands don't have the grip they used to have.
>>> But thank you for thinking of persons with smaller hands. "They"
>>> either have to make a law that all lids 'will' fit into the lid
>>> opening devices or that all lid opening devices will fit all lids out
>>> there. I have a couple of openers provided by my husband and I still
>>> have to go to him to have him open stuff because the lids are too
>>> wide. Arrgh. And what's with those plastic couplers that hold two
>>> bottles of something together? I'm not a gorilla. If you're gonna
>>> sell it to me, at least give me a chance to be able to get it apart or
>>> open so that I can use it.
>>> Rant completed
>> I have found the Swing-a-way opener works very well on a wide variety of
>> sizes.
>> http://amcohouseworks.com/swing-a-wa...ner-black.html
>>
>That looks like a nice jar opener gadget.
>
>Jill

It looks to me if tightened a smidge too much it will crack the glass
jar because it doesn't apply pressure uniformally over the entire
circumference. My hands rarely meet a jar lid they can't open but
with the occasional stubborn lids I use a rubber strap wrench. they
apply pressure very uniformly and won't mar the lid. They are very
handy to have in the tool box for many loosening/tightening jobs.
https://www.amazon.com/Craftsman-Rub...ench%2C+rubber

On 4/10/2017 11:44 AM, wrote:
> On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 5:47:15 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> We've got one because my husband has trouble with rotating motions. It
>> works very well.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>>
> Here's the one I have; picked it up at Bed, Bath,
> and Befuddled.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/OXO-Good-Grip...rds=jar+opener
>
I'm pretty sure I have one of those in my junk drawer. Not to say it's
junk... it's just the place where I keep not always needed but sometimes
handy gadgets.

When I got here in 2008 my mother couldn't get the plastic caps off some
bottles of Ginger ale. I tried, those tops were tough! Then I had an
"Ah ha!" moment. I figured she'd probably kept this gadget. I rummaged
through the "junk drawer". Yeppers!

https://s23.postimg.org/7988rev2j/jar_opener.jpg

Sure enough, and it worked. Patent still pending circa before I was born...

Jill

On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:02:07 -0400, wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>>l not -l wrote:
>>>U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>
>>>> sigh, as I get older, my hands don't have the grip they used to have.
>>>> But thank you for thinking of persons with smaller hands. "They"
>>>> either have to make a law that all lids 'will' fit into the lid
>>>> opening devices or that all lid opening devices will fit all lids out
>>>> there. I have a couple of openers provided by my husband and I still
>>>> have to go to him to have him open stuff because the lids are too
>>>> wide. Arrgh. And what's with those plastic couplers that hold two
>>>> bottles of something together? I'm not a gorilla. If you're gonna
>>>> sell it to me, at least give me a chance to be able to get it apart or
>>>> open so that I can use it.
>>>> Rant completed
>>> I have found the Swing-a-way opener works very well on a wide variety of
>>> sizes.
>>> http://amcohouseworks.com/swing-a-wa...ner-black.html
>>>
>>That looks like a nice jar opener gadget.
>>
>>Jill
>
>It looks to me if tightened a smidge too much it will crack the glass
>jar because it doesn't apply pressure uniformally over the entire
>circumference. My hands rarely meet a jar lid they can't open but
>with the occasional stubborn lids I use a rubber strap wrench. they
>apply pressure very uniformly and won't mar the lid. They are very
>handy to have in the tool box for many loosening/tightening jobs.
>https://www.amazon.com/Craftsman-Rub...ench%2C+rubber

years ago, I gave those to a friend who had problems with her hands.
It didn't work well for her. I don't remember exactly why. I think
it was the forward motion required by the forearm and upper body. (a
pushing motion maybe?)
I'll try the jar opener recommended above first. Thanks for the
thought, though.
Janet US